Legalaffairs:
When you decided to rebrand Christian Chukwu to Captain the Super Eagles team in hunt of glory in the 2023 World Cup because he purportedly performed well in the 1990 Nations Cup. That was when you planned to fail, technically and spiritually.

Tinubu is stuck. Tinubu is cluestiff, Tinubu can't learn good morals in old age. His corrupt antecedents are his albatross. When you are not trusted, you are not trusted.

Plus he's so bigoted he can't source for talent to help him out

Hmmm

MaxInDHouse:


OK but it's a free world you can't stop others from learning you may reject but stopping others is impossible!

I will never try to stop anyone, but you also can't stop me from educating people about the truth.

MaxInDHouse:


Never mind, i quoted someone else before you came in so let him respond that's enough for now!

You're looking for easy people to deceive...

That won't happen

We are here to police you...

MaxInDHouse:


Well the one and only organization i know that is fighting against killing is Jehovah's Witnesses that's what made me leave Islam if they don't just engage in wars it won't make any sense to me because i would have concluded that they are scared of death but they move to preach it in every house around them which is the best military strategy i know:

The best form of DEFENSE is ATTACK

Jesus taught his disciples to go and ATTACK the spirit of POLITICS in the minds of people not just sitting down in their place of worship claiming they won't fight wars. Matthew 10:11-13

That's the sharp difference!

Tell us any other thing , but as for this one it is not unique to Jehovah's Witnesses

MaxInDHouse:


Do you know the real meaning of PACIFIST?

Well it simply means you're not on any side but in the case of Jesus he and his followers actually belong to the side of LOVE.
So unlike pacifists Jesus' true disciples are FIGHTING against POLITICS by going to meet people in their home to preach and teach that only God's Kingdom can bring lasting peace and security. Matthew 10:7; 28:19-20

Today you may wonder why all other religions hate Jehovah's Witnesses the truth is that Satan has blinded them {2Corinthians 4:4} and making them think that Jehovah's Witnesses are just pacifists whereas we are real warriors fighting for the truth but since our struggle is not against flesh and blood {Ephesians 6:12} we only use the spiritual weapon {Ephesians 6:17} Christ commanded us to always have with us! Luke 22:36; John 17:17

So we aren't pacifists rather we are Christian soldiers that's why politicians like Adolf Hitler and Vladimir Putin have decided to label us as EXTREMISTS/TERRORISTS

You can invent your own English vocabulary if you like. Until then, people who are against war, and physical violence are called pacifists.

And there are other Christian groups in that boat with your pacifist group.

MaxInDHouse:


JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

The one and only problem of mankind is what Adam and Eve started in the garden of Eden:

POLITICS

This is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil meaning it's not in man's capacity to set standards for his fellow man because man can't direct his own step {Jeremiah 10:23} but when man insisted on doing so the result was disastrous {Ecclesiastes 8:9} because due to his stupidity nepotism won't allow him to do the right thing! Ecclesiastes 4:1

God wanted to save mankind from this curse that's why He established pure worship using a nation (Israel) as an example so that through that nation He will present a perfect human who can rule successfully following His direction without any blunders.

When Jesus walked the earth he formed one GROUP and taught them what they need to know about the evil in politics but Satan the father of politics knew that with Jesus' disciples the secret will be revealed to all people globally immediately Satan began attacking the group! John 15:19

So according to Jesus the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} his true followers will have LOVE among themselves {John 13:34-35} therefore when politics is affecting all other groups and organizations making them to raise weapons against one another {Revelations 6:3-4} Jesus' disciples will be working round the clock to save their own members and enlighten others that there is a mighty spirit evil being behind politics.

But instead of this religionists to pay attention to what Jesus' disciples are saying they will hate them! Matthew 24:9

According to two prophets of God this is what the only true religion will achieve in our time:

In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

The above has been fulfilled by Jehovah's Witnesses today!

Jehovah's Witnesses are not the only pacifist Christian denomination ...so what's your point

I maintain that if what we're seeing as church is what Jesus had in mind,...let me just keep quiet

MindHacker9009:


You were the one that brought up how to solve the problems of sin, so you need to start by showing how Christianity has solve the problems of sin, then I can respond to your question on how Judaism solves the problem of sin.

