edicolove:

How many of you will catch an armed robber that comes to your house and later allow him to go free just because he is not the only one. I dont understand the logic in these reasonings. @Gbawe and other, please answer me simply:

Do you want Nigeria to change?
Do you really really want corruption to stop?
If Yes then why do you support some and fight others?
Why not just seek all to be tried?
When Gani was on Tinubu's case, was he being sponsored by OBJ or GEJ?


If the trying of Tinubu will expose Jonathan, is that not better for all of us? So why not encourage it. Why try to fight it? Why are you angry about it? If Tinubu has glaring evidence to hook GEJ, then he should bring it out for us to see. Not bringing it out is even another offense on its own. I am really ashamed of those who have being preaching they want to wipe out a corrupt PDP and have shown that they are very corrupt themselv[b]es. They have only shown they are tryin to remove a spec from someone else's eyes when they have a big log in their eyes[/b]. This is shameful hypocrisy.

GBammmmm May God be with you for this post

from Tinubu to all PDP to orjis etc are ALL THE SAME

thank you

anyone that defends tinubu ole here needs his head exaimed

alj_harem:

GBammmmm May God be with you for this post

from Tinubu to all PDP to orjis etc are ALL THE SAME

thank you

anyone that defends tinubu ole here needs his head exaimed

This is not about the defense of Tinubu. This is purely about political persecution and that is the point.  Have they attempted to deal with Odili who secured an unchallenged injunction , years ago, against arrest, detention and prosecution even when he no longer enjoyed any sort of immunity ? There are many, many, many, many , many  open and shut cases like that against PDP looters yet , suspiciously, Tinubu's , the main opposition leader commanding a Party with relative legislative influence, gets his own case 'fast-tracked' .

The SSS quized Tinubu lately when GEJ and the PDP needed to win an election. What came of that? Did we not see similar tactics used to bully the likes of Amaechi till they 'chill'. It is OBJ and Anenihs politics of wickedness 101 we are seeing through GEJ. We have seen revelations of how those pretending to fight corruption are actually the most corrupt (OBJ) !!!!

If this is about fighting corruption and criminality, then let us see a robust effort because me and you know that the most corrupt and callously criminal individuals in the land currently surround GEJ. They are in his cabinet, they are his advisors, they are in his economic team and are his pals and mentors. 

It will look very dubious , especially to folks of the SW, if gra-gra focus is on Tinubu alone when he is conveniently also the biggest headache of the PDP and virtually the only thing standing in their way in future while all Nigerians can see the likes of Tony Anenih walking the coridors of power freely. It is hypocritical b.ullshi.te !!!!!!

If you people do not have enough vision to see the effort of those far more evil than others to muzzle opposition in Nigeria , then don't complain belatedly (like the "I voted GEJ and not PDP crew" are doing) when we are back to the PDP dominating our politics even when they have only served up misrule. They know why they want to 'neutralise' Tinubu. Afterall the new PDP chairman has just bragged that the misruling PDP , with currently underperforming President , will rule Nigeria forever. Go figure.

^
When it was Ibori's turn you weren't making any noise. Now its Tinubu's turn and you're bawling like a kid thats had their candy stolen!

Which kain yeye crocodile tears be dis na?

Mr "Toronto" is going down with his gang of thieving goolies.

We all should jubiliate at any attempt by any government in Nigeria to prosecute any of the thieving 'leaders'. It really should not matter whether a political vendetta is responsible for the aggressive prosecution of any of these thieves.

As long as justice is served, all is well. Ibori cried political vendetta, but in the end, he will get the opportunity to defend himself in court. Let Tinubu face the music and prove his innocence in court. Anyone indirectly calling for an end to Tinubu's prosecution deserves to be shot alongside the thieving leaders. Shikena.

Beaf:

^
When it was Ibori's turn you weren't making any noise. Now its Tinubu's turn and you're bawling like a kid thats had their candy stolen!

Which kain yeye crocodile tears be dis na?

Mr "Toronto" is going down with his gang of thieving goolies.

M.o.ron. Try and keep up !!!!The Ibori scenario was political as well !! Is he not the same Ibori cleared of over a 100 charges of corruption in a Nigerian Court under Aondoakaa and Yar Adua? Is it not the same Ibori that Yar Adua was ready to ridicule our international image for? If Ibori had not crossed the line seriously, as the Southern ringleader and SS "traitor" to GEJ , during the Yar Adua health sage then he would be another PDP looter enjoying his 'stash' today!!! Simple as that !!!!

