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NativeBoy: Wow. With but a statement you have shown that you are out of your depth here. You have lost all credibility. I officially bow out of this conversation. You clearly just latch on to any theory that you think disproves the bible.

For the benefit of those following this thread and yourself, I leave you with this. Please check out Psalm 46 in the Great Bible of 1540 or the Bishop's Bible of 1546 both put together before Shakespeare was born. They too have the words "shake" in verse 3 and "spear" in verse 9. I suppose Shakespeare time traveled back in time to insert in name in those bibles as well.

Wow.

killer punch .... Nice one bro, let me not be biased here, you have put this two orunmila and esu men to shame.... Bow out with proud bro, you have won this one.

FOLYKAZE: Is this how mountain turn to nation? Smh

And your blood thirsty God that reveal world war 3 to Obadiah couldn't see that he failed woefully? Are you guys not worshipping the same failure who revealed the vision to Obadiah. The God that is ready to suck the blood of little children and innocent women. Yeah....we know what happened to rocks....weathering breaks it down to plain. Your God has been defeated over and over again.

Yoruba: Eniyan ni ki e be, Olorun Oba ki i binu.

English: Humans are the ones to beg or to plead to, God never gets upset/angry/annoyed.

I dont know why you are human if your Ori cant save you.

its not yet time to judge Obadiah, he said 2015, this is just 2013. Talking about failure, it is your pagan god that has failed. Not upto 1000 people worship those things anymore. Now thats failure.

Who are you to judge your creator? He created you and I, questioning Him is not a part of your mission on earth. So Folake according to Mr President you have no say in these things, these things are spiritual, only for enlightened people to understand and not idol worshipper like you are

macof: Bull poo, u not using ur intelligence in d right way that's why Orunmila would always take it away from u.

These verses u show are made in poetic parables which aren't literal

U mean to tell me the entire Bible is not literal?

So when the Bible says "Jesus is the living son of God" we shouldnt take it literal?

FOLYKAZE: We know mountain or rocks symbolize strength and war. We know it symbolize destruction too following the meaning of El-shaddai and this kinda come from the use of stone in killing and fighting back in the days. Shaddai also could mean fertility. So what is the non literal you are talking about here?

bad meat: Lost scriptures mentioned in the BIBLE,(1)The book of the wars of the Lord:Num21:14,(2)The book of Jasher,Josh10:13;2sam 1:18,(3)Book of the acts of solomon,1kng11:41,Book of samuel the seer1 chr 29:29,Book of Gad the seer,1chr 29:29,will post more with scripture reference later!pls read also The Book of Mormon another Testament of Jesus the Christ

Reptyle: Bros with all due respect, the answer to your question is irrelevant to the context.

Jesus Christ while here on earth never invoked any saint to intercede on his behalf. He prayed to God directly. He also taught his disciples to pray in a specific way...directly to God.

It was never recorded anywhere that the early Christians invoked the name of Peter, Paul, Mary or any of the other apostles to intercede on their behalf. Where then did this doctrine originate from? Is the catholic church a custodian of some secret body of knowledge outside that taught by Christ? It is recorded that some of these saints rebuked Christians who tried to direct worship at them while they were alive describing themselves as "mere men." They died and went to their rest. Stop invoking familiar spirits in the name of "Saints"

Honor your saints. But stop asking them to intercede on your behalf to God or to Jesus. They do not currently have that ability. Stop deifying mere men. Stop praying prayers that only make you feel good and holy but are largely ineffectual.

aManFromMars: strange thread..

@Alfa: try sending an sms to God. I hear dem don install bbm for heaven.

chukwudi44: Thank God even an atheist answered it correctly!! I wonder why protestants think Peter,Mary and other saints are dead when Jesus himself have pronounced them alive

MostHigh: Yeah! and you could be Ekwensu.

obadiah777: Ishi and Nnamdi Azikiwe were high school classmates. thats how old she is

RationalDude: Logicboy's avatar looks like someone who makes a living selling akamu.

Ishilove: Imo, they should remove the sword and replace it with a bell. Woli tinz

laffing my eyes off. . You don turn Obadiah to Cele?

martinkem: SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING CAN BE PARAPHRASED INTO "GOD LIKES TO SEE US SUFFER FIRST"

Ishilove: Bad belle. You want me to tell the world you turned 41 last year?

Obadiah is 33

obadiah777: yup you are 20


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obadiah777: he correct. death could be both physical and spiritual. and you can receive both as judgement. depends on the severity of your crime ( galatians 6 vs 7 )

rudedough: I am a scientific prophet and I can assure you that If humans stop giving birth, the world would end in about 120 years.

