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My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by klez(m): 11:32am On Jun 16, 2008
Why Won't Spend A Kobo On A Zinox

angry - Actually that's not entirely accurate - I won't even take one if offered for free. (At least I would hesitate to take it). I have been using this N132,000 (yes it was a freaking lot for a Pentium M 1.6ghz, 256mb ram 40gb, DVD/CDRW, 15" in February 2007! But the owner bought it without seeking other info first) rather regularly for some time. I thought should vent my anger and frustration and also warn anyone who's reading of what you expect when you behave stupidly "patriotic"

Well first and foremost the build quality is awful, the thing creaks every time I carry it with one hand, the palm rests and touchpad buttons have faded from not upto 7mths total use. The thing was awfully slow when it arrived (with Win XP Starter Edition for Africa - seriously why do they insult us so?) and upon upgrading to XP Professional, I couldn't find drivers anywhere, not on their site or on the cd it shipped with, had to go to the originel oem chassis manufacturer to get drivers! The screen colours are off, my 7yrs old desktop monitor has better colour. The bios is archiac (it doesn't supply enough info to the OS), and the heat management, for such low-end components, is abysmal. It fries my legs everytime I play Enemy engaged or age of mythology. Some parts actually like they're going to deform. That's just sad.

The only thing i t had going for it was battery life, it used to last nearly 4hrs on a charge with screen brightness turned down and Wifi off. But now that's also gone, the laptop now lasts only 1hr 45mins or thereabouts ( after chopping over 2hrs of electricity to charge!!??@). Ubuntu show me the battery is at 39 % capacity meaning that 60% of the cell died within a year. WHAT!!!! How's that for build quality. Patriotic my ***. I'd won't buy any Zinox even recommend it to anybody. If you have substantial reason or proof to shift this view of mine, please present. Seriously, this thing was a rip off.

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Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by DoubleN(m): 2:28pm On Jun 19, 2008
What did you expect from a Zinox?It is always better to patronize OEM's. Just the other day i heard of a Haier thermocool Laptop beig Sold!
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by klez(m): 9:22pm On Jun 19, 2008
Just extra details: the model is AL55, the owner bought it as offered to Unizik staff in Awka.
Contacted their online support today asking for replacement charger and battery (I believe the charger destroyed the battery), will post their response here.
Watch this space.
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by klez(m): 8:27pm On Jun 24, 2008
Well, I contacted the rubbish company through their online support service at their website (the laptop model i use isn't even listed there!) where they boast that they will solve your problem in under 24hrs. Well it's been more than 72 and nothing. -
Ticket No. ZinoxN5074 -
"Either the ticket does not exist or no solution has been provided for it yet.
Please check back soon."

angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry

P.S. the laptop now lasts just over an hr after a full charge of 2 hrs.

On another note: Is it possible to sue these people? I hate it when people are cheated because of "apparent" undecided lack of current I.T. knowledge.
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by Mustay(m): 8:53pm On Jun 28, 2008
Why not change the battery?


Search the internet on tips for laptop battery maintenance.

It's very useful especially for people in our country without adequate supply
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by dnative(m): 9:11pm On Jun 28, 2008
My guy - na today.

Are folks just realising that there is nothing like a Nigerian-manufactured computer. What we have in Zin*!, Om*t?k, Be>a etc are nothing but glorified assembly lines. They are just overhyped PC cloning centers putting together completely knocked down components shipped in from Asia. Same stuff your regular Otigba guy is doing. Only difference is that they have friends in high places that lobby for friendly policies to be promulgated. Policies such as 'every state/federal computing project must procure Z/O/B computers for at least 80% of PC requirements.  If these companies were simply left to compete with the HPs, IBMs, Dells in a free terrain, they won't be in business as at now.

Now I have nothing against promoting computer manufacturing in Nigeria, but please let us differentiate between a company assembling shipped components from the far east from a company that is putting serious money into R&grin to promote local computer manufacturing in Nigeria. I would expect companies with sincere interest in computer manufacturing development to look into manufacturing and programming eeprom for bios, printed circuit boards for motherboards, interface cards etc. I believe Nigeria has adequate capacity to delve into these areas and sustain consistent development. Such foundation would go a long way in building adequate capacity for computer manufacture in Nigeria.

