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You should be the number two problem since you have not contributed to anything in the world, what you know is to castigate and mispresent those that contribute. |
truthman2012: |
I am glad my friends that we used to argue are hear to read this nyc OP's, whether you like it or not He will be the most influential, and your overflogged claim of him being pedophile cannot stand as it is wrong to use term on him, a pedophile will never enjoy any other thing than children, don't you get it? And as grievous as such disorder may go, it is established that the victim may fall on his BIOLOGICAL child when the disorder tends to be triggered, so what are you now saying in this instance, you better consult physicians and they will explain to you better. You are just misusing the terms and it's meaning. |
So as you laid down in your own words, he was sensible enough to have been employed by her, and he was sensible to have been managing the business properly before marriage, he was sensible to have married a wealthy woman, and he was sensible when he thought it will not be wise of him to marry another woman while she was the one packaging the runs, and so suddenly he changed and was suffering from psychiatric disorder, I even thought you will even give him another phrase like adultphile when he married someone that is 15yrs older than him who is old enough to be..... Fill in the blanks |
So as you laid down in your own words, he was sensible enough to have been employed by her, and he was sensible to have been managing the business properly before marriage, he was sensible to have married a wealthy woman, and he was sensible when he thought it will not be wise of him to marry another woman while she was the one packaging the runs, and so suddenly he was suffering from psychiatric disorder, I even thought you will even give him another phrase like adultphile when he married someone that is 15yrs older than him who is old enough to be..... Fill in the blanks |
Hahahaha very funny, so WHAT WILL YOU NOW call him when he married his first wife Khadija who was TEN TIMES older than him, Perhaps let me invent a word called 'adultphile' or is it that all other wives of his are also children, or don't you know a pedophile is someone who has psychiatric order that will be hunting him uptil his demise, a pedophile will always suffer from such deficiency from time to time |
Hahahaha very funny, so WHAT WILL YOU NOW call him when he married his first wife Khadija who was TIMES TEN older than him, or is it that all other wives of his are also children, or don't you know a pedophile is someone who has psychiatric order that will be hunting him uptil his demise, a pedophile will always suffer from such deficiency from time to time |
I think I am now justified by all your comments, and any researcher and fact founder would have spotted all your mistakes and where you have problems in understanding the religion, BUT as I have said what is the essence of all arguments if it's not fruitful, you are not ready to leave your religion and neither do I want to leave mine, so why do you derive pleasure in abusing our prophet, and neither are we allowed to abused yours because it's part of been courteous and respectful to your dear jesus as COMMANDED by the Holy book, why don't we face ourselves in terms of intentions and deeds, and why don't we go back to what we believed in and let us be judged by it. At this juncture, whether you called him all funny names among which you called him PEDOFILE, hahahahahaI found it very funny and idiotic, do u really know who is called a PEDOFILE? Mtseeeew. Well... The deed has been done, he has succeeded in influencing the whole world, and YOU PEOPLE with all your kindness, and MERCY, you have not even succeeded in influencing NAIRALANDERS not to talk of.... |
You are still falling back to what I have corrected you not to do again, I think the purpose of these discussions should end fruitfully and not trying to deceive people with a very low knowledge of the actual fact of what we are talking about, it is an established fact that before the advent of Islam, mostly if not all tribes and Nations have engaged in polygamy, so it is ONLY Islam that came to reduce it to FOUR and even reduced to ONE if you cannot do JUSTICE, so talking about the prophet, he has most of these wives before the prohibition was revealed, and it's Allah that commanded him to keep them as it is before the revelation. The mut'a marriage you are talking about was also banned since the time of prophet, so why bringing the issue in this 21st century just to wake the sleeping dog, I think I will use the advice of my brother that says you are indeed on a mission to pull my legs and not to hear the truth, and Allah have said there will be people like you that will deny the truth no matter how far you have strive to lighten up there heart, I submit on this long overflogged issue and thanks for the discussion, I really appreciate it. |
proudkafir: |
Because of too many versions necessitate loosing it's originality and credibility |
