davidylan:
We already have video evidence . . . sorry. The IDF seems to have learnt a lot of lessons . . . they know the UN is nothing but a toothless arab tool.

By the way, the video has been on the news and Youtube for days . . . where have you been? 

davidylan:
What has he said that is new? Did he also remind us that HAMAS broke UN conventions by stockpiling arms and firing at innocent Israeli civilians? Has he mentioned the breaking of UN conventions on using civilians as human shields?

Its funny that Israel alone seems to be the only country breaking UN conventions.

davidylan:
4 Play, you thought sagamite could be relied upon for accuracy?   Anything will do for the anti-Israel lobby . , 

davidylan:
For the 19 years Egypt had Gaza they never for once thought to cry about an "occupation".

If you look at the logo of Islamic Jihad, the entire land of Israel plus Gaza and the West Bank is indicated as "occupied". That should tell you this problem is not about land grabbing but about a religious ideology that wont rest until the jews are destroyed . . . Europe will be next. Thank God the US has a strong army . . .

In 1920 this same "palestinians" revolted when the French tried to separate them from Northern Syria. 

davidylan:
So much "love"

davidylan:

Lying dolt. Your evidence of the false claims you made about Gaza's expenditure is an irrelevant quote from the UN?

No sane person on earth will challenge my claim, that Gazans enjoy a living standard that is better than most Africans including Nigeria.

Only idiots like you cite irrelevancies - is there a universal poverty line? No. 15% of Americans live below the poverty line, poverty is relative to each society. Poverty in Gaza is measured only in relation to Gaza, not in relation to Nigeria

As for Gazans depending on food aid. What an idiot. Palestinians get more per capita in aid than Nigeria gets per capita from oil . .  . . put that in your skull, you blockhead! Fact is, they are better off on the aid they receive than the oil revenues we receive.

Idiot, you are comparing a territory whose public budget is a multiple of 10 to Nigeria's, what a naif.

davidylan:

That colossal idiot called Sagamite should see this. Palestinians received $300 per capita in 2006. Nigeria's Govt revenue, to match the Palestinian level per capita, would have to be $45bn!

Saying that 80% of Palestinians are in receipt of aid is besides the point, it's an act of brazen idiocy. Why, because the level of the aid itself might make aid recipients better off than non-aid recipients. In the UK for instance, people on Govt aid are demonstrably better off than working people in Africa. Mr Sagamite, you are utterly clueless.

davidylan:

@David

You know Sagamite's famous Norwegian doctors? Dr Mads Gilbert and Erik Fosse.Turns out they are both long time pro-Palestinian campaigners and purveyors of vitriol against Israel.

Dr Gilbert admits he doesn't seperate medicine from politics. This is his response to a Norwegian newspaper's question on 9-11

Q:Do you supports the terrorist attack on the United States?
A :Terror is a bad weapon, but the answer is yes, within the context I have mentioned”

This is who this moonbat called Sagamites cites as objective. Wonders will never end. 

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=35&x_article=1580

davidylan:

Remember that UN school? Turns out the headmaster builds rockets. .  .not for NASA but for Islamic Jihad

By day, Awad al-Qiq was a respected science teacher and headmaster at a United Nations school in the Gaza Strip. By night, Palestinian militants say, he built rockets for Islamic Jihad.

http://www.reuters.com/article/middleeastCrisis/idUSL05686115

David, you dey mind Sagamite. He suggests there is a media blackhole caused by Israel's actions but still swears by the accuracy of biased sources.


Quote
Two residents of the area who spoke by telephone said they saw a small group of militants firing mortar rounds from a street near the school, where 350 people had gathered to get away from the shelling. They spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal.


http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ny-wogaza075989330jan07,0,722143.story

davidylan:

Knucklehead, Cardinal Martino speaks for himself and is not a ventriloquist.

