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ifeness:You mean a dead man is conscious?! Wonderful! |
ifeness:This consciousness must be invisible (Spirit) and must have existed outside time. Can't we call HIM God? Is it possible HE is our creator? |
ifeness:Then it means a Parent consciousness infinite in all attributes might have existed from beginless time? |
ifeness:That consciousness is self existent? |
ifeness:Consciousness is the quality or state of awareness, or, of being aware of an external object or something within oneself. |
ifeness:What created consciousness? |
nerodenero:Nigeria and religion |
Good. At least she has done her bit just to serve as a good role model. |
Ahmed0336:The same hand used to type his employment letter is going to type his sack letter. |
tosyne2much:Just a boot crushing a lady . |
Justfollowit:This is what the Glorious Qur'an (May To Allah Only Be Praise And Honour) had to say: Sahih International : Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand. |
tosyne2much:Is it possible for a mod to remove your profile pic? |
tosyne2much:Is that why you removed it? |
funlord:Those girls are really jobless and always off point. Except for the purpose of a chat, any discussion is a waste of your manly time. P.S. Who removed my profile pic? I'll surely get another, a badder one. ![]() |
tosyne2much:2 hot slaps and returned one?! That's preposterous. Personally I don't fight, but I love to bully. |
STPEACE: So true |
Money is good |
If you can't say something good, say nothing |
Story |
@ johnydon22 -I can use the Bible to preach heliocentric and geocentric model. Therefore like I said, Bible is not involved in this argument. - Let's leave the reason we aren't feeling rotation. - Yes, I can see the light, but there will be on the torch a point where the light will have the highest intensity, indicating the source of light. - I think Gravity should order from the smallest to largest, why is Pluto behind Jupiter? If the gravity is strong enough to hold the Jupiter, why is it not strong enough to de-orbit the Mercury? - If it is uniform speed, where did moon get its 'extra' motion since it should move in whichever direction the earth moves due to 'gravity'? This actually supports geocentric model, since the moon needs no energy of its own, it just falls around the earth. -I don't think formulas are needed here. Have you ever gotten down in a moving car before? Friction doesn't depend on the size of the object or the force it exacts. All that is needed is for the tyre to touch the ground and a mighty crash occurs. - Have you forgotten that moon is 1/4 the size of earth? And is motion is independent to earth? How the hell won't it block the rays from sun everyday? -Yes, I do see it everyday, but for thick cloud cover, which determines how bright and visible moon will be. ~We have time zones because of the movement of moon and sun. ~ The obliquity of the ecliptic and the solar eccentric (a slight shift from the center of the Earth of the center of the Sun's path around the Earth). Imagine the "fixed stars" as being points of light fixed to a bowl that rotates around the Earth on a daily basis. That's how the ancients thought of the stars. Plot the position of the Sun at noon every day with respect to this bowl of stars you'll see a pattern arise: The Sun moves with respect to the fixed stars. This is the ecliptic. The planets also appear to more or less follow the ecliptic. The ancients knew this very well. It was a part of many of their religions. The way this was explained from an ancient geocentric point of view is that the rings on which the Sun and planets rotated moved north and south, making the Sun and planets appear to move along the ecliptic. This nicely explains the longer days in summer, short days in winter. What it doesn't explain is why spring and summer are longer than are fall and winter in the northern hemisphere. This too was well known to the ancients. Explaining this phenomenon is where the solar eccentric comes into play. The the Sun and planets moved in circles called deferents. (The planets needed epicycles, too.) The center of a deferent, the eccentric, is slightly offset from the center of the Earth in Ptolemy's model. The Sun appears to move uniformly from the perspective of the deferent, which means it doesn't appear to move uniformly from the perspective of the Earth. Ptolemy explicitly took the non- uniform lengths of the seasons into account when he established the Sun's deferent and eccentric. ~Cloud cover ~Due to different orbits of sun an moon, they tend to meet at some time, which causes eclipse, howbeit for a short time. We have cloud movement, just like we have movement of water vapor from a pot. ~Ocean tides are caused by the gravitational attraction of moon and sun. ~ The same gravity that holds sun in place in heliocentric model. "When sitting in a rapidly-moving railway carriage, let