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Staind:Your apparent forefather Chief Iyalla, history from his teenage years to his last great war, is in the book, "The True Kalabari History...". It is in amazon.com at http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0988996073/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1448777988&sr=8-1&pi=SL75_QL70&keywords=opubo+g+benebo Get a copy and you can read more there than any one here can tell you about Chief Iyalla. |
delishpot:You might to want to visit some of he Kalabari Dictionaries online. Just get on Google and run search on "Kalabari", and some dictionary sites will appear. Read compare and contrast for your own assessment. |
torusoeri:Sure, you insulted your grandmother Nduba of only capable of speaking Igbotic Kalabari because you did not inherit the hereditary mentally degenerate nature from your father and grandfather. Sure! your argument made sense. |
torusoeri:I knew who you were Tom Alabaraba when I was writing all those things including calling your father and grandfather fools and mentally deranged derelict. I never once thought that you were an Amachree. My use of the term though included their supporters as you who are dedicated liars and fabricators, making you a psychopath. |
shota:For once commit yourself to putting all this trash into a book under your real name and have it published so the Word can know who you are, and characterize you as the worthless intellectual midget that you really are. |
torusoeri:I should explain myself to you? Why don't you, your father and grandfather go F***yourselves? Now you know why I heap piles on you. |
delishpot:Send me an email at naye_b@yahoo.com, and then I will send you a different one through which you can actually stay in touch. I don't usually read this account so send it today otherwise I may never remember to look for it or even find it. Tons of mail go there everyday. |
delishpot:Finally, the word Kenge as used in the song is a transfer application use. Kalabari languages can be like that - use one word to describe something similar or akin in picturesque. The Kalabari language is generally picturesque, so to understand it you have to get the picture being painted in the words. So now take the "Kenge" for instance; that is the Kalabari word for "Swamp crab". This crab lives at the boundary between the swamp and land. it comes out after the water ebbs and walks the swamp eating everything and anything. It is primarily a scavenger and a sort of carrion feeder. When the river comes up full, it moves onto land and crawls about there until the river ebbs and then it returns to the swamps. Occasionally it retires to its hole dug at the boundary of land and swamp. Now during the daytime while it is crawling the swamp for food, the sun is usually very high, and it shell get baked real hard for a long time, and with the days and months the shell gets deformed and appear bumpy, look all patches, filthy and disgusting. This picturesque is the basis of the transfer application of the word "Kenge" to describe the severe case of dry skin. A place full of Kenge where it may not be viable to fish for mudskipper can be described as Kengeama, like Kengeba it is a constructed description of the location in the swamps. Picture in your mind a place where there are large population of all sorts of Kenge, running around, fighting each other and what have you, and you get the picture in the word Kengeama. Another use of the word Kenge also derives from that fact that it is deemed also an insignificant crab relative to the "land crab", Olu. So the word Kenge is also used to describe a scraggly insignificant person, say, for instance, Tom Alabaraba. |
delishpot:Now about your song, it is not a very happy song. It is a self-deprecating song being sung by a woman who has an affliction of Kenge and has suffered repeated snide remarks, but has come to terms with her situation. Kengeba is a slur - a constructed slur on a woman who is afflicted with a severe case of Kenge. The term is used to imply several things including (1) a woman who does not have the good sense to know to use body-lotion after taking baths, (2) a woman who is so poor that she could not afford a body-lotion to use after baths (3) a woman who does not take frequent baths. One or all of them are implied in any given contextual use. So in the song she says reflexively of herself, she would take a bath (likely in the river), she would go home, and never mind, anything that is said of you, never mind Kengeba, never mind. She will take a bath, she will go home, never mind at all what is said of you. Kenge is a severe case of dry skin -quite possibly due to vitamin shortage of some sort. Usually, the skin is always dry no matter the amount of lotion used on the body. It is most obvious on the legs where the skin dries up until it cracks into patches, and the skin is also ashen sometimes. Long ago the mild form occurs in Abonnema during the Harmattan seasons, as the skin dries up of every moisture so fast that there is just never even enough time to get the body lotioned. |
delishpot:I have no reason to abuse you, as I have no issues with you. I have had issues with these Amachree children who think that they can tarnish me by going around spreading falsehoods about me, that I am insane, in reaction to my asserting everywhere that Amachree (original name Amakoromo) was never a Kalabari King, and was a rapist, criminal, arsonist, murderer, what have you. Unfortunately they have started to find out that those lies are not working as well as they had thought. The Yorubas have started to realize that the Amachrees have been telling lies. Only recently a Yoruba newpaper has started to refer to Theophilus Jt Princewill as traditional ruler of Buguma only and not of Kalabari Ethnic. So they are loosing and it can only get worse. Theophilus JT Princewill was just a nothing worthless murderer Even Asari Dokubo threatened me when all this started until they realized that I was Chemical Reactor Engineer, so then they backed off. I have since trained myself as a Biological Reactor Engineer, so now they have decided that it was more dangerous to even threaten me now than to just keep away. They are beginning to learn that in combination with my knowledge of physics and mathematics, and my network at home, their guns would not protect them if a war actually broke out. So they keep their distance and I keep mine. Except this Tom Alabaraba another criminal who defrauded the US Govt and has been on the run from the law -running sometimes to Canada and at other times using fake names. But one of these days I am sure that they will catch up with him. He is just a petty criminal so they are not investing money on tracking him down. |
