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Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by LagosShia: 11:44am On Jan 30, 2012
[size=14pt]"let it be known to you all that the bible wasn't in it's entirety inspired by God cos most of the books in it especially in the old testament was just a report of an event that sometimes doesn't represent God's inspiration" [/size] -"Bulldog"

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-857256.0.html#msg10079901
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by LagosShia: 11:47am On Jan 30, 2012
congratulations "Bulldog"!

now you have to tell us,which are the verses that you accept are "inspired" and which are not "inspired".which can i use against you as representing God's "inspired word" and which can i use against the bible as "not inspired" in what is believed by christians to be a book that is the "word of God".

thanks and congrats once more,in all sinecerity.

may God bless you and guide you to the straight path!
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by LagosShia: 12:00pm On Jan 30, 2012
"frosbel" Admits That The Bible Is Made Of "stone-age" Laws
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-857645.32.html#msg10071745
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Bulldog(m): 1:00pm On Jan 30, 2012
Yeah right. And i stand by my word because it's quite obvious that there a large difference between the laws of moses as opposed to the ten commandments . the koran inspired by the all illitrate allah In a previous sura says 2:256 Let there be no
compulsion in religion:,
And not very far away from the that again he blurted out 8:12 I will instill terror
into the hearts of the
unbelievers: smite ye
above their necks and
smite all their finger-
tips off them
only a fool of a god is meant to make a statement and then make another statement completely abrogating his previous statement. But it's quite obvious which one muslims follow. Lol
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by LagosShia: 1:44pm On Jan 30, 2012
[size=18pt]Aren't there some verses of the Qur'an that condone "killing the infidel"? [/size]
By Huda, About.com Guide

Question: Aren't there some verses of the Qur'an that condone "killing the infidel"?
Answer: The Qur'an commands Muslims to stick up for themselves in a defensive battle -- i.e. if an enemy army attacks, then Muslims are to fight against that army until they stop their aggression. All of the verses that speak about fighting/war in the Qur'an are in this context.
There are some specific verses that are very often "snipped" out of context, either by critics of Islam discussing "jihadism," or by misguided Muslims themselves who wish to justify their aggressive tactics.


"Slay Them" - If They Attack You First
For example, one verse (in its snipped version) reads: "slay them wherever you catch them" (Qur'an 2:191). But who is this referring to? Who are "they" that this verse discusses? The preceding and following verses give the correct context:
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter, But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful, If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (2:190-193).
It is clear from the context that these verses are discussing a defensive war, when a Muslim community is attacked without reason, oppressed and prevented from practicing their faith. In these circumstances, permission is given to fight back -- but even then Muslims are instructed not to transgress limits, and to cease fighting as soon as the attacker gives up. Even in these circumstances, Muslim are only to fight directly against those who are attacking them, not innocent bystanders or non-combatants.


"Fight the Pagans" - If They Break Treaties
A similar verse can be found in chapter 9, verse 5 -- which in its snipped, out of context version could read: "fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)." Again, the preceding and following verses give the context.
This verse was revealed during a historical period when the small Muslim community had entered into treaties with neighboring tribes (Jewish, Christian, and pagan). Several of the pagan tribes had violated the terms of their treaty, secretly aiding an enemy attack against the Muslim community. The verse directly before this one instructs the Muslims to continue to honor treaties with anyone who has not since betrayed them, because fulfilling agreements is considered a righteous action. Then the verse continues, that those who have violated the terms of the treaty have declared war, so fight them, (as quoted above).

Directly after this permission to fight, the same verse continues, "but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them, for God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful." The subsequent verses instruct the Muslims to grant asylum to any member of the pagan tribe/army who asks for it, and again reminds that "as long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for God loves the righteous."


