johnydon22: lol and you just shot yourself in the head with that link.. First the link clearly shows most slavery in the bible even sexual slavery.. a man selling his daughter to slavery and etc.. And you just finished yourself.
And again nowhere did the link stipulate that the bible ever said [size=20] Do not enslave anybody/ slavery is bad [/size] which has been the point my meme raised but you choose dabble into cheap defence and helped me castigate cheeky bible more..
from the link Exodus 21 a man can sell his daughter into slavery.. THE BIBLE FINDS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT..
Everybody please i recommend you read this link http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery Our dear misogynist gave us and see where the bible said [size=20] Do not enslave it is bad [/size] hahahahaha
At least you enjoyed the read? lol @ misogynist, just trying to shake off your frustration
Where is the sex slave? All I saw is slave with marriage contract.
"Philemon 1:10 I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds:1:11 Which in time past was to thee unprofitable, but now profitable to thee and to me:1:12 Whom I have sent again: thou therefore receive him, that is, mine own bowels:1:14 But without thy mind would I do nothing; that thy benefit should not be as it were of necessity, but willingly.1:13 Whom I would have retained with me, that in thy stead he might have ministered unto me in the bonds of the gospel:1:15 For perhaps he therefore departed for a season, that thou shouldest receive him for ever;1:16 Not now as a servant, but above a servant, a brother beloved, specially to me, but how much more unto thee, both in the flesh, and in the Lord?1:17 If thou count me therefore a partner, receive him as myself.1:18 If he hath wronged thee, or oweth thee ought, put that on mine account;1:19 I Paul have written it with mine own hand, I will repay it: albeit I do not say to thee how thou owest unto me even thine own self besides.1:20 Yea, brother, let me have joy of thee in the Lord: refresh my bowels in the Lord.1:21 Having confidence in thy obedience I wrote unto thee, knowing that thou wilt also do more than I say. "
"3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians"
10:42 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them.10:43 But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:10:44 And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all. Mark
johnydon22: Wooow i was looking really hard to see where it said [size=20] Do not own a slave or indulge in slavery[/size] But i couldn't see one. . You just posted about hebrew slaves. . . when the point we passed was No slavery . . . thanks for bringing that up bro, You just confirmed this pic.
Since you love Wikipedia, try reading this link from beginning till the end, it will surely quench your ignorance. Just finished reading it.... articulate, non partial, true, orderly and well written. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery
kay1one2: Sometimes when you talk I laugh at your own ignorance attempted to be covered up with vile language. You're very uneducated I give that to you. The origins of the evolutionary theory begin with one unique or wonder cell giving birth to all creation. Lemme give you an example, in your bone marrow exist pluripotent cells capable of giving rise to virtually any kind of cell in your body. That's where the idea of a bone marrow transplant comes from. Now those cells cannot produce plant or cow cells because both cells are intrinsically different from each other. Some small cells like hiv virus only contain one strand of ribonucleic acid not the double strand like humans; dna. These differences make it impossible for one cell to birth all. No fossil has been found linking dinosaurs to birds and that brings up the point "missing link"; a well known argument amongst scientists and evolutionists. You don't fall in any where that's why the term sounds strange to you. I study life for a living so I won't bother try bringing you up to my level. Just watch you fool around copying and pasting!
All he did when I presented evidence against evolution to him was to run away. The only difference evolution, big bang and abiogenesis have from a myth is that they are supported by ambitious pseudointellectual scientists.
"And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not."
johnydon22: Are u always like this I dont understand is closest to i dont hear? . . Did you study anything in English at all? You see ur life? If someone says i dont know, ur brain translates it to "god did it" are you theists always purposely dumb or just act like it? How is "I dont know " same thing as "god did it"? When someone says "I dont know" it mean he is saying that he doesnt know and that is it.. that he'd rather say "i dont know" than assume up a lie like you as theist who wil say "a god did it" when you lack knowledge about a phenomenon.
Just as always, he brings in childish assumptions into it, the more you do this the more you contradict ur comic book...
I bid you to stop lying for once in your life for ur bible crap and be honest for once ... Look at what someone is saying and is proud of it.
So saying "we heard a voice but did not understand" will be embarrassing to them? . .says who? . . Do u really have to conjure up a cheap lie? ..instead they say to paul "We do not hear the voice" Which voice? if u didnt hear the voice how would u know there was a voice or do you just snap and say "i dont hear a voice?" ...I marvel at ur thinking honestly
I thought I've solved the contradiction.