shota:That is nice! Consider that, that your grandmother Nduba whom you wanted to talk so glowingly of, was of Igbo stock, and most likely spoke "Igbotic Kalabari" to use your expression. Ahhaaaa, your freaking schizophrenic multiple personalities show through. Really when did you become a Bakana person? The last time a Bakana person wrote something here you insulted and told him to go rebuild his vanishing village. You said some unbecoming things that showed you as an ungrateful person for somebody who grew up there. Now you are again a Bakana person because it suits you. I remember telling you in another thread that so long as God blessed me with wealth Bakana will never be wanting because I will invest half my wealth in Bakana. That response was because you were making unkind remarks about Bakana, imputing that Bakana was dying off because of the people history of having fought Amachree, your King. What I did not tell you, Tom Alabaraba, when I made that statement was that I was also from Bakana, I am also from the bloodline of King Lulu who ruled Bakana after King Igbanibo. Now go figure. You are one crazed schizophrenic multiple personality dude. Oh, and if you must know, as a boy I did play Ngia. I even knew how to load it with mud to make it heavy, and even to first put molten lead inside it before covering that up with mud. I am informed on your use of the expression Ngia Kenge, because as the Americans would say "been there done that". I hope now you know that when I say those expressions have meanings, they, in fact do - it is that you just don't know their meanings. As I have said before, I am Kalabari by blood and you are not. I am Awome by blood and you are not, I learned my Kalabari from the source and I doubt yours because you seem not to know the meanings of those expressions. |
shota:Now lets consider these: I am Kalabari by blood, you are not. I am Awome by Blood, you are not. My Kalabari learning source is closer to the Origin Your Kalabari learning source is relatively less close than mine Your mother Nduba's Kalabari learning source is relatively less close than mine. So who is likely to know Kalabari language better? You or myself? Think! Think! Think! |
torusoeri:You need to take your medication before you respond to me cos your responses are off point.. Or your affliction from your father and grandfather is worse than one thinks or realizes. Your mind seem unable to process complex thoughts, as expressed in complex sentences. your words go bellow .. If the Kuro-ame left in the 17th Century, how was it that the Portuguese met them in the 16th Century as per the Portuguese records? BTW I know when, why and how some of the Owerre Daba (and not the non-Owerre Daba Kuro-ame) ended up in Bonny and Tombia, but I am just not telling you that's all. The modern day Tombia people know they are Owerre Daba, and Tombia people have told that just last year. So you do not know where the KORO AME left from to meet the rest at Torusarama piri ? I told you, you are one confused old man. Indeed, complex sentences fog you up: The 16th Century predates the 17th Century. So the Portuguese could not have met the Kalabari Community with Owerre Daba as their King in the 16th Century, if in fact they started the migration in the 17th Century as you assert. Do you get it now? I have previously explained this point to Tom Alabaraba as well, because he too could not understand the time sequencing involved. Does that also tell you something? The Kuro-ame consisted not only of the Owerre Daba but also of other families, so the statement (and not the non-Owerre Daba Kuro-ame) which floored you, was explaining this fact that you seem unable to comprehend. Further, it was the Owerre Daba group that fractured during the reign of Owerre Daba and not any of the other groups. Hopefully you have got that. Finally, some of the Owerre Daba who left settled at Bonny and Tombia, and some of the modern Tombia people have admitted to being part of that group. Got it now you freaking dumb ass? The Portuguese MET THE KORO AME at Present day Calabar and documented them so cos the Koro ame people have said they were KALABARI people.. The intensity of your cognitive dissonance is mind numbing Your other response goes Torusarama piri was a KE ANGA BE AMA ( Kengema being the adulterated version ). I will now write some statements I used to make as a boy at play, to further show you up as the daft and ignorant person that you are; and this time I will not give you any explanations: (1) "Ani kengema" (2) "Aniye kengeama" (3) "A kengema te" This is just to illustrate to you that Kengema has many meanings, the usage of which you have even admitted to being ignorant of. Bro.. Please give the world the meanings of 1 ,2 ,3... Do not forget you were insisting there is no word like Kenge ...Now you are using the phrase Kenge-ma as a word.......... In KALABARI there is nothing like ANIYE KENGEAMA..... There is also nothing like Kengema te in Kalabari . I should send you off to your father and grandfather -the fools and mentally deranged derelicts, whose Igbo blood you bear, for them to discover the Kalabari meanings of these words for you. If I told you the meanings you would really hate yourself, even much more; and then may be not, you exude the characteristics of a psychopath. |
