Hey guys,

I have a question that might have been addressed multiple times before, however I will like to ask directly. I have a USA Visitor Visa and I would like to apply for a Canadian student visa while I am there. Is there no way around this at all? From all the information I have gotten from here, it seems like it's an automatic rejection. However I have heard of a case where such application was successful. With processing time being a 5 month average, you can understand why I am re-visiting the option of a month processing time in the USA.

My first application, submitted online was refused with no reasons given. I have only just applied for the GCMS notes. I would appreciate well thought out responses.

Hi guys mostblackroad here:

I had been out of town lately hence my online absence. My application got refused a few days. I am not entirely sure why because there was no correspondence letter attached. Even my ex-consular friend was a little surprised. I plan to apply for my gcms notes, defer my admission and reapply in a few months. However I would like to share my profile and hopefully I can get ideas and suggestions from everyone in the house:

I applied online in June. I got admitted to BSc. Commerce at MUN.

Documents I submitted:

1. Acceptance Letter
2. Passport Page and prior visa pages (5 UK Visas and 11 year travel history, valid USA and UK, South Africa visas)
3. Bank Statements from maternal uncle totalling 6.7m, also submitted attestation of age for him and my mother (my tuition and upkeep amount to 5m)
4. Affidavit of Support stating relationship (although I never mentioned about his dependants). Sponsor is based abroad.
5. CIC Forms
6. Upfront Medicals
*No SOP.

I got refused a US visa several years ago, about 5 years ago I believe. I actually forgot to state that in my application when I initially applied because it was such a while ago, but immediately I remembered I think the next day; I contacted a lawyer friend in Canada and he advised me to write CIC Ghana immediately and I did, explaining to the error in the application. They confirmed that they received the email and would attach it to my file. This was before I even did my biometrics.

I would also like to confirm if anyone has applied successfully from the United States or The UK? I plan on applying from there.

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CanadianNurse:
Last question before I upload my brothers and sisters

What is the maximum size of file I can upload?
Secondly Is It ok if I compress my pdf file using smallpdf.com

Cc: @@maziude @markab @austinepee4 @edilanco @oluwacanny

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CanadianNurse:
Last question before I upload my brothers and sisters

What is the maximum size of file I can upload?
Secondly Is It ok if I compress my pdf file using smallpdf.com

Cc: @@maziude @markab @austinepee4 @edilanco @oluwacanny

That depends, what kind of visa does your husband have?

Yomalicious:


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Thanks for your response. The fourth question was my kids have US Passoport and hubby Canadian visa. Can this affect my application

@eilenora When your TRV is approved you will be given a visa only for the duration of your first program on the conditional acceptance, after that you will have to re-apply or extend while in Canada. So if your diploma is three months you will be given a three month visa, once you complete it you would have to re-apply. I was told that and also confirmed it on cicnews. Re-applying would mean submitting financial documents and application documents again. If you are not in a rush, I would personally suggest you apply for a different program in a different school that will give you direct admission (unless you have searched and didn't find).

http://monitor.icef.com/2016/08/canada-introduces-new-visa-process-conditional-admissions/

Are you applying via paper or online?

imm 5409 - is applied to people who have a registered relationship in the government, if you are single, it doesnt concern you.

imm 5476 - is for when you used a representative (agent)

imm 5483 - is your checklist for your application

imm 5485 - is for people applying to settle in canada

imm 5945 - is for visitors visa and hence doesnt concern you

Eilenora:
Many thanks.

So I sent you a pm with snapshots of my acceptance letter with conditions attached. I was admitted directly into the diploma programme to take courses they felt I should have taken to enable me do an MSC Economics. After the diploma of 3 months then I may then transfer to the MSC course.

I started registering for courses as there are some courses that I am being put on the waiting list how much more if I wait till I get to Canada. I though of paying for accommodation as I saw something like that on the CIC Website.

So can you advise on if I am to complete the following forms in addition to the FORMS 1294E and 5645E:

IMM FORMS 5409, 5485, 5476, 5483, 5832, 5945 and also the VFS waiver form

Hey bro
Can you confirm when the domicilliary account or pay tuition policy came into play?

nelly28:


Bro go on and pay d application fees ( hope 4 d best), I hope u applied to oda schools too.