How can you attack theists and still claim to know nothing?"
johnydon22: Exactly because scientific studies improves with new observations and facts being unraveled and it always keeps improving, thats why its science ..STUDIES
I still wonder how you carried out your research on Bible and what gave you the impetus to call your creator 'insane'!
johnydon22: @bolded, my ignorance? On what please, evolution
Hahahahahahaha scientific studies myth Oh my goodness, education is murdered in Nigeria !!!
Please define Myth for me?
Define evolution?
then define science..
i.e- Please google it, help yourself with google and paste ur reply to me here
Y'all are beginning to loose ya sanity
Do you know how many modifications the ideas of Darwin went through and is still going through? If evolution were probable and testable, would it have gone through modifications? These people, the Darwins and Dawkins are of the 'mediocrity principle', who have the idea of 'nothing special about life' . They looked at life and thought of a beginning for it (though evolution does not deal with source of life), just like Jean-Baptiste Lamarck , they just bring up ideas and start dissecting complexity with ideas, instead of available fact till non intelligence is attained, explaining non intelligent process with intelligence and sophisticated equipment! What an oxymoron! As time builds on time, these opinions become a religion, become fact without being fact, because they have been indoctrinated to believing it as fact. Unfortunately, when evidence such as this is found, researchers tend not to trust their own eyes—instead of questioning the millions- of-years paradigm they’ll often throw doubt upon their own evidence! E.g. researcher Dr Mary Schweitzer famously recalls: “It was exactly like looking at a slice of modern bone. But, of course, I couldn’t believe it. I said to the lab technician: ‘The bones, after all, are 65 million years old. How could blood cells survive that long?’” Whether one interprets similarities as evidence for evolution from a common ancestor or evidence for the Designer depends on one’s presuppositions. The evolutionary idea of homology—inferring common descent from structure similarity—is an assumption by those who reject the Creator’s account in the Bible. http://creation.mobi/created-or-evolved http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA http://creation.mobi/exploding-the-big-bang http://creation.mobi/refuting-evolution-chapter-6-humans-images-of-god-or-advanced-apes http://earstohear.net/Kingdom/wisdom.html First read these for a start.
johnydon22: The lady is not omnipotent, thereby cannot heal the rapist kidney failure. if she could she would have without donating her kidney.
But your god as you always yap is omnipotent, yet demands blood sacrifice before forgiving sin? That is blood lust.
Cant he just go ahead and forgive you without asking for his son to be tortured and murdered?
It is barbaric, saddistic, blood lust insanity and nothing near love..
Bring a better example
Is there a need for that? Do you really have to blaspheme to pass your point?
" For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." 2 Corinthians 5:21 ►
God is like a driver of a bus with infinite seats and Jesus like a generous passenger, before starting the bus, Jesus paid our transport fare to God, some never had chance to enter the free bus (others didn't want to), some angrily exited to bus (because they were not destined for salvation), while some were lucky to be able to catch up with the bus. In the bus, some insisted on paying their fare, others accepted his gesture, but still saw the need to pay, but WE accepted his gesture and He paid for our transportation. We welcomed Him, He paid for our sins because He was able and capable. Jesus bare our pain, so we may be free from pain. Because of His generous action, we no longer needed to pay, we became free from debt and were qualified for the final destination- a place of eternal peace and Joy. Others were not able to pay because As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: He had no debt but became debt that we may be free from debt.
johnydon22: I always say "I do not know" when faced with the question of how life began, which i know is a very simple answer owing to the fact that its a subject that is still under heavy studies.
But sometimes when you see a naive misguided and poor analogy as this, you are compelled to take on the work of introducing young naive minds to what the studies really says. First evolution is a scientific theory and is not something to be adhered to or believed. Just like you dont adhere to the meaning of diffusion as defined by science, because study is not a belief system, bear that in mind.
Now let me help and define what a scientific theory means. Theory (science) A coherent statement or set of ideas that explains observed facts or phenomena, or which sets out the laws and principles of something known or observed; a hypothesis confirmed by observation, experiment etc. I want you to pay real attention to the words Observed facts and confirmed by observation and experiments. This goes a long way to show that theories are not assumptions or wishful thinkings but a way of explaining observed facts and it improves with more studies. First evolution does not explain how life began. (Thats a study under abiogensis, you may do well to learn more about it)
Evolution simply means change in heritable traits of biological populations over successive generations. and proposes that All life on Earth originated through common descent from a last universal ancestor that lived approximately 3.5–3.8 billion years ago. . So you need to shoot the person that gave you that idea that evolution deals with crawling of life from a single celled organism. Science 101 If you had ever read anything about evolution, you would have known that evolution is a slow process and takes millions of years. Meanwhile in todays world fishes have been observed to develop limbs as an adaptive feature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dMRt4NQb1Q
This line shows you have never opened a book on evolution before, all you take is what you hear from other incredibly ignorant folks and this is the result.
