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The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) / Winners Chapel Sack Pastors For Not Meeting Financial Targets / Lady Twerks In Church During Tithe And Offering (2) (3) (4)
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Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by isarumah(m): 12:35pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Guidance is only by the God's Grace. Noah spent many years before winning small number of souls. 1 Like |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Supreme01: 12:35pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Why are you confused.. Okay, the person that call him sacked him, how is that your pain. You no go sleep if you no get wetin to talk. You want show say you sabi bible. Bluntemperor: |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by igbowoman: 12:35pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Righteousness2: One day these una daddies go feed una raw shait and una go eat am lick plate. Tufia 2 Likes |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by MostHigh: 12:35pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
The idol of the heathen is silver and gold...the work of a man's hands. quote author=Ishilove post=103880679]This submission from Hymar Idibie David encapsulates my thoughts. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4384095461629254&id=100000865297273[/quote] |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by igbowoman: 12:38pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Oyedepo promises prosperity and all his shiloh, handkerchiefs and anointing oils and preachings couldn't make his own pastor prosperous? 2 Likes |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by stagger: 12:46pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Every tree that does not bear fruit must be cut down. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by linearity: 12:47pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Righteousness2: ….but you are here on social media ranting about a Pastor who went on social media to rant. Further, you are bearing false against the Pastor and falsely accusing him that he came to social media, when he was not the one that came to social media neither did he post anything on social media….rather it was others who interviewed him or had access to the interview that posted it on social media. Hope you repent publicly on social media and to the Man of God for bearing false witness against him..Remember your own preachings about not touching God’s Anointing, hence you will bring a curse upon you…that Pastor is anointed. 4 Likes |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by King125007(m): 12:48pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
God bless you sir, for this, thank God we still have people that sit down and think Ishilove: |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Nobody: 12:48pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
I don't know why some deeply brainwashed religious clowns are finding it difficult to accept that church is a business and things like this happen. When I was still a church goer years ago, the Anglican church I used to attend was given a target of 7million naira yearly. Anytime the church fails to remit up to that amount to diocese headquarters after the end of the year,the Venerable (Head pastor) either get redeployed or the church get suspended. Cc ishilove and other brainwashed clowns that don't know what's happening in religious centres in this country. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Nauttyprof(m): 12:52pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Mustiboy: Even with the explanation, your focus is the money. I know of a church where the Pastor wasn't paid a dime as salary but the concern of the Pastor was always the growth of the church. This one still collects salary and still went to social media to give half side of the story. Did he mention the state of the church he met and the result achieved after 4 years of being a pastor of the church? The answer is NO. He won't mention this but will focus on how to paint the other party bad. Money isn't the focus but winning souls for any serious and kingdom minded church. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by RALPHOW(m): 12:56pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
It shows the so called Pastor joined the ministry for the purpose of making money. May be a case of jobless man looking for pastoral job. They joined the ministry less than a year and were exposed. Many have joined the ministry for more than 30years and are still waxing stronger in the ministry. Glory be to God |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Mutaultope(m): 12:57pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Righteousness2: The pastor coming online to rant might be a way off . Am a parish pastor of a pentecostal church , a lot of pressure on me to make sure the church grow both numerically and financially ..... I understand it's my work as a pastor to do so but sometimes it's always too much on me apart from the first year rent that was paid by the area headquarters and chairs and old drum set provided from the start ..... no more contribution from the area headquarters It has all been , I should know how the church will grow in both ways . I only have five families and I as their Pastor know what they all pass through....... They tell me about their sufferings and the senior pastor want me to use the bible to make sure they bring out compulsorily from the members c Almost all the fund realized from the church goes to the National, regional, provincial purse ..... practically NO REBATE. I PAY THE RENT OF THE CHURCH MYSELF HOW DO YOU WANT THE CHURCH TO GROW WHEN there is not cash in the parish ? AM A PART TIME PASTOR 2 Likes |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Tobechuckwu(m): 1:00pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
BluntTheApostle: Stop turning d Bible upside down, Salvation is definitely about people nd number. Salvation is not meant for stones , but human being. God gave his only begotten son to bring many sons unto glory. The Bible says go into world nd preach d gospel to people , not things. It is people that get saved, not things. So the kingdom of God nd making heaven is all about number. The Bible says I wished that all men be saved. Why would God gave his only begotten son if it's about numbers? |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Mutaultope(m): 1:00pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Righteousness2: Righteousness2: The pastor coming online to rant might be a way off . Am a parish pastor of a pentecostal church , a lot of pressure on me to make sure the church grow both numerically and financially ..... I understand it's my work as a pastor to do so but sometimes it's always too much on me apart from the first year rent that was paid by the area headquarters and chairs and old drum set provided from the start ..... no more contribution from the area headquarters It has all been , I should know how the church will grow in both ways . I only have five families and I as their Pastor know what they all pass through....... They tell me about their sufferings and the senior pastor want me to use the bible to make sure they bring out compulsorily from the members c Almost all the fund realized from the church goes to the National, regional, provincial purse ..... practically NO REBATE. I PAY THE RENT OF THE CHURCH MYSELF HOW DO YOU WANT THE CHURCH TO GROW WHEN there is not cash in the parish ? AM A PART TIME PASTOR |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Kobojunkie: 1:01pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