Info on how 2 apply 4 ur study permits, When ur LOA is out( I know MUN LOA is unconditional ) but due to d new CIC policy, it either you pay for you full tuition or show a proof of a Dom account statement & reference letter if u operate any, along side ur other academic & work( if any) documents & 4 how much will will b needing slightly depend on ur tuition fees and for d change dat depend too or ur packaging, try as much as possible to present ur best shot. below are guide and CIC forms.
ttp://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/nigeria/visas/forms_study-formulaires_etude.aspx?lang=eng&view=d

1) Instruction guide
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/study/study-how-documents.asp

2) Checklists
http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/nigeria/assets/pdfs/visas/53_1_eng.pdf

3) Application Form
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM1294E.PDF

4) Family Information Form
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5645E.PDF

5) Study Permit Questionnaire
http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/nigeria/assets/pdfs/visas/53_2_eng.pdf

SUCCESS BRO.

His bank statements, employment letter if he's employed and generally anything that reflects his financial capability. Then a sworn affidavit and lastly a proof of your relationship with him

bbclue:
Please I need you people help ....am using my uncle as a sponsored ...Please what are the requirements I will collect from help ......am applying for the first time .......

Properly outlined, at the end of the day, it is based on individual preference

tobyharwe:
If you go the online path you get to keep your documents, so if denied you can use them to reapply,

Its easier for the v.o to navigate through your app as it all in the system, no paper Mumbo-Jumbo.

You also get to keep your passport to yourself through the period your app is being reviewed until you are asked to submit it

If you work, you also don't need to sneak out of your workplace or get a permit to leave work premises. You simply do it yourself on the system.

Disadvantages(which has been surmounted times without number)
You may find it difficult to compress your docs within specified mb limit
You may find it difficult to make visa payment if you don't v a dorm acc.
You may have to wait a while to be called up for biometric as being experienced recently.


If you go the paper route;
In my opinion, you will find it easy and straight forward. No online technicality is involved



Note: whether online or paper, no peculiarities are involved, everyone gets a fair and equal chance. Time to review app is also the same, so here, machines don't make work faster or easier.

And I got this knowledge by reading through this forum...reference to evry1who has contributed here.

Have I missed it? Do you have a contrary opinion, pls feel free.

You need to prove that he is your uncle..

EJIZY:
Please I have decided to use my Uncle as my sponsor however he is based in the UK, he wants to give me the documents for his house(he has 2 houses in the U.K), statement of salary accounts and affidavit for sponsorship. Please are these documents for the sponsor enough,bearing in mind that I have about 7m in my own account which covers my tuition for a year and the 10k living expenses.

Me sef tire.. It's working now sha

Michaelbay:
NAH WAHOO ERROR ON CIC WEBSITE THEY'RE BUSY RRESOLVING ISSUES. BABA GOD NAH U O ABEG

@eilenora: relax, God's grace will see you through. You don't have to pay for you accommodation neither can you register your courses. All that will be done when you get to Canada, and you will just be calm and confident.

Eilenora:
Also please did anyone pay for accommodation before visa application?
Am I to start registering for my courses. seems like so much to do, so little time as well.

Wow you don't have a lot of time, pm me though, I emailed you the templates you asked for. You are pressed for time so I suggest you hit the ground running. If you are in Lagos, go do upfront medicals at The Childrens Practice Consultant. It's at Ikoyi and if you get there on time, they can attend to you within a few hours. You can do it first thing tomorrow morning because they attend to clients 8-10. Also have you actually gotten admitted and have you started processing the certificate of acceptance? 20 days is quite sometime if you have not started processing it. It would mean that you can't submit your application till the end of the month or in July. Which is not enough time in my opinion, though some people get their application processed within a month, but that's just a handful of people. That's something you have to decide if you can risk.

I think it is safer your tuition is paid. Since she has her pension and other accounts in good shape. Paying the tuition settles the question of if you are really going to school there and it validates your mom's other documents as legit. That's my opinion on that.

If you have been admitted, what was the condition of your acceptance. The documents you would submit also depends on whether you are applying via paper or online.

All the documents you have listed are adequate for your application. I don't think you would need anything else, for anything you might even need to submit less. You don;t need to submit the data page of your siblings if you are submitting their birth certificate. Your affidavit most be notarized in a court and signed by your mom.

So far, your application seems to be in good shape, let's know the what you studied and what you gotten admitted to study. Then your travel history, depends on where you traveled to could also be a plus for you. If you have been denied a visa you should remember to note that too.