Let's see what these companies for what they are at the moment. Computer assemblers riding on the sentiment of 'we-need-our-own-Nigerian-made-computer, we-need-our-own-keyboards-with-naira-sign'. My 2 cents.

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Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by busygirl(f): 9:41pm On Jun 28, 2008
try other models,like hp and sony, compaq, those are very good ones. personally, i can't purchase that kind of stuff. . . .naija made laptops lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

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Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by Seun(m): 9:59pm On Jun 28, 2008
I think my HP laptop now lasts about 8 minutes on a full charge, It's not made in Nigeria. How about that?

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Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by boloqua(f): 10:03pm On Jun 28, 2008
The potency of a battery diminishes over time. So, it depends on how long u've been using the battery. Prob u should change the battery.
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by debosky(m): 10:07pm On Jun 28, 2008
What are you talking about Dnative? is it not ASUS in Taiwan that assembles and makes parts for the HP's and IBM's of this world? What is so 'OEM' about those ones anyways? is your harddrive made by HP/Dell and co? Is it not made somewhere in Asia as well?

My sympathies klez for your experiences with this ONE (it should be noted that this is simply ONE experience) Zinox product, but I'm sure without doing too rigorous an internet search, you would find even worse horror stories for the HP's, Dells and Acers of this world. Your one experience might have burned you, but I'm sure there must be more to the story that meets the eye - one faulty product does not mean the entire company isn't worth it.
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by boloqua(f): 10:12pm On Jun 28, 2008
There's this guy i'm seeing now. He's 33 and i'm 21. He likes me a lot but the prob is i don't really like him.
I'm scared of breaking up with him but i feel it's something i must do. I need ur candid advice pls.
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by DisGuy: 10:24pm On Jun 28, 2008
boloqua:

There's this guy i'm seeing now. He's 33 and i'm 21. He likes me a lot but the prob is i don't really like him.
I'm scared of breaking up with him but i feel it's something i must do. I need your candid advice please.

call their HQ-men HQ that is and ask for a replacement, you're too young to be dating a 33 year old man babes!

klez, what about the guaranty or warranty it came, just wait a bit for the customer service if they are of no help then, stuff it

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Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by Nobody: 10:29pm On Jun 28, 2008
boloqua:

There's this guy i'm seeing now. He's 33 and i'm 21. He likes me a lot but the prob is i don't really like him.
I'm scared of breaking up with him but i feel it's something i must do. I need your candid advice please.

Get a Zinox laptop with 11 yrs warranty and forget about that Guy. Too old.

But why would seun put this on the homepage? respect them man even though they suck.

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Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by stannesi(m): 10:56pm On Jun 28, 2008
@Seun
When your laptop is plugged in, and your battery is full, the laptop does not pass the electricity through the battery anymore. It routes around it rather than continually charging, and draining the battery (which is what usually kills batteries)
maybe that is what happend

Laptops batteries tend to lose their quality quickly when you’re constantly looking for the nearest power outlet to charge up. little tips. without explanation to them to keep your battery going for as long as possible?
1. Defrag regularly
2. Dim your screen
3. Cut down on programs running in the background.
4. Cut down external devices
5. Add more RAM
6. Run off a hard drive rather than CD/DVD
7. Keep the battery contacts clean
8. Hibernate not standby
9. Keep operating temperature down
10. Set up and optimize your power options (e.g selectin the ‘max battery’ for maximum effect).
11. Don’t multitask
12. Prevent the Memory Effect
13. Get yourself a more efficient laptop, lol

@boloqua
Why u dey fear, his he a serial killer, just do what pleases u, and enjoy your life, or u can date me wink
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by thehomer: 11:03pm On Jun 28, 2008
Also you should try to use A/C power when available that is avoid running on battery power whenever you can
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by reindeer: 11:42pm On Jun 28, 2008
well, i wonder why a good bank like GTB wil continue using OMATEK computers at alltheir branches if they are as messed up as you guys say
I think made in nija things are not as bad as they are painted by nigerians themselves.
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by debosky(m): 12:20am On Jun 29, 2008
reindeer:

well, i wonder why a good bank like GTB wil continue using OMATEK computers at alltheir branches if they are as messed up as you guys say
I think made in nija things are not as bad as they are painted by nigerians themselves.

don't mind Dnative. . .I guess its the 'government regulation' making GTB buy those 'useless' computers too cheesy
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by uspry1(f): 12:20am On Jun 29, 2008
Hmmm! I learn something about Nigeria-made laptop/computer! Sound interesting! Remember I am not Nigerian.