DeepSight:most definitely the money ! |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Kobojunkie: 1:04pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Tobechuckwu:You are the one turning the Bible upside down. Salvation has nothing to do with people and Numbers. The New Covenant agreement that Jesus Christ represents is between God and the individual, not peoples or nations or groups of any kind. Also Jesus Christ already hinted severally that only a few will make it out of a multitude who will attempt to enter into His Heaven. That there clearly spells out for you that it is indeed not about the numbers but about the quality of the candidates - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 Do not confuse what you see of Christianity today with the Truth of God. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by stagger: 1:07pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkiee: Can you tell us what Jesus Christ meant when he told Peter and Andrew: "come and I shall make you fishers of men" in Matthew 4 verse 19? The problem is that many of you do not read your bibles and you come out to utter a lot of garbage. What in the world are you talking about? |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by lomprico(m): 1:08pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Ishilove: what is it about then? |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by stagger: 1:09pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Your knowledge of the bible and things of God is so narrow, it is baffling. Go and read the book of Acts from beginning to the end and dispel this warped mentality you project here. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Kobojunkie: 1:10pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
stagger:Oh, So when Jesus Christ said "fishers of men" you interpret that to mean "soul winning"? How did you make that leap? Are you implying Jesus Christ trained us to go catching men for Him? That somehow Jesus Christ gave us a net of some sort with which to go catch men with? I honestly do not follow so help me understand how telling you that He will make you "fishermen" into "fishers of men" implies "soul winning". |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Tobechuckwu(m): 1:10pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: Is it a ministry that has over 35,000 workers they pay monthly u are talking about? What's his work if he can't go out to win souls when the founder himself goes out to win soul. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by lomprico(m): 1:12pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Righteousness2: he was given a sack letter, was asked to vacate his apartment immediately, car and other properties of the church given to him collected. he was stripped dry and he cried out and you are here trying to defend the oppressor because u have been brainwashed? gosh! if it was a private company that did this to its staff and d said staff cries out on social media, will you say what u just said? |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by shugasofttouch: 1:13pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Mustiboy:No my brother we go for the lost the places I go for evangelism, I don't go there without least 2k on me and every Sunday I transport my converts to and fro church and give them refreshments as my pockets can carry. We don't go after already made we bring I the lost and groom them in the word and then they take their place in christ. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by lomprico(m): 1:14pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Sulele04: simple! |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by shugasofttouch: 1:16pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
malcom1X:That he doesn't work with living faith doesn't mean his ministry has ended. He can also open his own church. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Kobojunkie: 1:16pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
stagger:Is Jesus Christ not the Law inthe Kingdom of God? Are His Words not that which we are called to live by - Matthew 4 vs 4? Why do I need to read the book of Acts which the Law Himself declsred that it is not about Numbers but about quality? Is the Word of God meant to be changed according to the declarations of men? What is warped is that you subject God's Law to Man's opinions and examples. 1 Like |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by matrixme(m): 1:16pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
It's just that we live in an age of quick rewards without labour. People want it all now, without sacrifice. Just because it's a church based organization, some people feel that they can come into the system and shout hallelujah, then collect pension and live in free house for the rest of their lives and keep receiving prophet offering. No labour, no accountability, nothing. The world just doesn't work like that. We are used to this civil servant lifestyle in Nigeria, where KPI'S are not measured and no one is accountable to anyone. Even the Bible talks about punishment awaiting angels that have refused to keep their first assignment. Jesus also spoke the parable of separating the wheat from the chaff. In the first place, those guys should never have been pastors. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Vicky2580: 1:21pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
evrything happen for a reason |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by lomprico(m): 1:29pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
belovedsonofGod: many people go on social media to vent thier plight when they feel they have been unjustly sacked or mistreated by their bosses. we have many cases like that and threads have been created here on similar cases. so why is this one a mistake? oh lemmi guess, your lord and personal savior, daddy G.O was mentioned. |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by fof1: 1:31pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Mustiboy: Yes Pls. Get Understanding and don't be driven by ur Misgivings,Pls... The Task of Salvation is War and very Demanding...but without Lethal Force,Pls. "KNOWING THE TERROR OF GOD ALMIGHTY AT THE JUDGEMENT SEAT...WE PERSUADE MEN TO COME INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD..." HELLFIRE IS REAL AND ETERNAL...BELIEVE IT OR NOT... |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by Kobojunkie: 1:35pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
fof1:The task of Salvation is war? Who send you this war you speak of? |
Re: Why I Feel The Winners Chapel Sack Letter Is Not About Tithes And Offering by rtmjohn: 1:36pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Ishilove: Mathew 7:9 simply talk about repentance and salvation, read verse 8 and 10 to get the real interpretation and not Sack. it talk about those that refused to give their life to christ. Moreover, most people don't know the responsibility of the pastor. it is not the responsibility of the pastor to win a soul to the church but to water the souls that had been won, though the bible says go ye to the world which means all Christians can win a soul through preaching the word of God but not the primary role of a pastor. It is primary role of an evangelist is to win souls/ bring people to church through Christ and pastor continue it from there. |
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