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OkCornel:
Now let’s check how Jesus was spelt and pronounced in Judeo-Aramaic (variant of West Aramaic) hmmm?

Please let’s check it hmmm

OkCornel:
Read this article and show me where SYRIAC Aramaic was widely spoken in ancient Israel.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Aramaic-language

In Judeo-Aramaic, Jesus is spelt and pronounced as Yeshua or Y’shua. Not Isho (Eastern Syriac variant of Aramaic)

I’m patiently waiting for evidence that Eastern Syriac variant of Aramaic was widely spoken in Israel.

Nobody said syraic aramaic was spoken in ancient israel. And surely “hebrew” was also not spoken in ancient israel.

There’s no where in judeo aramaic that jesus is spelt as Yeshua, as yeshua is purely hebrew.

Eastern syriac aramaic was widely spoken during jesus time.

OkCornel:
What was the main language spoken in ancient Israel?

A) Hebrew and Aramaic (Yeshua or Y’shua)

Or

B) Eastern Syriac (Isho)

You will entertain me today.

Lol, Aramaic is older than hebrew.
Is Aramaic and hebrew the same, so why will they pronounce it the same way?
“Hebrew and Aramaic” bwahahahah

You’ll enjoy me today.

OkCornel:
How is it isho? Was Syriac the dominant language in ancient Israel hmmm?

Remind me again, how’s Jesus spelt and pronounced in Hebrew and Aramaic?

Did jesus live in ancient israel hmmm?

It’s spelt and pronounced isho, why you keep forgetting?

OkCornel:
So how is Jesus spelt and pronounced in the Aramaic he spoke hmmm?

What you posted is the hebrew derivative.
It is isho, do you understand now, hmmm?

OkCornel:
Nice one. I’ve learnt something (isho) today.

Thanks for this.

Going by your explanation is isho Aramaic or Hebrew? Syriac wasn’t the predominant language in Israel hmmm?

It’s Aramaic, the language Iesus chrestus spoke.

And when was hebrew the predominant language in israel? During jesus time hmmmm?

OkCornel:
Jesus originally known as Yeshua, Yehushua, Joshua or Hosea was a common name in Israel back in the days.

To narrow down the search, ask for which Jesus had James (Y’akoub) and Jude (Yehudah) as some of his younger siblings, and also had Mary (Maryam) and Joseph (Yosef) as his parents. Yup, same Jesus crucified by the Romans and buried in Arithmatea’s tomb which is a popular tourist destination in Israel today.


You can’t miss this “Jesus” out of the several others that lived back in the days.

Easy and simple.

The correct name of any jesus in isreal would have been “isho”, and in arabic it’s “isa” as muslims call it.

Kalatium:
Even they too are having a hard time. Events in the past are difficult to reconstruct.

Well they are the best people to give us a better understanding of it.

Kalatium:
Historical events on their own are difficult to prove.

That’s we have historians and archaeologists to give us better understanding on it.

Like seun kuti said what the jewish man called Iesus chrestus did is not spectacular, he already has assurances that he will live again after 3 days “ The Son of Man is to be handed over to men and they will kill him, and three days after his death the Son of Man will rise.” Mark 9:30–31”, we have Africans that died for the Africa nation without assurances of them coming back alive and yet they still laid their lives down.

Every argument I can formulate against the existence of any deistic entity would apply equally to any hypothetical theistic entity.
Extreme claims require extreme evidence.

Deism gained prominence among intellectuals during the Age of Enlightenment, especially in Britain, France, Germany, and the United States. Typically, these had been raised as Christians and believed in one God, but they had become disenchanted with organized religion and orthodox teachings such as the Trinity, Biblical inerrancy, and the supernatural interpretation of events, such as miracles.”

— Deism - Wikipedia

Deists are even more myopic than theist, they only have beliefs while pretending they don’t.

Workch:
Scientism is an ideology that suggests that all knowledge can and should be absolutely dependent on scientific methods without considering the limitations of science with respect to many topics. Scientism with regards to atheism thinks that scientific method can determine the existence of all gods, without putting into consideration that there's a specific kind of God that is deistic that is beyond the scope of science. They also fail to realize that science is actually not interested in disproving gods, even if it tries, it can never disprove all gods, hence science is Agnostic with respect to religion.

