muami:

I just realised I was wasting my time responding to someone who knows next to nothing about the business of governance. My apologies! Byeeeeee

It's a pity!!!!

somze:

Can you name one person that received the gift or one person that rejected it I don't want my uncle's friend told my uncle told my cousin told my brother who put it on twitter and facebook.

yAP @BUBUSN on twitter confirmed he collected the gifts and he has even attempted to justify why he is not wrong for collecting it.

If Obama invites you to the white house for a deliberation, will you have to pay for your travel expenses?
I know that ordinary companies who want to hire you and pay you most often organize expenses paid interviews.

Lets assume he was bribing those people, what was the bribery for? Who were the youths invited?

It would make much sense if the youths invited were people critical of GEJ govt who he wants to win but then that will also depend on their popularity and influence.

OK can Sahara tell us if the source collected or rejected his/her own travel allowance on top of his/her disappointment.
In this kind of issue, there is no point hiding the source if his information is correct at least his identity would help do some permutation.

BTW any youth who has attracted the attention of the presidency and can be bribed with N150K is cheap. Let's quit being sentimental.

^^^^^^^
A gathering of such is not necessary in the first instant with the present situation of things in the country. We all knew the caliber of the "youth" who would be invited. That amount alone could safe nothing less than 4,000 sick children's life. We need sincerity of purpose at this critical period in our national life. We don't have choice, we must move forward. Any attempt to take a step backward will definitely lead to chaos that may engulf them all including GEJ. People are fed up.

A trip to paediatrics departments of government hospitals would show you how senseless such spending is. Go and see the hope of tomorrow languishing in excruciating pain and dying for lack of just 30-50k. GEJ, by that has only enriched the already rich pocket.

If opportunity presents itself to threat our leaders f***kups, with the bleeding state of my Heart, I will participate fully and make sure they all pay for their senselessness and idiotic dispositions.

@ziccoit
pls take it easy man. dont have blood on your hands o.
God will deal with them one by one.that i know but it might take long.

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@samla, thank you jare

agabaI23:

If Obama invites you to the white house for a deliberation, will you have to pay for your travel expenses?
I know that ordinary companies who want to hire you and pay you most often organize expenses paid interviews.

No 1, I can bet Obama inviting you to White house for deliberation will be based on some carefully selected merit and scrutinised process before using public funds on you.

No 2, I am sure if a company invites you for interview, you will have been assessed to be worthy of coming over to be interviewed.

No 3, companies can choose to spend their capital and profits anyhow they deem fit. Reetards are not allowed to spend public funds anyhow they deem fit.

No 4, when companies and Obama invite you, they either arrange things for you or refund you based on the receipts you provide.

Please explain where people are coming from in Nigeria that required N150K of public funds.

Explain if it does not make more sense to assess people's requirement individually to ensure people are not being overpaid with public funds.

Ah Relief. I'm so relieved.

I'm so relieved to find there is quite a number of reasoning people here. We have to up the ante anyway cos these ones that are showing blank spaces upstairs are giving us a bad name

Well done, Sagamite! Your brains are properly aligned.

Sagamite:

No 1, I can bet Obama inviting you to White house for deliberation will be based on some carefully selected merit and scrutinised process before using public funds on you.

No 2, I am sure if a company invites you for interview, you will have been assessed to be worthy of coming over to be interviewed.

No 3, companies can choose to spend their capital and profits anyhow they deem fit. Reetards are not allowed to spend public funds anyhow they deem fit.

No 4, when companies and Obama invite you, they either arrange things for you or refund you based on the receipts you provide.

Please explain where people are coming from in Nigeria that required N150K of public funds.

Explain if it does not make more sense to assess people's requirement individually to ensure people are not being overpaid with public funds.

Sagacity,

1. we cannot condemn based on the first question as we do not know who was invited and we cannot assume
2. Again we do know who this individuals are to know if they are qualified for the invite and what will our criteria for
measuring their suitability be
3. Companies cannot spend their money outside the rules of the company. Goodluck has overhead cost which he can
can spend according to constitutional provision. He will only have to account for it
4. You are right but at the end of the day, some money or something was given back

N150k may be a bit on the high for travel expense only but it is also too small as a bribe. Not all were given N150K. Could it be that opportunity cost for attending the meeting on the part of the individuals was built into the handout?.

agabaI23:

Sagacity,

1. we cannot condemn based on the first question as we do not know who was invited and we cannot assume
2. Again we do know who this individuals are to know if they are qualified for the invite and what will our criteria for
    measuring their suitability be
3. Companies cannot spend their money outside the rules of the company. Goodluck has overhead cost which he can
    can spend according to constitutional provision. He will only have to account for it
4. You are right but at the end of the day, some money or something was given back

N150k may be a bit on the high for travel expense only but it is also too small as a bribe. Not all were given N150K. Could it be that opportunity cost for attending the meeting on the part of the individuals was built into the handout?.

1. and 2. I think it is a shame such event were millions was spent was to take place and most of us youths (being represented) did not even know this was taking place.

