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[quote author=hopefulLandlord post=50505404][/quote]lol

KingEbukasBlog:
Aaaaaaannnnnnd ... he misses the idea !

there is no idea there...
He used ''population'' as ''credibility''...
Thats why its a failed logic!

KingEbukasBlog:
How dare you accuse a Christian of thinking illogically . That's an insult to him . Apologize now

The population of atheists in the world is picayune when compared to the population of the religious , so one or two people abjuring their belief in God does not really count .

by your failed logic...
The approx 1.3 billion catholics out of the 2.1 billion christians in the world are correct....
They are the true pathway to your heaven and jesus and warefa....so your little amount of protestant christians is not significant in cases of truth...
Correct?

winner01:
Lol. Broke free from what

from the political power of christianity....

Just imagine islam had the type of population or power christianity has today.
Imagine your version of militant atbeism had the type of population or power christianity has today.

christianity has once had the power and we saw what it could do with it---very dangerous
so we had to stop it...
History speaks for itself

Face it. Christianity teaches tolerance, that is why secularism can be ushered into countries that once had state religions (christianity). In islam, this is not the case. We have history to thank for exposing atheistic countries too.

thanks to history for making us realise that given christianity political power is deadly..
Secularism has nothing to do with christianity..stop the lie

So guy, You ddnt break free from anything. Infact, your voice is minute. If christianity was as wild as islam or militant atheism. You either be quiet or dead.

we've seen what christianity can do when its given the power and control it wants..
We wont try that again bro...stop hoping for it.

winner01:
Yes, each person from the history of humanity and about 2% today

Why not allow coldhardtruth do his job, and spray him likes from HopefulLandlord, HopefuLandlord and Hopeful1anlord

stop this argument ad populatum..
I can show you how foolish it is...
Stop thinking illogically.

Lol..as expected the wailers are here in their swarms....


Already saying he's not a christian bla bla bla...
Typical cra'y...

peacesamuel94:
So how did you come up with the assertion that of all the numerous religious sects we have in nigeria and all over the world, That there is no possibility of anyone of them to bê right

i've read a lot of religious texts so name them..
Like i said...evidence is all it takes...they have no evidence...

And your display of overconfidence in their fallibility, suggests that you know too much about how the universe came about to be ignorant.

God is not tied to religion..
Thats why Deists and Poly deists exists...
And on your ignorance statement..
You seem to be misunderstanding the word ''ignorance''...

peacesamuel94:
its the same thing, confusion is as a result of ignorance. You claim to admit ignorance but yet, you are so confident that the universe was not created denying the possibility of a creator
Even to the extent of becoming an atheist.
Isn't that a Big contradiction!

@the underlined...the atheists on nairaland and those i know do not say that..
What atheists say----the gods presented by various religious sects are fake/false/made up,,they are not what their proponents claim them to be....but if the universe was created or not ---we dont know yet...its that simple.

promise10:
Here he goes....


An average atheist falsely claiming to be intelligent!

All theists are foolish, and all atheists are wise- charles darwkins(aka the high priest of atheism).

have you taken your medications for today bro?

peacesamuel94:
so atheists are confused as to how we came about? so why the choice to become atheists in the first place when the knowledge you have about the universe and it origin are inconclusive.

they are not confused..they are just ignorant as at our present state...admitting ignorance is not bad...i
Instead of believing in a fairy tale and pronouncing it as truth..
Admitting ignorance is much more better and open.

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hopefulLandlord:
Mr Taurus

we've been through this argument before, even Honourhim opened a thread on it sometime back,

Christians themselves don't agree on omniscience and freewill, each one stating empty words despite them claiming to "have a relationship with the holy ghost"

seems holy ghost authors confusion afterall

the holy ghost made me open a thread about it before.....funny enough each can support their stand and condemn the others with bible verses from the supposed dictated book of just one ''God''

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hopefulLandlord:
that guy pulled a strawman fallacy

defined atheism in order to reduce it to the same level as his pathetic religion


sad

people just have misconceptions..everywhere...even the ''old daddies'' we've been teaching..they still dont get it...

winner01:
No i'm not.

