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plaetton:
Speaking for myself, I do not attack religion, any religion at all.
Now pay attention.
What I and many atheists do here on this public forum is mock and shame st.u.pid ideas, st.u.pi.d conducts being advertised by the mental slaves of religion.
The Abrahamic religions have been a terrible unending tragedy for Africa. This is fact.

The mental havoc, dumbing down of intelligence and IQ, and the exploitation of the masses by the rapacious self-appointed religious elite are self-evident and not should be ignored by anyone who cares about the future of the black race.

We do not attack people on account of their religious beliefs.
No.
we attack silly, childish and often dangerous ideas being peddled by religious fraudsters.

On the other hand, I find it amusing that every single hour of every single day, there are tens of thousands of religious priests mounting pulpits and TV screens to propagate falsehoods, abuse people of different faiths, curse and abuse unbelievers. But whenever an atheist anywhere raises his/her voice to repudiate any of the many lies and contradictions of religion, then the atheist is called the bigot or the militant atheist.
This shows the deep hypocrisy that is an inherent part of religious faith.

Anyone, believer or unbeliever, who comes in public forum to advance an idea, then that person or idea stands to be challenged, repudiated or mocked.
If your beliefs or worldview cannot hold up to scrutiny or critical analysis, then kindly keep it out of the public forum

It is really that simple.

In this I find little sense, no one wants your education, in fact, haven't seen a critical atheist so far, just a dozen of angry mofos going round in circles. In life, there are days of laughter, days to cry, days to sing, days to keep mute, there are bitter and there are sweet. We understand all this only when we take life the way it is and strife for the best under the guidance of the Supreme One, who has promised us a place of rest after our travails on earth. These sensation of laughter and sadness is what makes us man, those that died in Nepal have peace, it is us that feel sad for them, life goes on. We learn in everything that happens to us, a tragedy such as this shouldn't be an exception for those wise enough to think.

kay1one2:
Some of them cannot even impregnate a woman! They are here looking for an excuse for their own incompetencies!

I tell you, no greater Foöl than an atheist.

Interesting

You're a man

PDP is going into extinction.

Good luck to those posted to Borno.

This bank palaver.

biafransoul:
I wonder when you people will get it into your moronic heads that Igbos don't care or give a hoot about your presidency. WE ARE NOT ONE and we want out with our cousins in the Lower Niger. Thesooner you guys realize it and plan ahead for your future, the better for you guys. Igbo president ko, Yoruba prostitute ni. If you like fly okorosa's pics here till morrow, we don't care cos Gej we know.

Landlocked Biafra

johnydon22:
Genesis was not even written by Moses, moses is still not considered a historical figure.. . . in fact even the moses fable also has its own share of Sumerian influence. . the story of moses set adrift on a river was borrowed from the story of Sagon King of Akkad. .

How is the plight of Moses different from what Oba of Lagos promised Igbo if they failed to vote APC? What if he still had autonomous power? The Bible is just too applicable.

Watch this video (haven't been able to) http://www.patternsofevidence.com/en/

johnydon22:
True in what aspect, borrowing the mesopotamian/babylonian myth?

or stipulating the earth was less than 10,000 years when carbon dating shows it to be up to 4billion?

Or creating day and night before the sun? How can a planet be created 4days independent of it's parent star whose gravity holds it?

How can day and night be created four days before the sun which causes day and night?

Or placing stars in the firmament (clouds) . . lmao if you think these true then i must say it will be a very huge disgrace to you as a 21st century homo sapien. . In the age of information, Ignorance is a choice.

Yeshua gazed at them and he said to them, “This is
impossible with the children of men, but everything is
possible with God.”

johnydon22:
We are talking ancient mythological antiquities, am not here to convert anybody or convince anyone.

I only argue based on the facts, i was once a christian so i understand how emotionally attached one can be to ones religion.

It still doesnt call for him to stop using the word "God" or turn atheistic, after all. All the creation accounts were purely disproven when the earth carbon dated to be 4billion years old, it never stopped people from being believers.

The worst part is that we are Africans, i keep on wondering why people choose to believe the jewish mythology as universal truth and disbelief their OWN very mythology.. Lol...

