johnydon22:


Don't take things too seriously, talk with less contempt and animosity. It is needless to drag your emotions into this rather trivial matter

I'm smoking me some hard joint ATM bro. Although ebuka is getting me riled with his usual falsehoods, but I'm still good. I just think there are people who doesn't deserve a polite response.

Davidgrey:
There is no practical evidence in "existence" that supports even the "remote" notion that your "god" exist, The bases of your reasoning is called delusion

Arguments with you are baseless and lack cogency

Heck! Debating with you is like haranguing a dog for barking!

I swear. This is why I use invectives on him. Dude is super deluded lying Christian. You'd be better off talking to the wall

spacetacular:


He used deism to offer an example of God outside religion as a foundation for his opener. And he is quite right.

What's your point? How does the existence of the lazy deist God proves Yahweh is anything than goat herders fiction?

Stupid Christians. They impose their mythologies on others, deny people their right to life on account of going against what their fairytale god want. These guys enact laws from their stu.pid books. Disturbs sane people at night with their loudspeaker. You can't enter a bus without getting deluged with their trite "repent or burn" message. You can't really expect the nonbelievers to be silent.

The other day they almost scraped CRK, this same Christians were crying persecution all over the web. But doesn't give a Bleep when they oppress atheists. You think it's perfectly fine for you to criticize the government's decision to scrap your precious mythology from our school, but it's suddenly becomes a crime when an atheist criticize your religion for it's hatred, intolerance and bigotry. Your hypocrisy is nauseating. Grow up son, there's nothing you can do bout it. Atheism is here to stay. As long as you guys keep rubbing your fairytale on our faces, we'd never stop. Go 'head and cry us a river. Nonsense!

We've not seen our comedy relief for some hours now. I've got this uncanny feeling our dear imbec.ile musta finally rented dalaman's brain and deactivated his account

NPComplete:


And this is ur idea of ad hominem? Lol

Atheists know u aren't bright.
Deists know u aren't bright.
Muslims know u aren't bright.
And now fellow Christians are beginning to confess u aren't bright. The bible says out of the mouth of 2 or 3 shall the truth be established.

Dude u just can't catch a break, can u?
Your major problem is that u aren't smart and, sadly, u aren't smart enough to know u aren't smart. So u blatantly butt into every thread thinking u are somehow making logical arguments

The dumbfuck got no shame. I mean a sane human would delete his moniker or law low for a while but our dear imbe.cile is all over the place calling people names.

Don't be surprised, he's gonna quote you and spew his usual nonsensical trite

If I were felix the imbe.cile I'd kill myself. Having a pea sized brain ain't no fun.

toneyb:
James Randi has 1million dollars(US) to give to anybody that can prove that his/her mystical capability is real.




We are in 2010 yet a large percentage of Nigerians still believe that the remains of virgins or little children can be turned into crispy cash . Some completely believe that human beings can turn into animals(owls, vultures, rats, ants) etc . Some dude was narrating a story to us about how some guys in Yenagoa (Bayelsa) turn into rats and vultures at night when embarking on their robbery mission. . I just kept quiet in other not to embarrass him. You hear stories like bullet proof juju, People disappearing and appearing in other places, turning into fish and swimming from one end of the sea to another. How do we ever develop and start building our own airplanes, submarines, super sonic fighter jets, space telescope, electron microscope, computers, cars etc when an average Nigerian truly believes in these myths and urban legends that keeps us in total darkness? .

Our Nigerian media is not helping matters at all, they give credibility to all these nonsense. You get to hear of such urban legends reported on nightly news broadcast. The Nigerian movie industry is a very BIG SHAME. It's always one mammy water story or the other. . "Blood money", "How Stella turned into a vulture". These beliefs are further entrenched with baseless and endless rumors all the time. From "Breathing tree", to "Singing chair". People go to school but are still unable to make any difference or contribute anything significant at all to the over all development of the society at large because these false beliefs we hold over shadows the laws of nature they learn in  their various schools. Nigerians(Africans) go to schools all over the world yet they are still unable to build their own technology, We attend some of the best schools in America, Europe and Asia with the people that live there, yet they are always moving ahead while we are always languishing in our continuous state of oblivion.