Religiousity/spirituality is different from religion.

The God shaped void.

religiousity is an aspect of religion...
If by spirituality you mean higher powers controlling the universe etc....the piraha people are not spiritual..

peacesamuel94:
atheists view it to be illogical for a supreme Being to have come out from nothing to create everything, but yet betray the same Logic by believing that the Universe came from nothing.
So what makes you any different from the christians?

we do not conclude...
We just havent seen the incontrovertible evidence yet...
All these are misconceptions of atheism...
P.s im not an atheist tho.

winner01:
Bro. This is sad!

it is the truth..

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your long epistle was filled with errors...i dont even know where to start from

GRIMMJOE:
I will advice any sane person to avoid conversations with felixmor1 he is a Lost Psycho- Path

hahahahhaha

winner01:
Thats right. Adam also had no religion. I cant consider myself to have a religion.

smh, and you just said religiousity is part of humanity?
Are you trolling?

Winner01...the piraha people of the amazon jungle have no religion...

Thermodynamics:
I am a christian but i am not here to convince you that Christianity is the right religion, what am here to say is that "IT MAKES NO SENSE TO BE AN ATHEIST" i mean just think about the existence of man

this has been explained..

the complexity of the human body

this has been broken down

the complexity of the brain

thats what researches are for...
It evolved tho..

how the human mind works, how do you explain the the fact that you are conscious, what about the fact that you have a rational mind, that you can think clearly and be logical and compared to animals

even animals are conscious..
A bird-brain grasped the ''zero'' concept---a feat which only 3 years old and upwards can achieve..

the list is endless. Dont even get me started with the complexities of the universe come on guys, all of these couldn't have happened by chance

your definition of chance is misdefined..

, there has to be a creator behind all these. My point is that " IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO BELIEVE IN THE EXISTENCE OF GOD THAN TO BELIEVE HE DOESN'T EXIST". Weda be it christian or Muslim or any other religion, it's far better than being an atheist. To believe in something is better than believing in nothing.

what about the deists?
Is God tied to religion?
Hell No!

Atheism takes away the hope. Why not believe in God, you have nothing to lose.

My next set of paragraphs are excluded to Atheist who choose to denial the existence of God because they are angry at God for not getting them a job or granting their heart desires which in any case will always hold on to their hate and anger towards God claiming to be an Atheist even though they know God exist. They are excluded because they already know of God's existence, they just don't like the idea of being a christian anymore due to personal issues.There is nothing i am going to write now that will change their view towards Christianity or any other religion for that matter.

you really have a wrong perception about atheist bro...

I would open a special tread for them, for now i am just doing as the spirit leads.

Now to the open minded Atheist:

If you are not still convinced with what i wrote up there, we can go your way. I am quite sure these set of Atheist are very logical and rational human beings, i mean it's because you have done extensive research on the concept of religion and you've found some inconsistencies that's why you don't believe in the existence of a supreme being, okay, let's do this your way, nobody can totally proof that God exist, and of course nobody can also flawlessly proof that God does not exist

how can you disprove something which was created and given the 3 I's?
i1---Inaudible(generally)
i2---invisible
i3---imperceptible?

even though there are more facts proofing the existence of God".

it's only logical that enternity can only exist in one of the two scenarios:

[b][/b]Case one: A Christian and an Atheist dies and found out that there is no God afterall, well the Atheist will just say, see, i told you God doesn't exist, and that's the end. They both have nothing to lose right?

[b][/b]case two: A Christian and an Atheist dies and found out that there is a God afterall, the christian goes to heaven and the Atheist goes to hell. Who is the loser at the end of the day?, i think you already know .

See, you have absolutely nothing to lose by believing in the existence of God, but stands a chance of losing everything if you don't believe in God. Note, not only Christianity talks about eternal condemnation(hell), other religion do talk about punishment for those who refuse to believe. Choose wisely my fellow Nigerians, stop paying attention to all those oyibo Atheist

oyibo atheists bro?
One has to listen to a white to disbelieve in something?
Is this really what the whites have done to you?
Inferiority?

think for yourself, this is a very very important decision, probably the most important decision you will ever make in your life, think carefully about what i've just writing a word is enough for a wise.