torusoeri:Perhaps may be you will get it better if I interspersed my responses to you: Mr Name calling lost Abonnema man .. Make point if you have any point to make and stop the name calling and insults.. You are as old as my Grand father Mr Opubo Gbanaye ... Thank God I have lived that long as to be your Grandfather equivalent, and as such I say to you "shut the hell up, you freaking schizophrenic" Go back home and beg the people that have rejected you to accept you back . People already know your insanity .. Your madness is perhaps from the science you studied. Your own science got you mad instead of giving you knowledge. Please stop the name calling and make points for readers to learn things from.. That is quite funny, I am surprised that your father and grandfather did not have the good sense, and intelligence to have advised you not to communicate with an insane person. After all, I do believe that you were the one who wrote to me first. So then, it must be that both your father and grandfather were also insane, mental deranged derelicts hence they did not know any better to teach you that you could not learn from the insane. Or may be that level of mental derangement and dereliction run in your whole family. It is in Bonny kingdom history and also in Andoni history that One Opu Koroye is the ancestor of the KORO AME who called themselves KALABARI people that were met by the Portuguese. Now we have to repeat this for you to assimilate since you are one fat forgetful breed.. Owuere ye Daba led the Koro ame who are the same AWOME that were the first to go by the identity Kalabari to TORUSARAMA PIRI and this was in the 17th century. Nothing new here. The Portuguese have a record of meeting King Owerre Daba in 1599, and to whom he had told that the entire community was Kalabari, consisting of several families and that his family came from a town around Dukestown. Owerre Daba was characterizing the whole community in Opouma as Iwo Kalabari and not just the Kuro-ame family. He was the ruler of the whole Kalabari Community at the time and he was speaking for the whole community and it was the whole community that was recorded as "New Calabar" They arrived Torusarama piri and met other Ijaws like the Ende ame, Akiala ame, Igodo ame and others living along their various family sections and going about their fishing business. The Koro ame were the last to arrive.. The Kuro-ame could not have been the last to arrive because Owerre Daba was ruling over the whole Kalabari Community at the time of the arrival of the Portuguese. Otherwise, then provide a proof about when the Ende-ame arrived, the Akiala arrived, the Egodo-ame arrived, the Amabin-ame arrived. Of course, that Owerre Daba led the Kuro-ame in the 17th Century is known to be wrong since the Portuguese put their meeting in 1599 which is not the 17 Century. I am of the Ende-ame who were the Kalabari family, and I do know about when my family arrived at Iwo Kalabari, with whom they arrived there and from where. So the challenge is for you to say when and substantiate it. Besides, it was Kininyanabo Akeamaoloye who called the Kalabari family, Ende-ame, which was about 1676 by which time Owerre Daba was already dead, and so Owerre Daba did not meet or know any people by the name of Ende-ame in his life's time. So I ask again when did the Ende-ame arrive at Opouama The Torusarama piri itself was owned by KE people and it was a part of the KE ANGA .. At that time, The Bille, Ifoko and Oporo ama Ijaws were the owners of that vast territory controlled as ANGA be KIRI or ANGA be ama A good question that has often been asked previously and now being asked again: The Ke and Kula people charged the Kalabari Community and later (after the formalism of the community into Union) the Kalabari Union to pay monthly Water-ways Use Commission until they (Ke and Kula) became part of the Kalabari Clan, so then how was it that they (Ke and Kula) did not demand that the Kalabari Community and later Union pay then land-use commission if the land belonged to them (Ke and Kula)? Torusarama piri was a KE ANGA BE AMA ( Kengema being the adulterated version ). I will now write some statements I used to make as a boy at play, to further show you up as the daft and ignorant person that you are; and this time I will not give you any explanations: (1) "Ani kengema" (2) "Aniye kengeama" (3) "A kengema te" This is just to illustrate to you that Kengema has many meanings, the usage of which you have even admitted to being ignorant of. The people spoke IJAW language which is the ORU Ijaw version. The ORU IJAWS are all the Ijaws who say BO as Come or So as Leave or Mu as Go .. The Oru Ijaw dialect was the language of the Ijaw proper before the infiltration of Ijaw land by Isoko, Uhrobo and Edo and Ilaje that changed the Oru dialect of the Western and Central Ijaws of today.. However, many of the Western Ijaws up to Arogbo in Ondo state and the Egbema of Edo state still maintain 80% similarity with the Ijaws of the East ( Okrika, Ibani, Kengema , Billein and Kula and Ekulema ).. Evidences show that Ke, Ilelema, Fibiri, Okpoama, Soku , Ifoko, Ancient Oporoama and Abisse ( Oloma ) are about the Oldest settlements of the Niger Delta .. The Koroama or Awome land of CALABAR today may have been the farthest Ijaw enclave to the East. Their dialect was the same ORU dialect although they claimed to be Kalabari people. The Awome or Koroame abandoned that enclave in the 17th century and got back to the land of their cousins to dwell among them. Some of them settled in Okoloma ( Bonny kingdom today ) while the bulk of them ended up in Torusarama piri. Some of them remained and settled at scattered places to become the Obolo Ijaws of today .. If the Kuro-ame left in the 17th Century, how was it that the Portuguese met them in the 16th Century as per the Portuguese records? BTW I know when, why and how some of the Owerre Daba (and not the non-Owerre Daba Kuro-ame) ended up in Bonny and Tombia, but I am just not telling you that's all. The modern day Tombia people know they are Owerre Daba, and Tombia people have told that just last year. . The dialect Ibani, Kalabari, Bille, Okrika today have not changed much and are still intelligible to each other despite that it was never documented . Required is a proof based on Time sequencing relative to the Ke being Trace Center It is the same Ijaw language of the ORU version spoken by the Central ansd Western Ijaws which have been slightly distorted due to Isoko and Uhrobo and Edo influence. Finally, even in your allegation of my insanity, I still know my one single posture: prove you wrong, show you up as a falsehood-monger and disclose nothing. Now who is the big fat forgetful? Hopefully you would realize that your father and grandfather were fools and mentally deranged derelicts to not have advised you to not write to or to expect to learn anything from one whom you consider insane. As I am old enough to be your grandfather, it is to them (your father and grandfather) I deflect and reflect your statements, even as you shower public indictments on them by your behaviour of ill-bred ogling of prominence. |