A white man sees something he does not really understand and tries to find natural explanations for it. The average Nigerian/African revels in the thoughts of mysterious and baseless myths and urban legends. We are always unable to do anything for ourselves because of obsolete beliefs in urban legends and myths that has become an integral part of our lives and "reality". Its almost a hopeless case.

He made this post 2010. And 7 years later, the situation is still the same, probably worse. Credulous people everywhere.

urheme:



God is called Yahweh in Greek, Jesus called him Elohim, Oghene in my own language....what is the fuse about

Answer is YES.....

next question

God is not called Yahweh in Greek. Is that what you were told in church? Lol

Yahweh was formerly the head god of the Canaanite pantheon but later became the Jewish god where he was promoted to the only creator of the cosmos and the true god.

This is god in Greek. θεός (theós)

We have biblical accounts of Yahweh demanding circumcision so what's up with you quoting and disagreeing

urheme:


God is God... He alone is God.... and let Him be God.

Judaism got it all wrong.........Christ came to Transform it and could not......hence Christianity is the result.

Christianity is different from Judaism.....both still exist today.......different doctrine though.

What is this na? I mean like seriously, what has this gotta do with my question.

I'm gonna drop it again.

Are you implying that Yahweh is not the Christian god?

A YES or a NO will suffice.

Hahahaha. He's pulled their normal out of context and allegory card

Abeg I'm done here jor, I was hoping to read something reasonable but it turned out to be another Jesus-is-god drivel from a pitiable Yahweh's servant. Lol

urheme:



Did Jesus Christ tell you to cut your Joystick

what you need is a circumcision of your heart and not the physical mutilation of your body part.

The Op is a Christian and Christianity started with Jesus Christ

Lol. You're contradicting the lying scum that opened this thread. I backed him to a corner, and he said Christianity started with Judaism. That's when I know how fu`cked he was.

Now to your own post. Are you implying that Yahweh is not the Christian god?

SmartyPants:


I have already explained this part. This show that you do not even understand either Judaism or Christianity. So i cannot debate with you from your position of ignorance.

You're an intellectually dishonest a$$hole. Why are you such a liar. You said Islam didn't start with humanity and that's one of the reasons that made you a Christian. But we know Christianity started 2000 years ago. Are you now implying Christianity and Judaism are a single religion?Aren't you a blissful idiot.

SmartyPants:

Did you see the bolded? Common sense should tell you that Jesus was not asking anyone to hate anyone but rather to prioritize discipleship over everything else.

Stop taking away from the Bible. This is Jesus word:

Whoever comes to me and doesn’t hate father and mother, spouse and children, and brothers and sisters—yes, even one’s own life— cannot be my disciple.


That's a condition for discipleship. According to him, you must hate your family including yourself before he can accept you. If that's not hate preach then you're stupid and dishonest. A dishonest buddy is the last thing I'd want for a discourse.
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SmartyPants:

Have you read the whole of Matt 5? It is in the context of secret sins of the heart such as lust and hate... in the context of hate is where it is stated that he who calls his brother fool is in danger of hell fire. the two bolded words are key. They establish that it is not absolutely wrong for us to use the word fool since to be in danger of something does not actually mean to already be in breach of the protection. As i matter of fact, i think you are actually a fool.

Lol. You're a terrible apologist. I still uphold my view about you being an indoctrinated Christian. I mean who overlooks overwhelming evidence like this about Jesus' hypocrisy if not a brainwashed idiot. I'm gonna post it once more.

Tells people not to call others fool (Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Matthew 5:22.)

And then he called his critics and disciples fools

(Ye fools and blind. Matthew 23:17, 19
Ye fools. Luke 11:40
O fools, and slow of heart to believe. Luke 24:25)

Jesus was an hypocrite. I didn't write the Bible.