The earth is surely older than 6000 years (on this I disagree with creationists)
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

MOSES WAS REFERRING TO THE BEGINNING OF CREATION, WHEN GOD CREATED THE UNIVERSE
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness
was upon the face of the deep.
THE EARTH WHEN IT WAS CREATED WAS DARK AND WITHOUT LIFE

And the Spirit of God
moved upon the face of the waters.

THIS WAS THE GAP BECAUSE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THIS HAPPENED IMMEDIATELY AFTER CREATION OF UNIVERSE. ALSO IF THE LORD FORMED LIFE ON THIS WATER PLANET IN SIX DAYS, OTHERS SHOULD SPAN MORE.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

THIS WAS THE FIRST THING CREATED ON THE FOREORDAINED PLANET. GOD LOVES BASE THINGS, HE DIDN'T CHOOSE JUPITER

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet
out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth
have been from of old, from everlasting.

Also if God really created earth in 6 days and after that, called a geologist, can he date it 6 days.

johnydon22:
enuma elish is the babylonian account written in the late 12century BC. .it predates the genesis account by atleast a thousand years before the jewish account.

Babylonian civilization started even before the emergence of jewish civilization in the canaanite society.

the enuma elish was written in cuneiform clay tablets, one of the oldest wing material ever used.

The genesis account was written during the isreali exile into babylonia

Comparative mythology provides historical and cross-cultural perspectives
for Jewish mythology . Both sources behind the Genesis creation narrative
borrowed themes from Mesopotamian mythology, but adapted them to
their belief in one God , [5] establishing a monotheistic creation in
opposition to the polytheistic creation myth of ancient Israel's neighbors.
[16]
Genesis 1–11 as a whole is imbued with Mesopotamian myths. [17]
Genesis 1 bears both striking differences from and striking similarities to
Babylon's national creation myth, the Enuma Elish . On the side of
similarities, both begin from a stage of chaotic waters before anything is
created, in both a fixed dome-shaped "firmament" divides these waters
from the habitable Earth, and both conclude with the creation of a human
called "man" and the building of a temple for the god (in Genesis 1, this
temple is the entire cosmos). [18] On the side of contrasts, Genesis 1 is
uncompromisingly monotheistic , it makes no attempt to account for the
origins of God , and there is no trace of the resistance to the reduction of
chaos to order (Gk. theomachy , lit. "God-fighting", all of which mark the
Mesopotamian creation accounts. [5] It also bears similarities to the Baal
Cycle of Israel's neighbor, Ugarit . [citation needed ]
The Enuma Elish has also left traces on Genesis 2. Both begin with a
series of statements of what did not exist at the moment when creation
began; the Enuma Elish has a spring (in the sea) as the point where
creation begins, paralleling the spring (on the land – Genesis 2 is notable
for being a "dry" creation story) in Genesis 2:6 that "watered the whole
face of the ground"; in both myths, Yahweh/the gods first create a man to
serve him/them, then animals and vegetation. At the same time, and as
with Genesis 1, the Jewish version has drastically changed its Babylonian
model: Eve, for example, seems to fill the role of a mother goddess when, in
Genesis 4:1, she says that she has "created a man with Yahweh", but she
is not a divine being like her Babylonian counterpart. [19]
Genesis 2 has close parallels with a second Mesopotamian myth, the
Atra-Hasis epic – parallels that in fact extend throughout Genesis 2–11,
from the Creation to the Flood and its aftermath. The two share numerous
plot-details (e.g. the divine garden and the role of the first man in the
garden, the creation of the man from a mixture of earth and divine
substance, the chance of immortality, etc.), and have a similar overall
theme: the gradual clarification of man's relationship with God(s) and
animals. [13] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_creation_narrative


The Enûma Eliš has about a thousand lines and is recorded in Old
Babylonian on seven clay tablets , each holding between 115 and 170 lines
of Sumero-Akkadian cuneiform script . Most of Tablet V has never been
recovered but, aside from this lacuna , the text is almost complete. A
duplicate copy of Tablet V has been found in Sultantepe, ancient Huzirina,
near the modern town of Şanlıurfa in Turkey .


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enuma_Elish

meanwhile i wonder the need for quoting out of context biblical verses in a different argument, u have to go learn how to argue...

Like I said, Gen is not subject to Moses alone.