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ezugegere:wrong! the correct Ebira word is Adaguneva ; Ejima is nothing but a post colonial word of convenience. There is no room for "Eji" in Ebira to imply a multiple. Other Ebira groups in Nassarawa and FCT do not use Ejima |
Raxz: @matlab and who told u the north is divided against it self because of some southerners effort? get it, there has never bn a time in the history of Nigeria as a country tht the north is one indivisible region, all u heard is political propaganda by some selfish politicians form the core north just for there political gain bt we in the MB hs come to realise the game plans so we are setting our political turn with a uniqick identity so get it bro there ws never a collective north, never shall.Bros Raxz... I hope you realise that you are writing out the broadcast version Solomon Lar or J.S Tarka of looser speeches, name the exact people deceiving you from the North. That's my trouble with you fantasy people....you dream an MB you know nothing of. Pick a state and I bet i'd out-name you over the ethnicties within....including yours! |
Yeah, funny u know nothing about everything....airhead ![]() slap1: Toto Local Government Area. Funny name. |
Well thank you Joavid, Ebira is a nupoid language and shares more with Nupe peoples (Kakanda (from Agaie-Suleja-Lokoja-Egga(kogi)) Nupe) than Jukun/Kwararafa and idoma;there aree nupe in Kogi and Edo groups too under auchi. Joavid: Nupe's are in Niger state...we are not Nupe |
Ebira is spoken in Edo (Igarra), kogi, Nassarawa, FCT and Niger States as a correction to this entry You don't get it. Ukwunzi does not sound Yoruba. It sounds Igbo or Edoid. None of those other names are Yoruba either. Olukumi is most likely and Edoid speaking group not Yoruboid or it might be an isolate language. You need to understand the difference between an language and a dialect. A language has many dialects while a dialect is the most basic form of a language. Edo has many dialects, Igbo has many dialects, Olukumi is a dialect not a language. Aboh, Ukwuani, ozarra, Ika, are all Igbo. Ebira is spoken only in Kogi and Edo states. I don't know why you included it here.Utagba is also part of Ukwuani and Olukunmi is not Anioma but is Edoid. So far I'm only seeing two languages Igbo and Edo.[/quote] |
when you show me core south, i go show you muddled belt....mmtscheeew karfe: Like which ones? |
dont blame the jihad...u the yoruba are the sower of baseless enmity...crying over ilorin, a place that used to be my state ekt_bear: Basically, despite being different groups with different languages and cultures, you middle belt peoples (and we Yoruba, for that matter) have a common enemy. |
I am Ebira and from the region closest to Yorubaland....so stop assuming that we have no brains. Ebira peoples are not Yoruba and would rather trust things as they are than play as the only minority living with the Yoruba; who can't handle diversity of the country let alone a region....Oloorun Maa je! bashr8: list the states in the middle belt and their ethnic make up, i believe kogi have the egbiras who can easily join yorubas and the southeastern igala who share similarieties,names and cultures with the igbo and a few others that are similar to the edos. |
Na wa O ...U GET WORK + U DEY MIX GEOGRAPHIES BADLY...how Zuru, Kambari, bariba Bussa (Kebbi, Niger, kwara) go mix with Ngizim, Bolewa(Yobe, bauchi?) u really get work how Igala wen no know anywhere pass kogi go join Nassarawa people..... absolute crap+black people are shittiest in Africa! tamme: I missed this part |
Na wa O ...U GET WORK + U DEY MIX GEOGRAPHIES BADLY...how Zuru, Kambari, bariba Bussa (Kebbi, Niger, kwara) go mix with Ngizim, Bolewa(Yobe, bauchi?) u really get work how Igala wen no know anywhere pass kogi go join Nassarawa people..... absolute crap+black people are shittiest in Africa! tamme: I missed this part |
I am from the "Middle belt" and muslim; the terrain also protects us from southern slave raiders who stole many of our people and wont care to sell us even now. Lastly, the middle belt is no majority christian zone at least westwards from kogi,kwara niger... u know what back off with your shit already...we don't need you to tell us who we are or who to be friends with at no time did a hausa state wrestle with yorubaland in history...not zazzau, not gobir, not katsina...all yoruba fought with was the fulani and nupe. I do not see the ambivalence toward the pure Hausa man for any reason! God! Dudu_Negro: I agree _Chucks, in reality we no longer erect physical structures for line of defense or necessarily locate on natural terrains for that sole purpose but where they exist, their effectiveness in delaying and exploiting the enemy is indispensable. |
