This topic has been created to look at the common trend of employing Nigerians who attended foreign institutions such as in the UK, USA France and others and offering them attractive pay packages when compared to what is being offered Graduates from the Local institutions such as UNILAG, UNIBEN, OAU.

Is the quality of graduates being produced by foreign institutions that much better than what you have in Nigeria so much so there will be a disparity in the salary being offered.

is there any justification for this, someone who attended LSE (London school of economics) is he that much better than the UNILAG graduate, or is there more than meets the eye and this is just another example of  colonial mentality

The Local graduates are recently becoming disillusionedwith this scenario and have voiced their opinions as such,

what do you guys think, please all views are welcome.

You sef answer this question for yourself.

Harvard graduate and Unilag graduates are they made of the same stuff??

Abeg there is no room for comparison.

My only grouse will be with the pay slip. But me kinda thinks the foreign grads deserve more pay sha. Is it beans to have a first class degree from a world renowned university??

Esss:

You sef answer this question for yourself.

Harvard graduate and Unilag graduates are they made of the same stuff??

Abeg there is no room for comparison.

My only grouse will be with the pay slip. But me kind of thinks the foreign grads deserve more pay sha. Is it beans to have a first class degree from a world renowned university??

abi

it is fucking common sense, innit?!

Imperial College and Ado Ekiti university or Cornell University and Ogun State University?

until our Educational System in Nigeria improves tremendously, there wont be any basis for comparison!!!!POINT BLANK

What I was actually trying to analyse here was the great disparity in salary or pay incomes, even though a nigerian graduate can be identified as capable of doing the job he will be offered an erstwhile lower salary than if it was offered to a foreign graduate,

the foreign schools are not being compared with the Local schools. That is not the argument

The point is a position should have a certain amount of salary attributed to it, irrespective of who is capable of doing the job, Nigerian graduate or foreign graduate, if a nigerian graduate os offered the job then why is he offered a lower salary than his foreign counterpart, I mean he must have deminstrated the skills required during the interview process and hence he fits the position sought

The point is a position should have a certain amount of salary attributed to it, irrespective of who is capable of doing the job,

Says who? And why? Some employees are more efficient than others, and deserve more pay.
It is a fact that Nigerian graduates earn more than Hnd Holders for the same jobs. Do you complain?

HND and BSC or masters are not the same degree, to use HND as a basis you will have to compare with a graduate from abroad who has an HND as well,

I think  has a point. i just got promoted to a position in my unit at work. At the same time, two expertrates ( with certs from foreing universities) were also employed, at the same level (experience & accademic qualifcn) with me. The funny aspect of it is not just that they are understudying me ( ie i train them on what to do) but are paid 20 times what  they pay me.
Is this not madness?

@fbajomo,
I think your concerns can be answered correctly if ONLY there is a valid RESEARCH to back the answers.
My cousin had some little problem in nigeria when he returned as everyone just wanted to "test" or "try" the foreign graduate, excepting him to falter or mess up at the slightest opportunity!

Since there's no evidence (statistically) any answer will be inconclusive. But in my opinion no difference, depending on who you are dealing with, i've met people from nigeria universities doing very very well and likewise foreign graduates who know their onion!! Capise

very funny Esss

Of course foreign graduates are FAR better.

They're not necessarily better. Many are good, I mean, definitely they've had access to a better rounded education, but there are also thousands of Nigerian graduates that know their salt. It's just that Nigerians attach a heavy importance, almost obsession with foreign 'anything', and expect by default the foreign trained graduate to be better. Which is a shame cos you'll see nigerian graduates with lots of experience and skill being put under newly graduated foreign graduates just because of the school they went to.

what do you mean by 'that much better'?
Are you agreeing that they are better but not by a huge margin. . .?

apart from middle management positions
I though new graduate start off on the same scale
i've been going through the 'highest paying bank thread' and there is
nothing to suggest some people get paid more due to their foreign degree.

buchulz:

I think has a point. i just got promoted to a position in my unit at work. At the same time, two expertrates ( with certs from foreing universities) were also employed, at the same level (experience & accademic qualifcn) with me. The funny aspect of it is not just that they are understudying me ( ie i train them on what to do) but are paid 20 times what they pay me.
Is this not madness?

Are these expatriates Nigerians or foreigners?

I think  has a point. i just got promoted to a position in my unit at work. At the same time, two expertrates ( with certs from foreing universities) were also employed, at the same level (experience & accademic qualifcn) with me. The funny aspect of it is not just that they are understudying me ( ie i train them on what to do) but are paid 20 times what  they pay me.
Is this not madness?

In bold are some of the reasons they are paid 20times more.

I think this has to be put in perspective.

1) Those with foreign degrees vs those with local degrees

2) Those with foreign degrees and/or experience vs those with local degrees and/or experience.

For (1), we would be assuming both would be applying for entry level.

