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promise10:
senseless.
please make some sense.

peddler of lies.. Oga go rest...

naijadeyhia:
Same way the illogicality of Atheism will be spread like wildfire and the Message of the gospel will also be spread like wildfire. Face it Atheism is in its death throes.

Research has shown its on the decline and would lose 6 billion members worldwide within the next 6 to 9yrs. Google is your friend bro.

where you see this lie bros?

naijadeyhia:
oh yes I do and even more as well because my study showed me that there is a God who cannot be stifled by the folly of mans wisdom. A God who can do anything he pleases yet chose to deal justly. A God who could smite you down for mocking him yet chose to be merciful because He knows your end from your beginning and that you Uruhara would believe and accept him as your Lord in the next 2yrs.

Note this day down. You heard it from me first.

vision 2018

naijadeyhia:
His proof is FAITH and this FAITH produces the desired results which are then tangible. He who lacks this FAITH cannot cross into or understand the workings of God

faith can be applied to anything..
Even brahma needs faith to understand his workings

Lennycool:
And his ignoramus of a side kick is back again.
Ebuka is batman and promise10 is robin.
Superman and jimmy Olsen
Aki and pawpaw

Do you even know how many countries have a high atheist population, there crime rates are infinitely low compared to the religious countries.

Park this your truck of ignorance one side abeg

no mind am

promise10:
very correct!
Montella is now claiming that he is not an atheist nor is he agnostic.
so much confusion, I just taya.

lol..produce where i ever told you that am an atheist or remain silent..

promise10:
NO REASON!!!

it doesn't make sense to have mercy on a coincidental being.

doing good in atheism doesn't make sense. but selfishness rocks in atheism. it rocks!

imagine, when you have some sexual urge, seeing that you have only one life to live, you go on to RAPE.

when in recession, you remember that man is just a coincidental being that will still decay and it ends up there, he goes on to steal and kill to get himself out of recession.

And when he kills, he doesn't have any remorse, just the way hardmirror hardmirrored 1.6million folks with no remorse. why? because man is a product of coincidence.

NO SENSE OF LIFE!!!

So, when people say atheism is a product of NO SENSE and NOTHINGNESS, they are really making a million points

haba bro...
Abandoned monickers nko?
Deactivated accounts?
Those offline within that period?
Shoo

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christians have no reason to be Good.

Ikennafabian651:
please where in particular is this shoprite located at??

okpanam road...after interbau roundabout

Dalamama:
Why not supreme beings. Why a single supreme being. Your evidence to show that the universe is the handy work of a single entity is WHAT?

polytheism seems more plausible to me than monotheism....

KingEbukaNaija:
@ MrMontella God is called the Supreme Being , so if there other dimensions or material universes then the plausible chains of causation end with Him , an immaterial being

in the multiverse theory..the other universes are uncaused by deities...they are caused by chains of events which creates alternate realities..e.g i lie..the present reality becomes an alternate reality whereby the lie becomes the truth of this present reality,and an alternate reality where i didnt lie is created because of my lie..
2) existence in /accommodations of all possible states of life since my inception and confirmation as me(dna=me)in my mothers womb is created all at once and plays out.

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i dont believe it tho..its a theory not fact

promise10:
so, you are not agnostic and yet may not be an atheist as you said. so what is your stand?

i dont know the proper title..
My philosophical position is quite complex
the closest title would be some form of agnostic polydeism..

KingEbukaNaija:
Multiverse theory is clearly fictional , infinite universes ? That's unrealistic and unscientific .

how is it unscientific?
Maybe the string theory is also unscientific?
The multiverse theory takes it base from quantum physics..

KingEbukaNaija:
Lwkmd !!!

Superadvanced material beings from where ? When the material universe has a beginning ? Delusion !!!

Rotflmaoo !!!

Oh boy !

lmaoooooo

lwkmd !!

ebuka..but in the multiverse theory..
There are more than one material universes..
So ??

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Being in a room with closed doors...doesnt necessarily mean outside the room there is no air..
Abi?

naijadeyhia:
You mean there are dumb atheists like the OP? I asked this because basically the thread has been proven as a dumb one and frankly an apple never falls far from the tree.

dont put words into my mouth sire..

promise10:
another dumb comment from a high IQed hardmirrored atheist.
there is a difference between God we refer as creator and creator?
hey, abeg tutor me. but, don't hardmirror me this time.

a creator---a cosmic force or something unknown a creator god----a transcendent conscious being(s)

promise10:
here he goes....
oya switch to agnosticism

its you who labelled me an atheist.. The christian logic---all pro-gay activists are gay

KingEbukasBlog:
Raphiemontella
On the scale of 1-10 how certain are you God does not exist ?

raphieMontella:
a creator god 1 a personal god 7
a personal god from the ones around 9(religious)
modified...this is the best position i can relate myself to..

i am not an agnostic

KingEbukaNaija:
Christianity has a God that's why !!!!!!!!
Buddhism has no god !!!!

then he's not a buddhist... He's just practises meditation..like some christians practise yoga.. One cant be an atheist and worship allah..

naijadeyhia:
Then swerve with your 4 wheeled ignorance drive

aiit..