For the avoidance of doubt, I want GEJ to see this thing with Tinubu to the end. Let us see who has more to lose. Clever folks know this is about two things (1) GEJ wants tenure elongation and (2) Obasanjo and the PDP want the SW back. Tinubu stands in the way of both . Tinubu has defeated them tactically and strategically . Now the new terrain is the partisan use of executive power OBJ was famous for. The miscalculation of GEJ, egged on by "do or die" mentors who have already gotten him into trouble he is yet to overcome ala 'poisoned chalice', begin with this efforts that sees him thinking simplistically that he wins once Tinubu is politically neutralised.

Gbawe:

This is not about the defense of Tinubu. This is purely about political persecution and that is the point.  Have they attempted to deal with Odili who secured an unchallenged injunction , years ago, against arrest, detention and prosecution even when he no longer enjoyed any sort of immunity ? There are many, many, many, many , many  open and shut cases like that against PDP looters yet , suspiciously, Tinubu's , the main opposition leader commanding a Party with relative legislative influence, gets his own case 'fast-tracked' .

The SSS quized Tinubu lately when GEJ and the PDP needed to win an election. What came of that? Did we not see similar tactics used to bully the likes of Amaechi till they 'chill'. It is OBJ and Anenihs politics of wickedness 101 we are seeing through GEJ. We have seen revelations of how those pretending to fight corruption are actually the most corrupt (OBJ) !!!!

If this is about fighting corruption and criminality, then let us see a robust effort because me and you know that the most corrupt and callously criminal individuals in the land currently surround GEJ. They are in his cabinet, they are his advisors, they are in his economic team and are his pals and mentors. 

It will look very dubious , especially to folks of the SW, if gra-gra focus is on Tinubu alone when he is conveniently also the biggest headache of the PDP and virtually the only thing standing in their way in future while all Nigerians can see the likes of Tony Anenih walking the coridors of power freely. It is hypocritical b.ullshi.te !!!!!!

If you people do not have enough vision to see the effort of those far more evil than others to muzzle opposition in Nigeria , then don't complain belatedly (like the "I voted GEJ and not PDP crew" are doing) when we are back to the PDP dominating our politics even when they have only served up misrule. They know why they want to 'neutralise' Tinubu. Afterall the new PDP chairman has just bragged that the misruling PDP , with currently underperforming President , will rule Nigeria forever. Go figure.

Gbawe my brother I understand what u mean

but is VERY WELL advicable for us nigerians to first be happy if there is any presecution against any former government offical because[i] there is no smoke without fire[/i]

for them to have charges against him, then there are some element of truth in it. That you should know

after so many years of corruption from military to civilian (PDP) I no long trust any government again and more so Tinubu and you and not blame me and others like me.

Lets say tiunbu made his money when he was not yet elected etc there is no way he could have generated that much money to be conducting elections, building houses, buying lands etc

but let even say all i mentioned are all lies by PDP against him (ACN)

at least you have to accept he is guilt until proven innocent which i doubt

i think u should be happy that one of the corrupt government offical is going down unless proven otherwise

Gbawe:

M.o.ron. Try and keep up !!!!The Ibori scenario was political as well !! Is he not the same Ibori cleared of over a 100 charges of corruption in a Nigerian Court under Aondoakaa and Yar Adua? Is it not the same Ibori that Yar Adua was ready to ridicule our international image for? If Ibori had not crossed the line seriously, as the Southern ringleader and SS "traitor" to GEJ , during the Yar Adua health sage then he would be another PDP looter enjoying his 'stash' today!!! Simple as that !!!!

For the avoidance of doubt, I want GEJ to see this thing with Tinubu to the end. Let us see who has more to lose. Clever folks know this is about two things (1) GEJ wants tenure elongation and (2) Obasanjo and the PDP want the SW back. Tinubu stands in the way of both . Tinubu has defeated them tactically and strategically . Now the new terrain is the partisan use of executive power OBJ was famous for. The miscalculation of GEJ, egged on by "do or die" mentors who have already gotten him into trouble he is yet to overcome ala 'poisoned chalice', begin with this efforts that sees him thinking simplistically that he wins once Tinubu is politically neutralised.

A thief is a thief is a thief and Tinubu is a thief; if you like, weave enough tales by moonlight to tickle the foolish, it won't change a thing.
Why are you crying more about his plight than Tinubu's wife na? Lol!

Dude, you have been unmasked as a foolish, fork-tongued hypocrite. Anyways, the country will vomit your type, all of you criminals are about to be swept away with a powerful broom.

We all should jubiliate at any attempt by any government in Nigeria to prosecute any of the thieving 'leaders'.  It really should not matter whether a political vendetta is responsible for the aggressive prosecution of any of these thieves.

