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thorpido:
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You guys know how to dribble!

Believe the word of God.

Kindly show me in John 10 where Jesus claimed to be the Almighty God.

Kingsnairaland:
Revelation 6:9-11:

“And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

And they cried with a loud voice saying,
How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season,

until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.”


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Look at the verse
number one
the souls physical body has been slain yet they are still talking as only a soul that means they are in their soul body

Number two
The souls body that were taking was given cloth like a robe

So can some thing that don't have shape be given a cloth to wear?
Answer is NO

Therefore

You can see the souls have the shape of a human that why they were given new clothes to wear


Number three
they were told to rest like I told you they rest after the earth physical body dies

The souls are under the altar which is in spiritual realm in heaven because John went to heaven when Jesus was showing this thing to him

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Does the soul have a physical body as highlighted in bold?

You claimed that the soul neither has a physical nor a spiritual body, so how come they are in the spiritual realm?

Where does the Bible makes mention of a 'soul body' without a spiritual or physical body?


Don't you see that you are a confused teacher?

A soul without spiritual body is crying and given a robe in heaven, does that make any sense to you?

Kingsnairaland:
Revelation 6:9-11 -


John tells us as much: “I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain.
” Not only are these the souls of those who have died, these are the souls of those who have been killed; these are the souls of those who have died a violent death; these are the souls of those who have been stoned,

This shows each person's have a soul that is identifiable

I did not say soul body or spirit body is physical

I told you it looks like bright light
That looks like you.


Bible say the spirit is the candle of the lord which he uses to search all the part of man

You claimed that the soul neither has a physical body nor spiritual body, how were the souls In Revelation crying without a body?


Where does the Bible teach that the soul without a physical body or spiritual body looks like bright light?

Kingsnairaland:
The soul rest in the spiritual realm just like those that were in the altar of heaven in the bible

How can the soul rest in the spiritual realm without a spiritual body? Kindly quote a verse.

Kindly quote where the bible teaches that the soul has a 'soul body' without a physical body and a spiritual body.

Where does the Bible teach that the soul has a shape of a human without a physical body and a spiritual body?

Explain how the soul speaks without a physical body and a spiritual body?

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Kingsnairaland:
I told you many times the soul has a soul body
The Spirit have it's own body too both
Looks like a bright light that is un seen with physical eyes

That bright light of the soul and spirit looks just like you it has all your shape it does not have sex organ but it has everything your physical body has apart from internal organs and sex organ and Anus etc

Kindly quote where the bible teaches that the soul has a 'soul body' without a physical body and a spiritual body.

Where does the Bible teach that the soul has a shape of a human without a physical body and a spiritual body?

The Spirit does not enter the soul rather both sometimes attach to each other and they stay in a state of rest if the body dies

I have shown you how the soul speaks in the bible
And I have shown you how the spirit speaks in the bible

Since the soul does not have a physical body and a spiritual body, what realm does the soul rest?

Explain how the soul speaks without a physical body and a spiritual body?

Kingsnairaland:
The soul and spirit can't do any physical things without the physical body

But the soul can speak in the spiritual realm without the physical body because it main functions is to speak

The Spirit can give life to soul to speak in the spiritual realm because it main function is to give life

Apart from that they can not do anything under the sun

The things in the soul can be seen when the person acts it out

Or you can detect it before the person acts by looking into their eyes to see what they are planning to do

You claimed that the soul neither has a physical nor spiritual body. So what does the soul use in speaking?

How can the soul exist in the spiritual realm without a spiritual body?

How can the spirit enter a soul without a body?

What body does the soul have?

How many seperate parts does Jesus say that man have in mark 12:30?

