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paxonel:
I don't Bash other people religious ideas and request for proofs of what they teach, I'll rather learn to read their holy books and extract the proof I'm looking for if what they teach bothers me that much.
Firstly, I don't request for proof or enquire into any religious tenets or beliefs from any other religion, why then should i read their religious books?
I expect adherents of other religions do the same with me.
But if any adherent of other religion want to educate me about his religion, then he should present a sound argument.
and hope you were neutral? ofcourse I'm always neutral

That means you are not listening to your advice.
This is what you said about your book now you are changing tone.

Don’t tell us to read your book, You should present a sound argument and proof of your Yahweh outside your book as you’ve advised other religion to do also

Ken4Christ:
Mankind is still the one ruling physically but an unseen power, Satan has an influence over him.

So satan is the one controlling mankind and influencing it?
How is mankind ruling then? Rulers influence, they don’t get influenced.

Ken4Christ:
He did not expect him to. The nature of God which is love thinks no evil. He believes the best in what he has created.

That means your god is not all knowing and your god didn’t create everything. He only created good things, we should look for who created evil things.

Ken4Christ:
The redemptive plan is not yet fully executed. But the prize has been paid. Isreal is yet to accept it. As soon as Isreal accepts Jesus, Satan will be thrown into the bottomless pit.

So mankind doesn’t have the authority on earth?

And which Israel are you talking about? Israel near iraq?

Ken4Christ:
Please, do not use small letter for God. If you do it again, I won't bother to reply you.

God created him perfect as Lucifer. He chose to dwell on the wrong thought.

how do you pronounce god, goD, and God?

How can a perfect being have a wrong thought? Do you know what perfect means?

Ken4Christ:
In the context that he is all knowing, yes. But he did not expect him to betray him because God is love and love believes the best of everyone.

So you mean an all knowing god didn’t know he will be betrayed? What else does he not know?

Ken4Christ:
It is our duty because the authority to rule the earth has been transferred to mankind. It will be unfair for instance to employ a manager to manage your company and you will be interfering with his job. Allow him do his job. If you are not satisfied, you can fire him and employ another manager.

God did not allow Satan. It was Adam who gave Satan the advantage over him. But our Lord Jesus has come to redeem mankind out of his power or dominion.

Yes, it's true that God heard the prayers of one man, Elijah and he did as he commanded. There was also a time that prayers could not save Israel. God allowed them to go into captivity for 70 years in Babylon because of their sins.

There will be a supernatural intervention. Some of us are already praying night and day. And the Lord will hear.

But you just said satan is the ruler of this world? Now the authority to rule the earth has been transferred to mankind?
You are confused.

Appleyard:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5005520/senator-rubio-questions-undersecretary-nuland-biolabs-ukraine

So where did she mention hunter biden with biolab?
What time in the video did she confirm that hunter biden has connection with any biolab?

Ken4Christ:
God created Lucifer who became Satan. He was an arch angel in heaven until the day he planned to exalt himself as God. He wanted to be like God. So, he was cast down from heaven and became Satan from that day. Read the narration below;

Isaiah 14:12-15
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! note

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I WILL BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH.

15 Yet thou shalt be BROUGHT DOWN TO HELL, to the sides of the pit.

Your god didn’t know satan will betray?
Who created Satan? Who gave satan his thoughts?

Ken4Christ:
Defeated means he has legally been stripped of his dominion over mankind. So only those who accept and believe makes it vital in their lives.

Most importantly, his own people, Israel which he originally chose for his inheritance are yet to embrace this salvation. But they will do so in the future.

So, as long as this earth still remains, Satan still has the permission to continue to reign over the earth. But those who believe in Christ have the authority to resist him and bind him.

He will be dethroned when Jesus comes back to deliver the children of Israel from the anti Christ who will be revealed in the future. And Satan will be thrown into the bottomless pit for one thousand years while Jesus will establish his kingdom on earth for that same period.

He has been stripped off his dominion over mankind yet he still rules the earth, you are contradicting yourself.
It was your god that gave satan permission?

And what do you mean that it was Adam that caused all this troubles on earth? Why then did Jesus die?

MaxInDHouse:
So Nijagogetsense has been silenced, shey?

Well thanks for starting what you can't finish!

Only Illiterate will call satan, esu. Even the error from Samuel ajayi crowther has been corrected. But deity worshippers still continue to lie about it to promote their gods.

MaxInDHouse:
So Nijagogetsense has been silenced, shey?

Well thanks for starting what you can't finish!

Why not calm down and stop the hasty assumption.
And learn from your mistake which you got from Samuel ajayi crowther, the man that translated English Bible to Yoruba and ignorantly translated esu to satan.

paxonel:
Are there valid arguments presented by these religious books?
Let them be published, they will be widely accepted so long the arguments are genuine.

One thing i know about the human mind, humans are always inquisitive towards knowing what is the truth especially in this modern generation where there is wisdom and understanding.
You present a sound argument, they listen to you and see the correlation of what you are saying with other truth they already know. That already is a proof that what you are telling them is the truth.

But if another person bring his argument and it is not sound enough, then they will settle for your own that is sound and correlated to reality and reject the other person

This explains why more people practice one religion while few people practice the other.
More people will practice a religion because more truth is found in it tenets
And less people will practice a religion because it tenets are far from reality

But you said this? Now they have to bring their argument, it’s no longer they should read to know content?
How many other religious book have you read to know their content and see the proof, and hope you were neutral?

paxonel:
The bible
We have seen handicaps doing great things, greater than what a lot of wholesome people can do. So, being deficient has nothing to do with the physical state of the body, it is a problem of the mind.

You know, it's good that one is seeing himself or herself being whole in the body and healthy. But peradventure if anyone is handicapped by any circumstances, so long he is alive he has the responsibility to keep himself happy and be functional to the society doing things that will put value to himself. By so doing, his current situation wount be a problem that require a miracle.
no,
I'm not the position to school you on your belief, I'm not even trying to convince you to believe in spirits

All I'm saying is, people like us that believe, have seen what you are yet to see, that's the difference.

It's like I choose to read a book and know it content.
You choose not read the book so you wouldn't possibly know it content, it's normal.
But by the time you hear me speak about the book and you ask, where is the proof of what i have just said? Then i will refer you to the book i read.
If after that you still choose not to read the book, that means you will still not possibly know that there is a proof until you have dedicate time to read it.
So, pending on anytime you choose to read your position about the book should remain neutral

The same thing can be said about other religion books.
You can’t claim Yahweh is the most powerful when you are yet to read other religious books, you should remain neutral until you’ve read other religion books. Listen to your advice.

Yaveh worshipper bwahahahah

orisa37:
The SOUL and MIND ARE NOT THE SAME.
THE MINDS ARE YOUR SENSES AND
THE SOULS ARE YOUR JOINTS, NERVES AND REACTION AGENTS IN YOUR BODY.
THE SOUL IS THE HORSE OF THE BODY AND
THE MIND THE EAGLE OF THE BODY.

Shebi oduduwa is the same as Christ?

MaxInDHouse:
Will you like to know what Christianity means?

When you tell us where you get your own “Jehovah” from. Shall we?