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Kobojunkie:
I see that you are desperate to make an issue of Rock-Paper-scissors where there is none, aren't you?

A better approach would be to point out where God explicitly said casting of lots is sin. All this here is meaningless attempt at throwing stones at Jesus Christ who never said it is against God to cast lots.

Telling me that casting lots every day to decide if it will be oats or rice pudding in the morning is of ifa na brain damage abeg! If I choose rice today, does that mean oats was just unlucky, you tell me.

Maynman:
You’re right.

MightySparrow:
The Op get certain things wrong. Casting lot or throwing fleece was not strange to Judaism. Gideon used it. Urim and Thumim may have been used same way.

However, the apostles didn't understand that things have changed. Holy Spirit was now the driver not fleece or casting of lots.

Kobojunkie:
LOL... so you never had any upstanding before now what it truly means to cast lot, even though the passages you quoted clearly inform you of the intention behind such exercise?.

Steep:
So football officials that cast lots to determine which team starts with the ball are playing ifa?

SIRTee15:
Are u not the one that wrote that Paul claimed he saw the resurrected Jesus.
Now u claiming Paul was part of the script. Was he invented too? Who invented him? Vespasian, Constantine or Josephus.

This comedy from u jokers is beyond fantasy, it's turning to delusion. U guys cannot even gather your thought process and make a coherent claim.

Who invented Jesus and what decade was he invented.
Let's start from there and then move up.

SIRTee15:
Mr Man gather your thoughts and arrange your story in chronological order.
So who invented Jesus. It's now Paul and no longer Vespasian or Roman emperor as your video claim.

Maybe we should go back to the basics and build from there.
Who invented Jesus and what decade was he invented.
Pls no long story, just simple short answers with factual evidence of necessary.
It's like u and the video u brought here are confusing each other.

My question is simple. Who invented Jesus and what decade was he invented?

SIRTee15:
By the 2nd century, Christianity was well established. So u calling 4th century as the year Jesus Christ emerged shows u late to the game.
The issue we dissecting here is the 1st century. Go and read about Christianity in the 1st century and get enlightened.

SIRTee15:
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SIRTee15:
Went through the video. Same baseless and nonsense conspiracy theories as usual.
Emperor Vespesian created Christianity and imaginary passive Messiah called Jesus. The gospels were written by Josephus. Passive Messiah was created to make the rebellious Jews submissive to Roman authority....blablabla

The Jewish Roman war was btw 66 to 70 AD. The gospel of Mark was already in circulation prior to the war. Most of Paul letters were already in circulation and read aloud in churches.

The new testament mentioned real and well known figures of that time that had contact with Jesus and the apostles. These include Ananias the high priest, Caiaphas, Nicodemus, Gamaliel, Herod Antipas, Herod Agrippa, Governors Felix and Festus.

So Josephus forged a fictional book claiming the main characters are real and met these people
I mentioned above. Yet nobody questioned when Herod or Gamaliel met imaginary Jesus or Paul.

U guys must think people living in the 1st century must be so dumb that someone can sell a fictional Messiah that walked around Galilee and Judea; and the people would swallow it hook, line and sinker.
They had no reasoning capacity to question when and where did this imaginary Messiah emerge from.

Let me ask u a simple question? Have u heard of the apostolic fathers. Who are they and what's thier role in the early church.

vdestro:
Someone should be given the nobel prize for accomplishment if they can get a mad vdestro to see that he is mad.

J3susFr3ak:
What year were you born? And that year you were born is based on whose real life and birth again? Even the year your country got its independence is based on the Life of Christ. Wiser people have existed before you...deep scholars have studied longer and harder than you have...atheists have argued and gotten tired trying to dismiss the historical and supernatural Reality of who Jesus is.
You cannot fight Truth and Reality and win. Your logic and arguments are all flawed.

MaxInDHouse:
See this verse:
Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3
Go and find any Religion on this planet that's able to fulfil it then come back to me and i will trash Jesus the day you're able to do so until then Jesus remains the world's most wonderful counselor of all time! Isaiah 9:6
Farewell!

MaxInDHouse:
This is the truth but i wonder why it's used just to blindfold MaxInDHouse from seeing the light.

