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HeatSeeker:
(your short write up deliberately left out other groups that strongly believe in and acknowledge hell) and ignorance of the divine.
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If you're not a shameless lying coward, mention the groups.

If you have ever done any research on "hell" you won't be disgracing yourself here.

HeatSeeker:
Oh dear! Yours is a serious case indeed and it's not even funny. Smh

It's funny how the person that believes in a god that resides in heaven, he also believes hell that has no bearing in any religion other than myths is calling someone else funny, it's crazy 🤣
Can't you see the absurdity, abi "divine" has blinded you?

Why don't you use your brain and find out the concept of hell, is it everything that's "divine"?
Use your brain!

HeatSeeker:
What gave you the impression that I worship the "israelite god"?

I only engaged you because of your cowardice (you attack Christianity because you know they won't fight back), hypocrisy (your short write up deliberately left out other groups that strongly believe in and acknowledge hell) and ignorance of the divine.

Are you willing to experience hell before you can believe it exists? There are ways to obtain knowledge of the divine without passing through death. Simply say so.

The "God" that is a father that has throne in heaven, that you worship where is it from?


Your delusion of "hell" is only in your fantasy.
You are brainwashed so much you don't even know what "divine" mean, anything above your limited thinking is "divine". Devil and divine mean same thing.
Learn semantics pertaining your religion that was written in foreign language, you refuse.


The Evolution of God:

Dyeus Phtr: the Father of the Sky (the Sun.)
Zeus: (pronounced Dyas in Old Greek; Dias today.)
Deus: (the name Jupiter was first given.) Deus Jupiter: (Sky Father, later; di, dii,dies: as god.)
Deus: (the Latin name of the Christian God)


Zot: Proto-Albanian Sky Father.
Gott: Germanic.
Gud: Various languages and proto-languages.
God: English.


Dio: Italian.
Dios: Spanish.
Dhia: Irish.
Theos: Greek: Ζεύς - Θεός - Θεός.
Dieu: French.
Diyos: Filipino.
Deus: Portuguese.
Zeu: Romanian.

I know it's hard to leave all mythology concepts that has been indoctrinated into you from birth.

First obtain knowledge of what "divine" from latin divus really mean..

HellVictorinho6:
at least u dare not leave ur tracks open

It's all opened.

HeatSeeker:
I know there is a hell. I do not need to experience such a terrible place to know it exists, because as a divine being, I have being able to obtain an understanding of the works of God. Giving literal interpretations to Ancient texts won't take you very far. Some of these texts are esoteric in meaning, and this meaning will be lost to you if you approach them the way you do. There is hell, simply ask God for an experience of hell and see if he won't grant it to convince you.

Hell exist in your fantasy, simply have knowledge on the Israelite god you are worshipping.

I know it's hard to leave all mythology concepts that has been indoctrinated into you from birth.

I will tell you again, ONLY THIS LIFE EXIST, enjoy it.

Divine and Devil mean same thing, have knowledge on the words you are saying..

Was just trying to make you help yourself when you said this.

"They keep saying i should keep changing my wardrobe, i should get a house for myself, i should get an android phone, i should get several footwears,I should get this,get that, do this contribution or that programme ,etc NO MATTER HOW MUCH I AM PAID.


Life is baseless but sadly death never corrects anything.

so, i am just so downcast.

i dont understand how i can have peace with so many fears caused by constant frustration.

these issues have caused me to struggle with addiction, depression
and a great chance of having more physical health problems that i wont have money to treat.

i have never been getting a full month salary for at least 6 consecutive months since i finished secondary school in 2015.

it has always been barely 2 or 3 consecutive months of what has never been up to 30k but rather mostly about 9 to 13k.

there are many times when i have had no means of earning anything.
what i have mostly seen online is people asking me to pay what i have never made or what i have only made a miserable number of times for what i may not even gain from at the end.


i have seen misery a lot more often than anything else.


i dont even know why i am posting it here.


damn!"

HellVictorinho6:
What sorta derailing is this

U keep assuming u deserve attention

Nah, attention deserves me.

HeatSeeker:
I noticed that you focus so much on semantics and definitions, maybe because of your academic background or probably because you think logic is the only way to meaning. This is hindering you from the experiences that will make to discard the so called knowledge you have acquired.

Do you know what...

I feel that you are the type that will need to experience something first hand before they can believe it. Do you want to have an experience of hell in this lifetime?