Conclusion
Any verse that is quoted out of context misses the whole point of the message of the Qur'an. Nowhere in the Qur'an can be found support for indiscriminate slaughter, the killing of non-combatants, or murder of innocent persons in 'payback' for another people's alleged crimes.
The Islamic teachings on this subject can be summed up in the following verses (Qur'an 60:7-cool:
"It may be that God will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For God has power (over all things), and God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
God does not forbid you, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loves those who are just."

http://islam.about.com/od/terrorism/f/terrorism_verse.htm
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by LagosShia: 2:12pm On Jan 30, 2012
Bulldog:

Yeah right. And i stand by my word because it's quite obvious that there a large difference between the laws of moses as opposed to the ten commandments .

i dont think verses from the bible,that christians see as "the word of God" should be divided into those of Moses and those of God.you have rightly said there are verses that are not inspired by God,which therefore have no business to be in the bible.therefore you should face the fact that those words that are not inspired cannot also be from Moses,because Moses was a prophet of God who was inspired and God spoke to him and you should respect him no less than you christians respect Paul.in this way,you can clearly see that the bible is a corrupt document and you can build that on your earlier statement.as for Moses,here is what the bible itself says about him:

Deuteronomy 34:10
And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,

Numbers 12:8
With him I speak face to face, clearly and not in riddles; he sees the form of the LORD. Why then were you not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?"


God approves of Moses (as),and promises to send another prophet like him:

Deuteronomy 18:18
I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him.


now let us take a look at Paul in the New Testament and see the confusion about him and yet christians hold him in high regards and believe he was "inspired":

Acts 9:7
"And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man".

Acts 22:9
"And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me".

Acts 26:14
"And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks".

so which are we to believe:

1.) hearing a voice but seeing no man
2.) seeing the light but not hearing
3.) Paul heard the voice

According to him personally,was Paul inspired or not inspired?


Yes He Was:
2 Timothy 3:16
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness".

No! He Was Not:
1 Corinthians 7:12
"But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away".

Romans 3:7
“But if the truth of God through my lie abounded unto his glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner?”

Philippians 1:18
“But what does it matter? Nothing matters except that, in one way or another, people are told the message about Christ, whether with honest or dishonest motives, and I’m happy about that. Yes, I will continue to be happy.”

2Corinthians 12:16
“But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with guile.“
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Bulldog(m): 2:57pm On Jan 30, 2012
Your topic says:
Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired"
and i've proven my point and you claim it's not valid. How are you in the position to know since you are in islam? Seems strange that a compulsive liar for allah capable of killing for allah will be telling me what the bible implies when he cant even defend his koran without falling into a muddle of contradiction. Lol
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by LagosShia: 3:06pm On Jan 30, 2012
"Bulldog"

what you are doing is not fair.i am not your enemy.in fact i am now closer to you than your fellow christians who are bible-thumpers believing everything in the bible is the "inspired word of God".

how can you say i dismissed your point as "not valid" when i even congratulated you for your point?

please try and know your enemy.i am definitely not!

may Allah guide you to see the truth for what it truly is.
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Judek2(m): 3:17pm On Jan 30, 2012
DELUDED HUMAN BEING.

Why cant you get a life and stop spamming religion section.
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Bulldog(m): 3:21pm On Jan 30, 2012
Again i asked you a simple question and you go online and copy a totally unrelated fraud and used it as an answer. What i asked is that since the bible isn't all inspired by God, the laws of moses is understood to be different from that of God. And i cited two contradictory quotes from the koran and demands to know why allah was backbiting himself and you went ahead to start explaining reasons for killings in the koran which was quite a baloney anyway. The writer of the article even concluded by saying that a quote out of context is meaningless (which is a fact i've been trying to get to your thick muslim head time without number). Just read all your crap quotes on exodus, deutronomy, numbers and other and the rest. My question still remains unanswered
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Bulldog(m): 3:27pm On Jan 30, 2012
And am good at believing. I believe you said muslims dont attack till they are attacked which is completely understandable cos even dogs will do the same when attacked. But why the hell will a buddist family be attacked and slaughtered like animals. In this case who attacked first? The helpless family or the muslims? Have you told me another Lie?
plappville:

