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AbuTwins:
Open your thread!

So a thread must be opened before I hear the solutions of the Koran to problems facing mankind today?

AbuTwins:
Good day to you too!
There are many solutions that Islam brought to solve the teeming problems in the world today!
To learn that you have to Create your thread on that and don't derail the thread here!

I would like to learn about the solutions from you.

Mr AbuTwins, good day to you.
What solution does the Koran give to the problems that humans all over the world are facing today?

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paxonel:
John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

What exactly is grace? That is the question.

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paxonel:
This is not in anyway to condone sin.

But as Christians, we all know that unbelievers go to hellfire when they die in their sin because no Grace for them.
Another gospel of Grace teaches that a believer will also go to hellfire when he or she die in their sin. The question now is, where is then the Grace?

It's like these people love contradiction so much

What exactly is this grace that you are referring to?

Sand2022:
JW have the view that there is only one group God can use. They are of the view that God cannot use two groups or organization at a time.

They teach that any who want to worship God acceptably must join them, since they see themselves as that one true religion. There decision hangs on some scriptures, one of which is Eph 4:4,5

"One body there is, and one spirit, just as you were called to the one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism."

Some witnesses will point to the fact that this place mentions " one" for each of the items, one body, one faith, one baptism, one lord etc. That is true, but are we to understand this to mean that there has to be only one Church or one christian institution? No, any more than saying that there must be one baptism, nor one Lord nor even one body. There are more than one type of baptism, Jesus is not the only Lord, we have fleshly bodies, spiritual bodies etc.

One body refers to the body of Christ. In that body are different gifts, ministries, and different personalities.

The JWs feel that faith in that Eph 4 refers to one organization. The faith there is a form of worship based on faith in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus. It doesn't mean one organization. Any true christian organization based on ransom sacrifice of Jesus is in that one faith, one body. The head or the Governing Authority in this body is Christ.

But has God not used only one channel all through the centuries? When God used the Israelites, did He use another channel?

We should first, ask, what does the JW mean by channel? In their mind, what they mean is one organization ruled by few elders in the Headquarters. They will point to people God used like the Israelites. They see them as the only ones God used at the time before the christian congregation came on board. Any who wanted to worship Jehovah, as they say, will go through the Israelites.

This view is understandable since God called the Israelites His special people. He gave them the laws, priesthood, leaders. In fact they were God's house.

However, that never meant that worship of God was only acceptable only if it went through Israel. Why?

The worship of God has been through a set up altar. This method of worship is open for any who wish to worship God. This is equally true even when the God appointed priests were available.

Cain and Abel individually made altars where they sacrificed to the same God. Both Noah and Abraham had theirs as well. As family heads, they were like Priests to their own families.

Melchizedek was the first communal priest the bible mentioned. He was a priest and a king of Salem. Obviously, there must have been people serving God in Salem where he officiated. But that didn't mean that Abraham can no longer serve God through the altar if he wants to.

What about the time of the Israelites? Did all that stop? No. The Governing Body will have you think so. But many seem to forget that job and the community he lived in worshiped God. That community was contemporaneous to the Israelites. How do we know that the community worshiped God?

Job 31 verses 26-28 Job stated that if he has ever worshiped the sun or moon, that such error would be punished by the judges.

This shows that the community was God fearing. Yet the Israelites were also worshiping the SAME God where they were.

It is true that Israel's way of worshiping the same God was quite different. They had the tabernacle, priestly class, festive seasons etc, but that didn't make other worship unacceptable. The Uz community can't replicate the system of worship in Israel without God approving it. Even Melchizedek mode of operation in the Salem community won't be the same in Israel. We also know that Naaman would also have had his own little way in which he worshiped God after Elijah gave him a go ahead order. (2kings 5:19) Even Elijah himself has an altar he worshiped God in Israel (1kings 19:10) while those in Judah did their's at the temple in Jerusalem.

Coming to the first century. While Jesus had his disciples who follow his directions, John had his with slight differences in their practices. In fact after the wrongly believed Governing body in Jerusalem was established, Apolos who knew nothing about the so called Governing body was aglowed with the spirit as he preached. Meaning that he and others who worshiped God have His Spirit even though they know nothing about the "Giverning body" in jerusalem. (To see that there were no Governing Body in Jerusalem, see https://www.nairaland.com/7926922/ministry-jws-part-5-governing)

The Ethiopian Eunuch who traveled back to his land would also have slightly different way he would be worshiping his God there as a Christian. We wouldn't assume he would follow exactly what is at 1cor 14.

Jehovah's witnesses would say there is just one faith. Yes, one faith based on the ransom sacrifice of Jesus. That's the meaning, but what about one body? Why aren't they mentioning that? We know that this one body refers to Anointed Christians, not the other sheep of JWs. There is actually one body of anointed Christians, but the witnesses don't Believe that. What about one hope? Which is heavenly hope. The witnesses say no, there is two hopes. I plead that you witnesses start studying the bible for yourselves. This worship monopoly you're living in is not healthy.

True christians doesn't see themselves as an organization with one Governing body. They see themselves as a body of Christ with Christ as the head of that Body. That is the unifying factor, Christ, not Governing body.

So are you saying that God is using all groups of churches today with their contradictory teachings?

Divinelove4ever:
The Lord is the Supreme Being
The Maker of the universe
And all things in it.
Lord of all lords, King of all kings.
Lord, I bow before You.

What is the name of the Supreme being?

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