Only people that are ignorant of semantics talked down on it, we are talking about ancient stories, to determine what the text says, This requires knowledge of original languages, because all translations are unreliable at points, and also what it would have meant in its original contexts.

Listen to yourself, since you have experienced this thing, why do you need to believe?
Won't you KNOW?
You only believe what you lack knowledge on, which is evident in you

HellVictorinho6:
Keep wasting ur time

Time does not exist, you are always in the eternal now.
The future and past are illusions that causes anxiety and depression.

HeatSeeker:
What is your concept of the word "reality"? Do you think it is only bound within your 5 senses? If you feel so, then it's truly saddening. The light (knowledge) in you is darkness (ignorance).

That's where your ignorance comes from, "reality" as you said is a CONCEPT created, an abstraction.

Look around you that's "reality".
You won't know light without darkness, they go together, one won't exist without the other like front and back.

Yahweh na natural warlord.

HeatSeeker:
Smh!

The irony of someone that believes hell "exist in reality", "smh" very well.

HeatSeeker:
In reality, hell exists and serves a divine purpose. Don't wait until you die before you come to this realisation.

In your fantasy you mean, don't waste your present life looking for hell when you die, enjoy life because This life is ALL. Divine and Devil(Daeva) mean same thing.

My write-ups will be dry and uninspiring to Believers.

CVProfwritter1:
To me, Masturbation is a SIN. Anything one can not do in the open where other people are is bad. People that masturbate do it in secret, if it's not a SIN why not do it in public?

I think it's the stigmatization.

And people also don't have sex or defecate in public.
There are so many things one do alone that if you do it when other people are around, you might feel embarrassed.

HellVictorinho6:
Keep repeating that like a retarded crackhead

What you looking for is right within you.

HeatSeeker:
Yet Christianity is the subject of your denunciation. Smh

Most Christians don't know it's a myth yet. Pele.

HeatSeeker:
The concept of hell is not entirely a Christian thing, other religions that are not Abrahamic also have a hell or a place of eternal damnation for those that will not obey.

Yes you are right, the concept of hell even the name hell which is hel comes from Norse mythology.

In Norse mythology, Hel also called Helheim is the name of the underworld where many of the dead reside, presided over by a Queen called Hel.
https://www.nairaland.com/7690588/hel-hell

It's all myth

Pope JOHN PAUL II
Wednesday 28 July 1999

The images of hell that Sacred Scripture presents to us must be correctly interpreted. They show the complete frustration and emptiness of life without God. Rather than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy..... This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called ‘hell’”.
https://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/audiences/1999/documents/hf_jp-ii_aud_28071999.html



Four distinct Hebrew and Greek words—Sheol, Gehinnom, Hades, and Tartarus—have been consolidated into the single English term "Hell," despite their vastly different meanings.
Clearly, at times, the English language may fall short in its ability to precisely communicate specific ideas
In English, Sheol (Hebrew) and Hades (Greek) both translate to "the grave or under the ground" and "the place or location of the dead," respectively.

Examining Sheol in particular, passages like Psalm 6:5-- For in death there is no remembrance of you; in Sheol who can give you praise?
Also, Ecclesiastes 3:20, Ecclesiastes 9:5 Ecclesiastes, and 9:10 emphasizes it.

Considering the New Testament and Jesus' teachings, which were delivered in Hebrew and Aramaic, it's noteworthy that he didn't use the term "Hell." Hel/Hell comes from Germanic and Norse languages and beliefs.
Instead, he used "Gehinnom,"
https://www.nairaland.com/7671861/gehenna
A reference to a physical valley known as the Valley of Hinom in Jerusalem. Gehenna, as explained in the provided link, was associated with fiery torture and sacrifices.
In Jeremiah 7:31
And they go on building the high place of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire..."

Subsequently, the valley transformed into Jerusalem's de facto garbage disposal site, where fires perpetually consumed anything undesirable within the city, including all sorts of waste, even human remains.
Isaiah 66 speaks of this saying “And they will go out and look on the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; the worms that eat them will not die, the fire that burns them will not be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind.”

Tartarus, on the other hand, is mentioned only once in the New Testament in 2 Peter 2:4. It is primarily recognized from Hesiod's Theogony as a place of entombment for mythical beings, Titans, and, in later myths, mortals who committed grave sins.

The idea of a fiery and eternal Hell, as often conceived today, wasn't present in the teachings of Jesus. Instead, he used Gehinnom as a Metaphor to illustrate the destructive nature of hatah/Sin.