THAILAND: Muslims behead a 9-year-old boy


Then they hanged or beheaded the rest of his family. Yet another example of Muslim on Buddhist violence in a country where Muslims are only a small minority




http://endtimestoday.com/2011/05/09/thailand-muslims-behead-a-9-year-old-boy-warning-graphic-images/comment-page-2/

Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Bulldog(m): 3:52pm On Jan 30, 2012
LagosShia:

"Bulldog"

what you are doing is not fair.i am not your enemy.in fact i am now closer to you than your fellow christians who are bible-thumpers believing everything in the bible is the "inspired word of God".

how can you say i dismissed your point as "not valid" when i even congratulated you for your point?

please try and know your enemy.i am definitely not!

may Allah guide you to see the truth for what it truly is.
i am not the kind of person to start going for the the egg of a bird that ate my grain and leave the bird to go free. I know what's the threat to humanity, it ain't you but it's islam and from your thinking you being close to me will only mean am about to be murdered anytime anywhere. And it's not that am fighting with you cos i'm invited here by you to be humiliated i guess
LagosShia:

^^^

"Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired":

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-858394.0.html


after this,i really dont see what "Bulldog" is struggling so hard to prove.
but it turns out you didn't even have a case. Stop deceiving people and lying cos i know deep down in your heart, you know the truth. Jesus christ is really the son of God and he alone is the saviour, allah only destroys and deceives.
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by LagosShia: 10:29pm On Jan 30, 2012
Bulldog:

Again i asked you a simple question and you go online and copy a totally unrelated fraud and used it as an answer. What i asked is that since the bible isn't all inspired by God, the laws of moses is understood to be different from that of God. And i cited two contradictory quotes from the koran and demands to know why allah was backbiting himself and you went ahead to start explaining reasons for killings in the koran which was quite a baloney anyway. The writer of the article even concluded by saying that a quote out of context is meaningless (which is a fact i've been trying to get to your thick muslim head time without number). Just read all your crap quotes on exodus, deutronomy, numbers and other and the rest. My question still remains unanswered

Oppress Muslim= Defense
No Oppression against Muslims=no compulsion in religion and coexistence.

very simple.but you like barking and making things personal.im not here for personal exchanges.i dont know you and you dont know me.either bring facts,discuss them and debate or keep quiet.

as for the picture,you are circulating,firstly i dont know the origin of that picture.it could be one more missionary deception and lie.the website you posted it from is not a credible news source.so when you have such news quote credible news sites and not hate-mongering anti-islamic websites.

as for the picture itself (i.e. assuming it is true and not forged or a lie),i keep saying that the actions of muslims do not necessarily reflect the image of islam.and let me be plain with you here,if the likes of boko haram like let them butcher your entire family and chop off their heads and throw to the dogs for food.that is not my business and it is not the business of Islam.you dont use the evil actions of criminals to attack islam and provoke the innocent and peace loving muslims who are the majority.(two wrongs dont make a right).if you do that and i set eyes on you,i personally will copy Oyedepo and start my own "islamic slapping ministry" and give you a very hot slap! grin
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Bulldog(m): 9:33am On Jan 31, 2012
Please readers how does this
LagosShia:

Oppress Muslim= Defense
No Oppression against Muslims=no compulsion in religion and coexistence.

very simple.but you like barking and making things personal.im not here for personal exchanges.i dont know you and you dont know me.either bring facts,discuss them and debate or keep quiet.
address this?
Bulldog:

the koran inspired by the all illitrate allah In a previous sura says 2:256 Let there be no
compulsion in religion:,
And not very far away from the that again he blurted out 8:12 I will instill terror
into the hearts of the
unbelievers: smite ye
above their necks and
smite all their finger-
tips off them
only a fool of a god is meant to make a statement and then make another statement completely abrogating his previous statement.