3. Companies set their own rules, so they can do what they like with their money. Goodluck's overhead cost is still public funds which he has to spend diligently. I don't think he is even allowed to use it for ashewo. 

4. It really does not demonstrate diligence in utilising public funds. If the President does not show fiscal diligence, what example is he setting for lower public officials? I have not heard of opportunity cost being paid to people to attend an event they are not crucial to. If you want to attend, then attend. I think even N50K is sufficient enough inducement in Nigeria, talkless of N150K, especially when dealing with over 400 people. Far less amounts was used to bribe NYSC youths (employed by INEC) to rig elections and contribute to the destruction of their own future. Most Nigerian youths will have to have close to 6-8 years experience to earn N150K per month, so that is significant money. If anybody gives me £400 (N100K) as bribe in London, I no go think twice as that is like four months pay. 

This is it!.
Sagamite and Nuclearboy are here and sitting on thesame side with me.


Couple with fact that they are both towing my line. Rhino can't wait to start reading from some of the finest NL can ever produce. grabs pop corn.

Sagamite:

Most Nigerian youths will have to have close to 6-8 years experience to earn N150K per month, so that is significant money. If anybody gives me £400 as bribe in London, I no go think twice as that is like four months pay. 

You mean you earn £400 as pay for 4 months? in London? Actually I'm not surprised cos here in the UK, things are done on merit and therefore you get paid for what you are worth!

BTW, I recieve around that amount (£400) PER WEEK as scholarship to cover my living costs!

muami:

You mean you earn £400 as pay for 4 months? in London? Actually I'm not surprised cos here in the UK, things are done on merit and therefore you get paid for what you are worth!

muami:

BTW, I recieve around that amount (£400) PER WEEK as scholarship to cover my living costs!

You surely are a cretin if you believed that! 

Who/which institution is wasting funds on you? Every tom, kunle and harry can all claim what they like on cyberspace.

A fcking cretin that thinks public officials dishing out money is "business of governance" is the one getting scholarship?

Sagamite:

Every tom, kunle and harry can all claim what they like on cyberspace.

, Which is why I suspect that even the £400 per 4 months claim you made is exaggerated. By the level of your analysis and understanding, you deserve far less!

BTW, I noticed that you have just edited your post to increase your salary from £400 every 4 months to £600 every 4 months. Lol

If you are a PTDF scholar that amount is PER MONTH! Not per WEEK!

p.s PTDF scholarship has shifted from merit to who you know. I know plenty guys that didn't even sat for the exams and they are awarded the scholarship

muami:

, Which is why I suspect that even the £400 per 4 months claim you made is exaggerated. By the level of your analysis and understanding, you deserve far less!

BTW, I noticed that you have just edited your post to increase your salary from £400 every 4 months to £600 every 4 months. Lol

muami:

, Which is why I suspect that even the £400 per 4 months claim you made is exaggerated. By the level of your analysis and understanding, you deserve far less!

BTW, I noticed that you have just edited your post to increase your salary from £400 every 4 months to £600 every 4 months. Lol

You are talking about my "analysis and understanding"?

You surely are reetarded!

You are not a quarter as smart as I am when I am sleeping and my brain is recharging. I will flog your dumb arse in a debate whilst sleeping.

What kind od network are you using that you are seeing such edits?

Rhino.5dm:

If you are a PTDF scholar that amount is PER MONTH! Not per WEEK!

p.s PTDF scholarship has shifted from merit to who you know. I know plenty guys that didn't even sat for the exams and they are awarded the scholarship

Just for the record, I am not a PTDF scholar. Secondly, I entirely agree with you that PTDF ( and indeed most other Nigeria scholarships) are NOT based on merit.

Sagamite:

You are talking about my "analysis and understanding"?

Y[b]ou are not a quarter as smart as I am when I am sleeping and my brain is recharging[/b]. I will flog your dumb arse in a debate whilst sleeping.

I think you need to get a new charger for your brain to make it reason better. As per flogging people in debates while sleeping, its surprising that despite all the floggings you have done, all you get is £400 every 4 months which is about the same amount I gave in donations to Oxfam, Amnesty International and Cancer Research during the last 4 months!

Sir, can you tell us the name and type of the scholarship you onto? Honestly, that amount make can someone drop his career job. . .

muami:

Just for the record, I am not a PTDF scholar. Secondly, I entirely agree with you that PTDF ( and indeed most other Nigeria scholarships) are NOT based on merit.

muami:

I think you need to get a new charger for your brain to make it reason better. As per flogging people in debates while sleeping, its surprising that despite all the floggings you have done, all you get is £400 every 4 months which is about the same amount I gave in donations to Oxfam, Amnesty International and Cancer Research during the last 4 months!  

Oh, lawd!  

What a cretin!

You really want us to believe International bodies will sponsor a dunce like you?  

So you are on scholarship but yet can afford to donate money? You want us to believe you?

The kind of things cretins will claim on the internet is amazing.  

I get paid £600 every 4 months, you foool!  

Rhino.5dm:

Sir, can you tell us the name and type of the scholarship you onto? Honestly, that amount make can someone drop his career job. . .

