₦airaland Forum

TallNigerian:
While this might be accurate, does this justify the military invasion?

Yes and no. That's why it's a dilemma and seemingly beyond the compression of simple minded Nigerians.

The military is justified because the minister is seen to be corrupt and possibly a drug addict and/or a drunkard henc3 his irrational and brutish attitude, it's clear that he, in collaboration the PRESIDENT are thieves. The military sees all these things and have acted accordingly.
However the military, by right, the Minister was supposed to have unfettered access to all lands within his jurisdiction of authority but nobody trusts him to act rationally.

TONYE001:
Well,.I'm not defending Gambo. I don't trust any of them. My only point is that it's in the news that Wike allegedly takes plots from Person A to give to Person B. This antecedent already makes his actions easily suspicious.

Furthermore, Wike was entirely wrong to have gone there himself to enforce the law. It's not in his place. Tinubu, though the president, cannot go on the roads to enforce any law himself. Wike was poorly advised, and his actions have now backfired. He should have gotten the court and the police involved. If he had a court order, this wouldn't have happened.

Importantly, he was told to hold on, that the case was being investigated.

My point here is not to define the legal status of the land. My point is that Wike's approach was horrible. He had no right to verbally assault the officer. He acted like a bully. Thankfully, he was unable to intimidate the officer.

The courts should determine whether Gambo is the true owner of the land or not. It's entirely non of my business. All of them for that Abuja...na power them dey pursue, they certainly won't mind exploiting common Nigerians to attain that power. It's a dog-eat-dog world down there. In any Abuja story concerning the elite, there's hardly an innocent player. They are all full of one dirt or the other.

Wike attempted to drag Nigerians to his side when he was saying "so, you want to shoot all of us...." That's what they do! They bring us into the loop to gather sympathy. Things like...."you want to kill us....you cannot intimidate Nigerians...etc.." He should realize that the Abuja incident was between HIM and Gambo, it Nigerians vs Gambo.

Let him go and carry his cross.

You are right. Wike has been outta pocket. He accuse Buratai of giving an order to harras and possibly kill him, but did the same thing to Fubara.
So you can that the man is a liar and a deceiver and a manipulator. Imagine him postulating that the military are trying to intimidate him, meanwhile he intimidates others with impunity, so him pretending to be the victim is an attempt at deceiving and manipulating and that's why I insist he is a substance abuser and/or an alcoholic... look at his videos from 2016 and downwards, as a young man he was gentle and soft spoken but as he got older, he is supposed to be more gentle and calm but see how he maciated, has become more brash and behaves like a motor park tout.

TONYE001:
What's your source that the land isn't properly documented?

Wike's words?

It's been in the news time and again that Wike would withdraw plots from Mr. A, and give the same to his cronies. I can provide links to reports noting this.

So, can Wike's word be trusted?

The way you are talking, as if I am alpha and omega and all knowing. If you have evidence to the contrary please enlighten me, I don't know everything.

davillian:
im just saying Tinubu has the power over the armed forces...
he can wake up one morning and ask all services chiefs to go sambisa and the would obay without questions

Oh yea.

runningriot:
In a dramatic shift of tune over an ugly theatrics that unfolded by the FCT minister and a young officer Yerima, the FCT minister considered by many as megalomaniac as well who sees himself as a demigod makes a U-Turn after the face off with a military officer Yerima over a land dispute that belongs to a former Chief of Naval staff in Abuja with the altercation leading to the minister who is considered to be power drunk calling the young officer a fool. His insensitive and inordinate choice of words was laced with public anger and condemnation as many sees it as condescending as well unlike of a public servant. Equally, after Wike received a strong backlash and reprehensive condemnation by the general public and many top serving and retired military personnel as well as notable national stakeholders, in a move many considered is an attempt to safe his face as well be defensive and dismissive after he was seriously nuked with different artilleries by the public he argued that in the context of the heated argument and tensed tension he never meant the officer is a fool because he knows the rule of law and has respect for both serving and retired officers for their honest sacrifice in defending the country through internal and external aggression. Despite his appraisal and regrettable turned arbitrarily, the general public through the cyber space didn't see it as honest speech tailored to be genuine because many make mockery of him. The embattled minister even confessed that the general public, media and the cyber space is not friendly to him but he doesn't care because he was only doing the right thing to proof nobody is above the law no matter your present or past held position.

