"No, the real lesson was that mobs of people will react with irrational freakish hysteria to the idea that other people don't believe as they do."

nopuqeater:

its too early for me. its just after 9 am. you think the whole world keep the same time? It is not flat, what what your bible says. Shaitan showed Jesus {who was to be the God Himself; ridiculous thought. Oro buruku towun te rin lenu, while people should be weeping hard}, the whole earth, in one sweep, telling him he will give it to him, !


I lament for the ignorance in that. God and Shaitan is similar to the old famous store "Lord and Taylor". Its christian God, and it is Jewish store. THe store went bankrupt. The God is powerelss for of his own he can do nothing.

nopuqeater:

@Golders; I dont have to be born into Islam before i wear the garb of belief. i just have to be a believer. i am almost a mumin. though i was born into islam.

i do not drink beer. i do not eat pork.

and many arabs dont know anything about islam. even the ones who are some misbehave, 2 you just listed.


i remember one from jerusalem calling it the holiest city on earth. i had to remind if he can tell me the simgular group that is holy.

this conversation took place inside the most many years ago. he said muslims.

then i asked him to give me the first town he will find no other person in it, except Muslims. e said what will come to mind is Makka. I said to him that city is holier than Jerusalem. I said even Madina is holier than Jerusalem.

so the arabs are not always the ideals f Islam. every muslim must be judged by Islam. not Islam must be judged by the behavior of each muslim.

now to question your thinking; what is it that i said that is not true?

vedaxcool:

Nopuqeater he is not worth answering as he will always shut his hands to replying the truth, But nice reply as his Ignorance are evident from his post.
you said it all my brother, but his free thinking will hardly give free sense

The whole knowledge of Biologist PZ Myers is just a few verse in the QUran. So much for the ego intosticated Professor, who is not a muslim. Islam was here before Judaism, Christianity, etc, in the eyes of those of us who believe that Adam was the first man, obeying God's Will, and when Adam and his mate Hawa erred, they seek forgiveness, which was granted to them.

Terry Jones, if he wishes to burn the Quran, the US laws protects him.

It is not just a freakin book you Mudley freak. While you have no rules and guidance, Quran is the Only authentic Oasis of it, not having human intervention, except that it was recorded because those who committed it to memory were being killed by people like your kind of disbelievers, in the hundreds at a time.

Some of us fear perditions, you know, Get that into your freakin empty skull, you toad.

What about u, are u worth answering. I have told u some of the killings&rascal life your mohammad lived. To date, u are yet to show me the small fly or ant that jesus killed talkless of human being

toba:

What about u, are u worth answering. I have told u some of the killings&rascal life your mohammad lived. To date, u are yet to show me the small fly or ant that jesus killed talkless of human being

Mudley313:

dude, seriously, are you okay?

whats with this new invasion of the religious forum by fanatical islamic e-fundamentalists. i thot there was a muslim section. spamming the forum wit all these my-god-is-better-than-your-god posts n threads are starting to get redundant

and this guy's almost always online. you nor get work?

Veda is 2 cool to join issues with a retard.

InesQor:

Somebody said it's a big misunderstanding. Terry Jones wanted to

[size=48pt]BURN THE QURAN ONTO A DVD[/size]

but of course his political detractors misconstrued his statement

bashy_demy:

wowww i guess you are right then case close and thread should be close pls moderators

Mad_Max:

I agree with Myers. The Koran IS just 'a frackin book'. Nothing more. It's not holy. And no one should expect others to pay the same regard you do to your holy book. Someone tells you to kill other human beings who don't believe as you do. It says a lot about the unbalanced mental state of the person. If you need any other indication the Koran was merely guys sitting around putting their own thoughts on paper, it's the reward they say you get for murder: houris or wide-eyed virgins feeding you in paradise. If obsession with women and sex doesn't say 'men' I don't know what does. Your holy book says go and kill. And you're quite complacent about this, accepting 'Allah' as the source, based on nothing whatsoever. Even though you don't object to the killing, you call those who obey the Koran's command to kill 'deviants'. What are they deviating from? It's those who don't obey the Koranic injunction to murder non-moslems that are the deviants. Isn't that why many Moslems raise no outcry and don't censure those who kill? But you can come and raise a thread objecting to Koran burning with nary a blush. Observe the hundreds of religions out there and list those who bear a hatred for others, are intolerant, and consider murder part of their holy religious duties like Islam.

