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Kollins11:
Ogbeni nothing do you jare.. What about me that walks around with an erect dick like person wey them curse.

Infact at work, gym, shopping mall, clubs even at Church my gbola is always on attention.

You should be happy because that's a sign or evidence of a good living.

Wait, are u serious or is this cruise Like your dick is erect like 70% of the time

Breakfast loading for some people

Kingpin1000:
You wan stand on Tilumbu testes with that shoe.

lol Una no well for this nairaland

Seconded

lol, him never see tension, someone should tell tinubu to save his tears for next week, by that time geepee tank would be made available to collect them.

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Lol, this wan sweet me, tinubu never see anything, its so good to know that there are politicians who donot buy tinubu's archaic godfatherism brand of politics, tinubu thinks that the road to aso rock is to use his minions of Godsons to impose himself on Nigeriams, him eye go clear next week!!

MaxInDHouse:


Did God warn Satan about death?
Did Satan eat the forbidden fruit?
Is Satan created with flesh and blood liable to death?

Keep dribbling yourself.
Sebi you want to correct those who know much more than you, ọya go on let's see!

Guy you are the one dribbling yourself, lol, Sin is Sin, whether its the sin of disobeying God by eating the fruit or its sin by rebelling against God, its all sin and the wages of sin is death!! Satan didnt need to be warned cos he has been in heaven with God for ages, so he would have known, he was an archangel for crying out loud So because Satan isnt flesh and blood, so he would not justly recieve the reward of his sin which is death, did scripture say the "wages of sins by human beings is death" ok why does Rev 21:8 talk about "the second death" Guy u are not interested in questioning what you believe, when u are ready God will give u insight, for now Goodday

MaxInDHouse:


Soul is immortal, spirit is immortal.
So when Adam dies two things survived him o!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, Jesus need to hear this because someone must be the REAL liar {John 8:44} between God who said:
But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.” Gene 2:17

And Satan who said:

At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die. Gene 3:4

Your problem is that you dont know what death truly means, hence the confusion, ive explained it in my last reply to cornelboy, read it and recieve enligtenment, thanks

cornelboy:

Lol
NuclearReactor, when Jehovah God was speaking to Adam that he would die, was he referring to Adam's body or the whole of him (body, soul and spirit combined)?

Ok let me clear this, when adam sinned, he died as God threatened, but you see because adam(and all humans) are body soul and spirit,the way death manifests in the body is different from how death manifest in the soul and equally different with the spirit, because these 3 arent the same so death cannot manifest in them in the same manner, death manifests in the body through AGING and SEIZURE OF BREATH AND CONCIOUSNESS, so actually what you call "death"(to stop existing) is only the bodily manifestion of death, spirits are immortal by default, so the death of a spirit doesnt mean it seizes to exist, ok why is Satan still alive Didnt he also sin against God just like adam By rebellion since the wages of sin is death why did adam sin and die(stop to exist) while satan is still very much alive

Ok

cornelboy:




Now can you compare your above post and tell me which one is immortal, soul or spirit?

Both the soul and the spirit are immortal, the soul(memory, values, emotions, thought system,etc) is what gives a person a distinct personality. In the case of Samuel, it was his (immortal) spirit that was brought back, but because his soul was also alive he could remember who saul was and even take a stance of displeasure towards saul because of the things he had done. So both soul and spirit are immortal!!

MaxInDHouse:


Like say JWs just come my house to convert me from Islam to become one of them without scrutiny.
Cry from today till tomorrow i will not TEACH you!

Lol, so in your mind na you think i want you to teach me, bro i dont need your teaching, i am already well GROUNDED in the these truths, and i can refute ANY point you put out in support of your errornous position of mortality of the soul with scriptures, so bro i dont need your teaching

cornelboy:

Lemme ask you this first: are spirit and soul the same?

They arent the same, first in 1Thess5:23, bible says that "may God preserve spirit, soul and body blameless..." and in Heb 4:13 bible say Gods word is able to pierce "the dividing asunder of soul and spirit" so they clearly arent the same!!

MaxInDHouse:


Instead of humbly requesting for a Bible study you're aggressively agitating upon ignorance.

My friend, i was a Muslim before i humbly requested a free home Bible study to learn from the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught.

Your friend said:



But funny enough it's you that's worried over what JWs believe not the other way around!

Honest hearted individuals know that only the Jehovah's Witnesses have the spirit Jesus spoke about {Act 1:8} when he commanded his disciples to go out and meet their neighbours at home to PREACH and TEACH! Matt 28:19-20

I will not teach you, go out there and preach what you know!

Since you have succesfully doged answering my question it is clear to me that you are not ready to question the things you believe, i wont bother u anymore, but i'll leave u with this... TRUTH IS NOT AFRAID OF BEING QUESTIONED OR COMING UNDER SCRUTINY thanks

cornelboy:

Where in the Bible says the soul is immortal

If the soul is mortal then why did God sternly warn the isrealite against consulting mediums and necromancers(people who could use magic to commune with the dead) if it wasnt possible to commune with the dead then why did God warn against such... Ok if the dead cease to exist then how could The spirit of Prophet Samuel be conjured up from the dead by the witch of endor Read 1Sam 28, "dead" Samuel asked saul why he disturbed him and correctly predicted the future, oya MaxinDHouse come and answer

Emusan thanks for educating that dude, this has always been my problem with witnesses, they always ignorantly roll with whether doctrines\beliefs their watchtower governing body dishes out to them without taking time to study the bible carefully and ask questions, its so bad

MaxInDHouse:


Well if you understand it differently then there's no need looking for ways to argue with JWs, just pick up your Bible and go out there to PREACH and TEACH what you know as truth.
We are preaching and teaching what we know so play your part instead of calling out a group.
You've learnt a lesson today from Mickykarim that different religions groups has there own interpretation of God's word, stop thinking only JWs have different teachings from what you were taught to believe!