torusoeri:I remember you: You are the freaking schizophrenic personality that is one of the many personalities of Tom Alabaraba. You are back again. You really are a freaking mental case, aren't you? Why would you think that because you have written something people should treat your writings as truths or facts as to respond to them? What proof do you show in the rubbish you have written that the Awome went to your-alleged "Torusarama"? What fact have you given that the Ende-ame were already at your so-called "Torusarama" before the Awome got there? You forget that I am of the Ende-ame by blood-descendancy, so I should have a fairly good idea when the Ende-ame got to Opouma also called Iwo Kalabari. What trace have you given about the travels of the Awome to your supposed "Torusarama" for anybody to take you seriously? After all how many false statements have you made and have been proven as false by me? What credibility do you have? You are a really freaking mental case, aren't you? First have you asked the Ke people what their language is? Whom did you ask who told you that the Ke people have always spoken Kalabari? Do you now realize what a twerp you are? You want to make statements but you have nothing to back it up. Second, who told you that there was ever "Kininyanabo of Kalabari"? Listen you freaking fool, it is "Kalabari Kininyanabo" Third do you even realize that the Ende-ame are the same as the Kalabari family, and that the Kalabari Kininyanabo Igonibo was of the Ende-ame? Fourth, have you not yet learned that Ido that you claim to be in your fictional Kalabari Kingdom and supposedly sharing boundary with Buguma, has already established in the Court of Law (and therefore created a record document) that they have never been part of the alleged Kingdom that the Amachrees claim to be existing in the Kalabari community? You are just a waste of human intellect. Certainly I waste my time with you worthless trash of a human being. Encourage Tom Alabaraba to seek psychiatric attention, he needs help. |
shota:I don't have to skip, I don't have to answer your question. I don't have to do a God damn thing. I am also not scared a bit about anything whatsoever. I was threatened to be killed on getting home until I went home in 2013, and returned again. I have been threatened severally to be killed since I was 6 months and I am still alive a kicking. You are not the first and you would not be the last to threaten me. Ultimately everybody comes to realize it is not to the person's interest after all. Reiterating, I don't have to skip, I don't have to disclose any information to you. I don't have to do a God damn thing. If I told you anything I know, and then you repeated it later, how could I come out and be blabbing? Indeed, that would put us on the same side. Really, it would be better if you got your information from somewhere else so I could come out and be blabbing when you write nonsense. But seriously are you that mentally indolent as to ask me for information when you are the one doing the research and not me? Is there no one in your family who is my equal in intellect and capability of processing intricate issues as I do Quantum Mechanics, who can give you the information you seek? Oh I'm sorry, my bad! You do not have anybody in your family who is my intellectual equal, that is why you only had the nonsense information I have been discrediting all these while, you are a stupid mentally lethargic punk-ass kid. |
shota:Don't be scared about what? |
shota:If I told you anything I know, and then you repeated it later, how could I come out and be blabbing? Indeed, that would put us on the same side. Really, it would be better if you got your information from somewhere else so I could come out and be blabbing when you write nonsense. But seriously are you that mentally indolent as to ask me for information when you are the one doing the research and not me? Is there no one in your family who is my equal in intellect and capability of processing intricate issues as I do Quantum Mechanics, who can give you the information you seek? Oh I'm sorry, my bad! You do not have anybody in your family who is my intellectual equal, that is why you only had the nonsense information I have been discrediting all these while, you are a stupid mentally lethargic punk-ass kid. |
torusoeri:Now lets see; Kininyanabo Daba occasionally visited his friend of Amanyanabo of Ke, and did so because, Ke was the Center of Trade of the Kalabari Clan as of the time. Prior to Ke and Kula becoming part of the Kalabari Clan, the language, Kalabari, was primarily spoken only within the Kalabari Community and after the community was formalized into a Union by Kininyanabo Akeamaoloye, then it was spoken within the Kalabari Union. So it was until Kininaynabo Igonibo came to power, and ordered that every citizen of the Kalabari Clan speak Kalabari, establishing it as lingua franca. This is between 1711 -1720. Several years later, Kininyanabo Kalagbaa, a nephew of Kininyanabo Igonibo then ruled, and died in 1770 - an event that is also recorded by Captain Hugh Crowe of the English, which information is in the Oxford University archives. Later, Amakiri had then killed Osimini Alali which dastardly act is also recorded as occurring later than 1770. So here was Ke a Trade Center even earlier than 1735, which was the year when Amakiri sought shelter in the Royal House of Kininyanabo Daba. Indeed then everybody spoke Kalabari already in order to trade, and you blighted ignoramus suggest that it was Amakiri who ordered everybody to speak Kalabari? You are a fool. |