Keep laughing at yourself. Lol
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Bulldog(m): 10:00am On Jan 31, 2012
You said i shouldn't use the acts of muslims to attack islam while in the actual sense it's islam that makes muslims commit those crimes. Just below you'll see the quote in your koran that justifies the killings and the jihads. Apart from that shia muslims and sunnis likewise are empowered by koran 3:28 through taqiyyah to contradict allah and deny islam if their doctrines or themselves are challenged. And that even raises a very big question about what you said of muslims only allowed to fight back if they are attacked while the quran stated clearly that they can jump ships in Q3.28[b] "Let
not the believers take those who
deny the truth for their allies in
preference to the believers –
since he who does this cuts
himself off from God in
everything – unless it be to
protect yourself against them in
this way…"
[/b] i had had enough of the koran lies so do you have any other lie? Hehehehe,
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by LagosShia: 11:36am On Jan 31, 2012
^^^^

taqiyyah is permissible only when someone's life is at risk or in danger.he can deny for instance being muslim,like we saw Peter denied Jesus thrice within seconds.i have shown you instances of taqiyyah and even lying in your bible.

you should the article i posted above and stop barking.whenever i read your posts i always imagine a dog barking at me.the way you sound is very irrational.
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Bulldog(m): 1:01pm On Jan 31, 2012
Like i said before taqiya is an islam term and never anywhere in christianity. What peter did was a sin against the first commandment which he later prayed for forgiveness for  and wasn't any taqiyah but even at that does it mean allah told his faithfuls to be committing sin? in the koran allah himself gave it as a compulsory condition! And especially practiced by the shias 
show friendship to the
disbelievers outwardly, but
never inwardly." quotes ibn kathir.
Muhammad's companion, Abu
Ad-Darda', who said "we smile in
the face of some people
although our hearts curse them,"
and Al-Hasan who said "the
Tuqyah is acceptable till the Day
of Resurrection."
this even shows that a muslem cant make a good friend and are as deceptive as the very devil. Why will muslims be showing someone that you are a friend and in their heart they are planning to kill the person! Some faith indeed. Any other lie aboard?
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by LagosShia: 2:08pm On Jan 31, 2012
^^^^^

taqiyyah is an islamic term? duh,as if the bible was written in arabic.
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Bulldog(m): 2:58pm On Jan 31, 2012
LagosShia:

^^^^^

taqiyyah is an islamic term? duh,as if the bible was written in arabic.
wow, i'm impressed. Finally one truth for the day. Go to an arabic bible and show me that. cheesy
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by LagosShia: 3:36pm On Jan 31, 2012
listen dog,

even if the act is not named in the arabic bible as "taqiyyah",it really does not matter because the action of performing taqiyyah is found even in the english bibles.i presented those verses.recall when Peter denied Jesus thrice to save his life? that is Taqiyyah.so simply because there is a name used to refer to a practice somewhere,does not mean that the same act done elsewhere without that particular name makes the whole thing different.in english taqiyyah is called dissimulation.you could find that in the bible.regardless,the practice is there.

for instance,we are told in the bible that Jesus "fell down on his face and worshipped God".that "falling down on the face" in islamic terminology is called "sujood" (to prostrate).so while we have 5 words in english to describe an act,there is one word in arabic that muslims use to describe that same act.
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Bulldog(m): 5:04pm On Jan 31, 2012
LagosShia:

listen dog,

even if the act is not named in the arabic bible as "taqiyyah",it really does not matter because the action of performing taqiyyah is found even in the english bibles.i presented those verses.recall when Peter denied Jesus thrice to save his life? that is Taqiyyah.so simply because there is a name used to refer to a practice somewhere,does not mean that the same act done elsewhere without that particular name makes the whole thing different.in english taqiyyah is called dissimulation.you could find that in the bible.regardless,the practice is there.