Below is the link to the video. Copy it and search it through Facebook to watch the full highlights of the video.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/2357521021340530/

He should also wear a human face and understand leadership is about understanding the plight of the masses and trying to make their lives easier. If you must demolish a property, atleast pay a reasonable amount in settlement and compensation.
Wike has been forming hard man, this is an opportunity to change his ways.

TONYE001:
He wouldn't lie?

Like, a NIGERIAN politician wouldn't lie?

You really trust him, despite his antecedents.

I don't trust him but what he said is publicly verifiable, by now someone would have refuted him.
But if he is lying hmmm
That will be a shameful low for a man of his position. And Gambo too hasn't refuted him

davillian:
im just saying how it
the president has the power

I understand you and I have followed Tinubu from the time he was governor, the same way he ruthlessly and ferociously fought against GEJ is how he fought Abacha but if you have noticed, despite his money, his karma always doubles back on him quickly, money was supposed to help prolong karma.
And he is presently trying to please the military and they know he is fragile and he is fragile because he handed over the security of the nation to shettima, the terrorist in chief. Plus the doesn't have the backing of Nigerians.

cr7lomo:
Even Tinubu no fit talk this thing wey u de post .... u need to understand the system so that it will not backfire.... if this isn't handled property....it could lead to overthrow of this government... Nigeria is already a lawless country due to the excessive disregard of the law....see them quoting law....but when the same court gives judgement that don't favour them , they disregard it..... removing a duky elected governor from office bythe president, wasn't that another lawless act by government...but una de expect soldiers wey de se all these to abide law

Soldiers are seeing all these things and that is why they reacted to wike in that manner.

TallNigerian:
I can see that the mere hate for Wike is beclouding the sound judgment of most people.

It's Wike today, when it's ordinary Nigerians vs Military, we will be here to cheer the military on.

You all can continue to cut your noses to spite your faces. However, one thing is sure; you have emboldened the men in uniform to continue to act with impunity even in a democratic dispensation.

Wike has been nothing but irrational and inhumane. Demolishing and revoking and reallocating people's lands is nothing short of wickedness and in this hard economy haba

xareal:
so you think Peter obi would have gone to confront armed soldiers with armed policemen abi? Any small thing Peter obi, and with the coup rumors flying about you expect tinubu to piss of the milliary any further by disciplining a soldier following orders from his superior, be like say una nor really like that man

I don't think you understand what it's means to be the people's choice.

orisa37:
GAMBO AND HIS MESSENGER YERIMA DON'T HAVE THE MONOPOLY OF MADNESS.
WIKE MUST DERANK GAMBO AND HIS MESSENGER YERIMA TO PRIVATE AND TINUBU WILL APPROVE IT AND STOP THEIR ENTITLEMENTS. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO TEACH THEM THAT WE ARE IN A DEMOCRACY AND NOT IN MILITARY DICTATORSHIP.

Tinubu wasn't chosen by Nigerians so therefore the masses are not on his side. At this point the military can even take over and the masses will jubilate but can the military be trusted? They have been fighting boko haram, a rag tag terrorist group for more than 20yrs! Do you know that Nigerian soldiers are buying military boots from the army at the theater?
If he was the popular candidate of the masses, the military wouldn't dare try any coup.

orisa37:
MR. PRESIDENT AND WIKE. THE CINC AND HIS OFFICIAL AGENT IN FCT WILL DERANK GAMBO AND HIS MESSENGER YERIMA TO PRIVATE.

Yea on a good day that's how it's supposed to be. Look at Trump, his supporters are ready to die for him and they are the majority.
Tinubus foundation is weak. He is not the choice of Nigerians.

xtivin:
After a failed coup attempt just weeks ago you expect a democratically elected government not to trends with caution with the military?