Eilenora:
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So which is safer, for my cousin to pay my tuition and then mum's acct balance will be ok at about 4m and 1.3 respectively. Or don't pay tuition, deposit the money instead n2 her account but just as you said it may raise red flags. another option I thought of was to put the money into an investment house who will then do a letter to show mum has funds with them and she can liquidate whenever. at least this letter will not show when the funds was put in there. which is the best option to use?

Also the schl I am applying to is in quebec so I have to first apply for a certificate of acceptance which takes about 20 days, before I can now apply for my visa. is it feasible as schl resumes September 5 (Concordia).

Here are the documents I intend using to apply. Have I missed anything out:

(Me) I resigned earlier this year so unemployed, have 2 siblings, not married, no kids. what ties can I use to say I will return after my trip please

1. Duly completed application forms (pls advise on the exact forms I am to fill, they are so many!!!!)
2. Admission letter from a designated learning institution on the School’s letter headed paper
3. Fee schedule from the school
4. Quebec Acceptance Certificate (pls for those that have applied for this can you please advise on the documents you submitted and the process too)
5. Pension statement
6. Birth certificate of self and siblings
7. Family pictures
8. Medical examination (considering the time I am working with, can I do this upfront or is it safer to wait till I hear from cic)
9. Police character report/clearance certificate
10. IELTS results
11. Bio data page of international passport for self and siblings
12. Passport photographs with details at the back
13. International passport with at least 2 blank pages and travel history
14. Academic documents such as transcript from University, SSCE/NECO/WAEC results, NYSC discharge certificate, ACCA results
15. Statement of purpose

(SPONSOR: MOM)

1. Statement of account for at least 6 months with a closing balance to cover an amount over and above the following:
a. Tuition Diploma C$ 8000
b. Tuition MSC C$7,000
b. Living expenses for at least one year C$10,000
c. Air fare; circa N1,000,000
2. Pension statement
3. Evidence of landed properties
4. Contract of sale of landed property/investment statement/tuition evidence of payment (depends on which route you gurus advise on)
5. Evidence of substantial shares
6. Sponsorship letter
7. Sworn affidavit of sponsorship (pls must this be notarized?)
8. Employment letter
9. 6 months pay slips
10. Promotion letters, letters of recommendation, salary increases
11. Bio data page of international passport
12. Birth certificate
13. Tax clearance
14. Bank reference letter
15. Evidence of fixed deposit or other investments/sources of income

No wonder, it's quite recent. You should have noted it in your application, but it's fine let's hope for a positive feedback. If it was few years ago then they might not have questioned you. When they ask about refusals, they generally mean all categories and for all countries. A better response would have been that your application was (rejected) and you didn't realise a rejection was a refusal.

hurlaspecial123:


Last year December.I I explain to dem that i apply for visiting visit not study visa like canada. my intention of going to US I for weddING party of my uncle which is sehudle for Feb 21 2017 .

You need to download the latest version of Adobe Acrobat Reader PDF, it can edit properly

tomexy4:


I hav downloaded the request for medical exam form now. I tried to tick yes and save so that i can upload but the document wont save. What do i do should i just print the doc after tickin yes and scan it??

You the latest version of Adobe PDF

tomexy4:


I hav downloaded the request for medical exam form now. I tried to tick yes and save so that i can upload but the document wont save. What do i do should i just print the doc after tickin yes and scan it??

I suggest you just be patient, we can't really say why. I do know that it takes some people days and sometimes weeks to get the biometric request. I believe it is part of their processing. Quick question though, at what point did you get that message?

deolutolu:
Hello guys, I linked my application online, is it normal not to have gotten biometrics update 13 days after submission? I still get we do not need your fingerprints. We will send you a message if this changes.

Some people say it takes days for their biometric letter to come through.

mcobex:
once you are there it shouldn't take u more than 30mins , depending on the number of applicants to be attended to b4 u

Have you gotten the letter for the biometric now?

aade5:
Hi,

I also applied on the 1st of June for a study permit, precisely my second time of applying and am still yet to get a biometric instruction to proceed to VFS for it.

Have you received your instruction up until now?

@eilenora It shouldn't be difficult. What you can do if possible is to pay part of your tuition because yes that will reduce the total amount you have to show. Remember you need to show $25,000CDN. $15,000CDN is about N4.3m. $10,000 CDN is about N2.8m. Which means you need to have a statement of about N7.1m minimum. If your cousin can pay your tuition that would reduce what you have to show to N2.8m. However, you can transfer to your mom's account but be careful because embassies in general are always suspicious when bulk money comes into an account just before a visa application. You would need to properly explain, your mom that is and with proof. Since she has dependants, you will need to show a little bit more cash in the account, a safe range would be N8m.