Scientism is bad because it's

1. An inherently self-refuting philosophy.
2. Unscientific.
3. Dogmatic.

Dogmatism and science are completely antithetical to each other, so viewing science in a dogmatic way (which scientism does) completely defeats the entire purpose of the scientific method which was specifically designed to avoid dogmatism when applied correctly.

Science is aware of the limitations of the scientific method (as taught in science class). Scientism, on the other hand is not… and doesn't take those limits into account in the reasoning process when determining what is true in reality.

This leads to a plethora of logical errors, such as the unwarranted dismissal of untested / untestable claims, the dogmatic blind belief in the current consensus, it leads to Naturalistic extrapolations for whatever the scientific method can't answer, and many many more logical errors from the mis-application of the scientific method.

Honestly, I'd say scientism may be the most damaging philosophy of our time when fully & properly understood and it is what informs the philosophical choice of many atheists.

The problem is so few atheists fully & properly understand it that they conflate science with Scientism, which is precisely what results in the the numerous intellectual errors, some of which I described.

Scientism is, unfortunately, a very widespread philosophy and atheists who adhere to it are almost always unaware they are. The worst part is Scientism is a common philosophy within the scientific community itself, significantly detracting from their credibility overall.

Those who adhere to Scientism typically assume a HIGHER sense of scientific literacy for blindly believing the current consensus, when in reality that means their scientific literacy is LOWER. Science is not a body of knowledge to be blindly believed. It's a METHOD of discovery requiring no faith… including no faith in academia's current consensus.

Science is not absolute, there are many aspect of life that science cannot explain, it is why we have special fields like sociology, art and commerce that will take care of them. This doesn't mean that I believe many religious gods, I am just saying that atheists are as myopic in their views as even many religious people. Atheists are overdependent on the efficacy of science and practically worship it.


Jaephoenix LordReed Maynman unknownknown sonmvayina

Is sociology, art and commerce base on belief and faith?

Can sociology, art and commerce prove their assertions with facts and evidences?
And to me science means knowledge.
To be agnostic simply means to be “without knowledge”
Knowledge is facts we acquire through study. We can’t “study” god/s because none of us - not even theists - can show where god/s are. We can’t measure the existence or non-existence of god/s because nobody can even agree on who/what “god” is and what the properties of such a god might be.
It’s impossible to study that you can’t even define

According to August Comte(father of sociology)
~Sociology is a science of social phenomenon “subject to natural and invariable laws the discovery which is the subject of investigation”.

sonmvayina:
I wan go sleep...

My ear and eye don full...

Absu was the one that created things here, what did you say marduk create again?

sonmvayina:
Hahahahaha...

First time I am seeing a funny dumb man.....


You really do have them all..

Cretin, this is what he said about “god”, so where did you get god as a creator from?
Where did you get “spiritual” from?

sonmvayina:
Hahahahaha...

First time I am seeing a funny dumb man.....


You really do have them all..

Bwahahahah
this is the first time I’m seeing a lying empty cretin.

You really posses them all.

Do you think the author of the book didn’t use references?

Since you have the book with you, screenshot where you saw this jargons

sonmvayina:
Get this from Amazon and read it...

This is someone’s book, how is it history?

Banilla:
thank you very much... I'll get it online?

Of course.

Banilla:
Thank you

To make it easier to read the tanakh, which christians call Old Testament, read it in the original language and not in Christian versions like king james VERSION etc.

sonmvayina:
You will not still read them...

If you are serious....search for it.

I’ll read them, post just ONE, just ONE. Shut me up please.

I did research and saw None of your jargons, not everyone is an illiterate like you.

Post just ONE ☝️ reference from here please .

Banilla:
The old testament is a puzzle.

That’s because it’s gotten from different sources, written by unknown authors from different centuries.

sonmvayina:
Of course I am always learning..

But not from a retard..

You need to be in an asylum...

Not roaming about....

And hope you always use a condom for sex,

We can't have people like you procreating..

Then post a reference to where you are learning or is it from your smelling ass?

You’re just a cretin that’s in love with his assumptions.

You’re suppose to be on nairaland where all your assumptions will be busted.

Hope your illiteracy and stark ignorance is not hereditary?

Please paste where you learn this jargons from. PLEASE x 100000

sonmvayina:
Meeen..

You are just a blipping retard..

Do I look like a Christian ?