However,the pope is but one person amongst 6.5bn, his opinion must be seen in the light of a Vatican that spent the 40s campaigning vehemently to stop the UN recognising Israel.

davidylan:

Charles Krauthammer noted something very interesting. 'Palestine' has been run by the Turks, the British, the Jordanians and the Egyptians. Not one of them ever thought to give the Palestinians sovereignty over any piece of land, which is what Israel did in 2005.

Such is the momentousness of the Israeli pullout and how did the Palestinians respond to this unprecedented transfer of authority to them? By firing rockets from the very first day Israeli withdrawal was completed.

Sagamite:

Professional dimwit, so it is "irrelevant quote from the UN"? So you know better than the UN staff doing analysis and devising solutions in the region for decades?

This is how someone can spot the assured confidence of ill-educated individual's bravado.

You are right on one thing though: "No sane person on earth will challenge my claim". Yeah, instead of challenging you, they should get a stray-jacket and lock you up.

80% of Gazans live on FOOD aid and are below poverty line, and your daft self says "Gazans enjoy a living standard that is better than most Africans including Nigeria". What proportion of Nigerians live on food aid and what proportion are below the poverty line?

Yeah, poverty is relative to each society, but the relativeness also measures the income-generation potential and basic needs. So if 80% are generating less than the minimum potential and can't meet their basic needs in life and have to depend on hands out, you think they have a fantastic life? _{Someone please get the stray-jacket for this cretin.}

Professional dimwit, this is equivalent as saying someone earning £20K in London is better off than someone earning £12K in Sokoto. Moronic as you are not comparing cost of living (transport, gas/heating, labour, transport etc) for the respective region. More moronic when the head of UNRWA is saying living there is tough. _{Someone please get the stray-jacket for this cretin.}

Professional dimwit,
_{Someone please get the stray-jacket for this cretin.}

Professional dimwit, the UN has already confirmed that 257 children were among the 758 killed. I guess to you the UN are Arab slaves? _{Someone please get the stray-jacket for this cretin.}

Professional dimwit, did your deceivers not say they have evidence of Hamas sending bomb from the UN compound, how come they have not released their evidence?

When the spokesman for the Israeli President was grilled on channel 4, he could not confirm where they say the bomb coming from. He said it could have been inside the compound or any side of the compound (North, East, South or West). This is the same people that said they had evidence? _{Someone please get the stray-jacket for this cretin.}

Professional dimwit, and your dimwitted self is the one that is objective? _{Someone please get the stray-jacket for this cretin.}

Professional dimwit, how generous of the Israelis.

I rob a bank of £20m and give £500K back, I guess I deserve a knighthood. _{Someone please get the stray-jacket for this cretin.}

kadman:

Sorry to derail the thread, but Sagamite, i need your expertise on a UK University issue, very urgent,my email is fineman3x@yahoo.com. Send me an email,Thanks !

Professional dimwit, so it is "irrelevant quote from the UN"? So you know better than the UN staff doing analysis and devising solutions in the region for decades?

This is how someone can spot the assured confidence of ill-educated individual's bravado.You are right on one thing though: "No sane person on earth will challenge my claim". Yeah, instead of challenging you, they should get a stray-jacket and lock you up.

80% of Gazans live on FOOD aid and are below poverty line, and your daft self says "Gazans enjoy a living standard that is better than most Africans including Nigeria". What proportion of Nigerians live on food aid and what proportion are below the poverty line?

Yeah, poverty is relative to each society, but the relativeness also measures the income-generation potential and basic needs. So if 80% are generating less than the minimum potential and can't meet their basic needs in life and have to depend on hands out, you think they have a fantastic life?

Professional dimwit, this is equivalent as saying someone earning £20K in London is better off than someone earning £12K in Sokoto. Moronic as you are not comparing cost of living (transport, gas/heating, labour, transport etc) for the respective region. More moronic when the head of UNRWA is saying living there is tough.

Professional dimwit, the UN has already confirmed that 257 children were among the 758 killed. I guess to you the UN are Arab slaves?

Professional dimwit, did your deceivers not say they have evidence of Hamas sending bomb from the UN compound, how come they have not released their evidence?