Generally it may not be a sin to marry more than one IF you satisfy the laid down conditions, because all what we have been seeing in some men marrying more than one is that they still behave like someone who has one wife, whereas you with more than one, you suppose to behave like a person with more than one not discriminating, or favouring one above the others... just to mention few. That is why the religion indulge us to keep to ONE in case you will fall short of doing JUSTICE |
You will not see those unbelievers now to come and see the best part of the religion and it's prophet, it's only when it comes to his shortcomings, you will now see most of them blabbing as if they were mates with the prophets, very pathetic. |
You have argued well... But not applicable in this stance, you cannot address this issue by looking at the populous gender regarding birth rate , but rather you look at populous gender regarding death rate, this will show you that women were regarded as leftover and considered populous check France and the likes. And again we outnumbered them at birth just in a very negligible number, which is not much. So who is going to marry those leftovers using your one man one woman approach. And to be sincere, is it not all those countries that practice monogamy were the most indecent in terms of illicit sexual act, to the extent of promulgating gay marriage after been tired with having free illicit sexual act which is not bad having mistress all over in so far as they were not married to them . And then whether rich or poor and you want to get married that is another issue to be discussed elaborately later. And who told you monogamy is not used to violence as much as that of polygamy, and I know that been developed shouldn't be determined by polygamy or monogamy especially the way you are couching it.... To be continued |
proudkafir: |
Well.. I think I have made my position very clear on Saudi Arabia's issue, it is wrong and UNISLAMIC to forcefully command ladies to stay inside fire just to get burn, Islam and Saudi Arabia are different things so please NOTE. And again I told you that anything that happened in that stance will just fall under NECESSITY and talking about that every reasonable man will know that you shouldn't be talking about hijab or veil where lives are at stake and where people are struggling to safe themselves from fire, it will be a SIN in the sight of Allah to have waited for the fire to get you crushed after having way to escape. We have a situation in the time of Khalifa Umar where cutting the thief hands were suspended because of starvation. To Aisha again, I don't think because I struck my wife in correcting her has made me merciless, or has made me brutal, and why don't you research more on where Aisha succeeded in praising the prophet beautifully ever ever? Or is it because that will not support your argument? |
proudkafir: |
On the other hadith Muslim, actually I have just read the mischievous headline posted without getting deep, but after reading fully you could now see what Aisha was deriving at, she is not trying to trivialize the struck on chest that you people hold on to, but trying to emphasize that Angels doesn't visit a house where women are uncovered or stripped, and as a wife you should no what your husband can and cannot do, as such for the fact that you are secretly tracing him means you are suspecting him, in which as a solution it is not to trace him but ask him where he is going before he left,if at all you aren't suspecting him. And moreover in the history, she is still called the favourite woman to the prophet, so is it wrong to correct someone you love most? |
Someone will now agree with me on the defective nature of jesus not getting married, now tell me how can you restrict a man with a woman, this is unrealistic looking at what is obtainable at the moment, some developed countries were now suffering from this selfish law of one man one woman, where women were rendered useless and derogated without husband,and they kept complaining. And for your information it is Only Islam that specifically told us to marry just ONE if we cannot do JUSTICE, but if you can do justice, what stops you from marrying more than one, at least it is better than having a lot of concubines and illegal sexual act. It is natural to go for more than one woman, no be so? |
Been a country like Saudi Arabia does not mean they are immuned from making mistakes, this is grievously wrong if at all there is an iota of truth in what you were saying, to curtail Muslim sisters in fire just for them to get burnt whereas DOCTRINE OF NECESSITY under Islamic law has been totally ignored, it is even a SIN to submit to demise where you can circumvent it. For instance it is a SIN to fast ramadan where you know that you have chronic Ulcer. And with regards to my friend, all the hadith you have cited are summarized very wrongly and inaccurate, because using them as your headlines to fit in your argument is very wrong, now I have checked the full of it and I can see that Aisha was just provoked to have said that when she sees a woman beaten up by her husband, but she later understood what actually happened in which you suppose to bring it up on this page if at all you are not malicious |