In your sponsorship letter it is important your mum briefly mentions that she has two dependants, who are eg. in school and that she is capable of looking after them as well as you.

What was the condition stated on your offer of admission?

Also, land documents don't really count as proof of financial capacity. They serve mostly as home ties if it is yours and as a proof of guarantee if it's from your sponsor, basically it shows that he/she is settled.

Eilenora:
Pls advise, for finances mum is sponsoring. She has about 4m in her acct, 1.3m in a 2nd acct, about 9m in pension statement, 3 landed properties. My cousin wants to sponsor me but the relationship is too distant. Thinking of either she transfers the funds to mums account and we package it as proceeds from the sale of 1 of her properties, or she simply pays for my tuition with it,, this will reduce the burden of proof on mums statement. Wot do you think?

Also i have 2 siblngs as mums dependnts.

Then also my conditional admission is 2 do a 3mnths diploma 1st then proceed to MSC. Both tuition equals about 15000 CAD. Pls advise.

quote author=mostblackroad post=57119524]Yes you should shed more light on your personal history. Have you been abroad lately? Have you been refused a visa lately?

Also from the information you have shared I can sense some of the reasons why you were denied.

1. N2m is already less than $10,000 CDN at the current exchange rate, that alone does not cover your living allowance much less your school fees. Then again, you have dependents who technically are your financial responsibilities. N2m is not nearly enough to show that you can cover all the necessary needs in Canada and at home in Nigeria. At the current parallel market rates of N285 to $1CDN, you need to show at least N6m on your part (I am assuming your school fees are over $10,000CDN) and then another N2m or more to cover the expenses on your dependents here in Nigeria. So you have to look at a statement of roughly N9-10m to be on a safe side. Farm and hatchery documents are cool but they are not strong pillars. The Canadians care more about liquid cash than property.

Share more light on your situation and I may be able to share further insights.

- themostblackroad

Yes especially because if your work experience.

Austinpee4:


Your concern as emboldened will be the reality that will face your application if you proceed. 2007 till now is a long time to gain sufficient work experience in the aviation industry and a master degree program will be reasonable to achieve in this path.

More to your dilemma would be the choice of an advance diploma in a field you left long time ago without any major activitiy in since after school.

A good choice would be a master or atleast a post graduate diploma in an aviation related field and not agriculture. It probably won't add up as to the rationale behind your decision to pursue higher study. I mean, what would you say is motivating you in this light? You will be cleary seen as an economic migrant rather than a bonafide student.

hurlaspecial123:
I got a mail on 10/5/2017 for procedural fairness to be replied in 15days. .it was stated that I did not indicate that I was refused USA visa ...I respond to that mail within 5 days . My response already pass 15days now and no response form VO Ghana till now .. please guys help me out
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Wow, when were you refused the USA visa and what explanation did you give them? Because of the backlog, they usually respond slowly sometimes. Just exercise patience.

If you requested for the template of Affidavit of Support and Letter of Sponsorship, please kindly drop your email. Had a few issues with my phone. Thanks!

Oluwatomisin121:
All,

I have dire need of help here. My fiancee who got admitted to Uni of Sask for M.Sc will be making her app next week. Had to wait till now cos we are getting married this weekend and Sponsor has been the issue until we got a distant uncle to fill in. He has good balance and good job.
The help part is : please can anyone who has used an uncle as sponsor successfully be kind enough to share his/her individual and uncle SOP so we can adapt it to our situation.
Please I could use all the help I can get now... Thanks everyone.

You need an affidavit of support from him, signed in a court. Then you need to prove the relationship between both of them by virtue of birth certificates or attestation of age.

Bank statements are valid for three months

xyoung:


Please guys, help

HLion:
Good day guys please am thinking of applying to these schools Uni of Calgary...Uni of Manitoba...Uni of Ottawa..McGill..please which is much better for engineering

Depends on the type of engineering and your budget

Thanks sir. I did not come up with the facts there myself. A former consular was my guide. Most are her words not mine.

theafk:

Nice write-up. The only problem i have is that most of your statements are categorical, one will think you are a Visa Officer. There are somethings we aren't sure about cos we aren't Visa officers e.g Online is obviously faster, your other application will most certainly be reviewed by a different person
Also, i think if you are a married man without kids and your wife has a job, she shouldn't be referred to as a dependent.
Statement of Purpose or Letter of explanation is not only for course mismatch or course related issues alone, people use it to explain finances and loads of other stuff.
Generally, you did good. Well done and thank you.