The scholarship is a studentship from the University. Quite a number of UK institutions offer such scholarships(or even better) for research students. I know cos I actually got 3 from 3 different universities before I selected one.

Sagamite:

Oh, lawd!  

So you are on scholarship but yet can afford to donate money? You want us to believe you?

The kind of things cretins will claim on the internet is amazing.  

I am not surprised at your comments but just to educate you, being on scholarships does not mean you are poor. Scholarships are given to people based on ACADEMIC MERIT not based on FINANCIAL STATUS. Poor people are given GRANTS or BURSARIES to support thier studies. As you no no book make I teach you!

Secondly, what do I stand to gain by claiming on the internet to somebody who I dont know and who does not know me and from whom I am not seeking any favours from?

muami:

I am not surprised at your comments but just to educate you, being on scholarships does not mean you are poor. Scholarships are given to people based on ACADEMIC MERIT not based on FINANCIAL STATUS. Poor people are given GRANTS or BURSARIES to support thier studies. As you no no book make I teach you!

Secondly, what do I stand to gain by claiming on the internet to somebody who I dont know and who does not know me and from whom I am not seeking any favours from? 

You are reetarded!

You claimed earlier you are getting funds as "living expenses", that is normally given to those without the funds. 

What you really need to educate me on is how distributing money arbitrarily is "the business of governance". Fooool!

I really want to know how a person with such reetarded thinking can claim to be on scholarship on "academic merit". 

I have seen and busted buffoons on NL claiming they are studying medicine in Princeton and another claiming to have been making over £100K 2 years after leaving uni working on SAP.

Mooorons can claim anything online. 

Oya, start explaining. I am waiting. 

hmmm

Really puzzled here that Sagamite is bothering to respond to this shining example of the baser dregs of society - is it not instantly obvious that your "opponent" (for want of a better word since the said dude ought not even be pitted against a mosquito's instinct) is one of those who likely are being sponsored by "fresh air"? Such'll sell their mothers for a bowl of pottage so I'm not surprised.

How any sane even half-educated person can expect that public funds be at the whim-ful disposal of any public official beats me. No wonder such as Idi-Amin prospered in Africa.

Imagine the genetic dumpster deciding to refuse to "discuss" with someone who "doesn't know the art of governance is sharing money".

Ewu - catfish-intestines for brains

the problem i have with the lunch/gathering is not the invitation itself or even the money issue but the fact that like one feyi fawehinmi's article in saharareporters the information was not shared with the generalityof youths.secondly it is a real shame that the opportunity to take absolute advantage of this pedestal given for the first time to so called nigerian youths co-ordinators was mis used and turned into another GEJ praise fest.
a revolutionary wind of change is blowing right accross the middle east led in large numbers by the youths,achieving great results,and here we are with our own youths soiling their hands with the filthy lucre of GEJ handout.
when are the youths in nigeria and beyond going to be ready to actually take pro active and serious steps to be taken seriously?
in the last election what is the percentage of the youths that stood for an electoral posts,are they planning to do so in the next election these are the pertinent points which should have been looked at.
lastly i personally believe that these guys are just opportunists who are largely taking advantage of the disaray and the vacum in youth leadership when did chude jideonwo start representing majority of the youths?even the future awards is not an accurate reflection of the average nigerian youth

The game plan is to buy them(selected few youth) over,

During

In Rainy season, GEJ et al share them money.

In Dry season, they use them to plant bomb, riot etc

muami is a product of that scheme.

How's this new? if undeserving criminals called militants could be getting a minimum of 50k per month for being unproductive, how much is 150k to already rich fools who are ready to lick azzz just like Dbanj their class captain?

Another low for the event, according to another participant, was video footage of a British band called "Goodluck Jonathan" which had been shown to participants apparently to prove that Jonathan was a global icon who had inspired a foreign music band.

the other day i saw a fellow wearing boxers with a BARACK OBAMA waistband

can goodluck panties be far behind?

nuclearboy:

Really puzzled here that Sagamite is bothering to respond to this shining example of the baser dregs of society - is it not instantly obvious that your "opponent" (for want of a better word since the said dude ought not even be pitted against a mosquito's instinct) is one of those who likely are being sponsored by "fresh air"? Such'll sell their mothers for a bowl of pottage so I'm not surprised.

How any sane even half-educated person can expect that public funds be at the whim-ful disposal of any public official beats me. No wonder such as Idi-Amin prospered in Africa.

Imagine the genetic dumpster deciding to refuse to "discuss" with someone who "doesn't know the art of governance is sharing money".

Ewu - catfish-intestines for brains 

No be my fault o!

[Imitates the way alcoholics introduce themselves at AA meetings]

"My name is Sagamite and I am an addict"

I am addicted to bashing moorons. It gives me a high.

Anytime one of the moorons has the audacity to take the bait, I pity the foool.

I was so furious to see a foool thinking he is making sense by arguing that since it is oil revenue and not tax, then it is OK.

I was boiling reading it. I couldn't believe such a foool would even claim to be educated. Only for the cretin to have the audacity to lie he is on Scholarship.

Scholarship ko, Scholarboat ni.

What a foooool!