As long as justice is served, all is well. Ibori cried political vendetta, but in the end, he will get the opportunity to defend himself in court. Let Tinubu face the music and prove his innocence in court. Anyone indirectly calling for an end to Tinubu's prosecution deserves to be shot alongside the thieving leaders.  Shikena.

Thank you very much.

I do not know what is wrong with these hopeless idi0ts.
Tinubu has sucked the pocket of Lagos state for over 10 yrs, real Lagosians suffer like there is no tomorrow, but yet some f00ls are still coming here attempting to take the bullet for this greedy thief.
I just don't get it. sometimes I wonder who are the true enemies of this country.

alj_harem:

Gbawe my brother I understand what u mean

but is VERY WELL advicable for us nigerians to first be happy if there is any presecution against any former government offical because[i] there is no smoke without fire[/i]

for them to have charges against him, then there are some element of truth in it. That you should know

after so many years of corruption from military to civilian (PDP) I no long trust any government again and more so Tinubu and you and not blame me and others like me.

Lets say tiunbu made his money when he was not yet elected etc there is no way he could have generated that much money to be conducting elections, building houses, buying lands etc

but let even say all i mentioned are all lies by PDP against him (ACN)

at least you have to accept he is guilt until proven innocent which i doubt

i think u should be happy that one of the corrupt government offical is going down unless proven otherwise

Furthermore, I am surprised that Gbawe is so bothered about this issue because this is a Tinubu he believes in so much and all the allegation they leveled against him can not be true, so why is he (Gbawe) crying from the roof? At least, it can not be that he is afraid that his mentor is about to be jailed since he is sure that his mentor is not corrupt and not a liar.

If Gbawe sincerely stand for accountability and not corruption, you should accept the case against Tinubu as a welcome development. From what i see in the case, there is no way they would manipulate Tinubu to jail if none of those allegations were true. So if u agree with that, why are u bothered? U are shouting that the case is politically motivated but can u tell me any case of corruption in Nigeria that was not  politically motivated?

Political motivation of corruption cases has become a norm in Nigeria so such point can not be a premise upon which you would base your argument to exonerate him. We cant move forward if we employ a thief as a watchdog against other thieves. That is not the kind of development we are craving for.

I can feel your pain Gbawe, you dont want to look like a loser because u have spent ur precious time defending the ACN here over a long span of time  but sometimes u have to shun sentiment and face reality if you want to be reasonable.

My advice to you!

Regardless of the outcome of this case, one thing is certain after After September 21, Tinubu will slow down a bit with being Lagos state bank acct manager, Fashola will have a stand to be able to do his job better and more attention will be paid to how Lagos state manages what comes in and what goes out (in terms of the acct payable and acct receivable)

Anvaller:

Furthermore, I am surprised that Gbawe is so bothered about this issue because this is a Tinubu he believes in so much and all the allegation they leveled against him can not be true, so why is he (Gbawe) crying from the roof? At least, it can not be that he is afraid that his mentor is about to be jailed since he is sure that his mentor is not corrupt and not a liar.

If Gbawe sincerely stand for accountability and not corruption, you should accept the case against Tinubu as a welcome development. From what i see in the case, there is no way they would manipulate Tinubu to jail if none of those allegations were true. So if u agree with that, why are u bothered? U are shouting that the case is politically motivated but can u tell me any case of corruption in Nigeria that was not  politically motivated?

Political motivation of corruption cases has become a norm in Nigeria so such point can not be a premise upon which you would base your argument to exonerate him. We cant move forward if we employ a thief as a watchdog against other thieves. That is not the kind of development we are craving for.

I can feel your pain Gbawe, you dont want to look like a loser because u have spent your precious time defending the ACN here over a long span of time  but sometimes u have to shun sentiment and face reality if you want to be reasonable.

My advice to you!

What on Earth are you talking about ? I don't think you have been reading what others have written properly. Show , in this thread or anywhere else on Nairaland, where I hold Tinubu to be innocent of any charge of corruption or misconduct. Please oblige the forum and show this because nothing is worse than those who debate from a position of falseness.

No one is saying the corrupt must not be punished or that misconduct must be allowed to carry the day but it seems we are utterly 'bush' (totally lacking in political sophistication) when we allow a government of corruption to pretend it is dealing with corruption. It matters not to some of you that the most corrupt in the land are in team GEJ. This is not how it is done worldwide. In politically sophisticated Countries, citizens would unanimously conclude vociferously [/b]that Government , if it is to be taken seriously, deal with corruption within its own rank before it has the moral authority to prosecute those in the opposition .