So now you expect us to be living under fear or what?
If Nigerians craze I tell you both politicians and military will understand better. Nigerians might be simple minded and slow to act but if you force them hmm

Jamie248:
Tinubu doesn't have the balls

You can imagine that.

xareal:
so you think Peter obi would have gone to confront armed soldiers with armed policemen abi? Any small thing Peter obi, and with the coup rumors flying about you expect tinubu to piss of the milliary any further by disciplining a soldier following orders from his superior, be like say una nor really like that man

The fact remains that wike is wicked and Tinubu has so far enabled him. I am sure but I think a wise and humble man would have made a difference. Gambo only sent soldiers to protect his property because wike has been acting irrationally so far.

GOFRONT:
These Military general are more concerned about Real Estates and Mansions than the National security which is their sole assignment.......An average Nigerian Army general wants to own an eatate land for himself alone.

Well, they all own Nigeria. Tinubu, Wike, Generals.

Las las na ordinary Nigerians go suffer when these three Elephants fight...........

I just dey observe frm this Angle.

I rather have Tinubu forever than any military general

xareal:
so you think Peter obi would have gone to confront armed soldiers with armed policemen abi? Any small thing Peter obi, and with the coup rumors flying about you expect tinubu to piss of the milliary any further by disciplining a soldier following orders from his superior, be like say una nor really like that man

Tinubu walking on egg shells

TONYE001:
What's your source that the land isn't properly documented?

Wike's words?

It's been in the news time and again that Wike would withdraw plots from Mr. A, and give the same to his cronies. I can provide links to reports noting this.

So, can Wike's word be trusted?

He wouldn't lie. I believe him on the fact that it was for parks and recreation

Gotocourt:
Wike just revoked the land and gave a plot to the new INEC Chairman. Ex CNS is out for a fight, abi you know know

Not true. Fake news. Check your sources

Slytiger:
Falana: Wike acted within his rights to inspect disputed land — military officers overstepped their authority


https://www.thecable.ng/falana-wike-acted-within-his-rights-to-inspect-disputed-land-military-officers-overstepped-their-authority/

Nlfpmod

Nigerians are TOO SIMPLE minded to comprehend complicated issues like this.

To be realistic, at this point I don't blame simple minded Nigerians for supporting Gambo and Yerima because Wike and a host of other Civilian heads of government and its agencies have grossly abused and misused state authority and Mr. President remained silent. Look at the caliber of people he appointed, grossly corrupt and evil men like Matawale, Akpabio, Wike, Ribadu etc
In Nigeria, if you are clean and incorruptible, you will be persecuted. We are ruled by the worst of us. Yes, they appoint the most corrupt and heartless men so that they can blackmail them when they step out of line. The leadership class is completely out of touch with the plight of the common man. Imagine Wike carrying bulldozer around demolishing people's properties in this hard economy. Wike deserves to be jailed for crimes against humanity. Demolishing and revoking people's land and then reallocating them to friends and family. There is no way that Tinubu is not aware of what Wike is doing. These are extremely EVIL MEN. They are supposed to be jailed.

On the other hand, what Yerima and Gambo have done is going to set a dangerous precedence. The land in question is not properly documented and should be revoked and demolished by right. But here you have the military bullying a civilian authority. By right, Wike was supposed to be allowed unfettered access to that land but because of his wicked and bitter heart, Nigerians are supporting the military. Imagine if it was Peter Obi that was Minister of FCT, a man who is widely loved by the masses, humble and soft spoken and is known to be gentle and have the best interest of the masses at heart, he would have followed due process and Gambo and Yarima wouldn't have challenged him. Wike was disgraced because everyone knows he is a corrupt and evil man, look at what he did to Fubara and Tinubu supported him. This administration is gradually losing legitimacy in the eyes of Nigerians and if this Overreach by the Military is allowed to stand it will set a very dangerous precedence because now a military man can buy land anywhere and you dare not revoke and/or demolish that property if it was illegally acquired or situated in a green area, etc.
It will get to a point when even the sitting president of the republic will be subservient to the Military. It can even lead to coup against the President. Bear in mind that the Nigerian military is the most corrupt in Africa. Don't expect anything good from them, don't expect them to be like Ibrahim Traore.

I don't support anyone, I don't belong to any party. Infact I hate all of you equally irrespective of you tribe or religion. I don't care what happens to Nigeria, but we must educate you simple minded people in that country. Let's all be guided.

davillian:
only tinunbu has that power to override the orders given to that young officer without following protocols...