I read an article in the UK about Moslems who say those who don't obey the injunction to kill are not true Moslems. That's not in Northern Nigeria, where the stone age morons proliferate. Those are educated British Moslems. No one is saying they're speaking for Islam, but it's very worrying. People rationalize the havoc they cause, but all efforts at containment are coming from outside Islam. Moslems themselves issue consent and passive acceptance of religious murder from silence. After all, what can they say? Their 'holy book' commands it of faithfuls. You kill others, desecrate their books, temples, churches and religious artefacts, but expect people to tiptoe around all that and respect your religion and your Koran. If you can't contain your rabid dogs, and have zero respect for the lives of others, you yourselves should be contained.

vedaxcool:

i am a worthless piece of Junk.

nopuqeater:

Terry Jones, if he wishes to burn the Quran, the US laws protects him.

aletheia:

^^What a particularly revealing statement that exposes the innate doublespeak and deception of the followers of Muhammad. In other words; if the man was to try it in Nigeria or Saudi Arabia, he would have died for the affront. In a widely reported incident in Nigeria, in Gombe state, a secondary school teacher, mother of two was killed by her students. Her offence? They claimed she desecrated the koran. All she did was dispossess one of the students of his books, which he was insisting on entering an exam hall with. Thus is the nature of the beast-spirit of Islam.
The hypocrisy of this beast-system is further shown by the fact that the Saudi Arabian authorities do burn thousands of Bibles every year and nobody raises any hue or cry. Despite their best efforts; the Word of God remains a witness to the false system of idol worship masquerading as monotheism that is Islam---and many Muslims are forsaking it.

Mudley313:

i thought as much

Facts:

Islam is a stone aged cankerous violent and backward arabian religion that condones peadophilia, savagery, murder, genocide, suicide etc and is currently the biggest threat to peace in today's modern world

Allah is a stone aged non-existent arabian deity that promises imaginary virgins as rewards for savagery

Muhammad is a known peadophile

You are a slowpoke

Mad_Max:

You make it hard for me to take you seriously,nopuqueter. Why you imagine any post I make on Islam is meant for you is beyond me. I don't consider the Bible the word of God any more than I consider your Koran the word of God. The gospels have a troubled history, surely. They're men trying to give an accurate report of something very important. I believe the gist of what they had to say, especially the gospel of John. And my belief doesn't threaten anyone; nowhere in the NT am I instructed to go and kill people who don't agree with my religious views. Christianity is based on the NT. I think the mental states of the writers are okay, given there are no injunctions to murder people who don't believe as I do. Only a rabid lunatic would instruct others to kill and say it is their duty to God or Allah or whatever. We don't even know what 'God' is; whether it's a he/she/it/they; so how can anyone claim to speak for that entity, and tell you to go kill in the name of that entity? It takes a lunatic to issue such a thing, and it takes lunatics to obey. The OT has nothing to do with Christianity. That's the basis for Judaism, a diferent religion. But if you insist the OT equals Christianity then Moslems are Christians as well, since so much of the OT is in your Koran.

Moses is not my problem. You don't see Christians killing people because of anything Moses did, so what's it to do with anything? We are not discussing the bible, or Moses, or the NT.We are not discussing what happened a hundred years ago, it is completely irrelevant. It's the 21st century and we're talking about Islam, and the barbarous, ludicrous, retrogressive, murderous religion it has become. There is no way to understate how uninterested I am in a 'my religion is better than yours' debate. That's not the issue here. But a chronic inability to face issues is one of the problems of Islam, no? Address yourself to the issues raised and stop running to the OT and other irrelevancies not under discussion to 'prove' only you know what. Those Moslems who kill innocent people in the North, did they tell you they did it because of Queen Isabella? Isn't it because of what the Koran says? If Isabella killed Moslems centuries ago, that somehow makes whatever Moslems do NOW all right? So I can go out now and kill any caucasian I see and say, 'They lynched blacks until recently,' because to your mind two wrongs, however little bearing they have on each other, somehow makes a right?

The idea of Moslems not broadcasting their objections to killing to the world is absurd. More than a few mosques are used as rallying and arms dsibursement and recruitment camps for jihads. I think the fact that you have a moslem section on NL,with hundreds of threads, yet there is not a single thread by Moslems where killing or any wrongdoing in Islam is condemned, says all there is to say. In the parallel universe you live in Moslems might be told not to kill; in the real world their 'holy book' says they can, and so they do it. It's easy for them to see anything other than a moslem as sub-human and to kill it, because their holy book says it. They do it with sick regularity in the North of the country; are they at war there? Are they attacked first? Nope.

You say if Allah commands you to kill you will have no qualms about killing. How does Allah command people to kill? How will you know when Allah issues such a directive? Through his prophets, no? Through your holy book? You see? There are no 'deviants'. Islam is a danger to itself and a danger to others precisely because of the silent consent of the majority, for the actions of a few.  Because of a mindset that cannot face issues but looks for excuses and 'justifications' where none is to be found.  

bashy_demy:

so are you now trying to say you xtains does not believe in OT? and now trying to Qualify OT to Quran you really make me laugh and seem you make a statement about Muslim planing in a mosque do you have evidence for that? you are only ranting about people fighting and killing each and trying to blame it on Muslim are you even going crazy? can you give me an evidence of where it says they should kill in the Holy Quran, we all believe Jesus ask his disciples to sell there cloths to by sword pls can you tell me what was the sword for?

Mad_Max:

I don't speak for Christianity, as the word 'I' would have suggested to anyone else. And Christianity isn't the topic under discussion, Islam is and its barbarousness is. Unless my post is directed at you, I suggest you point your responses to the OP.