The situation becomes even more deplorable and condemnable when we have a Government abetting corruption with how it has rejuvenated and empowered ,[b] everywhere, those who have been corrupt and inept all their political lives like Anenih. We have a long way to go in Nigeria when we cannot see through the cheap ruse of those who are the masters of corruption.

Beaf:

A thief is a thief is a thief and Tinubu is a thief; if you like, weave enough tales by moonlight to tickle the foolish, it won't change a thing.
Why are you crying more about his plight than Tinubu's wife na? Lol!

Dude, you have been unmasked as a foolish, fork-tongued hypocrite. Anyways, the country will vomit your type, all of you criminals are about to be swept away with a powerful broom.

419ner and paid azzlicker plus uber sycophant , rolled into one, sef dey talk about "unmasked" . Joke of the decade 

Gbawe:

What on Earth are you talking about ? I don't think you have been reading what others have written properly. Show , in this thread or anywhere else on Nairaland, where I hold Tinubu to be innocent of any charge of corruption or misconduct. Please oblige the forum and show this because nothing is worse than those who debate from a position of falseness.

No one is saying the corrupt must not be punished or that misconduct must be allowed to carry the day but it seems we are utterly 'bush' (totally lacking in political sophistication) when we allow a government of corruption to pretend it is dealing with corruption. It matters not to some of you that the most corrupt in the land are in team GEJ. This is not how it is done worldwide. In politically sophisticated Countries, citizens would unanimously conclude [b]vociferously [/b]that Government , if it is to be taken seriously, deal with corruption within its own rank before it has the moral authority to prosecute those in the opposition .

The situation becomes even more deplorable and condemnable when we have a Government abetting corruption with how it has rejuvenated and empowered , everywhere, those who have been corrupt and inept all their political lives like Anenih. We have a long way to go in Nigeria when we cannot see through the cheap ruse of those who are the masters of corruption.

Gbawe. I agree with you on the corruption bit of PDP.

But for Now there is nothing we can do about it and it is Tinubu turn for now

If tinubu is found innocent, then kudos to Tinubu and his party and it shows they are more reliable than  PDP and they Might win more seats next election proved that ACN governors do well.

You need to understand Nigerians, We hate individuals defending government officals

so it is good as[b] YOU[/b] took it as a challenge to find out if tinubu was corrupt or not. and that is the way it is meant to be.  

Gbawe:

What on Earth are you talking about ? I don't think you have been reading what others have written properly. Show , in this thread or anywhere else on Nairaland, where I hold Tinubu to be innocent of any charge of corruption or misconduct. Please oblige the forum and show this because nothing is worse than those who debate from a position of falseness.

No one is saying the corrupt must not be punished or that misconduct must be allowed to carry the day but it seems we are utterly 'bush' (totally lacking in political sophistication) when we allow a government of corruption to pretend it is dealing with corruption. It matters not to some of you that the most corrupt in the land are in team GEJ. This is not how it is done worldwide. In politically sophisticated Countries, citizens would unanimously conclude vociferously [/b]that Government , if it is to be taken seriously, deal with corruption within its own rank before it has the moral authority to prosecute those in the opposition .

The situation becomes even more deplorable and condemnable when we have a Government abetting corruption with how it has rejuvenated and empowered ,[b] everywhere, those who have been corrupt and inept all their political lives like Anenih. We have a long way to go in Nigeria when we cannot see through the cheap ruse of those who are the masters of corruption.

You seem to think the readers of this thread are dim or didn't notice where you made weird statements, [size=14pt]eg that Tinubu is necessary.[/size]
How can Tinubu a drug peddling thief and fraud be "necessary" to anybody if they aren't his type? Thugs, Druggies, thieves, exhorter and various other area boy types?

[size=14pt]Gbawe, how can a thief be "necessary?"[/size]
You only expose yourself as a cheap, lying hypocrite that would sell morality for a nickel and a dime.

Beaf:

You seem to think the readers of this thread are dim or didn't notice where you made weird statements, [size=14pt]eg that Tinubu is necessary.[/size]
How can Tinubu a drug peddling thief and fraud be "necessary" to anybody if they aren't his type? Thugs, Druggies, thieves, exhorter and various other area boy types?

[size=14pt]Gbawe, how can a thief be "necessary?"[/size]
You only expose yourself as a cheap, lying hypocrite that would sell morality for a nickel and a dime.

These are the sort of empty rants you are known for . You will only look foolish tomorrow when your utterances are exposed to be that of someone writing without a clue. Everything you write now about Tinubu you more or less wrote about Dokpesi after the Independence day bombing. Sadly for you , Dokpesi , instead of the life in prison you touted, went on to be an election campaigner for GEJ.