Please avoid my mention..

Just read and learn..

Omo

You are just an unfortunate cretin.

Is joshus/jesus a “Christian” name?
“Book of joshua” no dey tanakh?

Please stop posting jargons!

Stop assuming from your ass and learn!

sonmvayina:
The Tanakh (old testament) was written by the Jews for their national religion called Judaism...

The new testament was written by the Roman Catholic church for the religion called Christianity.

Why they super glued it to the back of the Jewish scriptures is still what I am researching. But the unanimous reason I am getting is that it was to give it some credibility...and propaganda

The books in the tanakh predates jews and judaism, and gotten from different sources, why can’t the christians also borrow the idea?

sonmvayina:
People need your input in their thread..just go ahead and do so......

I already asked you earlier, what’s the origin of the name jesus/joshua.
Does it have yahweh in it

sonmvayina:
People need your input in their thread..just go ahead and do so...

Stop deflating and screen shotting what is not related to the thread..

It shows lack of organisation....if you are not sure of people's post ask them...not for you to run off and post rubbish...it does not speak well of you...

People need facts not assumptions from your Ass, you are derailing this thread with your ignorance that you got from your ass

It shows lack of intelligence… if what you can only do is to keep running your mouth and when we ask for references you go empty but attack those who can post references that doesn’t make you feel good. It speaks of how empty you are.

sonmvayina:
Are you dull?

If not bring your own point to the table let us address it..

All you do is attack people with screen shot of things you clearly don't know...


Please you won't learn like that..


I just feel sorry for you....

Really..

Are you empty?

how can i bring my own “points”, I’m not you that assume from the ass.

All you do is attack and talk about me screenshoting, why don’t you also screenshot your own references?
Or better still post a link to your own references. Who is holding you?

I feel nothing but pity for you. It’s glaring you’re empty.

Nobody is holding you from screenshotting your own references.
You’re only getting emptier, your assumptions make you feel good huh

Shut me up with facts not assumptions from your ass!
Mention a name of your “real scholars” for like a week now, you can’t, why?!!

sonmvayina:
Meen..

Do your research..

I can't spoon feed you...

But you were able to send a link of adapa, but I’ve been asking you this since, you are too empty to answer for like a week.

Please shut me up, PLEASE

sonmvayina:
Where did you get that info from?

So you too can ask for sources?
Provide sources to this jargons, PLEASE, shut me up, PLEASE.

sonmvayina:
I asked you a question .

Don't be rude...and answer..

Use your Wikipedia if you may..

What about my earlier question i asked you like a week ago, don’t be rude and answer.

Please post a reference to where yahweh is the son of enkil and enlil.

sonmvayina:
You have not added any meaningful point since the inception of this thread. All you do is to troll and screen shot from Wikipedia with passages you don't understand and has no resemblance to what is being discussed..

Please waka pass..

And you have not added any reasonable point since the beginning of this thread, all you do is abuse, assume ignorantly from your smelling ass without single knowledge of what you are saying, you are empty.

Post your references and shut me up.

Please use your brain!

sonmvayina:
Retard..

Who is talking about Isaiah..

What's the difference between Torah and Talmud?

Cretin..

Your cryus and marduk story is gotten from where?

What do you understand by Torah and Talmud?

Do you think tanakh was written in one century? Bwahahahah

sonmvayina:
Lol..

Continue your research..

You still have a very long way...

I passed this your stage in 2006......

You will catch up..don't let the length deter you..

You passed this stage and you don’t know what “semitic” means?
You paid heavily for your education and you are this empty?

You’ve shown you are nothing but a dullard who only assumes and has ZERO references to what he’s saying.

You’ll learn.

sonmvayina:
Lol..

Ass wipe..


Always copying and pasting from Wikipedia without proper understanding.

You won't learn like that..

Read it and summarise it and post your understanding...F9 for WAEC...

Stop screen shoting...

Read it and summarise your point...

Lol braindead

Always assuming with zero knowledge and understanding.

You are only deceiving yourself

Read and learn from history, you’ll rather wallow in your ignorance, post your references, you’ll keep quiet like a dullard!

Please send me a link to “Babylonian Torah”

Do you even know Babylonian Talmud has NOTHING to do with Babylonia?

Illiterate, ezra was writing the tanakh for over 100 years bwahahahah