If I was in your shoe discovering bad Zinox laptop, i would order parts replacement such as laptop motherboard, hard disk drive, CPU processor, etc.

Then finally the last part, install operating system: Ubuntu on Zinox laptop beautiful and breezy! Do you all agree with me?
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by cooldude62(m): 1:00am On Jun 29, 2008
please encourage Nigerian mades!
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by niyyie(m): 8:05am On Jun 29, 2008
This is an isolated case that should not be used as evidence to scandalize all the companies that have taken the bold step to assemble computers in Nigeria. Toyota started from somewhere. Today, they're giving Ford and other western automobile manufacturers REAL competition.

Nigerian IT manufacturers can have a rocky start but with the support of Nigerians, they will get better and ultimate lead in this part of the world.
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by dnative(m): 8:43am On Jun 29, 2008
I'll start with these two links:

http://www.omatekcomputers.com/techsupport.html

http://www.zinoxtechnologies.com/ - Check the support section

Tech support is not available from any of the links posted above even though there are clearly indicated support sections on these websites. Now for the two biggest 'computer manufacturers' in Nigeria, does this tell you anything about their strategy. I mean if they are rolling out thousands and hundreds of thousands of units monthly or yearly and the dear customers using these units don't even have the smallest degree of self help available (drivers download, knowledge base, electronic manuals) for these products, it could only mean two things - either the units are so perfect the users won't need any support as they'll be trouble free or the vendors don't give two farthings. Your guess is as good as mine.

What are the things that stands out to you from these sites - sales,sales,sales, awards, awards, awards, proudly Nigerian etc.  What thoughts have been given to the end users that are the ones using these products. Or is it that they have other preferred support channels available to the users that is not obvious on these web sites. Now one significant ethical rules on website development - if your website or a link is not ready - don't publish it. Nobody cares to see a 'coming soon' link or one under construction especially coming from a top computer 'manufacturing company'.

GTB using omatek computers in all their branches - I doubt. Personally I have used GTB for the past 8 years and till date know people in IT there. So you know, omatek started up as an SME partnership funded by GTB and Zenith years ago. If you see a significant number of their desktop units at GTB, you know the history. Does GTB uses Omatek servers as well for their backend mission critical business applications ?  - go figure. I guess the guys at GTB are wise enough to know where to draw the line between the 'buy nigeria' patriotism and sustaining a mission critical business line.

Saying ASUS manufactures parts for IBM, Dell, HP is simply begging the issue. Is it news that these are companies that spends millions of $$ in R&grin yearly. Before IBM, Dell, HP approaches an ASUS to manufacture any part, they have in their kitty years of R&grin due diligence on what they want right down to the circuit level technology wise and how these would fit into their bigger technology scheme. It makes nothing but ecomonic sense to have electronic companies like ASUS manufacture their specifications as they have the capacity. Don't let your judgement be clouded that the IBMs, Dells and HPs of these worlds are simply doing nothing but slapping together an ASUS motherboard here, a Seageate harddrive there, a phoenix bios there - and bang there you go - your age long trusted IBM computer. It goes far well beyond that my guy.

For folks that want to get my points twisted - I've said before in my earlier post and I'll say again. I'm an advocate of building the right capacity for computer manufacturing in Nigeria. This has to go beyond bringing in CKD components and assembling - I doubt if that really adds value to our technological capacity. Imagine if we have serious capacity dedicated to just researching and development of programming logic for and manufacturing printed circuit boards. Aren't we all familiar with those pictures of young women in China, Japan etc working in lines rolling out electronic components. They have gone ahead because they have invested in clusters of specalists companies manufacturing different electronic components which have now added up over the years.

Imagine the multiplier effect on our technological capacity if we have companies investing in R&grin to start manufacturing just say computer casings alone, another one manufacutring power cables, another manufacturing PSUs, fans. With such in place and sustained over a period of time, it won't be long before it all adds up together and companies like Omatek or Zinox won't have to look to the far east for CKD components. And it won't be long before this capacity moves up the lines into manufacturing more high end electronic components.