It kinda gets difficult to sycophantically defend those who stand for nothing and are deceptive because of how totally unpredictable they are. Abeg carry on. Earn your money. Let us see what comes of this. It won't be the first time you staked your reputation on GEJ "dealing" with certain folks only for your hero to embrace and assimilate them into the 'team'.

PDP and ACN can die and go straight to hell. CPC should have been given a chance to fix what is wrong with this country.
Indiscipline and Corruption.

Gbawe:

These are the sort of empty rants you are known for . You will only look foolish tomorrow when your utterances are exposed to be that of someone writing without a clue. Everything you write now about Tinubu you more or less wrote about Dokpesi after the Independence day bombing. Sadly for you , Dokpesi , instead of the life in prison you touted, went on to be an election campaigner for GEJ.

It kinda gets difficult to sycophantically defend those who stand for nothing and are deceptive because of how totally unpredictable they are. Abeg carry on. Earn your money. Let us see what comes of this. It won't be the first time you staked your reputation on GEJ "dealing" with certain folks only for your hero to embrace and assimilate them into the 'team'.

So you are claiming the Toronto asiwaju is innocent? Lol!
Dude, go take a pill! The sorrow of Toronto's plight is driving you insane.

. . .necessary thief - Gbawe
No!!

10 foreign accounts habaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, eko o ni baje o

IYA NGBALI:

10 foreign accounts habaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, eko o ni baje o

O baje ti. Tinubu fe ko owo eko je. Ole ajibo le, ole.

its time for Jonathan to get back @ Tinubu for helping ACN to sweep PDP off the southwest and a few other parts of the country, well let`s see how it goes, Jagaban Borgu is ready for all of them, I guess OBJ and a few of his loyalits knows what will happen to them, Just like the Atiku Vs OBJ scandal, it didnt get anywhere,

I have always had my very strong doubts about Mr Bola Ahmed Tinubu, right from the days of his certificate forgery scandal when the likes of Gani Fawehinmi (and a few other principled men) stood up to condemn the falsehood which Mr. Tinubu tried to foist upon Nigerians (while Beko Ransome-Kuti inexplicably betrayed all that I thought he stood for by looking the other way). I remember BAT's lacklustre performance as governor and his close relationship with local enforcers in the state chapter of the NURTW (and other parasites and undesirables). I remember the show of shame in which he threw raw cash into the crowd like some modern day robin hood at the commissioning of a statue in his likeness (sheer vanity ) on Marina, Lagos Island about 3 years ago. There are many, many more examples of why Mr Tinubu is, to put it bluntly, simply unfit to hold high political office. And what's this about narcotics and money laundering?

If BAT has violated the law, he should be punished. Severely. There is no room for equivocation here. And yet, there is something deeply repellent in the attempts to charge him while nothing is being done about equally venal men in the top hierarchy of the ruling party. The PDP is using 150 million souls as pawns on a chessboard with its selective justice. It is deeply (and wickedly) cynical to use the law (through the EFCC & ICPC during the OBJ & UMYA years and now the Code of Conduct Bureau by the GEJ administration) in the manner the PDP has done for the past 12 years. The feeble pursuit (by the OBJ & UMYA administrations) of small fry while the "big guns" (who take medicine and milk out of the mouths of babies) were allowed to walk free (because of their links to the ruling party) will stand against OBJ & UMYA forever. That is the truth.

The fallout of the PDP's brand of "justice" is the pack mentality that has seized us right here on this board and perhaps we should begin to look at Nigeria's problems more from a "class warfare" viewpoint). How can we take sides in this matter? These men have won when we all begin to exhibit the "they may be bastards, but they are our bastards" mentality.

Tinubu should be charged. But in the dock beside him, we should also have OBJ, Anenih, Ibori, GEJ, Sani Yerima, etc.

Insist on it.

Anything less is a betrayal of your children and their generation's right to start life on a clean slate.

People like Gbawe and this dud "above" have been shouting that PDP is trying to persecute Tinubu and that they should start with the PDP thieves first. But wait a minute. The last guys that was sent to jail was who again? Right! I remember: it was Bode George. Oh was he not PDP and is still PDP? Yeah I am right. He is very PDP. As PDP as it can get. Oh I forgot. Gbawe is suffering from short memories. He actually did celebrate the imprisonment of Bode George. But now it is Tinubu's turn and Gbawe is not happy with the corruption fight again.

