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Modecaih:
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom,,a word is enough for the wise

Don't fear any Lord. Use your sense and be disciplined

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Elusive001:
Bros Just dey clean the mucus from your nose as you dey cry. No be only you dey wail as Netanyahu dey deal with terrorists.

Ah
Oh
Ah
He lamented

Elusive001:
Please, dey wipe your nose as you dey cry. You are not the first person to cry.

The truth is the truth whether you subscribe to it or not

Dotherightthing:
Can't these bassttaardds be tracked and wiped out

You want to track first class citizens?

Wealthy pastors make una sell all the rolls Royce, Benz, private jets and do the work of God. Jesus said that don't pursue earthly treasures but use your money to help people.

lilsmart:
This one go long

Thank you for your perspective. Let me address your points directly and logically, without emotion.

First, you state that I missed the point totally and that this is about hatred for pastors. This is not about hatred it is about Accountability and cause and effect. The core argument is simple: when any institution (church or otherwise) publicly flaunts immense wealth in a society plagued by poverty and crime, it logically becomes perceived as a High Value Target. it's a basic principle of security and risk.

Second, you correctly say the church is not the government and pastors are not your president. This is not an either/or situation it is a both/and situation. We can, and must, demand that the government fulfills its primary duty to secure lives.(See biblical quotes for reference below )

Finally, you ask for the correlation between pastors and kidnapping. The correlation is economic incentive. If kidnappers believe an organization has vast, readily available funds (a perception reinforced by the public display of wealth by its leaders), they are more likely to target its members to extort those funds. The suffering falls on the poor members because they are the accessible targets, while the leadership is insulated by security.


Nathan to King David (2 Samuel 12:1-14): After David committed adultery with Bathsheba and had her husband killed, the prophet Nathan did not remain silent. He directly confronted the king, famously declaring, "You are the man!"


Elijah to King Ahab (1 Kings 18:16-18; 21:17-24): Elijah repeatedly confronted King Ahab for leading Israel into idolatry and for judicial murder. He did not say, "The king is the authority, so I must be quiet." He declared, "You have abandoned the Lord’s commands and have followed the Baals."

John the Baptist to King Herod (Matthew 14:3-4): John publicly condemned Herod for his immoral marriage, saying, "It is not lawful for you to have her." For this, he was imprisoned and beheaded, demonstrating the cost of speaking truth to power.

Jeremiah 22:3: This is a direct word to the king: "This is what the Lord says: Do what is just and right. Rescue from the hand of the oppressor the one who has been robbed. Do no wrong or violence to the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow." This is a divine job description for a government, and the prophet was the one delivering the performance review.


This is not fake rhetoric. It is a critical analysis of how different sectors of our society contribute to a complex crisis. We are all entitled to our opinions, and mine is that solving our problems requires holding everyone, not just the government, to a standard of responsibility.

See no mind those brainwashed guys. Your opinion is the best.

Spot on
Spot on
Spot on

lilsmart:
And now, let this be the moment all those top men of God the Bishops, Apostles, and Reverends who have built empires on the offerings of the people prove their divine calling. You have amassed great wealth from your congregations, often untaxed and unaccounted for, all in the name of building the house of God. Well, a part of His house has been violently stolen, and His worshippers are priced at a hundred million naira each.

This is not the time for prayers alone it is the time for the greatest offering you will ever give. Open the vaults you say are meant for God's work and use that wealth to literally redeem the lives of His people. Since you have made yourselves the custodians of both the spiritual and financial life of your flock, then you must now be the ones to lead the charge in paying this ransom. There is no more direct work of God than this.

Make i hit the nail on the head.
When pastors and churches constantly flaunt their wealth buying private jets and exotic cars they are essentially painting a giant target on their congregations. They are advertising the church as a lucrative financial institution, not just a place of worship.

The most painful part is that it is the poor, faithful members who will suffer for this ostentation. The wealthy pastors are already shielded by tight police and private security. So, the kidnappers will logically target the vulnerable, everyday worshippers. They become the pawns because the criminals now believe the church has the money to pay. The poor are used as human ATMs, and their suffering is the price of their leaders' vanity.