Katsumoto: Alimi was a Fulani scholar who was well traveled within Yorubaland before settling at Ilorin after invitation from Afonja. His son Abdulsalam became emir after Afonja was killed.Nice one Katsumoto....Solagberu was ethnic Kanuri....dis if for ignorants that think the british invited our tribes in this space called Nigeria. we forget that people were free spirits. Though the Oyomesi kept him out of meetings, he served and was kissed as a general would fighting for Afonja. read the excerpt from "http://www.unilorin.edu.ng/publications/omoiya/Lapai%20Journal%20of%20Central%20Nigerian%20History0001.pdf" On page 22 there are many other publications to back it up.... tribalism in nigeria is sick and unfounded.... |
Its amazing how some pathetic southerners relish the division of a once "monolithic north" that they never spared time to understand...."if we cant have unity why should the North get it"...SMH |
Sadly...in a scenario break up of Nigeria...i see the worst for this MB region as it wont split in two; but probably over six!. Credit goes to Hausa language for the union, Fulani for the coordination....fighting back doesn't fuse diverse cultures from these influences...never has worked in history for any nation. Wake up and understand all parties in Africa's very own embarrassment (Nigeria) |
Mi don nani seda Abbu am Ebira on...Ummu am Fulbe on... |
make una stop dis middle belt rubbish...nupe man can only relate with yoruba and hausa man, ebira na di same tin, Tiv man go relate with Igbo and Ogoja man. the reality na say all of una know more about the larger tribes than about una self....very pity! Important question: if there is core north and middle belt. which one be core south? if u are a northern minority-fight from that base rather than some union wen no dey exist En wada munyal, be kigo am! Waa nyi hakuri/suuru nini! Inyome Omayemi! Go ne Kanadi Tadama! Noobe! Soko Asiriso! |
Your attempt at explaining the history is brave....but sadly wrong. Ebira in 1500 was not in the same timeline with Uthman Dan Fodio. Ebira coming into recognition coincides with a Jukun revolt in Wukari 1600c. against the then largely pagan Hausa rulers in what was described as a Coup detat. Lastly, change references from the history gathered. there is no Gongola, Taraba and Gombe are parts of Jukun-Kwararafa - not Adamawa. Jukuns are kindred of the Kanuris. There are no Ebira from Plateau; only in Nassarawa. You ignored the Ebira Mozum in Shintaku very close to Okene territories. Please dont take everything that explains migration to be related to Fulani wars as the Hausa never joined in as much history abuses. It is sad that we live in close proximity to people for centuries and remain ignorant about neighbours and relationships....aarihin, taangwa nini! |
karfe: Find attached map as a guide. Places in grey are MB areas attached to the Core North. In red are the Yoruba areas of Kwara and KogiSMH slowly! Karfe, nice mapping....wd get your frustrations nowhere, get creative and build bridges rather than chalk-up divides you don't understand |
Matlab: First, I apologise for my use of language...and for having 'effing' idiots trying to decide about my fate, mine. |
edoyad: Nice Map! How in heavens carnation did places like Kogi and Benue end up as north?First, I apologise for my use of language...and for having 'effing' idiots trying to decide about my fate, mine. You did not decide my fate when I was born and it has nothing to do with all your fancies. I am from Kogi State, of Ebira Origin and from a spot that Lord Lugard deemed suitable as the capital of northern Nigeria and later that of Nigeria. I share no similarities with my neighbouring tribes except that we share more in common with the greatr pops; Igala for Ibo & Hausa/idoma and Ebira with Yoruba & Hausa. All your bickerings on this sare absolutley futile, core north and middle belt are all your fancies in divisions that get you nowhere...and no model you propose os viable across slices of race/religion....so pls....back-off! |
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