Gbawe please can you make up your mind. Fight corruption or not fight corruption? where do you stand? Please declare!

Honestly, if Tinubu is truthfully found wanting (breaking the law) he should be punished. thats my position however i honestly dont think the tribunal can pull this through. This isnt their first time and i doubt if this will be an exception.
Besides i like Tinubu's comment, read thus:

Confirming that he received the summon, Tinubu said in a statement by Abimbola that: “The summons was signed by the chairman of the Bureau. It was dated 6 September, 2011. “The summons alleged the contravention of Code of Conduct for public officers, whilst Asiwaju Tinubu was governor of Lagos State, by operating several foreign bank accounts, between 1999 and 2007, in alleged contravention of Section 7 of the Code of Conduct Bureau and Tribunal Act, Cap 56 LFN, 1990.

“The Bureau in the service invited Asiwaju Tinubu to appear before it, in Abuja, on Wednesday, 21 September 2011 at 10 am. Asiwaju Tinubu wishes to state that after years of threats, political mudslinging and media trial on the impending allegations, a formal invitation to commence trial has finally come, which he welcomes. “He said that as a law abiding citizen, when he was informed that the summons had arrived, he directed his staff to duly accept it; and not evade service.

This is in conformity with his profound respect for the rule of law. [b]He wishes to state that as the battle now shifts to the Code of Conduct Tribunal, those who allege must prove. PERFECTO He also welcomes the opportunity to put an end to years of insinuations, unproven allegations and politically orchestrated persecution.
[/b]
“The National Leader of the ACN calls on everyone to keep calm but be vigilant, while the Nigerian judiciary do justice in this matter.”

^^^ So what were you expecting him to say?

Gbawe,

You are making a very big mistake, trying to be fair to people who have no idea what fair means. That's why you sort of agreed that "Tinubu was a necessary evil" even when the man has not been convicted of any crime. This never-do-wells will not even call a convicted criminal like Bode George a thief. You remember how many times you asked Beaf "has Delta gone to the dogs?", has he answered till now?

There is no middle ground, you have to support a side, and that's after considering both the negatives and positives of that side. There is no perfection anywhere.

Innocent until proven guilty.

edicolove:

^^^ So what were you expecting him to say?

Nothing more than what he did and he said it well fearlessly. The battle now shifts to the tribunal. This will definitely be interesting. i have long waited for this.

edicolove:

People like Gbawe and this dud "above" have been shouting that PDP is trying to persecute Tinubu and that they should start with the PDP thieves first. But wait a minute. The last guys that was sent to jail was who again? Right! I remember: it was Bode George. Oh was he not PDP and is still PDP? Yeah I am right. He is very PDP. As PDP as it can get. Oh I forgot. Gbawe is suffering from short memories. He actually did celebrate the imprisonment of Bode George. But now it is Tinubu's turn and Gbawe is not happy with the corruption fight again.

My friend, we are talking about the Present PDP Government being surrounded by the most corrupt in the land (OBJ, Anenih et al) and directly employing those who are corrupt (Haliru Bello et al) into influential office . This persecution of Tinubu is political and nothing more. In any case , I have said that this Government should go ahead and prove its case against Tinubu. Simple. Let us see what folks like you will say when the case is thrown out or is swept under the table in the end because it was never presented out of sincerity or a genuine desire to see justice done. Some of you should tell us whatever happened to the many 'gra gra' cases , now years old, brought against the likes of Fani-Kayode et al.

Gbawe please can you make up your mind. Fight corruption or not fight corruption? where do you stand? Please declare!

My mother did not raise a fool . To that extent I cannot support the foolish notion that a Government stupendously tolerant of corruption , participating in corruption and actually empowering it , will be the same one that will fight corruption sincerely. That is utter garbage. You can keep decieving yourself. I choose , as most with common sense will also do, to believe that a President who used corruption (virtually bribed everyone) to win an election, is surrounded by the most hideously corrupt in the land (Anenih, OBJ et al) and directly employs corrupt individuals into important office (Haliru Bello) is not the President to fight corruption sincerely. It is as simple as that. We are facing the same "zero tolerance for corruption" deception experienced under Yar Adua while the friends and associate of our former President were some of the most corrupt in the land carting away billions unnoticed !!!! Ethnocentric and religious bigotry will never allow some Nigerians to see what is obvious.

http://saharareporters.com/news-page/jonathan-nominates-siemens-bribe-taker-haliru-bello-mohammed-minister

Jonathan Nominates Siemens Bribe Taker, Haliru Bello Mohammed, For Minister
Posted: June 22, 2011 - 15:53
Jonathan nominees: Haliru Bello Mohammed (L) and Hamisu Mairago
By SaharaReporters, New York

In a discomforting sign that Nigeria’s new president will travel a familiar old track after all, Goodluck Jonathan has nominated two questionable men, Haliru Bello Mohammed and Yusuf Hamisu Abubakar Mairago, for ministerial appointments.

