Presidente I greet u.

The head of man is Christ and man is the head of the woman.

Why is Christ not the head of both man and woman?

Those with the wisdom pls answer.

The beginning and the end are one and the same.

The book of Enoch presents the construct or reality that preceeded the creation/ judgement of Genesis.

The establishment would rather have you believe that Genesis and revelation are in all of time the first creation and last judgement.

Creation and Judgement is always and forever happening as is intimated in the symbolism of the sabbatical year or year of release.

Presido I greet you. Teacher teach dem somthing.

The flying Roll judgement is here......

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Bidam:
hope you've not slept with all the girls in your choir using this erroneous doctrine of yours?

Goshen360:


Answer the question or stop quoting me.

The question has been answered.

What more are you looking for?

If you don't want to be quoted then stay off the site.

Goshen360:
OP and others advocating Grace + works, instead of grace that produce good works. I have a question for you guys, what is works according to Christ which Israel didn't understand?

Do as I do.

Live as the master lives, simple.

But not so for the children of the devil, those ones know more than their professed master.

shdemidemi:




Bidam!!!

Well, people like Frosbel, MostHigh, Jesusislord and their likes will flip this statement round to mean -do you mean we can start living in sin since you say we are sealed in Christ and heaven bound.

I wonder who sincerely come to God with an idea of disobeying or perpetually flouting the rules of who He decides to surrender his life to.

And what rules are you talking about regarding disobedience and flouting?

You cannot bring yaself to say his laws.

Lawlessness is death.

Pr0ton:
MostHigh

You mean Jesus didn't pay for your sins??

" For He has made him who knew no sin to be sin for us: that we might become the righteousness of God in him " 2 Cor 5:21

The payment involves you playing your part as well.

Live as he lives 1 John chapter 2

Goshen360:
^^^

How shall we who are DEAD to sin....live in it any longer! !!. It's only a sin conscious person (instead of sin cautious?) that will always see sin in the gospel of grace and sees sin in everything a christian does.

Far from it, I do not use the preaching of God's grace as though it's meant to cover immorality but God's grace is bigger than any man.

By the way, Grace didn't come cheap, someone already paid for it so I don't have to pay nothing anymore. ...

Liar Liar. The masters words are carry your cross and follow, so you obviously have something to pay.

No man pays for another man's sin, all shall bear the consequences of their actions hence the Armagedion or judgement.

To escape this impending judgement one is to live as he lives hence the calling to make the similar sacrifice.

shdemidemi , yourself and all your desciples have Chosen to distort what it means to follow the master.

If you like you can allegorize, or worse still when it suits you you can spiritualise, but the literal application will eternally apply.


Lawlessness is death.

[quote author=Goshen360 post=29437568]

I have found my Sabbath in Christ and I'm truly resting in the finished works of my Master. Na wetin concern me and sabbath be that....lo ba tan... [/quote

your sabbath in Christ.

Sounds savvy.

Jokers. ]

haibe:
Good night brother, that's if you dey naija. Next time practice what you preach so people won't pass u by

Presumptuous son of the Lawless one

And how are you so sure I don't practice What I say with conviction.

shdemidemi:


You now know how to deal with the troll.

The truth hurts.

haibe:

hahaha

Man with the multiple gods, I go pass you by surely

Na one God I know, the creator of the universe. Na him me I dey serve.

Him no get name?

Na so in go deny you too ooooo.

Lawless son of the Lawless man.

Goshen360:


Oh, I said I know your answers already but what does the law say about the Sabbath?

Wetin concern you with sabbath.

Chief scoffers.

Goshen360:


Leave story joor.....it's an evening dining with Frosbel..... . We're all gathered to feast on you....

Self conceit.

haibe:


lol I will pass you by cos I see you don't even understand what you believe, a lot like you are out there too

How far.

Man with the nameless God.

Please pass by oo, no room for excess luggage.

Goshen360:


Abeg leave mata for matter lol. You taking jokes very serious......na online thing, remember and we are here to feast on with frosbel.....

No time for rubbish.

Goshen360:


Oh, I said I know your answers already but what does the law say about the Sabbath?

Lawless son of the Lawless man.

And proudly so.

Goshen360:


Okay. You and vooks and Gnoni are doing good job, I must commend you guys but na time I no get to join well in the discussion. I think frosbel should have a rethink especially when 3 bible giants are telling him the same thing on same issue. He's looking at a subject from one perspective instead of of the whole. Good job to you guys anyway.

3 bible giants.

what difference between you and the pastors you constantly profane

Very narcisstic fellow, Na your desciples I pity.

Jokers.

haibe:


Christ kept the sabath day too?
The apostles paid tithe too? Or sacrificed the blood of the lamb?

You scoff. But yes they were obedient to the end and lost their lives for their convictions.

Which boat you dey?

Christ hater.

False desciples.

Goshen360:


And Jesus flawed the Sabbath but never sinned? Abi you're ignorant of the law regulating the sabbath? Oh, I know your answer already.....

Flawed.

If I remember correctly he asked if it was wrong to do good on the sabbath.

No where did he advice us to abstain or profane, this is all a creation of the mind of antichrist. The children of lawlessness.

Goshen360 be fighting Christ daily.

Goshen360:


^ ^ ^

Faulty premise to think that becsuse you cannot be obedient others share a similar fate.

Speak for yaself, salvation is personal judgement is universal.

But wetin concern you with judgement seeing there are no more laws to follow in your own paradigm

haibe:


The last time I met someone as funny as you was last year So because I tell you I serve one God, the creator of the universe it means I deny God in the flesh? I hope I won't have to go through a more ignorant post this year

Back to our discussion, why should I keep the law when you yourself cannot keep it? When it the reason we realise we can't meet up to its standard of righteousness and therefore need a saviour?

Keep it because Christ and all after him kept it simple.

But seeing that you don't need Christ but download directly from God this is all a waste of breath.

Lawless children of the Lawless man



Talk the talk but can't walk the walk.

Jokers

haibe:
How many God do you serve sir. I know just one God and I serve one God, the creator of the universe.

Finally.

It is whatever name I call him.

They deny God in the flesh.

The man finally lacks all conviction and dare not speak the name he so fiercely fights against.

Jokers.

[/quote][quote author=haibe post=29432979]how many God do you serve sir? Anyway am talking about the creator of the universe, whatever name you call Him.

Finally.

It is whatever name I call him.

They deny God in the flesh.

haibe:
What answer do u demand sir

Joker.

Stop being cowardly and tell us which God is giving you guidance.

You can see how I boldly claim yashua as my master.

Why the hesitation?

haibe:

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you
hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single
convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are."
Matthew 23:15

STILL NO ANSWER.

haibe:


Okay who do you obtain Guidance from?

Yashua.

Also known to you as Jesus Christ.

There is a reason he had to incarnate in flesh.



Unlike what the Lawless children teach.

jokers.

haibe:


So how does that translate to father? I obtain Guidance from God is simply what I said, you have a problem with it?

God in the context of our current discussion is a vague term.

Can you be more specific please.[quote]

haibe:


and where did I mention father in all my post so far on this thread.? Now who is confused?

Well you did mention a few posts ago that you obtain in guidance from God Himself.

haibe:

Why do you deny Christ in the flesh?

Me ke?

Are you not the one that is downloading directly from the father.

See confusion.