a spring-gun be fired forward, or in the direction in which the train is moving. Again, let the same gun be fired, but in the opposite direction; and it will be found that the ball or other projectile will always go farther in the first case than in the latter. If a person leaps backwards from a horse in full gallop, he cannot jump so great a distance as he can by jumping forward. Leaping from a moving sledge, coach, or other object, backwards or forwards, the same results are experienced. Many other practical cases could be cited to show that any body projected from another body in motion, does not exhibit the same behaviour as it does when projected from a body at rest. Nor are the results the same when projected in the same direction as that in which the body moves, as when projected in the opposite direction; because, in the former case, the projected body receives its momentum from the projectile force, plus that given to it by the moving body; and in the latter case, this momentum, minus that of the moving body. Hence it would be found that if the earth is moving rapidly from west to east, a cannon fired in a due easterly direction would send a ball to a greater distance than it would if fired in a due westerly direction. But the most experienced artillerymen - many of whom have had great practice, both at home and abroad, in almost every latitude - have declared that no difference whatever is observable. That in charging and pointing their guns, no difference in the working is ever required. Gunners in war ships have noticed a considerable difference in the results of their firing from guns at the bow, when sailing rapidly towards the object fired at, and when firing from guns placed at the stern while sailing away from the object: and in both cases the results are different to those observed when firing from a ship at perfect rest. These details of practical experience are utterly incompatible with the supposition of a revolving earth." -Samuel Rowbotham, "Zetetic Astronomy" Rilwayne001 plaetton |
Plaetton and jonydon22 join me in reading this interesting piece part 1 & 2 http://www.wildheretic.com/heliocentric-theory-is-wrong-pt1/ http://www.wildheretic.com/heliocentric-theory-is-wrong-pt2/ I'll reply as soon as I charge my phone. |
Rilwayne001:Quran |
johnydon22:I will answer this later, it will be difficult to answer without my android. |
Pr0ton: |
Rilwayne001:The alternate movement of sun and moon with independent lights. |
Rilwayne001:I know of this explanation, that's why I put something in the bracket, so move to others. Are you not a muslim http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-muslim-cleric-claims-the-earth-is-stationary-and-the-sun-rotates-around-it-10053516.html |
Rilwayne001:NSWE? “(God is) the one Who created the night, the day, the sun and the moon. Each one is travelling in an orbit with its own motion”(Sura 21: 33). I find it rather obvious from what this passage depicts that the day and night depends upon the orbit of the sun and moon. In other words, contrary to what Muslim apologists exclaim about the sun's galactic orbit, the passage appears rather to describe the sun and the moon in parallel orbits. It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon, nor can the Night outstrip the Day: Each (just) swims along in (its own) orbit (according to Law)(Sura 36: 40). |
DProDG:I need an answer. Like the first post shows, this is not on religious grounds, it is something troubling my head. |
Pr0ton:Whenever I wake up, all I see is sun and moon orbiting a static earth (geocentricism). They both have different orbital diameter. The sun appears in the morning and as its about to leave, the moon appears. This view solves all mysteries, but a lot of problems arise with heliocentricity. If the sun is static and earth orbiting, why am I not feeling the rotation (why is everything just perfect). If the sun is very large and static, how is it possible to see the sun above me? Why has the mecury not collapsed? How is it possible to throw a projectile on a moving earth? Why cant a plane stay in space and wait for the earth to move to its desired location? How is a jet able to land on a fast moving earth? Since the sun is static and very large, why is it that the moon doesn't come between the earth and sun everyday? Why is it that the moön does not lose its light everyday, since it will rotate at sometime and fall behind the earth? Tell me I wish to know. @ jonydon22 |
@ Pr0ton I created this boring thread because of you. Waiting for your reply.... Not everything has to be for/against |
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies.Isnot this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. |
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That's autonomous to me, who will check the mods


and a jet exerts an external force of energy working against gravity to ensure a stationary jet. . .