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Penguin2:
Now have you asked why his case failed?

Have you asked if it was properly instituted?

Have you asked if the person that instituted the case had the locus standi to do so?

Saraki’s case was taken to court way after the window for such redress had elapsed.

Again, it was instituted by a meddlesome interloper.

Get your facts right.

Actually, you are wrong again.

It was only in the 2022 electoral amendment that only candidates or aspirants can challenge the credentials of candidates and aspirant (This is stated in Section 29(5) of the Electoral Act 2022)

Case example here include the case against David Lyon and the fact that the late Chief Gani Fawehinmi challenged (then governor) President Tinubu's credentials.

Penguin2:
I thought you wanted us to stick to facts, why degenerate to emotional vituperations?

First, the Electoral Act says parties should submit their register to INEC 30 days before primaries, full stop. Did it say the consequences of not doing that? Did it say only those whose name are in the register are qualified to contest an election in such political party? Did the Electoral Act say people can no longer join the party after the register is submitted to INEC?

Again, about not contesting in two constituencies…. Oh! So you agree that double nominations is a ground for disqualification but you have always defended Shettima?

But gues what, unlike Shettima who got nominated in 2 constituencies, Obi and GRV only participated in the process of the primaries of another political party but never contested the primaries nor did they get nominated. So what law did that offend?

In the case of Shetimma, he participated in the primary, won and his name was sent to INEC. He then wrote to INEC informing them of his unwillingness to continue as the Senate candidate.

Also not that the position of VP is not an elective one. Just a spare in a joint ticket as he is not the main candidate.

In the case of both Obi and GRV, They resigned and left. As per the rules or election in Nigeria, there is a time limit for which you can pull out of election and not appearing on the day of the primary does not mean you pulled out, it only makes you absent. But you are still an aspirant.

As For LP register, candidates don't contest election in Nigeria, parties do. You have to be a member of the party to contest the election. Obi and GRV were not members of LP When they were nominated meaning they were not candidates in the first place.

There is a reason Wole Olanipekun added that to his preliminary objection. Refer to the judgment between Adeleke and Oyetola. Where the Supreme Court said the tribunal was wrong to have not considered the preliminary objection before diving into the case of Adeleke's alleged forgery case.

As for the first two sentences you wrote, it is common of Labor party supporters to resort to insults and foul talk. Keep it up, you are getting there

Penguin2:
You might wanna cite the Act or Law for verification.

Because that judgment was in 2020, and between 2020 and now, I’m not aware of any such amendment.

Pray, what amendment is that and who sponsored it?

Because I suppose you are referring to the amendment that was made after the Kogi saga, and not Bayelsa.

Because to make any amendments against that judgment would be to say that the governor and his deputy, or president and his vice, are no longer running a joint ticket. And if that be the case, then we will start voting for the governor and deputy governor differently.

The position of deputy governor is exclusively the affair of the party now.

If the deputy governor is disqualified by death, voluntary stepping down, resignation or court, the party nominates a new one. Or did anyone vote for Sanwo-Olu/Hamzat or APC?

You are not even bothered about Obi and GRV 's double nomination from both PDP and LP and also the fact that as at the time their names were sent to INEC as candidates, they were not even recognised members of LP.

One was cleared and screened by the PDP before he pulled out hours before the primary election.

Same as Peter Obi.

And as the electorla act has said, you can't contest for the same position in two different parties.

The legal knowledge of LP surpporters is really something to love

Penguin2:
I cited that case because it is the most recent decision of the Supreme Court that established that the Governor and the Deputy Governor are tied to the same umbilical chord; that is to say that if anything is later found defective on Hamzat, Sanwolu goes with him.

I was referring to the case because its facts and materials are same with Hamzat’s present case.

False. The act has been ammended after that incident to prevent such in future meaning only the deputy will be disqualified

OmoFiditi:
"Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America
Oath

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."


https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/learn-about-citizenship/the-naturalization-interview-and-test/naturalization-oath-of-allegiance-to-the-united-states-of-america

By international law and Nigerian law, citizenship by birth subsits registration. You can take as much oath as you want.

Plus, you need to read section 29 of the Constitution to know how to renounce your Nigerian citizenship and it isn't by taking a foreign oath

Penguin2

Did you read Section 29 of the Nigerian constitution as pertaining to renouncing citizenships?

Being Nigerian by birth subsits registration so he is a Nigerian.

Do you know that Hamzat actually indicated this on his INEC form too?

Plus that lime barring executives only refers to Nigerians by nationalization not birth

Christistruth03:
Saraki the Senate President was a British Citizen

And don't forget he was a 2-term governor

Ngige too