That's true prophecy. Forget about the end time is near nonsense. My great grandfather heard that but here we are still talking about vision 2100.

simpleseyi: If I don't drive her from Yaba, Lagos (not Yaba Left ooo) to church in Otta, Ogun State which is about 40 kilometres, she will call me anti-Christ and pray that Holy Ghost Fire changes me, she will then attempt to cast non-existing demons out of me. I have to do her bidding so that peace will rein. I don't know why her God lives so far. My God lives in me. Last evening, I had my evening prayer with Audu our gateman just by the gate because I didn't feel like going to mosque.

rudedough: LOL that was epic. I didn't know demons walk out of Churches, through the car park to the main road to catch the bus. That was hilarious.

Satan is unreal
God is unreal and Jesus is not any different.

There are no proof of their existence so they don't exist. They exist only in the minds of those who want it to exist. Just as willie-willie, ayamatanga, ishawuru and those scary home videos existed in our subconscious when we were kids.

Religion is a multi national business organisation and the bible is the right tool for ripping gullible people of their hard earned money.

Reference: Oga. Sorry to burst your bubble but they were correct too. The wages of sin is death. Death means death. Both physical and spiritual.

In summary:On earth your physicality is prominent because of the disconnection from God but there is nothing I know on earth that isn't aging, decaying and dying. If God was playing with words, adam and eve will be alive today, so will the dinosaurs, so will my grand-parents. Infact I won't be aging. Don't mistaken existing for living. The spiritual precedes the physical. Jesus cursed the fig tree but it was only the next day the disciples noticed it was withered. Someone spoke about storms. These are manifestations of a decaying, dying world.

i will let Chief Obadiah answer this, He will give you a better answer. They can never be 2 Truths sire. . Which side are you on? Is it Physical or Spiritual?

obadiah777: funny guy. dayummm you drive your wife to church from yaba to otta ogun state ? no church in yaba ?

That must be winners church sire. Bishop Oyedepo

obadiah777: very correct. no inbreeding allowed lol. tis in the levitical laws

These christians think God can change anyhow.. How can God allow imbreeding at 1st, He will now change His mouth and say 'Imbreeding was good before, but now it is bad.?' This folks got alot of jokes. They misunderstand every single thing in the bible. Even the tithes part.

simpleseyi: I am a Muslim but I schooled in Catholic Primary and Secondary school, so, Bible Studies was a compulsory subject. I did quite well in Bible Studies throughout my primary and Secondary school because It was easy for me to cram the english Bible with all the interesting stories which I understand because I have been cramming the Arabic Quran which I did not understand then .

I have a thousand and one questions which the Bible and the Quran have not been able to answer. So, I just worship God in the little way I can and try as much as possible to do good. I go to the mosque to pray and also drive my wife to church (Yaba, Lagos to Otta, Ogun State) and since there is no waiting room at the church, it means I have to be inside the church. I can't wait at the car park because demons cast out from the church go through the car park to the main road.

obadiah777: i bet they ran when they encountered the light lmao. the world is shrouded in darkness brethren. everyone with his or her own doctrine of demons.

isaiah 60 vs 2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.

Reference: That was not God's will. Go back and check the sequence of things. We were empowered to multiply by a blessing - the proclamation of the Word. After the fall communication was lost and the ability to multiply came through conjugation, 'intimacy'.

So if people have to marry their sisters to keep the human race going what did you want God to do. That was not His plan. It was not His plan that man will fail so badly.

MicroBox: @OP why cant you respect what millions of people all over the world worship. Antonio lavey did more than you are doing now but what was his last words on his sick bed??
Guy you are better off as a freethinker than being a satanist. How would you preach satanism for me to understand while you are busy saying rubbish about other people's GOD.
A poor satanist like you. The real satanist are very rich, not illuminati but real satanist always reach and famous;Read about Dehinde Fernandez, they are real satanist father of illuminati. Compare yourself with chris brown,lady gaga and tell me how much you have made in life.
Friend! Just do kalmatul sha'ada and become free and save.
Believe in Allah and die a muslim.
I fear for you not for the torment of the grave but that of the hell fire.
Just say this after me;-
Lahillaha illalahu sayidinah Muhammad Rasulullahi(abduhu wa rasulluhu S.A.W)
Choose a Good name for yourself and visit nearest mosque for proper orientation.

tell me you are kidding me? i will rather worship Sango or Ifa. If you pray in english wont allah hear your prayers? Must i do the Muhammad Rasulullahi stuff