torusoeri:What "King" Amakiri ? Amakiri was not even ever a Chief in Kalabari. Not even a Chief! Customarily, when someone becomes a Chief in Kalabari, the person is never ever referred to, not even to talk of being described, as a "Slave". Yet Osimini Alali of the Duwein-ala family who was the regent for Kininyanabo Kalagbaa, whose task it was to supervise the enthronement of the next Kininyanabo after the death of Kininyanabo Kalagbaa, and therefore well-informed about the heritage of Amakiri and everybody else of the time, openly and publicly called out Amakiri as a slave to his face, risking his life and died for it. That Amakiri and his goons killed Osimini Alali was the greatest mistake Amakiri made, because the event then got recorded by both the Portuguese and the Dutch, forever establishing the fact that Amaikiri was a slave. Effectively providing an attestation therefore that Amaikiri was never ever even a Chief in Kalabari. Furthermore, Gbana the younger sister of Osimini Alali also of the Duwein-ala family then proceeded and publicly and openly called out Amakiri as a slave and challenged him to prove otherwise which he was never ever able to do. Just to make sure that you realize this is not a fiction, in addition to the records of the Portuguese and the Dutch, Gbana was the grandmother of Awoye Kio, (aka Odum also Kala-Oba) Amakiri was a "King"? Only in your freaking schizophrenic mind. |
torusoeri:Your remark about the meaning of "baraba" in the name "Alabaraba" is just plain amazing. Your lack of capacity to even realize that if the real name is "ANABRABA" as you have opined, then you assert that the entire group of the family members answering to Alabaraba as surname do not know their names, and history. Do you even realize how presumptuous you are to make the statement? You are freaking out of your mind, that is what it is. And to think that you dare to even opine that the name I am "messing with", you stupid oaf. Listen to me you worthless trash, the phrase of the name that is used by the family is "Alanabaraba", which some family members write as "Anabaraba" and others write as "Alabaraba" The two forms are extractions of the name-phrase and so are both correct within reason. Now shut the hell up and stop insulting people, when publicly displaying your ignoramus self. Finally lest, I forget, the expression, "baraba" does not even have the meaning you have just given. Baraba does not mean challenge, you freaking oaf. Go study history in depth before you come out here to show up yourself as nothing more that a freaking bumbling blighted ignoramus. I have been asking Tom Alabara of the meaning of "baraba" because there is a saying: Before you decide to talk about other peoples family you better learn about your own first. So I wanted to see if he has even studied his family history and even know history. Now if what you have presented is also his view then he clearly does not even know who is he; and so he is not even qualified to speak on Kalabari History. After all, as they say, "of all that knowing, know thyself". BTW, I will also not tell you what "baraba" means. However, when you learn of the full expression of the name use by elder relative Chief Oruwari, then you will realize that "baraba" has never meant challenge. And yes Chief Oruwari, was my elder relative, after all I am also Duwein-ala (Akiala) |
torusoeri:First and foremost, your statement that gbola is the word demand/invoke/summon while "bii " is salutation is wrong. Secondly, your remark about "ani kengema" and as being "kenge in relation to ngia is also wrong -the two expressions have different meanings. I said you made "valiant attempt" But I did not say you were correct. Third, you seem awfully stupid or act out schizophrenic: After all, what is so difficult with this statement I have been making: " I know you are fishing for information and I am not giving you any". I also wrote this last: "Now what languages the others spoke before then? That you have to research and discover for yourself." What is so difficult to understand with these statements? Here was my last statement on the same subject, that you seem unable to get into your head: Hey Genius! If I told you anything I know, and then you repeated it later, how could I come out and be blabbing? Indeed, that would put us on the same side. Really, it would be better if you got your information from somewhere else so I could come out and be blabbing when you write nonsense. But seriously are you that mentally indolent as to ask me for information when you are the one doing the research and not me? Is there no one in your family who is my equal in intellect and capability of processing intricate issues as I do Quantum Mechanics, who can give you the information you seek? Oh I'm sorry, my bad! You do not have anybody in your family who is my intellectual equal, that is why you only had the nonsense information I have been discrediting all these while, you mentally lethargic punk-ass kid. What is it you can not understand, about these responses? (Modify) (Quote) (Report) (Share) |
torusoeri:I see that you do not know the Kalabari word that is used to demand an answer which entails summon or command. I will also not tell you. As I have been saying you are fishing for information. Though you have made a valiant attempt to address the usage of "gbo" as a syllable in gbola, you completely skipped the usage in the syllable of "I salute you" I guess you fall flat on your face there right? BTW, Kengema does not mean crack it. Crack it is "ani ba" as in "apapa ba" or "ibin ba". You may want to try again. But what about the usage in "Aniye kengemam" and " a kengema te"? I guess you fall flat on your face there as well right? Apparently, now you have no more issues with King Owerre Daba being met at Old shipping by the Portuguese now that you know you can be shown as ignorant with the matter of the Longitude and Latitude. Now a lesson for you: Know this Owerre Daba was the grandfather of Kininyanabo Mangi Suku, who ruled from 1702 - 1710. Kininyanabo Igonibo (the first son of Kininyanabo Akeamaoloye) then followed from 1711 - 1720 and forced both Kula and Ke to capitulate to him, and consequentially subordinated their monarchies to him, and thereby became part of the Kalabari Clan. After the capitulation ( I am deliberately holding out some info here) which finalized the forming of the Kalabari Clan, Kininyanabo Igonibo then ordered that the Kalabari language