According to the same Jesus you were told was invented this is what Jesus said:

"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." John 17:3

This is the opening words of Jesus in PRAYER to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in fact he said:


I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. John 17:6

When talking about the true God to one of his female disciples Jesus said:

Jesus saith unto her, "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." John 20:17

So if Jesus said all these about the God of Israel how come MaxInDHouse is so blinded by Judaists to think Jesus is fake always thinking you can present him in a bad light?

Made2Last:
Jesus is the Greek pronunciation of the name 'Yeshua' or 'Joshua'

SIRTee15:


Sometimes SIRTee15 just have to indulge them to make them see SIRTee15 own folly

vdestro:
Are you not seeing that vdestro is not ok at all? Do you not see that vdestro is so mad?

Do you not see how mad vdestro has became, (exactly what mad people do) when you asked vdestro if he is ok?

SIRTee15:
Bring whatever evidence they sprouting here. I'm in no mood for some concocted evidence based on inconsequential evidence that's bears no weight when examined empirically.

This is the compilation of your dead sea Scrolls. Over 99@% was compiled b4 Jesus was born.


Now answer my question. Which is the true Torah according to the dead sea Scrolls.
The Samaritan Torah or the Jewish Torah.

SIRTee15:
Books written in 300bc will contain the life of someone who was born 300 yrs later? Is SIRTee15 u ok at all?

Does the Samaritan have the true Torah? Yes or no. If there's is true. What then shall we call the Torah u guys are parading?

SIRTee15:
Keep your wack conspiracy YouTube video to yourself. Not interested in works of nutjobs.

Stop lying, the dead sea Scrolls has nothing to do with Jesus. They were mainly old testament manuscript.

Read about Messianic Jews and stop embarrassing yourself.
1.6 American Jews identify as Christians. 17% of russian Jews identify as Christians.
There are over 350 thousand messianic Jews who believes jesus is the Messiah- 20 thousand of them live in Israel.
That's why your crazy Benjamin netanyahu is running up and down like a shameless dictator because he knows the truth.

All your balderdash on European abandoning Christianity makes no sense. It wasn't their religion in the first place. There was christianity in Africa b4 it got to Europe.


Finally back to the dead sea Scrolls. Did those ancient manuscripts validate the Samaritan Torah as the true Torah. Yes or No

SIRTee15:
Wannabe Jew, see him laying claim to achievement of another race. Are u a Jew or a black man from sub Sahara Africa.
Besides are u aware there are Jews who have left Judaism, atheist Jews and there are Jews who are Christians. So what exactly is your paint.
Your assertion of Judaism being the true religion is bogus and another empty rhetoric.
How did u come to learn of it, did any of your fathers worship God of Abraham,Isaac or Jacob. Did they know Moses.
But u have the gut to condemn those who chose to worship another Abrahamic religion different from yours.
If u think u guys have the true TORAH, ask the Samaritans and they will tell u that u are wrong.
Samaritans believe their own Torah is the true book given to Moses.
And u know the most interesting thing. The dead sea Scrolls shows that the Samaritan's Torah may actually be the right one.

guy u need to read more b4 coming here to embarrass yourself.

SIRTee15:

This is another one for u
Psalm 110

The Lord says to my Lord:

“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet.”

2 The Lord will extend your mighty scepter from Zion, saying,
“Rule in the midst of your enemies!”
3 Your troops will be willing
on your day of battle.
Arrayed in holy splendor,
your young men will come to you
like dew from the morning’s womb.

4 The Lord has sworn
and will not change his mind:
“You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek.”

SIRTee15 dumb head that should be in Sunday school learning basic bible principles would come here with kindergarten knowledge to debate Christian theology.

Get ready my 500 dollars provided u have one in the first place.

And as for your statement about following white man's religion.
U only have a leg to stand on if u are not using anything invented by the white man that replaced what your ancestors were using.

Otherwise SIRTee15 is only making a fool of himself because SIRTee15 is insulting his own own intellect.

vdestro:
I am always surprised when vdestro devils insult first and when i sane people insult back, vdestro start crying.

You think The Law of do to others does not apply to vdestro mad devils?

vdestro fellow mad people stay in the dustbin areas of the market, vdestro is there and ranting vdestro madness.

vdestro:
Atheists Stupid gaaan! Chai

Maynman:
Religion chai