I will always seek to correct wrong doctrine and show people scriptures so that THEY CAN REASON IT INDEPENDENTLY and not just stick to what their church or governing body claims is the truth. Think out these things objectively whilst asking God for insight, though their are many intepretations of scriptures only one truth exists!! Study and compare scriptures to find the truth YOURSELF.

MaxinDHouse first of, that scripture in Jeremiah was repeated in the book of hebrews, why? Because the convenant in question is not the convenant he made with the nation isreal, rather that "new convenant" is the convenant God made with the world when Jesus died for the sins of the world, only those who beleives in and accept Jesus as their saviour are under that convenant, since not everyone beleives in and relates with Jesus so not everyone enjoys the benefit of that convenant. Second satan told eve that she wont die if she ate the fruit, well eve died IMMEDIATELY she ate it, but that death didnt manifest in her physical body... I can go on with what death realy means but since u are set in defining death as ceasing to exist, then cool

Mickykarim:
Still dancing around it.

THERE WAS NOT MEANT TO BE DEATH AT ALL IN OUR DNA AND ACCORDING TO HIS PALN FOR US. IMMORTALITY FOR MAN WAS IT, IN HIS INITIAL PLAN AND FOUNDATION OF MAN.

We were not created to die, but live forever until the first man acted contrary to his wish for man.

THEREFORE, SIN ATTRACTED DEATH WHEN MAN WAS CURSED BY HIM.

I am not dancing arount anything, u are the one dancing, i am trying to say that what you understand as death, may not be what death truly means, but rather than face that u are busy repeating that death was never Gods plan, guess what we all know dat death wasnt God's original plan, we want to know what death really means. Gotit And oh the reason i specificially mention witnesses is dat their wrong definition of death influenced their errorneous belief that thd soul is not immortal!!

MaxInDHouse:


The body is what we know but the character is what God prefer so when a person dies we will bury his body but the character remains fresh in God's memory no matter how long it takes {Genesis 4:10} He still view them from the standpoint of their character {Luke 20:38} but when a person choose to be evil God doesn't keep account of evil thoughts so He format them from His memory which means they will not be remembered during the resurrection of the dead! Psalms 9:17 compare to Matt 19:28

if u said that God doesnt keep thoughts of peoples evil deeds, well thats incorrect, read Jer 31:31-34, God said that he would make a convenant with the people and under such convenant he would no longer remember the sins of the people, dat promise only applies to those who are under that convenant, the promise to forget peoples sins is not for everyone theres a condition atached to it, u must be under the new convenant, aka u must beleive in and relate with Jesus!!

Mickykarim i have no interest to ridicule anyone, look at my last reply to MaxinDHouse , the purpose of the thread was to show that most times the natural and human definition of a thing is different from the spiritual meaning of that term, if u think that mortality\deathmeans falling down and ceasing to exist then u are in for a long ride, why did the bible talk about the Second death in Revelation, lol if death means ceasing to exist then why would u need to die twice

MaxInDHouse:
According to God's word Adam and Eve died that same day!
To you and i a day in our life amounts to 24 hours but from God's viewpoint Adam and Eve who were supposed to live forever died within a span of 1 day which is about 1,000 years when compared to our own 24 hours! 2Peter 3:8

Thanks for considering our book (BIBLE) God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Your answer clearly shows that the human definition/perspective of death is different from God's definition, humans see death from the lems of time whilst God sees it from the lens of eternity, if that is the case then why do u guys view death of the soul(the soul that sinneth shall die) from a strictly human standpoint of "becoming unconcious and seizing to exist" why are u confident that such is the correct way to inteprete that scripture(Ezek 18:4)

Creamypie:
the most foolish write up on earth. Is Adam alive today?

modified, lol, whether adam died later or not, didnt he still die, if ur definition of death is to drop down unconscious and seize to exist then why did the bible talk about a "Second death" in revelation 21:8, if death means to seize to exist how can a person who died die again

If you frequent the religious section and know any witness please feel free to tag them MaxinDHouse i sight u, come and answer

So its no news that witnesses dont beleive in the teaching of the immortality of the soul (i.e that a person's soul continues to exist alongside his spirit after he dies) citing "the soul that sinneth shall die" (Ezek 18:4) and "the wages of sin is death" as biblical backup If a person's soul(his personality, memory, values,etc) seizes to exist and he becomes blank unconscious after he/she "dies" then i have two questions?? First why does d bible talk about the second death in Rev 21:8, how can a person who has died (seized to exist), die again 2) In genesis God told adam that if he eats the fruit of the tree of good and evil "he will surely die"(Gen 3:2) so why didnt adam "drop dead" and cease to exist after he ate the the fruit, if we believe that God doesnt lie and we also believe that death means a ceasure of breath and a termination of a persons soul, why did adam continue to "live" after God said he would "die" Or am i missing sth Witnesses i await your answers...