So please let's recognize what we have at the moment for what they are, I'm not saying they haven't tried but if they are in this business terrain, let them deliver the right services expected of them and not rely on the sentiment of this-is-a-nigerian-made-product-turn-the-blind-eye-to-all-inadequacies-and-just-buy-Nigeria. That the world is a global village is no longer news, why can't we have the capacity and quality good enough to start enroaching into other foreign markets as they are doing ours. The government has been quite charitable with enough support and incentives for these companies. I'm saying they cannot solely rely on goverment charity as a long term strategy for development.  The sad truth till date is that a significant portion of these companies turnover still comes from sales to government establishment and for someone familiar with the nigerian projects bidding/tender arena, you'll know that merit hardly takes the front seat here. Let these companies improve on their product offerings to such an extent that an average individual or private company going out there to buy a workstation, laptop or server is actually seriously considering omatek or zinox as a top option. Is that happening at the moment, I'll leave that as thoughts for you to ponder on.

Availability of support locally is meant to be an area where these companies should capitalize upon as an advantage over the foreign based manufacturers. Buy our products because we have extensive local support available - but is this the case? the web links I indicated earlier says a lot about this strategy.

So understand where I'm coming from and the points I'm making. Don't attack me, attack my points with your points.

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Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by dragnet: 10:49am On Jun 29, 2008
dnative, say no more ! I concur !!
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by Anuliph(f): 6:02pm On Jun 29, 2008
Compaq is not a brand of computers.
My friend had used zinox and dumped it coz it was messing with her school work, but she uses acer now and so do i, which is ok. but i would go for hp anyday.
So i advise you to just sell off the laptop, top some money n get a worthy brand.
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by BluMalam(m): 8:15pm On Jun 29, 2008
The thing was awfully slow when it arrived (with Win XP Starter Edition for Africa - seriously why do they insult us so?)

Are you serious? Never heard.
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by romeo(m): 8:53pm On Jun 29, 2008
I hope all these people writing Zinox off are not working for the competitors? No computer is perfect!!

And the person complaining about the government policies is just plain ignorant, Your location is UK? check how their government help their companies to grow! Virgen Nigeria bought aeroplanes from Brazil the other time wink, go and check the history of that company that sold those aircrafts to Nigeria.

I am not saying we should accept substandard laptops from Zinox in the name of patriotism but they need our support too to become our own version of DELL check the history of dell too
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by stannesi(m): 9:59pm On Jun 29, 2008
Zinox his ok, dere's always a room 4 improvment, nobody his perfect,. if dey are, why do u think deres troubleshooting, ?
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by Wallie(m): 11:57pm On Jun 29, 2008
I can’t really speak for Zinox but I do know that all computer manufacturers are the same; that goes for Sony, HP, Dell, Apple, Toshiba, IBM e.t.c

They all spec out the chips that they want from the chip makers usually in Asia. So in terms of hardware, OEMs have access to most of the same component manufacturers. But what differentiates one OEM from the next, apart from software, is the tolerance level on the chips they’re willing to accept. This is probably where Zinox is going wrong because a wider tolerance level means that they get the chips for cheaper, unfortunately it also means that the reliability will be very low.

On the issue of battery, all batteries will lose their ability to hold their charge after awhile but I guess the question will be how long is “awhile”.
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by Kobojunkie: 5:50am On Jun 30, 2008
cooldude62:

please encourage Nigerian mades!


Encourage Nigerian made, not by giving false glory but by joining the band of those that push companies to do better. Dell alone get's at least hundreds of customer calls from all over the world; people complaining about even the smallest things. You know what that has done?? That has worked to HELP dell improve on it's products and build it's brand to where it is today.

If anyone really wants to help make Nigerian brands better, it is to call in to companies to make sure they hear your complaints. And know that you, the consumers have issues and you are waiting for them to respond and do better. That is how you build Nigerian brands. Silencing those who have complaints only make Nigerian brands off limits to those who want to know that they are not just dots and zeros for the companies. I don't think anyone in their right mind would want to spend thousands of hard earned money to knowingly buy low quality product all in the name of helping build Nigerian brands. I believe it is up to people to make sure these companies know of what they really want and what problems exist so they can fix them.