Kingsnairaland:
Hiding what inside soul means example

Some one can want to steal from you but they will act nice so you can not detect what is in their soul

But if You see a thief that you don't know in the road you will immediately know he wants to steal from any one because of his behaviour and the way he looks around because he doesn't have time to pretend

But if your friends what to steal from you he can hide it and come to you as a good person that why I said people can hide the bad things in their soul

Another example it common things to know the things in the soul reflects through the eye and the eye also guides the face expression

Now go to the mirror pretend that you are angry with some thing

Next you will see as your eye change to anger your face expression will automatically change to match what your eye is showing

Dude you can't see the soul or spirit unless God opens your inner eyes the inner eyes is also called eyes of understanding

That inner eye can see angels and spirit and many spiritual beings

So what you are telling me now is that without the physical body, the things in the soul cannot be seen? If yes, can the soul commit Anger, sin, fornication, theft, love, kindness, plans and many things without the physical body?

What body does the soul have? You claimed that the soul neither has a physical body nor a spiritual body.

How many seperate parts does Jesus say that man have in mark 12:30?

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thorpido:
Indeed he never confused His listeners because the Jews knew what He meant.

In the very next verse;
The Jews again picked up rocks to stone him. Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from my Father. For which of these are you trying to stone me?” The Jews answered him, “We are not stoning you for a good work but for blasphemy. The Jews who heard Him(and they were religious scholars)knew what he meant and that was why they accused Him of blasphemy.He called Himself God.They knew what He meant when He said 'I and My Father are One'.

The Jews mistakenly thought that Jesus meant that he was the Almighty God by saying that he and the Father are one and that he is the son of God.

Below is John 10:36

King James Bible
Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Kingsnairaland:
Dude you are not seeing the soul rather you are seeing what is inside the soul

I list the things that can be inside the soul bible even list them... You can train yourself to be able to detect it when you see it in peoples eyes

Anger, sin, fornication, theft, love, kindness, plans, many things

Examples if your friend or child or people you know are hunger you can see it in their face or eyes you can even see anger in your own eyes you can see envy too in your own eyes


It does not mean you can't hide it or it does not mean others can't hide it some can hide what is in their souls when you look at their eyes

Even mouth can say what is in the soul too

You claim that sin, fornication and others are in the soul, you are also saying that hunger can be seen in the eyes and face, is the eyes and face now the soul?

How can I not see the soul but see what is inside the soul, How does that make any sense?
If you can't see the soul, how do you know that the things that you are seeing is actually inside the soul?


You claimed that looking into someone's eyes will make one see what is inside the soul of another person and you are also saying that a person can hide what is inside his or her soul even after looking at the person's eyes, are you not confused?

What body does the soul have?

How many seperate parts does Jesus say that man have in mark 12:30?

Kingsnairaland:
I told you many times the soul lives in the head
The spirit lives in heart and in the blood.

Every thing in the head is been controlled by the soul

That is why if you want to know that is inside the soul of a human being you look into their eyes

Look at world leaders they always look into the eyes of their friends so they can know what is inside their souls

The eye reveals what is in your soul in your head

So when you look into a man's eyes, you see the things in his soul? If yes, what are the things that you see?
Were you not the one that said that souls cannot be seen with the physical eye?

What body does the soul have?

Proverbs 20:27
The spirit of a man is the lamp of the LORD, searching out his inmost being


Did you not read where Bible said the spirit is the candlrlight of God almighty

God shows he even uses your spirit light to see what is inside all your body including what is in your soul and your Your inner being which is the three part of man

Where is soul mentioned in proverbs 20:27 and says that it is separate from the body?

So how many seperate parts does a man have according to Mark 12:30?

Kingsnairaland:
https://www.nairaland.com/8281626/what-did-jesus-mean-when/7#133360898

Just because Bible said love God with your soul and mind don't mean it four
Because Bible also said walk in the spirit does that mean walk is also number five
Bible also said some people can seal their consciousness does that meant it also number six
Absolute NO

So read link properly to see where each fit into

If you read this place above link properly you will see mind is inside the soul.... Nothing like four part



And I already told you soul body and spirit body are like a bright light...

God shows
soul light is function is to speak
while
the spirit light function is to give life to both the soul and the physical body



Glory

Oga Jesus clearly stated in Luke 11:34 that the 'eye' is the lamp that produces light in the body. Does that mean that soul, spirit and eyes have the same body?

King James Bible
The light of the body is the eye: therefore
when thine eye is single, thy whole body
also is full of light, but when thine eye is
evil, thy body also is full of darkness


What body does the soul have since you said the soul neither has a physical body nor spiritual body?