It is obvious that the academic experience in foreign universities is far better than the local universities hence you are more likely to get a better candidate by hiring someone with a foreign degree than one with a local degree. Hence the premium you pay for foreign degree holders is well justified.

For (2), an employer would have to set a list of criteria for a job and test candidates against this list.

More often than not, the individual with the foreign degrees and/or experience would excel more in a professional and "doing the best work" environment as he has functioned at the optimal environment for this. So in most cases, the foreign degrees and/or experience holder would be most qualified or have the best potential than a local so would be paid more. Even if the local is hired due to lack of other quality candidates, most times (NOT all), you get someone with a mentality of "that is good enough, we don try" instead of "is this the best work ever done" hence the lower attraction to locals by employers.

But if a local over time develops and demonstrate all the right qualities for the role that a foreign degrees and/or experience holder has then I don't see why he can not achieve the same remuneration.

For example, I have seen the CVs of some people that graduated from Nigerian universities with and without work experience, some on Nairaland. Based on the structuring of a simple thing such as a CV, I can guarantee you I would not hire them because their attempt is just appalling. Their professionalism level is just low.

When friends move to UK and complain to me that they kind find a job despite their experience working for big companies in Nigeria, the first thing I ask for is their CV. And immediately I get it, I ALWAYS see why.

All schools are not created equal. Even in the US, graduates of top schools earn a lot more than their counterparts from lower rated schools (tier 1 vs. tier 4). It’s a basic question of demand vs. supply; those that are highly sought after will tend to make more money.

I met a few people that did their undergrad at Unilag and graduate degree here that are doing extremely well. You have to understand that employers are investing in you and chances are that they will get a better ROI on a Harvard grad than a tier 4 grad. Note that I’m not saying that going to Harvard makes you smarter or better than the next person but it says that you’re smart enough to get in.

You have to look at the disparity in salaries between tier 1 and tier 4 MBA or Law grads to truly appreciate the difference the school you attend makes. Most of the top law firms in the US will only interview candidates from the top 25 laws schools. They don’t even want to hear from you if you don’t fall in that category except if you’re truly exceptional. Guess what…those top law firms pay about $165,000 per year while a law graduate from a tier 4 school earns about $60,000 on average.

@Sagamite, u said it all esp. with resume. I remember lastweek when someone posted a job notification for people to apply in one bank here in NL. People were attaching their resumes and I looked at dem and voiced out that the structure of their resumes are very poor. What did I get? Insults that I think I know all and if I do, why am I still looking 4 a job. 4nny enough, I aint looking 4 a job. I didnt say am a professional CV writer as I mentioned in that thread but one of da advantages of living/skooling abraod is that you learn this things and have professional people to help you.

Sagamite:

I think this has to be put in perspective.

1) Those with foreign degrees vs those with local degrees

2) Those with foreign degrees and/or experience vs those with local degrees and/or experience.

For (1), we would be assuming both would be applying for entry level.

It is obvious that the academic experience in foreign universities is far better than the local universities hence you are more likely to get a better candidate by hiring someone with a foreign degree than one with a local degree. Hence the premium you pay for foreign degree holders is well justified.

For (2), an employer would have to set a list of criteria for a job and test candidates against this list.

More often than not, the individual with the foreign degrees and/or experience would excel more in a professional and "doing the best work" environment as he has functioned at the optimal environment for this. So in most cases, the foreign degrees and/or experience holder would be most qualified or have the best potential than a local so would be paid more. Even if the local is hired due to lack of other quality candidates, most times (NOT all), you get someone with a mentality of "that is good enough, we don try" instead of "is this the best work ever done" hence the lower attraction to locals by employers.

But if a local over time develops and demonstrate all the right qualities for the role that a foreign degrees and/or experience holder has then I don't see why not he can not achieve the same remuneration.

For example, I have seen the CVs of some people that graduated from Nigerian universities with and without work experience, some on Nairaland. Based on the structuring of a simple thing such as a CV, I can guarantee you I would not hire them because their attempt is just appalling. Their professionalism level is just low.

When friends move to UK and complain to me that they kind find a job despite their experience working for big companies in Nigeria, the first thing I ask for is their CV. And immediately I get it, I ALWAYS see why.

Said it all.
Also looked at the CV's and def wouldn't employ from the one's posted.
Mistakes and lies told was so glaring dat it's untrue.

@jay bee, u cracking me up ooooo

PLS,THESE IS NOT AN ISSUE,EVEN HERE(ABROAD)IT HAPPENS COS U CAN'T COMPARE THEM.
DISCUSS SOMETHING ELSE

In as much as environment affects our life, the environment in operation abroad is friendly and condusive to learning when compare with Nigeria. but, the die hard spirit of an average Nigeria student should be commended, even with all the challenges they still struggle to make it. that is kudos to them.