I hope you know that this is a dangerous precedence?
Military men will start abusing power
You dare not demolish any property belonging to Military men. They will abuse this loop hole.

Gadafii:
Wike think say na fubara

Y'all all now chanting "in a democraty"

Where una dey when fubara was kicked out of office for six months without due process, WI make Wike hold that L for a while jare

Wike deserved everything he got in that encounter.

gift2xl:
It's still democracy that has made them above some law's and has no respect for citizens that speaks the truth or want to protest.

If his mentally civilize, he should have spoken to the man that gave the Soldier the order instead of coming there himself.

His not mentally cordinated in dealings to whom respect is due to. He believes he can have his way's.

80% of politicians are drug abusers including the minister.
It is clear as day.

Assuming he was a man of integrity and wisdom and
comported himself with respect, the soldier Boy wouldn't have had the guts to prevent from gaining access to the land. At some point during the fracas, he even allowed the soldier Boy to handle his personal phone. His uncouth attitude is responsible for the embarrassment he faced. It wad a pathetic situation.
Many of our so called leaders and elders are under the curse of Eternal immaturity. They lack the wisdom that comes with their age.

ambale:
Not with what we have seen politicians do in time past with people's land

These guys are chronic land grabbers, Infact many of their properties are always product of grab

Even the law says he who comes to equity must come with clean hands, the FCT minister was accused not long ago of forcefully acquiring peoples land, the president shielded him from investigation, so na that one we go trust say he dey do the right thing?

Correct.

ElSudani:
To say Nigeria is dysfunctional is an understatement. Ignorant citizens are also defending madness because they don't like the minister or for whatever reason.
I am beginning to think the country will never work.

I am glad you understand what where am coming from. Two world leaders with superior information and knowledge have called for the division of nigeria. Nigeria has found herself in an impossible situation.
All her institutions are corrupt and dysfunctional.

RealityKings1:
Are you going to give him another job if you take away his job? The way you people reason is funny.
Resolving is key to everything, not escalating.

His superior officer should be sanctioned for putting the jboy in a precarious situation.

In a democracy, a minister is a civilian who, along with elected officials, holds political authority over the military, which is a professional force that operates under the government's control. Ministers are responsible for policy and are accountable to the people, while the military is subordinate to civilian leadership and is meant to be a tool of the state, enforcing laws and defending the nation. This relationship ensures that the military does not become a political power, safeguarding against authoritarianism and prioritizing civilian control over the use of force.

In the event of use of Force, in the Wike vs 3 star General fracas, it was evident that the security guarding Wike would have over powered and if it came to it, killed all the military officers at the scene.

You must understand also that amongst Wike security details includes ex soldiers and special forces personnel. Yerima and his boss over stepped. Let the law take its full course.

THE REALITY:
Nigeria is a dysfunctional state at this moment, we all witnessed the last election and how it was rigged and stolen, so basically, the man leading us is not the people's choice. So basically, the Minister of the FCT is not the people's choice, infact the government can be said to be illegitimate.
The dysfunction of the Nigerian state also affects the mind of Nigerians. They cannot seem to process complex event and take a righteous stand. It is true that Wike is either an alcoholic or a drug addict at this point... a functional drug addict. If you watch his mannerisms from 2016 and compare to now you will see what I mean. Albeit, like Regina Daniels and many politicians and celebrities, they are classed as functional drug addicts because Despite their addiction they still contribute meaningfully to society and do not cause any disturbance or commit illegality.
When I first watched the video, I was shocked. My first impression was that the Military was totally wrong. They have no business guarding private property and prevent a sitting Minister from accessing the land considering the fact that they had no papers for the land in question. Nigerians are supporting this illegality based on the past antecedents of the man Wike, which is understandable considering that Nigerians are mostly simple minded people.
But people with conscience know that there is a big problem. This administration has lost all all respect both locally and internationally, that was the essence of my last post. The President has been holed up somewhere for somewhere for the past few days since the threat from President Trump, despite the threat to to protect Christians, President Tinubu has proven that he is powerless over the security of Nigeria. Since the pronouncements of Trump, the terrorists have killed Nigerians everyday till date. The terrorists also responded to Trump insisting that there is Jihad and Christian genocide ongoing in Nigeria. I trust Nigerians, the recent event of wike vs military will completely eclipse the issue of Christian genocide. You can even see Tinubu has come of hiding 😂😂.