as the lingua franca; and hence everybody spoke the Kalabari language. It was part of the process of forming the Kalabari Ethnic Nationality. Obviously, it took Kininyanabo Igonibo in about 1713/14 (almost 100+ years after King Owerre Daba had died in early 1600+ s) to force everybody in the Clan to speak the Kalabari language. That Kininyanabo Igonibo would have to order Kalabari as lingua frnca should tell you that they each had their own language, because if everybody already spoke Kalabari, such order would not have been necessary to be issued. Moreover, sometime after that, Ke was made the Center of Trade in the Kalabari Clan, and the Okoloba people, Okirika people and other neighboring traders, including Ijaws, who came to trade there were required to speak and trade in the Kalabari language only, invariably making it the pervasively spoken language. I hope that you have learned something today. Now what languages the other spoke before then? That you have to research and discover for yourself. BTW, I have never said the Owerre Daba were the true Kalabari. Never have I said that. I said the Kuro-ame and the Ende-ame own the language, because they developed it amongst them from a combination of the Ijaw and Kwa languages, but the Kalabari language is 80% Kwa language and was brought to Kalabari by the Awome Families -that is what I have said. Finally whether or not you are Tom Alabaraba, my challenge remains, what does the "baraba"' in the surname mean? I dare to assert that you do not know it. |
torusoeri:So you say that in Kalabari "Gbo" means invoke or summon; yet, (1) the statement "a 'o gbola mo" in reality means "I salute you" but literary means "I ask you all" being derivative of "o bate" which is a sentential question. (2) the statement " 'i o gbola te" means "have you asked him" Now in both cases the letters group "gbo" is use as a syllable in the word "gbola" and which has different meaning in each case, and the meanings are different from invoke or summon. I hope that you have learned about the concept of syllable. Shame that you are so uneducated, and yet want to present yourself as educated. Now who is daft? I will now write some statements I used to make as a boy at play, to further show you up as the daft and ignorant person that you are; and this time I will not give you any explanations: (1) "Ani kengema" (2) "Aniye kengeama" (3) "A kengema te" This is just to illustrate to you that Kengema has many meanings, the usage of which you have even admitted to being ignorant of. Shame that you are so uneducated as to not understand the word "reflexively". Calabar was called Calabar reflexively, but that you can not understand. Now let me show you up once again: The record of the Portuguese has the Longitude and Latitude of the location in which they met with Owerre Daba, and the location record is not on Calabar but on New Calabar also known as Old Shipping - it was called New Calabar because Owerre Daba told them that this was their new location, or New Kalabari (Iwo Kalabari). In those days as now, all locations were marked with the Longitude and Latitude of the place. Even till today, properties in the Cities of the Western World are marked in Longitude and Latitude relative to a reference point. But you would not know that as you are uninformed of rational standard just as you are all about Kalabari. Owerre Daba was never in Calabar, because he was born in Old Shipping. When you get to understand reflexively then you will understand, the use of Calabar. A little education, and a little research on record keeping, and you would have been aware of the use by Merchant Ships of Longitude and Latitude in marking off geographical locations. Don't you have any friends from Ke or Minaama? Ask any of them and they will speak their language for you. I told you;, you were fishing for information? I am, of course, not about to give you any; really you should try working for it. You are indeed a very lazy brain. Now look at who is tired of teaching anything. Quite shameful you choose to display your ignorance with such boast instead of asking someone in your family about these things before you come out to write. Then, of course, there is most likely no one in your family of my intelligence and knowledge, who can set you straight, hence you have no choice but to parade your ignorance with such pride, while acting out an indictment of your family. You know, Tom Alabaraba, you are an ass. BTW what does the "baraba" mean in your surname? I dare you, you do not know the answer. |
torusoeri:I am free to ask questions -you suggest? Are you serious? I am a child of Kalabari and of Awome and you are not, and you think I should have questions to ask you on this gibberish you have written? Really? When I say to you that "I am child of Kalabari and of awome the implication is that I was raised in families that own the language, and therefore being taught the language properly, and also challenging you to assert that you are in fact as qualified to speak about the language or the origin. Obviously you are fishing for information; now while I would prove you wrong in just about everything, I will still not disclose any information to you. First of all, your statements of #1-7 betrays you as not intelligent. Consider that I wrote about the etymology of the language, to assert to you about the origin of the migration of the Awome and you are talking about modern day meaning of words. Again consider, did I even use the "gbo" as a standalone word? Do please recognize I used it as a syllable. Do you understand the concept of a syllable within a word? Does 'Gbo' the standalone word has the same phonetic sound as 'gbo' the syllable? Does Omongibo being an elder person take away from the etymology of being spelled as Omongigbo? Rational thinking escapes you. By the way if Tubo is adulterated from Otubo, then what did Atubo get adulterated into? Here is another, if Jubo is an adulterated word from Je bo then why is the name of King Jaja spelled as "Jugbo jugbo aa"? Now to #8: First do get it into your head: Awome my family name is pronounce with long 'a' as in "aaa wo me" while the other word is pronounced with short 'a' as "a wome" though they both have the diacritical marks below the 