Nigerians answer questions with questions 🙄

Straybullet:
In revelations 17 the great LovePeddler , babylon the great is shown intoxicating humanity with the wine of her fornication

People are under an influence , like alcohol, or a drug, keeping them in babylon.

Like the question someone just asked me...marriage, burial, ...

These things are what has kept people hooked on babylon


Sunday Sunday church attendance is now an addiction...people are addicted to babylon


Save yourselves from this untoward generation

This is a very difficult thing to do bro...

Plus how am I sure you're correct with this
Are you not shortchanging yourself?

Similar to the previous thread you created

Strafudeen:
Which church do you attend

The confusion on earth is too much

Me sef tire

Michael547:

Meaning that none of the apostles children were followers of christ.
They never heard about christ from their parents mouth.
And even if they did follow christ, their parents was never aware.
Oga do you see that you have a problem?
So why are you here discussing the bible with people if you are really not out of your mind and if you believe that you are a follower of christ?
So where are the family members that Jesus has promised to give to you?

But how can you dash your pikin salvation? Na family inheritance?
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Abeg Kobojunkie has a better point

Michael547:

So we can never know anyone else who worships God.
So how were worshippers of God like paul, peter and Timothy and other able to know each other and work together?

From what he's saying, working together doesn't mean you must be 100 percent sure the person is a true worshipper

Kobojunkie:
God is anti-Religion and Religion is itself a collection of denominations. Whether you are dealing with the religion of Hinduism, Paganism, Islam, Judaism, Politics, Tradition, or even Christianity, they all follow the same structure, which is that they serve as the parent body for many sects/cults/groups grouped under them.

The op is pushing a narrative that true faith in christ is devoid of denominations

achorladey:


Peddling his madness and insanities as usual a religious organization that cannot follow the simple instruction found in Acts 1:8 is the only church of Christ


Just one sculpture is enough where Jesus said the religious organization founded by Russell +/-150 years ago is church of Christ. A scripture is enough.


Cc: newbornmacho

The jehovahs witnesses are a group with much arrogance and little knowledge

achorladey:


The one founded by Charles Taze Russell hijacked later by Rutherford

The jehovahs witnesses are denomination with much arrogance and little knowledge

99thEnemy:


Historically, the Catholic Church was not considered a denomination in the same sense as other Christian denominations. The Catholic Church traces its origins directly to the teachings and ministry of Jesus Christ and the apostles, as described in the New Testament. It was the dominant and unified Christian institution for many centuries before the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century led to the emergence of various Protestant denominations. The term "denomination" is typically used to describe the different branches or groups within Christianity that emerged after the Protestant Reformation, distinguishing them from the Catholic Church.

Unified

The protestant reformation is a 16th century thing.

The coptic church...ie the see of alexandria broke away in 451AD , there was the arian controversy that split the church in half ideologically, nestorius also, the Eastern orthodox broke away in the 11th century...what is the definition of unity again?


JESUS DID NOT START ANY CHURCH

Jesus said he would build his church, and he is doing that.

These churches founded by man are distractions

Michael547:

I have been asking op to land and he has not been able to land. He claims that we can never know anyone else that worships God.
So how did Jesus disciples know themselves and worship God together?
That is what he has not been able to answer.
Hope you are not confusing the word 'church' to mean buildings? Church actually means a congregation of people that gather together to worship God irrespective of their location on earth.

Op are you there?

MaxInDHouse:


Thanks for your time i'm not the abusive type!

Woww..he's not happy to mention the name of his church....why

MaxInDHouse:


No need engaging you because the aggression won't allow you see reasons.

We belong to the church practicing what Jesus taught.

So if you're not interested in what Jesus taught i can't help you!

So you're ashamed of identifying as a member of your church?

MaxInDHouse:


What did Christ teach?

Answer me first.

Is it that church of christ that you're referring to?

Michael547:

What is the True church?

The op has been trying to explain something, you have been trying to trap him and he has skillfully evaded your traps.
Why not allow him land?

MaxInDHouse:


Myself and Michael547 belongs to the church of Christ so that's why i quoted him to buttress his points.

So we know the one and only church that's practicing what Jesus taught!

Which church of christ? The one founded by Thomas Campbell and his son Alexander in America in the 19th century?