So homo erectus is the first evolutionary trend of man you know? still clinging to our primary school social studies ..lol
I have explained what evolution is, so no need saying more on that. Meanwhile the human evolutionary trend branched off from one common ancestor as other primates. And these are supported by archeological evidences. 1) Before 5 mya: In Africa, the ancestral lineage of humans and the chimpanzee lineage split. 2) Before 4 mya: The hominid Australopithecus anamensis walked around what is now Kenya on its hind legs. 3) >3 mya: Australopithecus afarensis (fossile evidence of this hominid “Lucy”) lived in Africa. And more hominids follows; australopithecus africanus, australopithecus robustus etc . 4) 2.5 mya: Some hominids made tools by chipping stones to form a cutting edge. There were perhaps four or more species of hominid living in Africa. 5) 2 mya: The first members of the Homo clade, with their relatively large brains, lived in Africa. 6) 1.5 mya: Hand axes were used. Also, hominids had spread out of Africa and into much of Asia and Europe. These hominids included the ancestors of Neanderthals ( Homo neanderthalensis) in Europe and Homo erectus in Asia. 7) 100,000 years ago: Human brains reached more or less the current range of sizes. Early Homo sapiens lived in Africa. At the same time, Homo neanderthalensis and Homo erectus lived in other parts of the Old World. : Human cultures produced cave paintings and body adornment, and constructed elaborate burials. Also, some groups of modern humans extended their range beyond Africa. 9) Other Homo species had gone extinct, leaving only modern humans, Homo sapiens , spread throughout the Old World... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution
Explanation above is a very basic one so as not to confuse naive minds like yours with the long list and names in human evolutionary trend of which little known to you homo erectus was a recent humanoid.
Where can i start treating such deceptive self induced ignorance. . Boy the difference between Human gene and chimps is less than 2% http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolutionary_genetics . . . These two primates share the same ancestory.
Tigers, lions and ordinary home cats have only 5% gene difference and that puts them all in the same family falidae. and i dont see you disputing that they are related but you dispute that of humans and other primates because it contradicts your mythological beliefs. . this is science boy.. deal with it. I wonder what you mean by beautifully arranged. if you mean complex, then how then do you believe a more complex idea as god can just pop out on it's own without a creator. following your argument another more complex creator should be responsible for your god then and so it goes on and on.
That you dont know how things came to be doesnt mean you should bring up something archaic and primitive as a god did it. because this kills your intellectual curiosity and retards your ability to learn how it really happened thereby keeping you in a state of self induced ignorance. Bringing up something like a god did it doesnt answer this question, it only postpones it because you have to assume your god did not need a beginning thereby failing in ur own argument.
And after all this naive misrepresent and misguided points you brought up without even reading about evolution, this is were it ends? . . . lmao..
A god that creates because he wants love and worship is Narcissistic and this is a character disorder. How would a perfect being demand love and worship. .
I beg you, please read about evolution before bringing up childish arguments up in nairaland that only makes someone close face in shame. .
If these stuff you brought out above is your refutation of evolution, please i recommend you to pick up a book on evolution, at least read it first so that you wouldn't open another thread on nairaland and give us another show of blatant ignorance.
And oh before i forget, the only way to disprove atheism is to prove ur god
All this for a myth!!! Have you ever visited www,creation.com ? It will quench your ignorance.
ifeness: That is the most scary part. The need for a sacrifices,human sacrifice to worsen it .
Imagine after raping a lady (just ensample), you apologize, and she forgives you, will you be happy with yourself? But after then, she visits you everyday and even dies donating her kidney, that her rapist may live. What great love is that! Will you ever think she hasn't forgiven you? Won't you feel foolish thinking she hasn't forgiven you? That's the love of God, though we hated Him, He loved and prayed for us. He came and felt what we feel as man feel, He preached love, but we gave Him the most brutal of death. He though being God showed his humility on the cross, he showed his patience and forbearance. He died so as to become mercy seat, so as to make our works perfect through faith in Him because the Father cannot behold iniquity. "Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;"
However, He is alive today, shouting at the top of His voice, that we should receive Him, so that He can forgive our sins and we reign together with Him as the Sons of God. What a Great Love!
What I've written above sounds to you as foolish and pseudointellectual, doesn't it? "For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe." ◄ 1 Corinthians 1:21 ►