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Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 1:39pm On Nov 28, 2016
MrMontella:

ebuka..but in the multiverse theory..
There are more than one material universes..



So ??

Being in a room with closed doors...doesnt necessarily mean outside the room there is no air..
Abi?


Multiverse theory is clearly fictional , infinite universes ? That's unrealistic and unscientific .
Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 1:41pm On Nov 28, 2016
@ MrMontella God is called the Supreme Being , so if there other dimensions or material universes then the plausible chains of causation end with Him , an immaterial being cool
Re: D by MrMontella(m): 1:42pm On Nov 28, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:



Multiverse theory is clearly fictional , infinite universes ? That's unrealistic and unscientific .
how is it unscientific?
Maybe the string theory is also unscientific?
The multiverse theory takes it base from quantum physics..
Re: D by Dalamama: 1:43pm On Nov 28, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:



Multiverse theory is clearly fictional , infinite universes ? That's unrealistic and unscientific .

You keep repeating it when reputable scientist that are authorities in the field say other wise. For now we do not know if the universe is infinite or not. We can just observe a tiny part of it. Too small to make a conclusion.
Re: D by Dalamama: 1:44pm On Nov 28, 2016
MrMontella:

how is it unscientific?
Maybe the string theory is also unscientific?
The multiverse theory takes it bane from quantum physics..

Only theories that agree with his bias are scientific.
Re: D by Dalamama: 1:46pm On Nov 28, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
@ MrMontella God is called the Supreme Being , so if there other dimensions or material universes then the plausible chains of causation end with Him , an immaterial being cool

Why not supreme beings. Why a single supreme being. Your evidence to show that the universe is the handy work of a single entity is WHAT?
Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 1:47pm On Nov 28, 2016
Dalamama:


The universe might be eternal. You are not listening to what scientists are saying. There is NO scientific consensus on that. I am not denying science. Your are not listening to what scientitist are saying. While some are saying that the observable part of the universe had a beginning others are saying that we know very little about it to make that conclusion. They insist that a greater part of it is unobservable to us as such we can not know if it is finite or infinite. There is NO scientific consensus on that.

The universe is expanding and it shows that it started from a point . The universe is exhausting its usable energy and its expected to run down in many years to come . Look around you , every material thing is subjected to change . You are born , you live and you die . All these are contained in a universe that has a beginning .
Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 1:49pm On Nov 28, 2016
Dalamama:


Why not supreme beings. Why a single supreme being. Your evidence to show that the universe is the handy work of a single entity is WHAT?

Why are you concerned about the person or people involved , just admit that the universe is indeed a product of an immaterial realm that's all . Then you can build your way to the truth .
Re: D by MrMontella(m): 1:50pm On Nov 28, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
@ MrMontella God is called the Supreme Being , so if there other dimensions or material universes then the plausible chains of causation end with Him , an immaterial being cool
in the multiverse theory..the other universes are uncaused by deities...they are caused by chains of events which creates alternate realities..e.g i lie..the present reality becomes an alternate reality whereby the lie becomes the truth of this present reality,and an alternate reality where i didnt lie is created because of my lie..
2) existence in /accommodations of all possible states of life since my inception and confirmation as me(dna=me)in my mothers womb is created all at once and plays out.


i dont believe it tho..its a theory not fact
Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 1:52pm On Nov 28, 2016
Dalamama:


You keep repeating it when reputable scientist that are authorities in the field say other wise.

Who and who ? Only atheist scientists are struggling to prove the universe is eternal . At least Hawking admits that the universe never existed forever .

For now we do not know if the universe is infinite or not. We can just observe a tiny part of it. Too small to make a conclusion.

What about the radiation echo ? What about the afterglow of the Big Bang ? All these suggest it has a beginning .
Re: D by Dalamama: 1:54pm On Nov 28, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


The universe is expanding and it shows that is finite . The universe is exhausting its usable energy and its expected to run down in many years to come . Look around you , every material thing is subjected to change . You are born , you live and you die . All these are contained in a universe that has a beginning .

Expansion has nothing to do with the universe being finite. It is just expanding endlessly into space. A space that we haven't determined if it has limits or not. It can keep expanding endlessly no one knows. It can burn up all its enwegy and be converted into something else. The universe it self can change and transform into something else. Doesn't mean it's finite. No one know of the universe is finite or not, there are postulations on all sides. The reality remains different because no one knows. We don't know what the universe is, we don't know if it is part of something else or the universe is all there is. We just don't know and so far it seems it is just impossible to know.
Re: D by MrMontella(m): 2:00pm On Nov 28, 2016
Dalamama:


Why not supreme beings. Why a single supreme being. Your evidence to show that the universe is the handy work of a single entity is WHAT?
polytheism seems more plausible to me than monotheism....
Re: D by Dalamama: 2:06pm On Nov 28, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


Who and who ? Only atheist scientists are struggling to prove the universe is eternal . At least Hawking admits that the universe never existed forever .

Alan Guth, one of the greatest and leading authorities in the field. When asked he said he doesn't know if the universe is eternal or not. Alan Guth is more respected than Stephen Hawkings among cosmologits. There is no scientific consensus on the matter. That is the truth. It hasn't been settled yet because we can only observe a tiny part of the universe.


What about the radiation echo ? What about the afterglow of the Big Bang ? All these suggest it has a beginning .

