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Science/TechnologyRe: Expensive Original Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 7:28pm On Nov 30, 2021
I'm just speaking from experience
Itunu97:
Are you sure or you are jst trying to market their product because a family of yours work with them? Because I know there are dealers who sell but not service centre.
Science/TechnologyRe: Expensive Original Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 7:26pm On Nov 30, 2021
I don't think they sell generators there
hoppez2020:
Do they also sell original gen at the service center too?
Science/TechnologyRe: Expensive Original Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 3:48pm On Nov 30, 2021
At NO.8, Akin Osiyemi Street off Allen Avenue, Ikeja - Lagos. I've been there like 2 times to service my generator and get spare parts.
Teetee17:
Where is the service center located?
Science/TechnologyRe: Expensive Original Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 3:22pm On Nov 30, 2021
That's really funny.
Teetee17:
Salt as how? Have not heard of or seen that before o.
Science/TechnologyRe: Expensive Original Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 3:22pm On Nov 30, 2021
Well for me, I have been using Sumec Firman generator for years now. I found out that its so easy to identify their genuine generator cos they have authorised stores in different locations, FIRMAN is engraved on 8 parts of the generator and more interestingly, they have a Service Center where you can enjoy good after sales services.
Science/TechnologyRe: Expensive Original Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 3:14pm On Nov 30, 2021
That's the reason why end users should find out more about the brand they are about to buy. These information are online.
hoppez2020:
But will one actually blame the buyer or the gen manufacturers because am thinking some sellers might not be aware.
Science/TechnologyRe: Expensive Original Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 3:12pm On Nov 30, 2021
Depending on the brand you want you can check their website to know how to identify the genuine generator.
Itunu97:
So my question is how can one Identify an Original Generator? Because that's what attracts me to this topic.
Science/TechnologyRe: Expensive Original Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 8:04am On Nov 30, 2021
Yes using it right matters a lot. But come to think of it, there is no right way to use a fake kva generator cos in the first place the capacity has been exaggerated unknowingly to you. So let's say you bought a generator that is supposed to be 2.5kva but it has been exaggerated to 4kva. Then you load 3kva appliances on it, you really think you are using it right but you are already overloading the generator cos its just 2.5kva which in turn will destroy the generator in no time. You see the danger now?
Itunu97:
Hmmm,I think using it right matters alot because if a Good generator is used wrongly it will get damaged.
Science/TechnologyRe: Expensive Original Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 12:28am On Nov 30, 2021
It simply means fake capacity of generators. Some sellers increase the capacity so that customers will moved to buy the generators.
Itunu97:
Please house, what is the meaning of fake kva?
Science/TechnologyRe: Expensive Original Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 12:22am On Nov 30, 2021
This is because many unknown / inferior brands try to exploit the popularity of well known brands to sell their products. In order to achieve this, they exaggerate the kva of the generator so that they can sell at the price of the trusted brands or even sell it cheap to uninformed buyers
Teetee17:
Why should we have generators with fake KVA?
Science/TechnologyRe: Expensive Original Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 11:53pm On Nov 29, 2021
If i may ask, what do you expect from a good generator brand?
hoppez2020:
But pls, what brand of generator can one buy to better proficiency? Any suggestions pls...
Science/TechnologyRe: Expensive Original Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 11:49pm On Nov 29, 2021
I didn't say so, I only cited their stand at the Trade fair as an example. There were other brands who had stands at the Trade fair too.
hoppez2020:
Don't tell us it's only sumec fireman generator that is original...Hmmm...
Science/TechnologyRe: Expensive Original Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 11:41pm On Nov 29, 2021
Exactly, Nobody wants that stress. And like I mentioned , the risk of purchasing such generators is high
hoppez2020:
I rather buying it expensive than cheaper fake KVA. Cos who wants palava on repairing everyday
Technology MarketRe: Expensive Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 11:59am On Nov 29, 2021
I will say here that if someone wants to buy a generator and know nothing much about it, its best to go with a gen expert to the store. The expert can help check if the coil is 100% copper, check the engine block and the sound of the generator.
Science/TechnologyRe: Expensive Original Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 11:05pm On Nov 28, 2021
Even some online stores are not left out as they are also find of exaggerating generator's capacity to unsuspecting customers. So the need to be careful is really important.
Itunu97:
Cos many roadside generator stores are just out there to make money not minding what happens afterwards.
Technology MarketRe: Expensive Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 11:00pm On Nov 28, 2021
Some online stores are not left out as they are fond of exaggerating generator's capacity thereby misleading customers. I know a couple of end users who have fallen prey.
Nope31:
Or sellers claiming that the generator is 100% copper when in actual fact, it's aluminium coil
Technology MarketRe: Professor On Any Type Of Generator. by Nope31(f): 8:03pm On Nov 28, 2021
I'm sure many people truly want the best brand of generators but may not be be able to afford it. But the benefits of buying a good one despite the price far outweighs the risk involved in buying a fake one no matter how cheap it is. Unfortunately, most sellers and even some online stores exaggerate generator kva to unsuspecting customers so they can make profit not minding what happens thereafter. Hence, the need for end users to be cautious when buying a generator is really important.
Nope31:
I was at the last Lagos International Trade fair and observed that many people bought original generators like Sumec Firman, etc at their stands even though they seem expensive but many still chose to buy other brands with fake KVAs because they are cheap. So which would you rather choose: An expensive original generator or a cheap generator with fake KVA?