Mohammed is famously known as one of the beneficiaries of the infamous £8.6 billion Siemens international bribery scandal that spanned several countries and embarrassed Nigeria, while Mairago, who has been nominated to represent Kaduna, was the executive director of the Petroleum Technology Development Fund (PTDF).   He was arrested and detained by the EFCC for close to one year over his fraudulent activities in the PTDF.

Mr. Mohammed has previously been Minister for Communication.  Recently, he was also the deputy chair of Mr. Jonathan's party, the People's Democratic Party (PDP).

In the Siemens scandal, several other Nigerian officials besides Mohammed were named by Reinhard Siekaczek, who faced charges of bribery in a Munich court in 2007. Others named include Tajudeen Olanrewaju, Cornelius Adebayo,  Alhaji Elewi , and Professor Jibril Aminu, a former Minister of Petroleum Resources who went on to become a PDP Senator.

The Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) did investigate the scandal but no prosecution of the main culprits ever arose from it even though the former Ministers reportedly admitted to taking the cash payments from Siemens.

Jonathan’s nomination of tainted officials to high office is an important early signal either of weakness, or of readiness to betray the promises he made to voters as he campaigned for office, or both.  On almost every campaign stop, he promised to engage in the “transformation” of Nigeria, including combating corruption.

For that purpose, some Nigerians claimed to have voted for him but not his party, the PDP, which they said they loathed. 

Akanbi_edu:

Gbawe,

You are making a very big mistake, trying to be fair to people who have no idea what fair means. That's why you sort of agreed that "Tinubu was a necessary evil" even when the man has not been convicted of any crime. This never-do-wells will not even call a convicted criminal like Bode George a thief. You remember how many times you asked Beaf "has Delta gone to the dogs?", has he answered till now?

There is no middle ground, you have to support a side, and that's after considering both the negatives and positives of that side. There is no perfection anywhere.

Innocent until proven guilty.

I actually like your post. But the fallacy of your post is that the south west and Tinubu have been trying to sell the idea that they are actually fighting for the good of everyone. I would respect them more if they simply come out and say what they want because they do have a right to demand something for themselves. But claiming they are fighting for the Nigerian interest when they are in fact fighting for their own interest is what makes it hypocritical. And that is where people like Gbawe fall flat on their face. People like us dont hide our positions. If you ask me if GEJ was perfect I would say a loud NO! But if you ask me if he is heading in the right drection, I would say I see good signs he is. If you ask me if he satisfies my interest, I would say a loud yes. Because the north did rule us for 39 years and produced nothing and usurped our lands and resources. We want to have a say in our destiny now and for that we will support GEJ and encourage him. Does that mean we want him to loot. Far from it because if he does loot and do nothing, we will still suffer at the end even if he is our brother. The loot is not going to go into our pockets. But we do believe that for once, a good intention-ed person is at the saddle and would put in is utmost best because he has a point to prove. Believe me when I say no northern leader has a point to prove. That is why every northern leader that ruled from independence (Barring Murtala who had a very short spell) was a massive failure. I am old enough to know that.

Have you noticed the barage of attacks against GEJ and his team? That my friend is a clear sign these same opposition will rather see him fail than have him succeed because what they want is not a new and better Nigeria but a Nigeria they control. Their definition of a new Nigeria is a Nigeria they completely control. This is a link to Okonjo Iweala's reply to the latest attacks. Why attack her at a time when she is about to take the Nigerian problem on.? Why have they not brought this out all this while? Is wikileaks now the bible to be taken as truth? Is Julian Assange now a saint who so love the world he is willing to change it for good? These are hypocrisies I see clearly.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/09/why-im-under-attack-okonjo-iweala/

@Gbawe wrote

My mother did not raise a fool . To that extent I cannot support the foolish notion that a Government stupendously tolerant of corruption , participating in corruption and actually empowering it , will be the same one that will fight corruption sincerely. That is utter garbage. You can keep decieving yourself. I choose , as most with common sense will also do, to believe that a President who used corruption (virtually bribed everyone) to win an election, is surrounded by the most hideously corrupt in the land (Anenih, OBJ et al) and directly employs corrupt individuals into important office (Haliru Bello) is not the President to fight corruption sincerely. It is as simple as that. We are facing the same "zero tolerance for corruption" deception experienced under Yar Adua while the friends and associate of our former President were some of the most corrupt in the land carting away billions unnoticed !!!! Ethnocentric and religious bigotry will never allow some Nigerians to see what is obvious.