When the spokesman for the Israeli President was grilled on channel 4, he could not confirm where they say the bomb coming from. He said it could have been inside the compound or somewhere in the vicinity of the compound (North, East, South or West). This is the same people that said they had evidence?

Professional dimwit, and your dimwitted self is the one that is objective?

Professional dimwit, how generous of the Israelis.
I rob a bank of £20m and give £500K back, I guess I deserve a knighthood.

Forget about the consequences of the recent outbreak in violence; Gazans have greater access to regular electricity, pipe-borne water, health facilities, schooling, transportation infrastructure,e.t.c

sleek_p:

@4Play
I asked you politely the first time and am asking you again, if Gaza is such a paradise why don't you go there or send your brothers?

davidylan:

and i also ask . . . if Israel is so bad why have over 1 million arab israelis refused to be a part of the budding palestinian state?

sleek_p:

Maybe don't know this but there are plenty Jews in the middle east who have not returned to Israel. I bet you didn't know this?

davidylan:

we know . . . they all live like dhimmis.

Besides what was the relevance of the above to the issue i raised?

if Israel is so bad why have over 1 million arab israelis refused to be a part of the budding palestinian state?

sleek_p:

You said:
I replied that there are many Jews in Arab countries who have not migrated to Israel. Which part of my answer do you want explaining in Yoruba language?

Frizy:

[flash=425,344]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/bt2Vfb8QUfU[/flash]


The conquer will come.

4 Play:


Look at this self-contradicting befuddled Arrow.

Frizy:

[flash=425,344]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/bt2Vfb8QUfU[/flash]


The conquer will come.

davidylan:

1. You cant keep living dishonestly forever . . . for instance the alleged flag flying there is NOT a "palestinian" flag but was FIRST designed by the Sharriff of Mecca in 1917 for the ARAB revolt against the Ottoman empire. That flag has nothing to do with Gaza or the WestBank.

2. Palestine is NOT an arab name and has absolutely no related history to arabs BUT Jews.

Frizy:

That's their flag, it's either you accept it, or live in denial for all your life.

davidylan:

I just gave you the history of the flag and the FACT that it was not "adopted" by the "palestinians" until 1988. You can as usual live with the usual dishonesty that is now par for the course with muslims who will deny reality to the last drop of their blood.

It is no coincidence that the flag is (without the star) a CARBON COPY of the Jordanian flag. The Jordanian nation is ruled by the sons of the former Sharrif of Mecca who originally designed the flag.

Ikomi:

Now you are making that word loose value. 

How in the world does your so called FACTS justify the moral _fact that palestinians do not deserve there own state. Ehhhnnnnn Oga FACTS

davidylan:

Which FACTS are you arguing against?
1. That the current "palestinian" flag was actually the flag of the arab league designed in 1917 by the former Sharrif of Mecca whose sons took over the rule of Jordan?

2. That the present "palestinians" did NOT adopt said flag until 1988?

3. That the flag is a shameless copy of the Jordanian flag?

4. That when the PLO was formed in 1964 (3 yrs before any settlements) they ceded the west bank to Jordan?

So which ones are you disputing? Or is it the fact that you really dont know anything?

Or the fact that your question makes no sense because NO ONE but "palestinians" are the main roadblocks to their own statehood?

Exactly which "facts" did you base your disgrace of a question?

- The "fact" that when Israel promptly handed back the West bank and Gaza to the former owners they were soundly rejected?

- The "fact" that Egypt got the sinai back over 50yrs ago?

Just WHO are those denying the "palestinians" their own state?

Like i always say . . . it is not by force to post in the politics section especially if you have the mental capacity of a 5yr old.

Ikomi:

Let me lead the way, cause the Palestinians are muslims, who would not know what to do with a state, and they had to wait till May 1964 in Jerusalem to form a representative body, and there flag consits a red color, which we all know is a crime, and above all they have fanatics which davidylan is not.