So, where did the modern belief in hell and the afterlife originate?

The leaders of the early Christian church dedicated a significant portion of their time to preaching and writing in support of the doctrine of the immortal soul. Among them, Athenagoras (AD 133–190) stands out as the first church father to extensively advocate for the doctrine of the immortal soul. His teachings were deeply influenced by Plato's philosophy, as he introduced Plato's concept of an immortal soul into Christianity.
Encyclopedia Britannica, “Athenagoras,”
Believing that pagan Greek teachings and Christianity were compatible, he skillfully wove the two together. “Athenagoras frequently combined the beliefs of the Greek poets and philosophers, particularly Plato, with the doctrines of Christianity”
https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/athenagoras

Furthermore, Tertullian, who lived during the same period as Athenagoras, openly cited Plato to advocate for the doctrine of the immortal soul.


The Book of Revelation also played a role in shaping these beliefs.
https://www.nairaland.com/7382665/how-revelation-got-into-bible

Understanding the historical development of religious concepts is essential for a comprehensive interpretation of religious texts.

Pictures of Gehinnom 👇

HellVictorinho6:
F.....k tha discourse!

You are not thinking, your mind does it for you, there's no independent thought. You are not your mind.

Aemmyjah:
Unleash the monikers from the Cage to like and share

Unleash the sacrifice you and your family perform to your gods that took your generation out of slavery in Egypt

Aemmyjah:
I hope you can switch to your different monikers and start liking and sharing your comments since they only make sense to you... If no passer-by will laugh at a mad man's joke, he himself will laugh to feel good

That won't stop you and your family from sacrificing burnt offering to Yahweh.
Brainwashed slave.

Aemmyjah:
At the name of SIRTee15
Someone brain must reset
Person who's family still use firewood to cook
Person wey no sabi smoke and aroma

Even your master you call for help knows.

Keep defending your slave masters, you and your family and offering burnt sacrifice to the god of Israelites.

Jewish slave actively defending his masters fraud that originated in middle east.
If not for brainwashing, wetin concern naija with a place called Nineveh

HellVictorinho6:
this is unnecessary from you

It's just an opening of a discourse.
The mind always has desires.

xproducer:
Believe it!

You believe what you don't know, Believer.

Dead sea scrolls, 4QDeutj-- Deuteronomy 32:8-9.

"When El gave the nations as an inheritance, when he separated the sons of man, he set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of El (bny 'l[hym]). For Yahweh's portion was his people; Jacob was the lot of his inheritance".

You are quoting Jewish books talking about their LOCAL DEITY.

xproducer:
There Is No Other God

Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:

You are worshipping the Israelite god, even in your Jewish books it made mention of other gods that the Israelite god was jealous of.

HellVictorinho6:
u enjoy my sorrow

I don't see it as sorrow.

HellVictorinho6:
u have no-thing for me

Surprising, that's exactly what I have for you.

AnAbnormalHuman:
. My religion remains Christianity and yes, I practice and try to be like Christ...
I dunno who re-categorized religion into Jehovah's Witnesses and Winners Chapelists and Mountain Of Fire-lites and every other thing you consider as a religion.

By the way, face it, the only thing that's making you consistent in your organization is that zeal that you inherited from your Islamic days.
Nothing too special about the organization, I've seen y'all, especially janosky insulting people so openly, unlike Jesus (Jesus said that whoever calls his brother a fool is in danger of hell)

Fool, you guys were warned of Chrestians.
Look up, chrēmatisai, look up Chrestians, connect the Dot.

If at all, Messiah will be Translated to the Anointed never as "Christ".

Acts11:26
And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they aassembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were WARNED OF CHRESTIANS first in Antioch.

Doesn't it make much sense, what were they teaching them? AnAbnormalHuman

Time does not exist, you are always in the eternal now, it's a flowing stream.

ANormalHuman:
Yh you're right.

Always remember this word: Time

Some will be in the Old Heaven for a Time
Some will be in the New Heaven for a Time

You mentioned a New Heaven but you didn't mention the New Earth

Some will be in the Old Earth for a Time.
Some will be in the New Heaven for a Time.

They are all metaphorical, even ancient people didn't think this LOW.

Look up, that sky is heaven. Lord of Hosts(Planets), Akasha.

ANormalHuman:
As for trinity, I dunno, its probably difficult to explain it easily.

You really sat down and believe a Jewish man died for your sins in 2AD or so, what ?

That's what they did to Panare Indians, chai