http://saharareporters.com/news-page/jonathan-nominates-siemens-bribe-taker-haliru-bello-mohammed-minister

Gbawe, I am really getting disappointed in you. I was partially enjoying your post until I got to the above.
First you became so evasive and lost track of the whole discuss and finally veered into falsehood.
Tell me, So which government would have been so saintly in Nigeria since according to you, you need a totally incorruptible government to fight corruption?
So we should assume if "Tinubu and the forty thieves" was president of Nigeria, he would be saintly enough to fight corruption eh?
Why are you wallowing in the proverbial pot calling kettle black?
Is ACN less corrupt than the PDP? I live in Lagos so you are not talking to an uninformed person. I encounter the ACN government almost on a daily basis and I know the corruption going on within. AND IT IS MASSIVE!
Then to make the whole matter worse, you now went on to quote Saharareporters. That was the last straw. Saharareporters are the worst kind of journalism there is. They are PAID ALARMIST at best! They have no decorum and publish falsehood with impunity. They practice the typical Nigerian brand of journalism and even go as far as blackmail people. I dont read crap from Saharareporters. It is too demeaning and if you have to quote them to butress your point, you have just lost a bit of respect from me. 

edicolove:

Believe me when I say no northern leader has a point to prove. That is why every northern leader that ruled from independence (Barring Murtala who had a very short spell) was a massive failure. I am old enough to know that.

In the end , the ugly blanket ethnic generalisation of others , that motivates the utterances of some Nairalanders, alway comes out  . Well, "believe me when I say" all black men are criminals . How is that for ugly and distasteful blanket generalisations? How can you say the nonsense above? Is it GEJ that has a point to prove? What point is that when he is associating with and empowering all the AGIPs , and most ruinous hands in Nigeria's history, from all corners of Nigeria to include the North that you clearly hate and are bigoted against.

if you ask me if he satisfies my interest, I would say a loud yes. Because the north did rule us for 39 years and produced nothing and usurped our lands and resources.

The only response applicable to you , now firmly in the category of Beaf et al with how you wish to portray GEJ as something the reality on the ground disproves grossly, is that which I have given already below. In fact the bolded sections makes sense in your case given what you have finally admitted above.

My mother did not raise a fool . To that extent I cannot support the foolish notion that a Government stupendously tolerant of corruption , participating in corruption and actually empowering it , will be the same one that will fight corruption sincerely. That is utter garbage. You can keep decieving yourself. I choose , as most with common sense will also do, to believe that a President who used corruption (virtually bribed everyone) to win an election, is surrounded by the most hideously corrupt in the land (Anenih, OBJ et al) and directly employs corrupt individuals into important office (Haliru Bello) is not the President to fight corruption sincerely. It is as simple as that. We are facing the same "zero tolerance for corruption" deception experienced under Yar Adua while the friends and associate of our former President were some of the most corrupt in the land carting away billions unnoticed !!!! Ethnocentric and religious bigotry will never allow some Nigerians to see what is obvious.

@Gbawe

From Wikipedia: Bigoted
1. Obstinately convinced of the superiority or correctness of one's own opinions and prejudiced against those who hold different opinions.
2. Expressing or characterized by prejudice and intolerance.

You are one of those fools who run along with social cliches that the media make up to push their own agendas. From the definition above, you are found out to be a real jerk as clearly I have said that my stand is to defend my interest not to prove any superior opinion. You are one of those who have swallowed the media lie that tolerance means agreeing to everything someone else says. Humans are made to have diversity in opinion and to defend their interests. when I disagree with you, it doesnt make me intolerant or a bigot. I am simply different. I become a bigot or am intolerant when I try to force you to be like me. I never said the north should be like me, I simply said I have a right to my self existence and well being. I really hope you can understand all this analysis as your disposition seems to prove otherwise.

TOLERANCE IS ALLOWING YOU TO BE WHILE I AM ALLOWED TO BE AND MY WELL BEING IS GUARANTEED. WHEN THE NORTH EXPLOITS THE OIL OF THE SOUTH SOUTH AND BUILD A PIPE FROM WARRI TO KADUNA AND SQUANDERS THE RESOURCES FOR 40 YEARS AND YOU SAY I SHOULD NOT BE ANGRY AND YOU TERM MY ANGER AND DISAPPROVAL AS INTOLERANT, THEN YOU ARE AN HYPOCRITE AND A FOOL.