An Atheist might ask me a personal question, what if there is a God but Christianity turned out to be the wrong religion, well my answer will be, at least i tried, i tried to serve God the best way i could, it's far better than doing nothing. But i know and [b][/b]strongly believe that I am in the right path .

Despite the fact that I was born into a christian family, i got to a point in my life where my rational mind overtook my absolute belief, and i had to stop and question the existence of God. I thought of these things intensively and i came to a conclusion that truly God exist.
I have so much to write to you guys but i am tired of typing.

[/b]Speaking on my religious belief as a christian:

The truth will [b][/b]ALWAYS remain the truth, it doesn't matter if you believe it or not. God is very much alive and he is up there watching us, he has been existing long before any of us, the fact that you do not know of his existence will be no excuse. Do your research properly and quickly now that you are still alive. This is a very important decision, one that is not to be toiled with. I believe there is a heaven and a hell, and it is not in my place to question God why he created such a place, he is the creator and he is perfect, that's all i need to know "BLIND FAITH", he [b]knows it all, i believe he will answer every single question we have when we meet him

assuming your version exists...what makes you believe he will answer your questions?
If while on earth and all your talking,gisting,laughing with him he couldnt...
Even when moses asked him of his name---
the supposed name is an ego filled statement like ''mind your business''

thats just it. Just do what Ecclesiastes 12:13 says---- let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.

Mods please you have to move this to the frontpage, i believe this is a very serious decision everyone has to make please please i beg you in the name of God.

*scoffs*

LucemFerre:
Another fallacy... Just because He was ignorant and illogical in the banana video doesn't mean what he said in this one is illogical and ignorant... But, what do I know, right?

there's nothing commendable about the video/movie----except for the fact that he's gonna get rich with it
raising dead arguments and a God of the gaps..
We've seen it all..
I was expecting something spectacular---as the broadcaster/Op made us believe in the preparation for the movie.

winner01:
1)In islamic or atheistic countries, they enforce their foollishness on innocent people. You have christianity to forever thank for your freedom to spew B.S against christianity or anything.

i dont know where you're getting your myth's from tho...
BUT ATHEISM HAS A VOICE TODAY BECAUSE THEY BROKE-FREE----NOT SOME CHRISTIANITY B.S

wackpoet:
The evidence therein supports intelligent design.

You mean the intelligent design of the panda?

Evolution loses in this case because there are no present examples of evolution in motion.

people are being born without wisdom teeth constantly..etc
The examples are too many
www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/05/study-spots-evolution-action-florida-bird

www.listverse.com/2011/11/19/8-examples-of-evolution-in-action/
just search yourself...evolution never stops

Also evolution defeats the definition of a scientific law; it cannot be adequately measured, recorded or replicated in present times.( reason why it's just a theory ) . Everyday new scientists come up. and disprove formerly thought facts of the theory and you expect me to believe such volatile theory

what are you saying?
Heard of e.coli experiments?
Or fruitflies experiments?
Evolution is a fact..DTOE is a theory..
Its even a scientific theory...

Tallesty1:
Are you aware that atheists also wasted the lives of many Christians?

he said religion has never for once hindered avancement..and i had to recall him to reality.

donbrowser:
*walks away*
Just tell me the colour. Simple!

it has NO COLOUR...

kevoh:
You have time for these type of ignorant fellas. I don hang my boot tay tay. Any comment like the guy you were addressing, I just simply ignore.

lol..i was fvcking shocked!

wackpoet:
It usually contains connective tissue, adipose tissue , striated muscles, blood vessels and nerves but never contains a part of the vertebrae column as seen in animals.

because it's an error..from a mindless process..a phenotype which isnt supposed to be..but because of common descent it reappears..tho not fully formed..
Get it?