All these simply suggest that the observable universe started expanding from a source which cosmologist refer to as a singularity. They can't see beyond that. It doesn't mean that there is nothing that exist beyond that. Learn to listen and understand what they are saying.
Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 2:07pm On Nov 28, 2016
Dalamama:


Expansion has nothing to do with the universe being finite. It is just expanding endlessly into space. A space that we haven't determined if it has limits or not. It can keep expanding endlessly no one knows. It can burn up all its enwegy and be converted into something else. The universe it self can change and transform into something else. Doesn't mean it's finite. No one know of the universe is finite or not, there are postulations on all sides. The reality remains different because no one knows. We don't know what the universe is, we don't know if it is part of something else or the universe is all there is. We just don't know and so far it seems it is just impossible to know.

The universe is has been observed to be expanding from a single point . Galaxies are also not moving through space, they are moving in space, because space is also moving. They are moving steadily apart from each other - this means that they were closer together in the past. And if space is also expanding that means it keeps expanding its boundaries . What they claim is that it may expand to eternity .
Re: D by Dalamama: 2:12pm On Nov 28, 2016
MrMontella:

polytheism seems more plausible to me than monotheism....

Sure. If we are to go by what we see as humans. Polytheism makes more sense.
Re: D by Dalamama: 2:15pm On Nov 28, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


The universe is has been observed to be expanding from a single point . Galaxies are also not moving through space, they are moving in space, because space is also moving. They are moving steadily apart from each other - this means that they were closer together in the past. And if space is also expanding that means it keeps expanding its boundaries . What they claim is that it may expand to eternity .

Part of the universe has been observed to be expanding. We don't know what the universe is so how can you conude that the tiny part we can observe is everything? The observable universe is expanding. We don't know if the whole stuff is expanding because we can only observe a tiny part of it.
Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 2:19pm On Nov 28, 2016
Dalamama:


Part of the universe has been observed to be expanding. We don't know what the universe is so how can you conude that the tiny part we can observe is everything? The observable universe is expanding. We don't know if the whole stuff is expanding because we can only observe a tiny part of it.

The universe is defined as the whole of matter, energy, planets, galaxies and space. Why would a tiny part of it strongly show a beginning and expansion and the rest would show otherwise ?
Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 2:20pm On Nov 28, 2016
Dalamama:


Sure. If we are to go by what we see as humans. Polytheism makes more sense.

Christianity says that God is three entities wink
Re: D by jonbellion(m): 2:32pm On Nov 28, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


Christianity says that God is three entities wink
shut up your mouth
3 entities in one
Re: D by Urahara2: 2:35pm On Nov 28, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


Why are you concerned about the person or people involved , just admit that the universe is indeed a product of an immaterial realm that's all . Then you can build your way to the truth .

you by all means desperately want to believe a supreme being is responsible for the universe, even when they could be other causes responsible

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Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 2:35pm On Nov 28, 2016
Dalamama:


Expansion has nothing to do with the universe being finite.

Sorry that was a mistake . I had different thoughts and ended up with that .
Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 2:39pm On Nov 28, 2016
Urahara2:


you by all means desperately want to believe a supreme being is responsible for the universe, even when they could be other causes responsible

You by all means desperately does not want to believe a supreme being is responsible for the universe , even though it 1s one of most logical causes . All these eternal universe gibberish are just to satiate the desire of the atheists . Only atheists believe with no proof that the universe is eternal . And that is faith .
Re: D by Urahara2: 2:39pm On Nov 28, 2016
grin
jonbellion:
shut up your mouth
3 entities in one

don't mind him, he is even willing 2 bend the truth about his religion just 2 prove a point grin
jonbellion:
shut up your mouth
3 entities in one

don't mind him, he is even willing 2 bend the truth about his religion just 2 prove a point
Re: D by jonbellion(m): 2:41pm On Nov 28, 2016
It's just like Eminem and his alter ego slim shady
The christian God sef undecided
Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 2:42pm On Nov 28, 2016
jonbellion:
shut up your mouth
3 entities in one

Shut up abeg

What is the difference undecided
Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 2:42pm On Nov 28, 2016
Urahara2:
grin

don't mind him, he is even willing 2 bend the truth about his religion just 2 prove a point grin

don't mind him, he is even willing 2 bend the truth about his religion just 2 prove a point

I execrate when people mock in ignorance
Re: D by Urahara2: 2:43pm On Nov 28, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


You by all means desperately does not want to believe a supreme being is responsible for the universe , even though it 1s one of most logical causes . All these eternal universe gibberish are just to satiate the desire of the atheists . Only atheists believe with no proof that the universe is eternal . And that is faith .

I consider the creation of the universe by a supreme being a plausible concept.

and yes it is a one of the most logical causes

the universe is not eternal.
Re: D by Urahara2: 2:44pm On Nov 28, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:

I execrate when people mock in ignorance

kk. when Muslims say u ppl worship 3 gods don't complain o
Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 2:47pm On Nov 28, 2016
Urahara2:



kk. when Muslims say u ppl worship 3 gods don't complain o

Strawman

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Re: D by Urahara2: 2:53pm On Nov 28, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:

Strawman

























kk
Re: D by jonbellion(m): 3:01pm On Nov 28, 2016
Urahara2:
I can say blasphemous things about eminem
But blaspheming against slim shady is the unforgivable sin that would warrant to ne burning forever in eternal anguish from Eminem because although Eminem is slim shady, slim shady is not Eminem
The Abrahamic God must have some kind of mental disorder. ..............


























kk
Re: D by Dalamama: 3:02pm On Nov 28, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


Christianity says that God is three entities wink

Polytheism?

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