'o'; but they are two different words. Also awome does not mean children, because children are human beings, yet the Kalabari people also say "Obiri awome" and obiri is not human being. Again you display your ignorance. By inference then Awome is not the same as Awoame. Awo does not have the diacritical mark under the 'o'. Another ignorance you show well, "ame" does not mean group, but I am also not telling you what it means. Now onto #11 -#21: Kalabari was once known as Awome Kalabari and then known as Kengema Kalabari from when Kininyanabo Akeamaoloye ruled. It was called Awome Kalabari when King Awome, the first Bantu King of Kalabari ruled. Interestingly Awome was the grandfather of Opukuroye who was the grandfather of Owerre Daba, who was the great grandfather of So-alabo Akoko of whom I am a descendant. Now you were saying Opukuroye was an Andoni man? If so how was it that he was the grandchild of King Awome who was already in Elemu Kalabari? king Owerre Daba was ruling Kalabari even before the Portuguese met him at Old Shipping (Iwo Kalabari) in late 1599 -this is a written record of the Portuguese. You say the Koro-ame vacated the land of Calabar in the 1640s, but King Owerre Daba was already dead by 1640s, and Akeamaoloye's father Mgbessa was ruling Kalabari by then. Finally one more lie you tell freely: The Koro ame had vacated the land and the Obong of Calabar had moved in to take over the land. The problem with this your lie is that Opukuroye was never in Bantu-land, and the Bantu Community near Duketown is still there. Awome and his people left but the Bantu community still exists till today. The Bantus migrated from Congo Basin and settled there. Do go find out for yourself that King Owerre Daba told the Portuguese that his family group came from a community near Duketown. That Old Shipping was the new location of Kalabari, and that they moved from Obu amafor called Old Kalabari. Now onto #22: Amatemeso was never the Awome Kasso. The Kalabari family had its own deity, and the Kuro-ame had its own deity. Goes to show your level ignorance. Now onto #26: Nobody had even adopted Amakiri. Osimini Alali openly and publicly called him a "slave"; and the younger sister of Osimini named Gbana also came out into the public and called him a Slave, and challenged him to prove to the contrary that he was not a slave which he never could prove. By the way, Gbana gave birth to Ikoru who became the mother of Awoye Kio (aka Odum). Amakiri was a slave of the Kalabari family and was never adopted by any Kalabari child. He was never even allowed to Naturalize as Kalabari, so shut the hell up. Regarding the word Kengema, started to be used from the reign of King Akeamaoloye, I will only say this to you, "go and review my recent profile in life, and you will realize that "a kengema te" Now go figure why Kengema is associated with Kininyanabo Akeamaoloye I am going to stop here and not write anymore because your level stupidity, given the mounds of records in the oxford University Archives about Kalabari, I waste my time. |
shota:Really, I have no idea when this your stupidity will end. I am bloodline descendant of the Awome family which joined the Kalabari family sometime between 1090 and 1100; and I am also bloodline descendant of Prince Awo who was born at about 1761/62 into the Kalabari family, and yet you parade your stupidity that Awome is Awo ame. You see that is what happens to people who do not know the history but try to interpret the little they have instead of doing research. First of all Awome is pronounced (A wor me as in or which reflects a diacritical mark beneath the 'o') and Awo as in Prince Awo is pronounced (A woo as the O in Orange which indicates the absence of a diacritical mark beneath the 'o'). Really were you truly of Kalabari origin you would have understood the differences, but you are not; so you continue to bumble around and deceive yourself into thinking as truly performing some service. Now get this into your head, what you call the Kalabari language is the Kalabari language, formed mostly from the language of the Awome, who originated from the Congo basin where the language was in its purest form known as the Kwa Language. For instance, Omongibo is not the correct word, rather it is Omongigbo, Tubo is actually Tugbo, and Jumo which used to be Jubo is actually Jugbo. These words are found in the Kwa language and not in the Ijaw language. Eighty percent of the Kalabari language is of Kwa origin brought by the Awome family. Because the "g" of the "gbo" is often pronounced in the throat, the concept of diacritical marks were introduced to account for its effects while dropping the "g" altogether. That would mean that Awome would actually be spelled Awgbome, but you would not know that as you are of Igbo origin and so can only interpret the Kalabari words. And you dare to suggest that I a bloodline descendant of the Kalabari founding two-wards (Ende-ame and Kuro-ame) should come and rub shoulders with reef-rafts as you, discussing Kalabari. You are so insolent and don't even know it -what Stupid Punk-ass kid you are |
delishpot:You are welcome! I try to help when I can, as our culture is getting mangled and misinterpreted these days because the people at home do not care to learn it or even attend school any more, and besides, the culture is no longer even taught in the schools these days. The wa yingi is not really worshipped any more as in the olden days. The last High Priest or So Alabo (in Kalabari) of the Awome bloodline that ministered to the affairs of the wa yingi was my great great grandfather, So Alabo Akoko, who was also the elder brother of Chief Dokubo Horsfall (aka Omekwe). She actually returned to wherever she came from (as the legend goes) sometime soon after the Kalabari people had relocated and settled at Old Shipping (also known as Elem Ama or Iwo Kalabari -Elem Kalabari was Obu amafor). Supposedly she left long before even Amakoromo (or Amakiri as he was known) took shelter in the Royal House of Kininyanabo Daba. The Oru Kuro-ereme of Buguma tend to act as if they worship the wa yingi, but they do not even know what the heck they do most times. They operate out of ignorance. Good that you can now tell the meanings of Sonate where So in this word about the heavens (used as a synonym for "God" in deference as not to use the actual name); then of course, the meaning of Isoboye where the So in this word as used means the destiny of the father. Finally as I had written previously, that shota fellow has no idea what he writes about most of the time. Consider for instance that there is no real Kalabari word as "Benibo" spelled with an "i"; rather the word is Benebo derived from the name "Feninbe ene" and a woman born on Feninbe ene is called "Be ene" but truncated to Bene and a man born on Feninbe ene is called "Be ene bo" also truncated to Benebo. Only people who are not informed of the origin of the name write it as Benibo. Well I need no longer advise you of the writing of Shota, he betrays himself. |