The @Poster seems to have a genuine complaint there. He does say he has tried contacting the company and has yet to get any real feedback. If we want to help, best is to inform Zinox that it is seriously slacking in the area of customer service. Have you ever been to the companys site yet?? You should check it out. Does not even look like a real business site, let alone a site for a company that puts together and sells computers. Small mom and pop computers stores here have better. If you know the country, please register my complaint. I have been checking that site for some time now and I have to say, to date, it is just as disappointing as it was 2 years ago.
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by dnative(m): 10:18am On Jun 30, 2008
It's good someone one else is at least looking at this issue dispassionately - beyond the name calling, beyond the buy Nigerian mentality.  Why are folks wont to say 'nobody's perfect, let's encourage homegrown, let's not scandalize these companies, they must be detractors working for the competitors' etc. This is not about perfection, this is not about Nigerian not encouraging their own. This is about pointing out a seriously flawed service delivery model. This is about highlighting the fact that Nigerian companies needs to pay a whole lot more attention to customer service and support. You can't ship out thousand of your units regularly and not have a commensurate support structure to back this up. What does it take to put up a self service knoweldge base on a  web site, what does it take to put up a support FAQ section on your site, what does it take to have the basic electronic manuals available on your website for download, what does it take to have the device drivers available on  your website. For a company that has spent millions of $$ to setup, this can't be rocket science.  Why are they paying so very little attention to a very important part of the business. And you guys want to tell me that can be overlooked because it's a Nigerian company and they won't get there in one day. Cmon mediocrity don't have to be encouraged in name of supporting our own.

And for crying out loud about how the UK government help their own, that government definitely do not encourage mediocrity in the name of supporting their own. Standards are laid down and those standards are not waived in the name encouraging homegrown. I guess they know the importance of getting that right and being able to have products and services that can hold their weight in any world market.  Calling me ignorant is really 'cheap' - but not surprising, folks that have no meaningful points to say resorts to that. Why generalising with a check this, check that, come specific with your points on how those references made have any bearing on the issue at hand, then we can have a more healthy discourse. So what Virgin brought planes from a Brazilian company, and you want me to go check the history, you gotta be kidding me. Make your point here and stop dropping blind references.

I'm done with this for now. I'm sure these companies would take note and improve on their service and support structure from the critique made here.

Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by AdamuW: 10:48am On Jun 30, 2008
As far as I'm concerned, Dnative has said it all. For us to develop in any field in this country we have to be ruthless in making sure our services and products are of the highest standard. Customer feedback and support is key to this. And we have a long way to go in this country regarding that.

It is more patriotic to demand high standards than just to say 'Let's support it because it's Nigerian'. Nigerian or not, it has to be the best it can be or at least aim to do so. Simple.

We shouldn't let wrong placed emotions cloud our judgement on this. The Japanese didn't, neither did the Germans. Look at the quality of their products from Sony, Honda through to BMW.

Before anyone jumps in and starts talking about a Sony Vaio laptop they have which doesn't work, don't because you are missing the point.
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by cecegorz(m): 11:07am On Jun 30, 2008
quote from Double N
What did you expect from a Zinox?It is always better to patronize OEM's. Just the other day i heard of a Haier thermocool Laptop beig Sold!

How do you mean its better to patronize OEM's?
For clarity, all Branded hardware system dealers are called OEM's (Original Equipment manufacturers) by the Software manufacturers. These OEM's include Zinox, Dell, Omatek, HP, etc.
However, you have to understand that all the OEM's do not manufacture the hardwares in the actual sense. What they do is that they purchase all the components, assemble them together and put their name on them as a mark of Integrity. So, when you buy a laptop/desktop or any system from them, they take responsibility for whatever happens to any of the components because they put it together, that's why they can give you warranty unlike your guy at Otigba that cannot take responsibility for the one he cloned for you because he doesn't even know the reliability of the components himself.

But like every other thing that is done in this country, either we don't have any value for standards or we are not generally prepared to pay for genuine equipments.
While DELL or HP will make sure that all his components are set to highest quality, you may not say the same of our local counter parts. This brings our Standards Organization of Nigeria (SON) into the picture. Those guys have failed this country woefully. They are the ones to keep our local OEM's on their toes to deliver the best all the time.
Check out what NAFDAC is doing in the food/drug field, SON too should wake up and earn their pay.
Re: My Experience With A Zinox Laptop by A40(m): 5:13pm On Jun 30, 2008
With products like HP,Dell and my favorite Apple i cant believe people will still go around buying Zinox tongue

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