Technology MarketRe: Expensive Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op):
It's good to know that there are threads under Nairaland Forum that advise people on what brands/kva of generators to buy to suit their needs. The answer given are based on advices from engineers and those who have experiences in the generator field. So end users can take advantage of these threads and derive benefits from doing so. Although, caution still needs to be taken as some engineers may not give correct information
Technology MarketRe: Expensive Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 2:02pm On Nov 28, 2021
Or sellers claiming that the generator is 100% copper when in actual fact, it's aluminium coil
Technology MarketRe: Expensive Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 1:59pm On Nov 28, 2021
I've heard of cases where sellers use stickers to sell generators there by increasing the kva and unsuspecting customers will buy and later start having issues related to overloading or burnt coil. Hence, the need for customers to be careful
Technology MarketRe: Expensive Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 1:27pm On Nov 28, 2021
End users can also find out from generator brands website to know features to look out for in their original generators.
Science/TechnologyRe: Expensive Original Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 10:49pm On Nov 27, 2021
That's very true. Even if anyone wants an affordable generator, its safe to buy it at an authorised store. Such information can be found online.
Itunu97:
I think i agree on this one. But i think many people don't know the risk attached in getting cheaper generator
Technology MarketRe: Expensive Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 10:07pm On Nov 27, 2021
First way is to always buy at authorised stores of any brand of generators . These information can be found online
Technology MarketRe: Expensive Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 5:52am On Nov 27, 2021
That being the case, how do someone identify a fake kva generator? Please share your thoughts here
Science/TechnologyRe: Expensive Original Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 5:50am On Nov 27, 2021
I'm sure many people really want the best brand of generators but can't afford it cos economy is hard. But I think the benefits of buying a good one far outweighs the risk of buying a fake kva generator.
Technology MarketRe: Expensive Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 3:47pm On Nov 26, 2021
I'm sure many people really want the best brand of generators but can't afford it cos economy is hard. But I think the benefits of buying a good one far outweighs the risk of buying a fake kva generator
Technology MarketRe: Professor On Any Type Of Generator. by Nope31(f): 8:14am On Nov 26, 2021
So like I mentioned in my post, I am just a fan of the brand just as I am a fan of prof's thread for years now. Interestingly, I got to know about the Sumec Firman Brand through this thread. And since I bought the Firman generator some years back, I have no reason to try another brand. So I'm only speaking from experience. As for whether the 1.2kva Promax generator will power Sumec Firman 1.5HP INVERTER AC, a colleague of mine can attest to that cos he bought both products. So this is no case of misleading people. However, I will like that you do your findings or like its being said, "Seeing is believing".
Gptech:
Its obvious. They even had a thread to mimic this one, but the Mods acted swiftly. I wonder why the desperation to market to the point of even misleading people. Someone saying a 1.2kva generator will power a 1.5hp inverter AC. This is just pure wickedness, smh.
Science/TechnologyExpensive Original Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 1:02am On Nov 26, 2021
I was at the last Lagos International Trade fair and observed that many people bought original generators like Sumec Firman, etc at their stands even though they seem expensive but many still chose to buy other brands with fake KVAs because they are cheap. So which would you rather choose: An expensive original generator or a cheap generator with fake KVA?
Technology MarketExpensive Generators Or Cheap Fake Kva Generators by Nope31(op): 11:07pm On Nov 25, 2021
I was at the last Lagos International Trade fair and observed that many people bought original generators like Sumec Firman, etc at their stands even though they seem expensive but many still chose to buy other brands with fake KVAs because they are cheap. So which would you rather choose: An expensive original generator or a cheap generator with fake KVA?
Technology MarketRe: Professor On Any Type Of Generator. by Nope31(f): 10:58pm On Nov 25, 2021
I was at the last Lagos International Trade fair and observed that many people bought original generators like Sumec Firman, etc at their stands even though they seem expensive but many still chose to buy other brands with fake KVAs because they are cheap. So which would you rather choose: An expensive original generator or a cheap generator with fake KVA?
Technology MarketRe: Professor On Any Type Of Generator. by Nope31(f): 11:25am On Nov 24, 2021
Good news to Sumec Firman brand fans like me. I read in beginning of this thread where professor recommended tec for 1kva generator because it has Automatic Voltage Regulator(AVR) as against Sumec Firman 1kva generator that uses capacitor. Just got to know from my generator dealer that Sumec Firman now has a 1.2kva generator (SPG1800 Promax) that has digital AVR, oil warning system, circuit breaker amongst other fine features. The beautiful part is that it's pocket friendly (compared to Tec), it's very efficient and I learned it can carry their 1.5HP inverter AC. So incase anyone wants a pocket friendly, hassle free small generator, this is the product to go for.
Technology MarketRe: Professor On Any Type Of Generator. by Nope31(f):
Gptech:
This Firman is around 2.2-2.5kva while the TEC is 3.5kva. In stores both will be cheaper and it will be more difficult to get an original Firman.
It is not that difficult to get an original Sumec Firman generator, I've been following them on their social media platforms for a while now and they have mentioned and posted ways in which you can identify an original Sumec Firman generator as against the fake. They also have Branded Shops Nationwide where you can purchase their genuine generator. More to that, they have Service centers and hotlines you can contact to get a location where you can buy both original Sumec Firman generators and spare parts. If you follow them on their social media page: sumecfirmanng, you will learn more.

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