delishpot:You are correct "Wa iyingi" means our mother but not in the sense of Biological mother. It is an abstraction of the protectiveness of a mother for her children. In that sense it means "our supreme protective mother". In the biological sense it would be "wa mine iyingibo". The name Akasso or A(wome) Kasso, meaning "Supreme Protector" (of the Awome) was not often used in deference. Also note that the name is Awome Kasso and not Awomina Kasso as most people often call. The Awomes were the Ward that subsequently became known as the Kuro-ame. By the way, the explanation that Shota gave you is just plan wrong. The man does not know what he talks about quite often. He interprets what he hears without really understanding the Kalabari essence of the usage of the words he hears, and so often writes nonsense. Just the other day he wrote that "Benebo" meant someone born on a Friday, which was just ignorant. While on that do please understand that "So" has several meanings: So means Abode of the gods, and So also means destiny of a person. The meaning is contextual. The creator God is often called "Wa temebo" while Tamuno is a generic. Sometimes Kininyanabo is also used to call God but more often used in the old to call the rulers in Kalabari because they had the power of life and death over people. Yet the term was distinctly used differently from "wa temebo" which was unequivocally God Almighty. |
shota:Hey Genius! If I told you anything I know, and then you repeated it later, how could I come out and be blabbing? Indeed, that would put us on the same side. Really, it would be better if you got your information from somewhere else so I could come out and be blabbing when you write nonsense. But seriously are you that mentally indolent as to ask me for information when you are the one doing the research and not me? Is there no one in your family who is my equal in intellect and capability of processing intricate issues as I do Quantum Mechanics, who can give you the information you seek? Oh sorry, my bad! You do not have anybody in your family who is my intellectual equal, that is why you only had the nonsense information I have been discrediting all these while, you mentally lethargic punk-ass kid. |
shota:Hey Genius! My brain can not understand intricate issues (you opine), yet I have been told "LOL.. Uncle Benebo, Go and Teach Physics and make use of the quantum laws that you know better". What can be more intricate than Quantum Mechanics -the most counter-intuitive subject or the the most intuitive task of recalling history? Perhaps it is because I study the counter-intuitive subject that is why I can poke holes in your intuitive arguments, and show you up as the mentally derelict fool that you are. |
shota:I can see, that you are really really mental derelict. The assertion I made to you in the last response is this: If anyone recalls something that disagrees with many other historical accounts and even more so with written documents of events as they occurred, then the history so recalled is false. Did you notice that there is no time-line in the history they recalled. Really you should read my book and learn a few things about how history can be recalled in the context of timeline. Further there is a written record in a diary of an English who was in Bonny when Pere Ekula ate the heart of Amakiri at about 1802. There is an written record in the diary of Captain Hugh Crowe, who was at Bonny at the time at 1770, of the death of King Kalagbaa, the ruler of Kalabari. These records are in the Oxford University Library Archives and people like you can not change them. Do you understand that the nonsense those Idama boys are writing is just that: Nonsense. You are a mentally deficient fool. You are also mentally deprived; Bukuma recently sued the Opu Benibo family and recovered their lands that he (Opu Benibo) tried to take from them fraudulently. So why hasn't the Ke people sued the Kalabri people and recovered the land that you allege rightfully belongs to them? You are also mentally deprived, because Ke and Kula used to charge the Kalabari people waterways commission for using their waterways as access to the seas to sell their goods, not once did the Ke people or the Kula people ever charge the Kalabari people rent for the land. Does that tell you something, you stupid fool? You mean they could charge rent for use of their waterways and would not charge rent for their land. You are really really stupid. But you are right, you are too stupid for me to waste my time with you. Age brings with it wisdom. You should never reference anything that is false, because you make yourself look bad as you show up yourself as mental derelict. |
shota:Hey Genius! Please tell what new information you have presented in the above post of yours that have not been addressed before? Looks like you are beginning to recycle the same things again and again. You may have become a schizophrenic -who believes that if you did the same enough times, a different result will come about. Or may be you are just mentally retarded. So then I should start addressing you as Retard Lazy Brain. Did I not ask you "why there has been no Treaty signed by Amakiri if he was ruling in the 17th Century?" which you could not answer and here you have brought it up again without first answering my question. You are a mental retard |
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we would drink tomi na iru and sing kalabari songs. We would be padi for life