SmartyPants:

This requires no explanation. Clearly you do not know what a bigot is. Jesus instructed His disciples to preach and teach and make disciples up to the ends of the earth.

LMAO. You are really an idiot.
Dictionary Bigot

\ˈbi-gət\

noun

:  a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person ;especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

Now he have Jesus saying this:

Do not turn your steps to pagan territory, and do not enter any Samaritan town. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel (Matt. 10:5-6)
And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him (Matt. 6:7–


Jesus was truly a bigot.

Go ahead and can cover your face in shame.

SmartyPants:

Go to school and meet any of your lecturers. Ask them to explain to you the difference between a servant and a slave.

Stop grasping at straws you slimy scum. My argument is 'Jesus didn't stopped slavery' did he? Can you show me a single verse where he condemned slavery. Jesus has been caught taking with slave masters references, and I posted you a similar verse. Stop being illogical and shut me up by showing a quote of Jesus criticism against slavery.

Besides, beating servants severely, is that a noble act?

SmartyPants:

Read the article again for better understanding of what i said and what it means. I'm not here to spoonfeed you.

Hehe. I busted his ass. He musta realized his idiocy and he's tryna withdraw.

SmartyPants:

I've made the point that we do not have sufficient neutral historical records from the period. But you can read the works of those writers for evidence of Christian persecution.

Lying punkass. You think I'm your gullible church member. Eh? You must think I don't know Tacitus to lie about his work. You're very good at making empty claims. I still exposed your falsehood once again. Your whole argument is based on the Bible. I asked for independent source and you started stuttering. You do realize any religion can make your arguments with their own scripture.

SmartyPants:

Meanwhile i am waiting for you to show me where Jesus asked His followers to kill anyone.

Unlike you the lying religious nuthead, I back my claims up.

"But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me." (Luke 19:27)


Do not go about lying to yourself that Christianity possess some truth which other religions lack, because from the little back and forth we had, you've been unable to show why Christianity is the true religion. You my friend was handed the Bible as a kid and you grew up to defend it. This will be my last reply to your delusional and nonsensical arguments. Cheers.

SmartyPants:


I said lots of Moslems convert to Christianity. Kindly point out the dishonesty and butress your assertion with legitimate sources.

Secondly, do be kind enough to show me where i made arguments from the Bible.

I'm lying because i do not kow tow to your infantile logic? You are a funny person.

The posts are all here for everyone to see, so it is your own credibility that is at stake.

However it is very likely i would have because that religion is too questionable.

This is a lie. It's not very likely, in fact there's a 1.2 percent chance for you to be a Christian if your parents were Muslims in Yemen.

The truth remains your Christian faith is a result of the indoctrination you had in your formative years. I have not seen a logical or rational reason from you that showed otherwise. All your arguments can be applied to other religions so you my friend are a shameless liar.

Edit your thread title to, "Christianity: the religion I was exposed to in my early years"

SmartyPants:


1. If you had read the article you would not say this. Is it too much to ask that you read before you begin to comment wildly? Christianity started with Judaism. It is not a separate religion but is the worship of the same God in a new disposition, brought about by the death of Jesus.

A typical brainwashed lying Christian. Your earlier post and the thread specifically mentioned Christianity, why on fuckery earth do you bring in Judaism. You laid claim that Christianity is superior to Islam because Islam has a founder and beginning, then I revealed your idiocy by showing you Christianity equally got a founder and beginning, and now you're jumping on Judaism. Are you no longer a Christian? Suddenly a Jew? You really are confused or is that your way of covering up your folly?

SmartyPants:

2. Jesus never preached hate. Show me the scripture where Jesus preached hate and bigotry.... I am patiently waiting on you. Jesus never condoned slavery either! And he never ever ever approved killing anyone. Show me the scripture... you are displaying your ignorance on a massive scale.