MaxInDHouse:


Satan is against the body of Christ so in his effort to discourage seekers of pure worship he has created lots of false religions through his agents (false prophets) so because of all the atrocities they've committed in the name of RELIGION Satan is now using that as an excuse for isolation and many are following him thinking they can actually worship God without physically being with other members just as Paul emphasized:

Let us hold firmly the public declaration of our hope without wavering, for the one who promised is faithful. And let us consider one another so as to incite to love and fine works, not forsaking our meeting together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you see the day drawing near. Hebrews 10:23-25

Perhaps Paul was suggesting the coven of witches where members don't meet in person!

This is intellectual Laziness and dishonesty at the same time.

You have shied away from addressing the serious points the op has raised.

Instead you're turning it into a matter of banter...

Oga...denominations are not of God.

Mention one that is the church...is it Catholic, or Greek orthodox , or coptoc, or Lutheran or pentecostal


Which one of them has not succumbed to the gates of hell with respect to moral failures and manifesting flesh


If you are not capable of the kind of theological sophistication the op and others have been displaying here stay away abeg!


Did Jesus start a church

Do you even know the history of what you call church


If you like don't start seeking the true church and continue dancing waist dance in your dead denominations

BreconHills:


I like your exalted view of the church and this is certainly the position of the NT.

I used to say what passes for church on Sunday is at best a public crusade. I think people mistake the crowds following Jesus for his disciples.

The challenge is we have a low entry bar for church and the level of fellowship/collectiveness is also low - because we are bargaining and negotiating with the flesh. It should be high bar, high fellowship/collective.

I suggest however that restoration not focus on sounding a clarion call to the world but first building the model that others can be invited into. God will bring those in whom he is working and add them to his kingdom himself.

You have wisdom on these issues bro.
You should comment on these issues often.

Kobojunkie:
Wrong! The roman church were already up against the African church among others as at the time that Constantine brought the churchian movement, ruled over by those Jesus Christ said were Dogs and should not be handed that which is Holy - Matthew 7 vs 6 -, to the table in Nicea. At Nicea, what was made clear was that the movement was not of Jesus Christ at all. He had made clear that He was sent only to the Lost Sheep of Israel by His Father, the God of Israel. But what Constantine sealed at that occasion was rather a movement ruled over by the Dogs whom Jesus Christ warned would trample and ruin His Holy name. Religion of Christianity is indeed the system of the AntiChrist which the Prophets and Jesus Christ warned against.

I use the roman church to mean the primeval Catholic Church.

All in communion with Rome are included including the patriarchate of alexandria, antioch, Jerusalem, Rome and constantinople

bobestman:
As the light keep shinning many of you keep waking up. Churchism was created by the Romans. They stopped the disciples house to house gathering and started hunting for them till they killed them. They changed the laws, created a messiah and false image and start venerating those they killed. They later start building churches and told you God is their. That is how you started going to church. Church is circe. Like the messiah, Peter affirmed that your body is the true temple where God is

Denominations are not church like the op said

I agree with the op.

How can these denominations be the church?

Which of these denominations isnfree from evil? And if they are not free how can they be the church since Jesus said the gates of hell cannot prevail against the church?

The gates of hell has prevailed against the
Denominations in the issue of morals so they can't be the church

Straybullet:
You may contribute your thoughts civilly.

The point at issue here is whether christian denominations and church groups are the church of Jesus christ .

I say no.

Denominations are not of God but of man.

And I will show that even as early as the acta of the apostles, denominations were already taking root and were not from God.

The church of Jesus is spiritual and divine.

Denominations are earthly and carnal.

It started from the first denomination...the roman catholics.

Then the Eastern orthodox

Then it spread in the west with Martin Luther reformation

Then you got the ansbaptists, the Anglicans, the calvinists, the Methodists etc etc until the pentecostal


Meanwhile all along Jesus has been with his true church, a.dpiritual and not a physical organisation.

I agree with your submissions

You will not see the religious my church said, my papa said people here.

This is the whole truth

Denominations are not of God

Straybullet:
Body odour is treatable boy bello, except those caused by demon infestation, for those you need to go to odumejes church in onitsha.

Swallow your pride and go, let him slam you on a few chairs and the demons will go with their odour and you'll be free...useles legislator that stinks like pit latrine

The useless idiot called bello Elrufai is a smaller problem than his idiot father...