Also you trying to use embryology to support your theory. Hmm, well I'll deal with it in two phases. One, the supposed tail ( a very generous word) is re-absorbed by the body during weeks 5-8 of embryonic development . Now this is not in anyway analogous to that of animals, but instead is the tail end of the digestive system(tail gut) which later on closes and divides separating the Allantois(future urogenital sinus and urinary tract) from the hind gut. It's persistence after birth is simply an anomaly; no arguments.

at the bolded..
i'd give you a quote from a creationist website

the embryonic human "tail" is in reality the developing coccyx, or "tail bone," a vitally important, fully human feature,

https://www.icr.org/article/1068
so i dont know where you got your myth from..
The ''tails'' in vertebrates are a continuation of the vertebral column..so oga?

Two, we are related to all mammals, all animals, infact all life at the basic molecular level or even cellular level at conception. All animals arise from a single cell from parents ( parent in asexual reproduction) . This singular cell multiplies, divides, differentiates and specializes in function, leading to an increased size and complexity and transformation into an adult. Now this change I believe is as a result of a mechanism pre-programmed into that cell or that DNA that makes it realise it is to carry out some processes to grow and does not require millennia to pass , but happens in days or max two years. This change is what I'm choosing to term the 'Divine Evolution of Birth ',from simple to complex, from homogeneous to heterogeneous, the true evolution, a beautiful process, a mysterious concept .
To your Atavism , if you believe this, I hope you also believe in re-incarnation . How on earth can someone use the presence of hairy faces and 'tails' to prove that we were once monkeys and educated people believe this stuff.

seems you think atavism is specifically human..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atavism
check and see other cases of atavisms...

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seems you dont get what creation is supposed to be..the evidence supplied is in accordance with evolution..not a guided design

4everGod:
This is why I said you are lost in translation and you have concurred here by saying you do not understand.

Help yourself sometimes ok? Dont always try to profer an answer to everything even when you know your answer is shallow and dosent cut it.

I mentioned a few stuff up there which you wisely skipped.

Water is said to be colourless and tasteless because science says so and science also calls it transparent because that is how we see it and we have made equipments that also see it this way but do you know that something transparent may just have colour beyond our spectrum?

exactly what im saying...
For our spectrum ,,water is colourless...no colour---like off is not a tv station..
Under UV light...objects appear differently....
We're dealing on ''our spectrum'' here...

Water is tasteless yet is the only liquid that can satisfy our thirst in full and is also a major part of our blood... Yet beyond doing these things it also sustains life in plants, see creatures, evaporates and condenses as rain thereby keeping its life force to all creation going. Did water evolve too?

water is a natural compound which its neutrality is vital.....

if water could conveniently intelligently meet all these demands even without a brain. Did it evolve too? Does water have a beginning? What is its origin in relation to the big bang? How is it that it plays a vital role in virtually every single area of life on earth?

Think deeply before responding so you would not be lost in translation again.

is it the origin of water on earth?
Or the origin of water itself you're asking?

If you believe water is colourless, how do you differentiate from milk, kunu or yoghurt?

can you listen to yourself?
Honestly?

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milk is white and so is yoghurt...
The whiteness is due to the scattering of light by
the colloidal particles of the emulsion oga..
Its doesnt absorb any colour contained in light..it reflects all..
Unlike water...it neither absorbs but its refractive index is low...it reflects none......
Cc donbrowser...

4everGod:
You seem lost in translation.

Scientists know the composition of water yet they cannot explain how it is that something they say is tasteless ( because they just cannot place the taste or the taste is beyond human comparison) and is colourless (because there is no colour comparison as it can take on any colour it reflects but on its own still has a clear look which is still a colour but unknown to man) yet this is practically the only liquid that perfectly matches our body physiology and can totally satisfy it and is also a key component of the very blood which flows in our veins.

Indeed you are lost in translation.

bros...do you know what you said?
Water is colourless because in the visible light portion(which we(our eyes) uses) of the wavelength of light..it absorbs none and reflects none..light passes through...
I dont understand you here...
Water's bonded particles are ionic and its absorbtion occurs in other portions of the electromagnectic wavelength..
I dont know of this your claim that water has a ''colour''..

Edenoscar:
so you noticed,i knew i wasnt the only one who saw it

i noticed too...
I just scoffed!