Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible Is "Fallible" their are truth, errors, contradiction and allegories by Maynman: 3:32pm On Oct 19, 2022*. Modified: 3:50pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Lawag3: Did I say I won't show you my findings if only you specify I can't just can't start spilling facts I want it to be a direct answer to your claims that isn't so hard My friend, I asked first, so answer then I’ll answer you. This is common sense na. Did i say I won’t also answer you? I’ve been asking you to prove your “accurate history” since morning literally, how hard is it? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 3:31pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Amujale: Right, since by your own admission, the noah story is fake, then that suggests that it's without merit and as such cannot be used as a point of reference nor a as any type of source.
Furthermore, that renders the chart you posted null and void. The hebrew language goes far beyond the “Israelite”, where did I mention noah?
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 3:26pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Amujale: Prove the rhetoric that you're peddling.
Provide us with the proof of these fictional characters of yours. You are the one mentioning those fictional characters, show me where I mentioned them or said they were real. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 3:23pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Amujale: Prove it.
The Noah story is fake, false and counterintuitive.
Try again, this time kindly provide us with the proof of these fictional characters of yours. Prove what? You are yet to prove any of your assertions lol. The noah story is copied from epic of Gilgamesh, an epic poem. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 3:21pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Amujale: In its original form, the term that would later be Romanised into Africa, predates Rome in itself.
That is to say, the name Africa was coined by the African.
Furthermore, it's the great people of Africa who own the Hieratic script and not anyone else. Africa is a latin word. It was Europeans that created the continent we call “africa” now!
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible Is "Fallible" their are truth, errors, contradiction and allegories by Maynman: 3:19pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Lawag3: Now my friend what made me call out those facts it was because your said the new testament is false you disprove the bible isn't it? So now I'm telling you to show me where in the new testament was doctored what it was changed from it makes it easier for me because I will know what I'm dealing with .if you can show me where the new testament got it wrong and what it is supposed to be I will be able to say no this is where you got it wrong and here is proof. You get it right? My friend, it was you that FIRST said the bible is a accurate history book, and you said you have done your findings, then send me your findings, you’ve been dodging since. First you send I should prove quran which i never made mention of, then you said I should prove what’s wrong with New Testament. Why don’t you send me those findings? Nawa ooo You are been dubious, I can’t trust you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 3:12pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Amujale: The Hebrew Isrealite doctrine is toxic.
A doctrine that tells you to hate on Africans for no justified reason, based on a flawed and malicious premise.
My question to our Brothers and Sisters who subscribe to these type of foreign extremist ideologies is this, are you African?
If the answer is No, then we have nothing for you, the exit is that way ➡️
Assuming the answer is Yes, then kindly explain to logic behind subscribing to a foreign extremist ideology that tells you to hate on yourself Hebrew goes far beyond “Israelite”.
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible Is "Fallible" their are truth, errors, contradiction and allegories by Maynman: 3:10pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Lawag3: I'm getting there my friend I just want you to tell me what part of the new testament was changed and from what it was changed from. Then I will show you facts that proves everything on the new testament is actually accurate. you made claim that the new testament was doctored I'm only trying to disprove that. I asked first, show me, how hard is it, since morning that i have been asking. You are been dubious, my friend. Answer this first sir, You are the one made the FIRST claim, i never make claims of any book. Send me your findings of your “accurate history”. Come on |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 3:08pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Amujale: First off, you will have to prove the credibility of the Noah story before peddling these false narratives.
Noah is a fictional character.
The Noah story is fake, false and counterintuitive.
Secondly, kindly point us towards these original scripts, what y'all peddle as paleo-Hebrew, isn't its an African language that was operational amongst the African communities that existed in and around the Levant during the periods Before the Common Era and the early parts of the first millennium CE.
The Hieratic script is an African script and has nothing to does with any foreign extremist ideologically based narratives, whatsoever. Semitic language comes from phonecian, one of the earliest languages in the world. It was derive from one of the languages spoken in Mesopotamia, even most stories come from there as we see in epic of Gilgamesh. You can’t call the hieratic script an African script. When was “africa” as a continent created? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 2:56pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
[quote author=triplechoice post=117697201][/quote]It has nothing to do with the study of theos(theology)
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 2:52pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Amujale: Arabic is older than the Hebrew Language, and the Arabic language isn't even considered to be ancient.
In other words, the Hebrew language is relatively new , accredited to one Eliezee Ben-Yehuda, this was a language that had its written form invented in the 1800's. The Old Testament was written in paleo Hebrew, much older than arabic. And both hebrew, Arabic, ugartic and Aramaic all comes from Semitic language. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 2:46pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Amujale: Christ comes from the Greek word Kristos which was adopted from the African conception known as KRST. Yeah and it was used to translate hebrew “messiah”. They were following the Old Testament to write New Testament.
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 2:45pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
triplechoice: The fact that harmatia is used in church theology doesn't make it an idealogy. Hamartiology is an idealogy, while Hamartia is not.
This is the difference you're yet to grasp Theology means study of theos. Harmatiaology means study of harmatia. Grab that first! |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible Is "Fallible" their are truth, errors, contradiction and allegories by Maynman: 2:44pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Lawag3: You believe the new testament is a lie? Tell me what you think is wrong with the new testament . Tell me what they changed let me know stop showing only screen shots Answer this first sir, You are the one making claims, i never make claims of any book. Send me your findings of your “accurate history”. Come on |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 2:40pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Amujale: The terms 'Christ predates "Christianity".