for instance,we are told in the bible that Jesus "fell down on his face and worshipped God".that "falling down on the face" in islamic terminology is called "sujood" (to prostrate).so while we have 5 words in english to describe an act,there is one word in arabic that muslims use to describe that same act.
Lol. I can run it anyway i want at least i dont have multiple threads on the same topic  like You. it seems the truth hurts your islam filled ego . What you replied is meaningless. Why cant you just give me where taquiyah is in arabic bible and your source and not tell long story. The evil term is only in islam just like the jihad. Once again about peter's denial, denial isn't teqiyyah in arabic but is النكران‎ ‎pronounced kufr. When will you stop lying lagoshia??  what you see in the bible about peter was denial and besides denying the truth is a sin! Taqiyyah isn't denial but is lying in the name of allah to propagate his lies!liar shia!
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by LagosShia: 5:42pm On Jan 31, 2012
Bulldog:

Lol. I can run it anyway i want at least i dont have multiple threads on the same topic like You. it seems the truth hurts your islam filled ego . What you replied is meaningless. Why cant you just give me where taquiyah is in arabic bible and your source and not tell long story. The evil term is only in islam just like the jihad. Once again about peter's denial, denial isn't teqiyyah in arabic but is النكران‎ ‎pronounced kufr. When will you stop lying lagoshia?? what you see in the bible about peter was denial and besides denying the truth is a sin! Taqiyyah isn't denial but is lying in the name of allah to propagate his lies!liar shia!

i have shown you verses in the bible where taqiyyah (concealing or denying the truth to save one's life) appears.but you insist that what Peter did was "denial" which is "nikran" in arabic and that according to you is pronounced kufr (disbelief).you are now issuing fatwa of disbelief (takfir) against a follower of Jesus.in other words you are saying Peter,"the rock",was an unbelieving follower of Jesus!!! that i will leave for you to settle with your fellow christians and especially the catholics who hold Peter high.

i want to put it forth to you that if you call what Peter did "kufr" then the opposite act which in your eyes Peter should have done is also "kufr".how? Peter knew that if he was to admit he is a follower of Jesus,he would be killed.if Peter had known that he would be killed and went ahead to admit that he is a Jesus follower,then he was committting suicide.suicide is a sin and only a disbeliever in God would commit suicide.



here (below) are the instances in your bible of taqiyyah.prove to me i am wrong.prove to me the below verses are not taqiyyah and tell me what they are..you asked for the verses and i have quoted them already in another thread.calling me a liar or names would make you feel better.but you are not presenting any fact to prove your case that there is no taqiyyah in the bible.you are only desperate and lack points to make;so you call me a liar.what have i lied? i said Peter practiced taqiyyah,and you have gone a step further to say Peter practiced "nikran" which you labelled as "pronounced kufr" or disbelief.



[size=14pt]TAQIYYAH AND LYING IN THE BIBLE[/size]

Genesis 12:10-13
10 Now there was a famine in the land, and Abram went down to Egypt to live there for a while because the famine was severe. 11 As he was about to enter Egypt, he said to his wife Sarai, “I know what a beautiful woman you are. 12 When the Egyptians see you, they will say, ‘This is his wife.’ Then they will kill me but will let you live. 13 Say you are my sister, so that I will be treated well for your sake and my life will be spared because of you.”


2 Kings 9:10-15
“Hazael went to meet Elisha, taking with him as a gift forty camel-loads of all the finest wares of Damascus. He went in and stood before him, and said, "Your son Ben-Hadad king of Aram has sent me to ask, 'Will I recover from this illness?' " 10 Elisha answered, "Go and say to him, 'You will certainly recover'; but the LORD has revealed to me that he will in fact die." 11 He stared at him with a fixed gaze until Hazael felt ashamed. Then the man of God began to weep. 12 "Why is my lord weeping?" asked Hazael. "Because I know the harm you will do to the Israelites," he answered. "You will set fire to their fortified places, kill their young men with the sword, dash their little children to the ground, and rip open their pregnant women." 13 Hazael said, "How could your servant, a mere dog, accomplish such a feat?" "The LORD has shown me that you will become king of Aram," answered Elisha. 14 Then Hazael left Elisha and returned to his master. When Ben-Hadad asked, "What did Elisha say to you?" Hazael replied, "He told me that you would certainly recover." 15 But the next day he took a thick cloth, soaked it in water and spread it over the king's face, so that he died. Then Hazael succeeded him as king”.