This is hate.
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children,and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. (Luke 14:26)

Hypocrisy.
Tells people not to call others fool (Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Matthew 5:22.) And then he called his critics and disciples fools (Ye fools and blind. Matthew 23:17, 19
Ye fools. Luke 11:40
O fools, and slow of heart to believe. Luke 24:25)

A bigot.
Do not turn your steps to pagan territory, and do not enter any Samaritan town. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel (Matt. 10:5-6)

And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him (Matt. 6:7–

Did he condemned slavery?
That servant who knew his master’s will but didn’t prepare for it or act on it will be beaten severely. The one who didn’t know the master’s will but who did things deserving punishment will be beaten only a little. Much will be demanded from everyone who has been given much, and from the one who has been entrusted with much, even more will be asked. (Luke 12:47‭-‬48 CEB)

SmartyPants:

3. I was making a comparison of the teachings on religions, not using Jesus as a reference. Think!

"Christianity preaches Jesus while Islam follows rules."

How does this make your religion superior. Jesus a son of god is a biblical claim, is there any evidence to support this. You keep proving me right, you're just some indoctrinated Christian.

SmartyPants:

4. Historical records from the time are not detailed, and you would not expect them to be. Yet writers of that time did make mention to Christians being persecuted. Look up the writings of Suetonius and Tacitus in connection with this.

Stop hiding behind Tacitus or Suetonius. Quote any of their works where they wrote about the apostles being martyred due to their refusal to deny Jesus. It's always easy to make claims but adducing evidence is the difficult part.

Martinez19:
Excuse me, Oxford is the most popular. People are used to it. Why don't you research. When it comes to defining words and giving their alternate meanings, Oxford is no match for the dictionary app. Test it yourself. I have used both.

Human beings like you and me authored dictionaries and sometimes they makes mistakes. Dictionary are also slow in updates. You'll have to wait long for a new version to come out. This is why an open source web based lexicon like wiktionary is preferred over Oxford or Merriam Webster.

I know the dictionary you're talking about, as a matter of fact I have over 6 different dictionaries including Oxford on my phone but that wiktionary based app trumps em all. It has more words than a normal dictionary, and its definitions has more depth. It also receives faster updates since it's open for modifications to user. It's a sister project from the owners of Wikipedia.

hopefulLandlord:


those are exceptions though

we all know overwhelming majority that are born in a particular religion live and die as its adherent

That's dishonesty from his end. The way he's about the Bible shows he'd be another raghead had it been he was born in a strong Muslim environment like Yemen.

Arguments from the Bible or any holy book is a sign of indoctrination. I don't expect our lying OP to nod to this.

SmartyPants:


Then you certainly did not read what i said at all. Nothing in my argument is based on scripture. I summarize for your sake:

1. Existence from the beginning of time.

Islam cannot claim to have existed from the beginning of humanity since it can point to a founder who was born at some point much later in time.

What the f'u.ck are you saying dude. This is outrightly silly. Christianity started 2000 years ago.

SmartyPants:

2. Main proponent must be a perfect example, relevant in all ages.

Islam has as its main proponent, a man who did things that would be considered wrong today. He married a child, and took his son's wife. He also took more wives than the four Moslems are permitted, and told his followers it was permitted for only him.

Another nonsense. Jesus preached hate and bigotry. Jesus did not condemn slavery. He was a hypocrite. He also approved killing others for Yahweh. I can list you 20 reason why like Mohammed, Jesus was a flawed man

SmartyPants:

3. Must provide a link to God that surpasses a set of rules

Islam only offers rules. Christianity preaches Jesus Himself, as the pathway to God.

There he goes again. Mentioning Jesus. It doesn't amount to anything.

SmartyPants:

4. Evidence of witnesses

No other religion has had its witnesses so persecuted, and so willing to suffer persecution for what they believed in. Those who lived with Jesus was so convinced that they were willing to die. Even Mohammed himself was unsure of himself and when he was about to die, he had to ask his followers to pray for him.

Absolute poppycock. Other religions has martyrs. But somehow Christian martyrs are special. Lol

Pease provide the independent source that wrote about the apostles being martyred for refusing to deny Jesus. Good luck with that.