At the end of the day, Nigeria is dysfunctional and only a revolution will set things right or are Nigerians doomed to die as slaves?

Now more than ever you can sense that the British government regrets leaving power to the Fulani people.
You see, unlike the French, the British are not petty, they don't care how we elect our leaders, they don't care about the electoral process, infact they don't care if there's a genocide or anything of the sorts.
They only care about a stable economy and protection of their interests in the Oil sector, Banking and Finance and General economic stability.
Since the inception of democracy in Nigeria, the Fulani have been obedient and anyone who decides to be patriotic is quickly removed, either killed or indirectly impeached.
Anyone who becomes president must protect British interests and follow up on the policy of keeping Nigeria mediocre and backward. This is true until Buhari came to power but prior to Buhari we had
Abdulsalam Abubakar: served the British very well.
Olusegun Obasanjo: served well but tried to be patriotic. The massacre of a community in Bayelsa was to protect British oil interests.
Yar'adua: Tried to be patriotic and solve Nigeria's problems. He was eliminated.
Goodluck Jonathan: Tried to be patriotic but was naive to the antics of the British.
Mohammadu Buhari: He promised to serve the British but after two years in office, he decided to become patriotic and was eliminated. But the cabal didn't stop, they kept on setting up key infrastructure to ensure that Nigeria grows.

Mohammadu Buhari, a Fulani was a major problem. Trying to live up to the hype of Mr. INTEGRITY and also trying to correct past mistakes. He did the unthinkable. Attempting to make Nigeria to become Energy and Food Self sufficient.
1. Attempting to make Nigeria food self sufficient by encouraging local food production through loans and outright banning importation of major food stuffs.
2. Attempting to make Nigeria Energy sufficient by doubling as CinC and NNPC boss. He deviced plans to render British oil interests powerless by partnering with trusted private sector companies namely; Dangote

He succeeded to an extent especially in the area of energy sufficiency in the area of Energy self sufficiency with the inauguration of Dangote Refinery right before he left office. This Refinery was supposed to be a great game changer because all we had to was get the raw material and refine the oil. This was supposed to reduce petrol price drastically to somewhere around N300-500 per litre or less without subsidy. There are some countries with lower prices but they all seem to have but unfortunately, they either have problems with the Wallstreet Mafia Cartel
Libya: Invaded
Angola: Subsidy
Algeria: Subsidy
Sudan: War
Ethiopia: Subsidy
Niger:: War
NIGERIA: Battling Terrorism, etc

Contrary to popular belief, Tinubu doesn't want Dangote to refine oil, not by his own interest but because of the British and its oil interests. In public, Tinubu and Dangote shower praise on each other while there is a silent and indirect battle behind closed doors.
Any attempt to frustrate Dangote will lead to a great problems. They have a private army on ground to ensure that Nigeria doesn't frustrate the refinery e.g PENGASSAN. Remember when Dangote and associates laid some some damning allegations concerning Malta refinery, etc.

This attempt at self sufficiency along with other patriotic acts has drawn the anger of the British.
The fact that Tinubu is now truly seeing the benefits of Dangote Refinery and is not doing anything to shut it down means Tinubu has to be removed and/or indirectly impeached. But meanwhile, Tinubu got the his mandate through snatching it and running away with it, he also has past criminal records which makes him susceptible to blackmail.

With this seeming betrayal, the British are now convinced that they made mistake putting Fulani in charge, they would rather have an intelligent and purpose driven tribe. The plan is either an igbo president or the re-emergence of Biafra because all the major natural resources are in the area of Biafra. The Fulani, after many years of loyalty to the British are now somewhat fed up of being slaves and taking orders. The British priviously didn't like the Igbos because they challenged them, didn't bend over, difficult to control but with the seeming betrayal from the Once trusted Fulani, the British has no choice but to face their fears.