Romans 3:7
“But if the truth of God through my lie abounded unto his glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner?”

Philippians 1:18
“But what does it matter? Nothing matters except that, in one way or another, people are told the message about Christ, whether with honest or dishonest motives, and I’m happy about that. [/u]Yes, I will continue to be happy.”

2Corinthians 12:16
“But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, [u]being crafty, I caught you with guile.“



Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Bulldog(m): 7:38pm On Jan 31, 2012
LagosShia:

i have shown you verses in the bible where taqiyyah (concealing or denying the truth to save one's life) appears.
but the term(taqiyyah), you cant even find it in arabic bible which raises a question mark to it's meaning.(it means lying as to protect islam or denying allah to protect your life)
LagosShia:
but you insist that what Peter did was "denial" which is "nikran" in arabic and that according to you is pronounced kufr (disbelief).
does "nikran" look like arabic? Didn't you all see original arabic in my quote? Anyway, to show i wasn't lying like muslims. it is clearly stated that peter denied(the truth) about knowing jesus. "Jesus answered, "I tell you, Peter, before the rooster crows today, you will deny three times that you know me. "" (Luke 22:34). Using google translate to translate the pure arabic word i wrote to english or vice versa you'll get denial but using Wikipedia definition for the corrupted english arabic text "kafir"
The term refers to a person who rejects God or who hides, denies, or covers the "truth".
and even with the adjustments, i didn't lie. Back to peter, peter committed a sin and later felt sorry for the sin. Why the hell will your allah in his greatness(abi vainess) authorise muslims to sin and even deny him Did jesus ever ever ever told the christians to deny him or tell lies in his name or act like cameleon?

Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Bulldog(m): 7:49pm On Jan 31, 2012
Liar shia you cant stop lying can you?
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by LagosShia: 8:11pm On Jan 31, 2012
i know well that when christians cannot refute you or conceal the truth,they resort to character assasination.

before we go on,i want you to tell me the lie that i stated.thanks.
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Bulldog(m): 10:20pm On Jan 31, 2012
LagosShia:

i know well that when christians cannot refute you or conceal the truth,they resort to character assasination.

before we go on,i want you to tell me the lie that i stated.thanks.
that's assuming you have a character that will be assassinated cos all that is in you is deception, lies and more lies. Your koran a lie and a forgery, your prophet mohammed, a false prophet, your allah a demon that is worshipd facing mecca and you a living deception, smiley did you run out of your bible misquotations, forgery and contortion of peoples posts. Check all your posts even on this thread. All lies
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by LagosShia: 10:44pm On Jan 31, 2012
Bulldog:

that's assuming you have a character that will be assassinated cos all that is in you is deception, lies and more lies. Your koran a lie and a forgery, your prophet mohammed, a false prophet, your allah a demon that is worshipd facing mecca and you a living deception, smiley did you run out of your bible misquotations, forgery and contortion of peoples posts. Check all your posts even on this thread. All lies

i would not be bothered as a Muslim who follows the truth by your insults.yet still,i will keep up the discussion and let you drown deeper with your own words of ignorance.in other words you are defeating your case and tarnishing the image of christianity.i keep saying that christians especially the clerics deep inside them believe that the only way for christianity survive in the face of Islam and the islamic truth is by inventing lies and fabricating issues and also going rude with very dirty statements unimaginable that someone with the fear of God Almighty would make.