KingEbukaNaija:
There are some deities that don't belong to a particular religion . In Taoism , gods are borrowed from other cultures and worshiped . Buddhism is a way of life , so you can worship another random deity with no doctrine attributed to its worship .

can one be an atheist and worship yahweh?
Or a christian and worship shiva?(christianity na way of life abi?)

naijadeyhia:
You seem not to remember what Atheism is anymore.

maybe because i'm not an atheist

promise10:
atheism is not based on disbelief in God as a creator alone, but both unbelief in God as a creator and gods.

or should I remind you the meaning of atheism?

atheism is disbelief in God or Gods..
Never says a creator...creator and creator God can be different...
Gods may exist without being a creator..eg hermes,apollo..
Atheism can be a disbelief in god(s),creator(s) and creator deity(s)..it can be only disbelief in God(s) and creator deity(s)

naijadeyhia:


I see you just love to argue even when obviously defeated you just need to yarn sha.

ahem pls Jonbellion can you read this link and tell me what your IQ discovered

http://www.existentialbuddhist.com/2011/05/is-buddhism-non-theistic/

pls drop this arguer tag on me..
If someone replies you..he's arguing..if he doesnt he ran...

theism - /ˈθiːɪz(ə)m/ noun 1. belief in the existence of a god or gods,
specifically of a creator who intervenes in the
universe.

buddhism has no creator god..how can you claim it is theistic?

KingEbukaNaija:
Higher IQ ?
You have no shame

not in the sense of all atheists o..there are dumb atheists... Im not even basing on this research...there are others .. but irreligiousity and intelligence has some form of positive co-relation..

naijadeyhia:
Remember this thread talks about the Atheists IQ. Brush yours up here
http://www.existentialbuddhist.com/2011/05/is-buddhism-non-theistic/

i read it.. It still didnt say buddhism has a theistic variant.. There are some atheists who believe in ghosts na..doesnt make them theistic.. Theism deals with a creator deity sire...

KingEbukaNaija:
Buddhism is like a way of life , so you can be a Buddhist and be an atheist. And you can also be a Buddhist and worship other gods . Just like in Confucianism , the Chinese who are Confucians can be atheists or worshipers of the supreme deity called shangdi or Jared Emperor since Confucianism is just a way of life or a religion without deities . You dig ?

i dont dig...
Can you be a christian and worship other Gods?
Can you be an atheist and still worship yahweh?
You're either a buddhist..or that deity's worshipper..

And according to research those "atheist religions " are not expected to grow in future while the religions involving deities like Christianity and Islam will grow massively in the future . Just like in China , in the next 10 years or so Christianity is expected to have over 200 million adherents..

where did you get that?
Because pew research shows that confucianism will increase...hinduism will also increase..and it has atheistic variants

Also remember that atheism has the lowest retention rate in the world . So yes , atheism is currently on life support

lowest retention rate but higher IQ ..
Life support in your dreams...
You either stick to your 2% without buddhists and co..or accept that it will increase by including your buddhism and co

HeavenIsSoReall:
Where is your IQ?

you're asking for my IQ... Take a look at your signature! Rubbish

naijadeyhia:
Question: Do you know that Buddhism has the theistic and the atheistic side? If your answer is yes then your question is irrelevant!

thats hinduism..not buddhism

KingEbukaNaija:
Please go home you are drunk . I think you don't even know what atheism is .

atheism - /ˈeɪθɪɪz(ə)m/ noun 1. disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God
or gods.
Pantheism does not have a creator deity...does it?
You're having confulated ideas about the definition of ''God''

KingEbukaNaija:
Just negodu

so buddhists are atheists..
Why do you then say atheists make up 2% of the world..if buddhists make up about 7% of the worlds population? Or atheists dying and on life support?
Can you explain to me?
I do hope you change your stance about steve jobs then..

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but buddha did not deny the existence of Gods na? He just said they are irrelevant in his cause...??

KingEbukaNaija:
Please stop embarrassing yourself

please visit this link
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jain_cosmology

here's an excerpt

Jain texts propound that the universe was never
created, nor will it ever cease to exist. It is
independent and self-sufficient, and does not
require any superior power to govern it.

here----
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Jainism#Definition

an excerpt from the article
From the essential perspective, the soul of every
living organism is perfect in every way, is
independent of any actions of the organism, and
is considered God or to have godliness But the
epithet of God is given to the soul in whom its
properties manifest in accordance with its inherent nature.

in jainism..the souls become Gods when they attain Keval gyan
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pañca-Parameṣṭhi

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pantheism does not have any god..as in deity
Are you also saying pantheism is atheistic?

KingEbukaNaija:
@ MrMontella , jonbellion , lennycool

The emboldened text shows that those ignorant researchers don't know that there are religious atheists with religious beliefs in Buddhism..

bro..maybe you should look at the original document before you draw your conclusion..dont you think so?we dont call buddhists atheists...do we?
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Jainism...

jainists are not atheists...its some form of pantheism or so..

Confucianism..

ok

Unitarian Universalism.

permit me to ask.......------so now...you agree that UU is atheistic..but wont agree that Tim berners lee who invented the www is an atheist why?

and so many others , And that the deists , panentheists who acknowledge the existence of God are non religious..

of course deists are usually highly intellectual

So they are simply saying if you are religious you likely have a low IQ because of your religious beliefs . Right ? That means those religious atheists in the aforementioned religions have low IQs because of their religious beliefs . Right ?

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot - this is a perfect example.

Hilarious!

The research was done in ignorance of the diversity in religion which can involve both believers and atheists . This of course proves the research was poorly done and should tossed into a trash can .

there are other researches bro done on belief in God too...and check up the original document...parameters used...before concluding

HeavenIsSoReall:
With all your IQ and science you can't travel to the SUN, because you know that your IQ and science will melt in the SUN by the power of Most High God. I was an Atheist and I can tell you that. There's God in Heaven.

wow damn!
So hot water is also proof of yahweh?