Critical thinking everyone is entitled to his/her opinion

This is laughable..
This is wickedness at its peak.

Netanyhanu aka Devilyanhnu aka Satanyahnu AKA God-yanhu (they are all the same).

One being playing different roles. If you know you know and if you don't know it will be hard to know.

[quote author=Judolisco post=137546009]U see thread like this of people complaining since 2015...d same people are supporting him today.... D same people sat at home on Mondays for years... Can u imagine a whole region, being controlled by someone in Finland..... Controlling governors and senators.... Kai[/quote
That is how pastors control people...
Because some people don't use their brains

budaatum:
Consider me one of those following. I want to see your "evidence".

Aren't you afraid of being exposed?

budaatum:
You might as well ask me to be transparent about my age or my earnings and what I do for it.

My gender is irrelevant to the discussion, and I am not under any obligation to be good.

You are right about that and it is cool

What about those murdered due to his utterance and command? I just watched the video of those military couple beheaded few years ago and I have not been myself. What sought of wickedness is that? Gosh I wish I did not watch it.

Omo humans are barbaric

TRUTHaDDICTED:
The Faces of evil men that has brought course upon themselves and their generations. Posterity will never be kind to them beyond their graves.

What about those murdered due to his utterance and command? I just watched the video of those military couple beheaded few years ago and I have not been myself. What sought of wickedness is that? Gosh I wish I did not watch it.

budaatum:
Why is my gender your concern?

Does it change anything I've written?

It is nothing, but it is good to be transparent. I'm a male and I say I'm a male but you are finding it difficult to state your gender

triplechoice:
When I am done with this issue, we will look into that together.

I will mention you tomorrow once I start exposing how he hid the evidence two years ago. You're going to shocked. I can guarantee you that.

Please mention me when you are doing the expose.

triplechoice:
Silly and foolish attempt at gaslighting.

@Meedon, don't let him make you ignore the evidence I have presented.

And ask him if his actions on this thread are the instances of what he means by "quoting" AMORC

I have warned you already of his assessment of your judgement. So, open your eyes.

My concern now is with his or her gender

Owo imagine
See below. USA a country of particular concern

This is a cause for concern.

His people are scattered all over my state, because these bandits don chase them out of their State and he is there in the other post denying banditry in his states.

That is right...

budaatum:
Life never stops for anyone.

budaatum:
Nothing, I'd think. It's not like we were married and are now going through some acrimonious divorce or anything like that.

We both came, we both saw, we engaged and we are where we are now. Tomorrow (or tonextyear) will be another day with different concerns, though someone will bump this thread like it was bumped and resurrect it again and again, as is the nature on Nairaland.

And life goes on after that right

budaatum:
I'm not at war with triple. Nor do I think I'm disturbing the peace from reigning.

We fell out not agreeing about our opinions of near death experiences.

Ref:
https://www.nairaland.com/7726647/near-death-experience-atheist-professor/7#123900432

https://www.nairaland.com/6942843/matter-mind/36#116555518

Well what can I say

Jagabanbogu:
Ladies and gentlemen.... War

Where is the gunnnnnnnnn?
Please don't start war ooooo
I don't like seeing dead bodies biko

This is not fair ooooooo



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budaatum:
You will have to ask triple that. Metaphorically speaking though, I think he thinks he's seen what's under my skirt and intends to reveal it to you.

Triple is not disturbing me though. He is writing his opinion as he's entitled to, and that disturbs me not since many reading here, like you, have minds of your own and can form opinions of your own or buy his if that pleases you.

In fact, I'm amused to see him trying to implant his opinion in minds like he's accused me of doing. History will show how successful he's been, I guess.

Well well let bygones be bygones. Make peace with Triple so that peace will reign

fuckingAyaya:
See what Nnamdi kanu caused

Nnamdu 🐄 nu

Even our FCT is not safe again

Josephine described the fallen officer as one who “paid the supreme price in the line of duty.”

This life na born-to-die

Some.girls only know how to cook indomie. Na only indomie men go chop