[b]have you ever asked yourself why is it that christian missionaries have tens of anti-islamic websites and expend millions if not more yearly just to fight islam and spread propaganda?[/b]they know islam got the truth and the message of monotheism and purity and practices of piety that attracts the soul towards it.they also know islam is the fastest growing religion.so they expend alot of money and invent many tales to make sure the truth is obstructed.yet still they fail and they will fail,inshaAllah.

so mr. "Bulldog",you can spare yourself the disgrace and humiliation of ignorance and talking nonsense by telling us in this thread how have i lied.thank you.

please also answer the questions i asked you in the below thread in this thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-857645.32.html#msg10092283
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Bulldog(m): 11:16pm On Jan 31, 2012
[b] Hmmm. Your lies? Why did you keep asking that? Are you also blind?its so numerous that i dont know where to begin, from misquoting frosbel and turning it into a thread to saying taqiyya is in the bible without giving quotes where God encourage it,  just In my last two posts i corrected a lie you were trying to force down my throat by saying i lied about the meaning of a word i translated directly from arabic and i proved you wrong like you always are? Calling you a liar that you are is it an insult while you outrightly called me a donkey(let's forget about the  dog part cos i'm the bulldog). Aren't you shameless? There are many anti islam websites? Do you actually surf the net at all? there are hundred of thousands of anti christian websites (the hadiths even starts by condemning christianity and the jews but check every bible, there wasn't any anti islam intro), why the hell are muslims killing of christians and the jews that islam nearly wiped from the face of the earth but of course the true God have a convenant with them and no allah can change that!  so liar shia, stop stepping on your toes in an attempt to hurt christianity cos the gun you are holding is aimed at your temple.[/b]
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by LagosShia: 12:23am On Feb 01, 2012
Bulldog:

[b] Hmmm. Your lies? Why did you keep asking that? Are you also blind?its so numerous that i dont know where to begin, from misquoting frosbel and turning it into a thread to saying taqiyya is in the bible without giving quotes where God encourage it, just In my last two posts i corrected a lie you were trying to force down my throat by saying i lied about the meaning of a word i translated directly from arabic and i proved you wrong like you always are? Calling you a liar that you are is it an insult while you outrightly called me a donkey(let's forget about the dog part cos i'm the bulldog). Aren't you shameless? There are many anti islam websites? Do you actually surf the net at all? there are hundred of thousands of anti christian websites (the hadiths even starts by condemning christianity and the jews but check every bible, there wasn't any anti islam intro), why the hell are muslims killing of christians and the jews that islam nearly wiped from the face of the earth but of course the true God have a convenant with them and no allah can change that! so liar shia, stop stepping on your toes in an attempt to hurt christianity cos the gun you are holding is aimed at your temple.[/b]

no need to be a drama queen and whinning.i'm intereted to examine the facts and the evidence put forth.what you call me or think is of no use to me or the discussion.thank you sir.

you can see my reply below and examine the thread you accuse me of lying against frosbel:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-857645.64.html#msg10093037
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Bulldog(m): 6:55am On Feb 01, 2012
Drama queen? Who's doing the drama when you keep changing threads. Lol. When your lies tends to backfire you change just like a cameleom, you tried appealing to the nobler nature of islam and it seems it's lacking in nobility too.
LagosShia:

i would not be bothered as a Muslim who follows the truth by your insults.yet still,i will keep up the discussion and let you drown deeper with your own words of ignorance.in other words you are defeating your case and tarnishing the image of christianity.i keep saying that christians especially the clerics deep inside them believe that the only way for christianity survive in the face of Islam and the islamic truth is by inventing lies and fabricating issues and also going rude with very dirty statements unimaginable that someone with the fear of God Almighty would make.

[b]have you ever asked yourself why is it that christian missionaries have tens of anti-islamic websites and expend millions if not more yearly just to fight islam and spread propaganda?[/b]they know islam got the truth and the message of monotheism and purity and practices of piety that attracts the soul towards it.they also know islam is the fastest growing religion.so they expend alot of money and invent many tales to make sure the truth is obstructed.yet still they fail and they will fail,inshaAllah.

so mr. "Bulldog",you can spare yourself the disgrace and humiliation of ignorance and talking nonsense by telling us in this thread how have i lied.thank you.

please also answer the questions i asked you in the below thread in this thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-857645.32.html#msg10092283
Bulldog:

[b] Hmmm. Your lies? Why did you keep asking that? Are you also blind?its so numerous that i dont know where to begin, from misquoting frosbel and turning it into a thread to saying taqiyya is in the bible without giving quotes where God encourage it,  just In my last two posts i corrected a lie you were trying to force down my throat by saying i lied about the meaning of a word i translated directly from arabic and i proved you wrong like you always are? Calling you a liar that you are is it an insult while you outrightly called me a donkey(let's forget about the  dog part cos i'm the bulldog). Aren't you shameless? There are many anti islam websites? Do you actually surf the net at all? there are hundred of thousands of anti christian websites (the hadiths even starts by condemning christianity and the jews but check every bible, there wasn't any anti islam intro), why the hell are muslims killing of christians and the jews that islam nearly wiped from the face of the earth but of course the true God have a convenant with them and no allah can change that!  so liar shia, stop stepping on your toes in an attempt to hurt christianity cos the gun you are holding is aimed at your temple.[/b] 
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Bulldog(m): 7:42am On Feb 01, 2012
[Quote]
Genesis 12:10-13
10 Now there was a famine in
the land, and Abram went down
to Egypt to live there for a while
because the famine was severe.
11 As he was about to enter
Egypt, he said to his wife Sarai, “I
know what a beautiful woman
you are. 12 When the Egyptians
see you, they will say, ‘This is his
wife.’ Then they will kill me but
will let you live. 13 Say you are
my sister, so that I will be treated
well for your sake and my life
will be spared because of you.”[/quote]  abraham's faith in God wasn't threatened, abraham's faith in the almighty wasn't challenged, abraham only feared that because his wife was beautiful, they'll kill him to take her and in the islamic egypt of today the evil still lingers! Once again this is what a thing that calls himself a god said! [3.28] let not believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing  will there be help from allah: except by way of precaution, that Ye may guard yourselves from them. But allah cautions you to (remember) himself;  for the final goal is to allah. isn't  it crystal clear that you are twisting the bible?! Isn't also crystal clear that you twisted frosbel's Quote?!  and isn't it glaringly visible that you twisted the original arabic i showed you previously to to make me a liar and the screenshot of the translation bore witness to that. Isn't it clear you are a liar! For allah!. And as if that wasn't enough, muslims are the kind of friends that smile at his friend and has knives at their backs to kill them with
Regarding 3:28, Ibn Kathir, a prominent authority writes, "meaning, except those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers. In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly." He quotes Muhammad's companion, Abu Ad-Darda', who said "we smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them," and Al-Hasan who said "the Tuqyah is acceptable till the Day of Resurrection."
liar shia. The shia liar of allah,  Lol
Re: Yet Another Nairaland Christian Accepts The Bible Is Not All "inspired" by Sweetnecta: 9:04am On Feb 01, 2012
^^^^^^^^^^^^ Islamic Egypt of today is different from the Egypt of Abraham and Sarah. The people living there then were black people, your forefathers. You forgot that your forefathers according to you gave Sarah one of your sisters [his own daughter Hagar] as slave! Does that make any sense?

@Bulldog: « #3 on: January 30, 2012, 01:00 PM »
[Quote]Yeah right. And i stand by my word because it's quite obvious that there a large difference between the laws of moses as opposed to the ten commandments . the koran inspired by the all illitrate allah In a previous sura says 2:256 Let there be no compulsion in religion:, And not very far away from the that again he blurted out 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them only a fool of a god is meant to make a statement and then make another statement completely abrogating his previous statement. But it's quite obvious which one muslims follow. Lol[/Quote]THe verses of the Quran that you quoted compliment each other in the same way that a teacher says to the class you do not have to attend the lectures, if you wish. Then says to the students, when you take the exams, if you fail you will not be promoted, instead made to repeat the class. Are you thinking mr. bulldog because your dog is lying like a rug [You know the saying let the sleeping dog lie?].

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