So how many seperate parts did Jesus say that a man has in mark 12:30?

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Kingsnairaland:
Soul and spirit body is almost
like eternal bright light
That looks like you

Luke 11

35 Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness.

36 If thy whole body therefore be full of light, having no part dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a candle doth give thee light.



Proverbs 20:27 ►

New International Version
The human spirit is the lamp
of the LORD that sheds
light on one’s inmost being.

King James Bible
The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly.


Note
When moses meet God his face was shining very bright

When Paul meet Jesus his eyes was blinded by how bright God spirit bright light is

So soul and spirit looks like an eternal bright light which can't be seen physical unless God opens your spiritual eyes

Oga Luke 11:34 clearly shows that the 'eye' is the lamp of the body that produces light. Are you saying that the lamp that produces light is the soul and spirit?

Was Moses 'face' that was shining separate from his body and became the spirit and soul?

Oga what body does the soul have? You said the soul neither has a physical body nor spiritual body? So what is the name of the body?

So are you saying that Jesus did not say that man is divided into four seperate parts in mark 12:30?

Kingsnairaland:
All go to lake of fire

The physical body that dies before will be given a new physical body called spiritual body

And those who are alive when Jesus comes their own physical body will be transformed into the new spiritual body

Then those who don't believe in Jesus will be thrown into the lake of fire

That new body called spiritual body will contain your old soul and spirit

Oga..........what kind of body does the soul have since you say that a soul neither has a physical body nor spiritual body?

So are you saying that Jesus did not say that man is divided into four seperate parts in mark 12:30?

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Kingsnairaland:
What your saying holds no water soul was mentioned in the bible over 500 times it is a unique part of man

Is the Hebrew word for Soul present in Genesis 35:18?

Kingsnairaland:
THE SOUL HAVING THREE PARTS

The Mind Being a Part of the Soul
The soul is of three parts—
the mind,
the will,
and the emotion.

This is clearly and definitely proved by the Word of God.
Proverbs 2:10 gives us the spiritual ground to prove that the mind is a part of the soul.

This verse says, “Wisdom will enter your heart, / And knowledge will be pleasant to your soul.” Because knowledge is a matter of the mind, this proves that the mind is a part of the soul.

Proverbs 19:21 and 24:14
also indicate that knowledge and wisdom are related to the soul. In addition,

Psalm 139:14 says,
“My soul knows it well.” Since to know is a matter of the mind, this also proves that the mind must be a part of the soul.

Psalm 13:2
speaks of bearing concern in the soul.
This concern must be something considered in the mind.

Lamentations 3:20 says,
“My soul remembers them well,” indicating that the soul can remember things.
By these verses we can be clear that the mind as the organ to know, to consider, and to remember is a part of the soul.

The Will Being a Part of the Soul
The second part of the soul is the will. Job 7:15 says, “My soul would choose,” and 6:7 says, “My soul refuses.” To choose and to refuse are both decisions and functions of the will

The Emotion Being a Part of the Soul
The emotion comprises many things, including love, hatred, joy, and grief. Song of Songs 1:7 and Psalm 42:1 show us that to love is a function of the soul. This proves that within the soul there is the organ, the function, of the emotion. Second Samuel 5:8, Psalm 107:18, and Ezekiel 36:5 show us that hating, loathing, and despising are also in the soul.

So all these verses that you quoted above, can the soul perform all that without the physical or spiritual body?

What body does the soul have?

So are you saying that Jesus did not say that man is divided into four seperate parts in mark 12:30?

Kingsnairaland:
Genesis 35:18

New King James Version
And so it was, as her soul was departing (for she died), that she called his name Ben-Oni; but his father called him Benjamin

Ask your self why those your version was putting
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It to show you the translation was not understood by them

You can see the real difference below and above

Oga use your bible hub to check the Hebrew word for Soul and check if the Hebrew word for Soul appears In Genesis 35:18. If the Hebrew word for Soul appears in that verse, then the king James version is correct to add Soul to that verse.