The first followers to be known as "Chresteans" were the followers of the church of Serapis during the Greco-romans occupation of Alexandria. Don’t confuse christ for chrest. Christ means messiah in Hebrew and it means anointed. We have many anointed(messiah) prophets in Old Testament. The followers of serapis were called “Chrestians”
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 2:31pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
triplechoice: It doesn't matter. The meaning is the same as the first Just to correct that notion that the first link wasn’t Brittanica. And harmatia and harmatiaology means same thing, common greek words borrowed by early church fathers when writing New Testament, jesus or his disciples spoke Aramaic and hebrew. What is it called in their language?
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 2:29pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
triplechoice: There's danger in knowing just a single story.. Chimamanda Adichie
You know a part of the 'story"; harmatia, but not everything, so don't rest until you know what others know that you don't know .
Ignorance is certainly not bliss. I agree with that, but take your own medicine first before offering it to others
The op is dealing not on word origin but on church theology The focus should be on that. The thread has been badly derailed by you. Without the word origin, chrestians won’t have been able to use it.
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 2:23pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Amujale: Precisely, the first people to be known as Christeans were the followers of the church of Serapis Christus.
There are various concepts that the foreign extremist ideologies make use of today that they adopted from the followers of the church of Serapis i.e Harmatiaology, Soterism e.t.c And we also know the followers of jesus wasn’t called “Chrestians” until they got to antioch, what were they called before? And it was agrippa ll that first used the term “Chrestian” to mock the followers of jesus. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 2:22pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
triplechoice: You asked how it's tragic flaw. Britannica is not literature site. See below The first site you sent wasn’t britannica. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 2:19pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 2:19pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
triplechoice: You asked how it's tragic flaw “From the drama”, and if you look at the origin of the word it will still go back to this. You are the one putting it in a box. Harmatia and harmatiaology means same thing and it was an ideology borrowed from greek philosophers. We know that the early church fathers borrowed alot of terms from greek philosophers while writing the New Testament.
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 2:15pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
triplechoice: There are things you are also ignorant of like everyone else And ignorance is not bliss. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 2:15pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
triplechoice: See below. No need for the quarrel. Nobody knows everything. I have also learnt from you concerning the issue at hand. https://www.google.com/amp/s/literaryterms.net/hamartia/amp/ Why are you sending me a literature site, send me the origin of the word “harmatia” and you see how Christianity borrowed the idea. And not to forget, jesus and his disciples spoke Aramaic and hebrew. It was hundreds of years after, that New Testament was written in Greek.
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 2:12pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Ignorance is not bliss. Study of harmatia is harmatiology 
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 2:11pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
triplechoice: Yes, but the difference is that hamartiology is an ideology ( theology) while harmatia is not even if connected to the latter Before Christianity was created, harmatia has been studied and used that’s how you end up with harmatiaology, the ideology was borrowed from greek philosophers, lol. And theology means study of theos(gods), we also have theogony too.
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 2:05pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
triplechoice: Sorry, I wanted to say they may share the same origin.
The op deals with the ideology of hamartiology and not Just the origin of the word alone
I thought you should have focused on that, instead of making it seem as if he is focused on the etymology of the word. This quarrel on the thread would not have happened.
If you do your research very well you cannot fail not to see that those terms share the same idea behind them.
Fatal flaw is the weakness of the tragic hero which leads to downfall, while sin in hamartiology is also regarded has weakness in Christianity Harmartiology is simply the study of harmatia!. These are greek words that existed before Christianity was created in rome. He made a wrong assertion that harmatia comes from ham, and that’s brutal lie. Can you send me a link to the harmatia from the Drama you did research on?
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 1:59pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Borrowed from greek philosophers before nicene Christianity was created in rome, And not to forget the New Testament was written in greek. Tick tick!
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 1:49pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Illiterate, the word existed before Christianity was created, it was an ideology that the church borrowed!
“Harmatia comes from the root word Ham“ hamburger nih bwahahahah
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 1:43pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Amujale: ….. You are a lowlife nonentity with a vegetable brain. “Does us a favour and bugger off” and continuing barking like the wild mad dog you are! |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 1:41pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
triplechoice: Lol In drama, one of the genres of literature, harmatia means the fatal flaw which leads to the downfall of the hero or heroine in the play, while hamartiology is part of the church theology which deals with the doctrine of sin.
Even though both terms share the same etymology, don't mean the same thing at all. A lion and a tiger are from the same cat family but not the same kind of wild animal.
Harmatia is one of the major feature of drama, while hamartiology which is the subject matter of the op is part of church ideology that has to do with sin.
The op is certainly on the right track No need for the confusion “ Harmatia comes from the root word Ham” Can you send a link to this? These words existed before Christianity was created!
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 1:32pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Amujale: …. You are a dummy! Answer the questions and stop barking like the wild mad dog you are, is that all you got, mad dog? Even you know you lack knowledge of what you are saying!, just regurgitating junks meant for wild mad dogs like you, self acclaimed scholar with empty brain! |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Hamartiology? by Maynman: 1:28pm On Oct 19, 2022 |
Amujale: ….. You keep barking the same thing since yet you are not making progress just like your life. Dummy!, Talk is cheap! |