Oh okay, seen

pmax:
mostblackroad:
Send your email address would send one


..Sir this is my email for the sponsorship Affidavit: up0643@gmail.com

DOs and DON'Ts continued

6. DON’T explain any situation that is normal. There have been a lot of questions about just how effectively SOP affect your application. Now there is a significant difference between a statement of purpose and a letter of intent/explanation. A statement of purpose is usually geared towards your school admission application, mostly likely Masters and PhD courses, where you explain whey you want to be admitted to the particular course. Then there is also "an essay" is usually written for the same purpose though for an undergraduate admission. When it comes to your visa application, you are meant to explain any supplementary information on your letter of intent/explanation, not necessary a Statement of Purpose. The VOs are more concerned about your eligibility to be in Canada than your eligibility to study a particular course. They are in the business of border control not admission. If you have a normal visa application case, say a 24 year old Petroleum Engineering graduate applying a year after graduation for Masters in Oil and Gas engineering then you have nothing to explain. Similarly, a 22 year old applying for a BSc. has nothing to explain because that person is still very much within the normal age for University education. Letter of Explanation actually is the least important documents in your visa application, if everything else is in place. If you have any lapses or inadequacies in your application, a LOE or SOP if you like will do nothing to improve your case, in some instances it might make your application look dubious eg. someone that already has a Masters in Banking, going for a certificate course in photography and using a SOP/LOE to explain why he loves photography, in most cases WILL come out as fraudulent even if the applicant genuine intentions. Focus on presenting a sensible, logical, neat and simple application with the appropriate documents and leave the LOE or SOP for only when you have a special situation you need to explain. USE SOP or LOE when you have something relevant to say that can influence you application. Let your story be sensible!

7. DON’T misrepresent in your application. Misrepresentation ends in a refusal 10 out of 10 times. Misrepresentation can mean lying and lying a lie that is easily detected. For instance if you say you are a married man and at the same time say you have no dependants on your application; because of your finances, that’s an obvious lie. VOs know that most men provide the income for their family so that as simple as it is can end up in a refusal, if you have 3 kids state it and make sure you have the finances in your account to show that you can look after them. If you have been to any country, be very sure to state it in your application. VOs trust liquid cash more than assets. Assets are only an advantage when proving ties to home not as a means to financial resource. If you have been refused a visa, be sure again to indicate it on your application. If you must lie, which is not advisable, your lie/s must be impossible to peel apart and with solid documents to back up.

8. DO factor in time when applying for your visa. There has been a lot of questions about whether or not online applications are faster than paper applications and the answer is quite obvious. Online applications are processed faster because obviously all the VO has to do is sit in front of a computer to review yours application. There are no transit times between VFS and Ghana, whereas on paper applications your documents have to be physically couriered to the embassy which is in Ghana I believe, that obviously again takes a specified time, maybe one, two or three days depending on the backlog. Now while online applications are PROCESSED faster, that doesn’t necessarily mean someone who applied online would always get their visa faster than someone who applied via paper because every case is individual and different. The earlier you apply, the better. Don’t do last minute submission because processing time varies and if you get your visa late, you would have issues at the point of entry in Canada.

9. DO consider passport validity rules. You will not be issued a visa passed the validity of your passport, so keep that in mind. If you are doing a two year course and your visa expires in a year, you’ll be given likely a 9 month visa that must be extended when you get a new passport. The Nigerian consulate is in Ottawa, and it is possible to get a new passport there for about $120 CDN. However when extending your permit, you’ll need bank statements and paperwork from your school.

10. DO reapply. If for any reason you were refused, calmly look through the lapses on your application and requested for more information regarding your case. Use that information to rebuild your application and confidently reapply; be sure not to come off as desperate. Your second approach should correct any misjudgements made concerning you. VOs are human beings and human beings are influenced by their personal experiences and such. Your second application will most certainly be reviewed by a different person and if you do your diligence you have a chance at getting your visa.

share thoughts, ideas and corrections.

- mostblackroad

special thanks to Mrs. Kathryn D. for counsel

atiteb4:
What about a 23 or 25years old going for masters, does he need to write sop??

That depends on your personal situation. 20-25 is very well within university age. Use the SOP to explain unique situations that documents can't reflect