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Goshen360:
Okay. Let's get into it.

Premarital sex. When I have someone I love, committed to and want to marry or have planned to marry after a considerable time of courtship or getting to know each other compatibility, if we have sex and keep to each other, that's not what the bible called fornication. Religion called it fornication but the bible doesn't call it fornication.

What does the bible called fornication?

Many ACTS such as sex OUT SIDE AN ALREADY EXISTING MARRIAGE, is fornication, sex with animals is fornication, man to man or woman to woman, incent, whor.ing, prostitut.ion, idolatry etc are ACTS considered fornication but no where was premarital sex with someone I want to marry considered fornication.

Again, if ANYONE of you have text saying premarital sex ACT is fornication, bring it on. BUT I WILL STILL ADDRESS SCRIPTURES OLAADEGBU quoted IN CONTEXT SO WE CAN BE CLEAR ON THE DISCUSSION.

wow..this is really an eye opener into your person, so you can comfortably have se.x with someone you plan to marry and who you love without and to you that is not pre marital..pre marital means what? Before marriage right? You are still committed, what if you don't marry eventually? And that you are commited to that person does it mean God already sees or approves of your relationship?And which sexual relation did the bible concur except se.x between married couples? May God have mercy on you for truly you are in error and even Peter when he was in error was Opposed to his face by Paul.. You never quoted any bible passage to prove your point all you said were your own understandings...You think you can explain away your living in sin with your girl friend or a person you intend to marry? Having head knowledge of the bible will never take you to heaven but the right application..All you do here is raise controversies but I ask, how many people in nairaland have been born again by you? Talking about tithe, Abram gave his tithe to The king of Salem without the law, which means it wasn't obligatory, but can you explain why it had to be melchizedek? A priest of the most high who was a similtude of Jesus? Was that an isolated incident? As much as I don't believe in obligatory tithe,but you that claims to know all should encourage believers who feel the have to pay their tithe to do so, but not mandatory or in fulfilment of the law but as an act of giving unto the lord..in the last days bible says that many shall give in to seducing spirits..remove pride from your heart mr goshen, and repent..

Goshen360:
I don't know where you are coming from but let's discuss scriptures, not traditions of men of what you've been taught and you never questioned anything. We've discussed this subject in the past but Ola is just bringing it up again.

Please, produce scriptures that says premarital sex is fornication. Or we look at scriptures concerning fornication and see if they were referring to premarital sex.

When I argue this topic, people with sin conscious mind concludes, I'm endorsing immoral living but what I'm doing is, proving all things we're taught true or traditions.

Very funny, You dont know where am coming from..what were you thought? I asked you a simple question, Is Premarital S.ex not immoral? What then does your bible say? try and define fornication, both the english and greek definition..and please enough of this online Spiritual muscle flexing..You dont know where am coming from indeed..

Goshen360:
You keep asking same question but on the other hand, quoting scriptures that doesn't mean or say they are premarital sex. I'm more interested in context of those scriptures than your question, does those scriptures say or called or termed fornication as premarital sex? That's what I'm interested in talking and I will get into the contextual meaning of those verses you quoted later.

Premarital sex is it not Sexual? So you need the bible to say premarital sex before you agree that Premarital sex is sexual immorality..na wah, Sexual immorality deals with ALL SEXUAL SINS OR SINS THAT ARE SEXUAL IN NATURE.the scripture is clear about this why the debate?

still needed

Looking at these pictures, i can only ask "Nigeria what happened to thee"..wonderful architecture and landscapes, wonder what nigeria would have looked like if the colonial masters had stayed a little longer..imagine deporting Ghanaians..now we flog their country in search of greener pasture..Pity..

Okworigeorge: ...that's how they go about forming what they are not on each thread

you catch am red handed..no mind them o..

Okworigeorge: and this is coming from someone that posted the below...

busted!

ok

This is better..wonder what his motivation to Join politics might be..time will tell

i need an iphone 4s with a damaged screen..need it for parts..thanks

tobiboss: @op, i really really think you're gay

Nairaland is a faceless forum where everyone has an opinion even those who are total morons.. So I will forgive you for that...thank you for taking your time to comment....

I think windows 9 will be better and user friendly..windows 8 is so confusing..

asalimpo: Op you ar weak in the head, it's called being a wuss. Overcomng it is possible but psychologicaly hard.
Incase, u think it's a feminine side u hav,think again. Women arent emotionally weak,theyre just capricious, hav wider emotional spectrum than men, and more emotionally driven.
Women can turn on d tears like a faucet and their heart not b into it.
You can't do this-cuz ur a man.
Get a grip on ur emotions and control their expression instead of givg in to them like a child.

Thank you for your candid opinion...duly noted

Thank you all for your candid comments..the search continues

Bootybuttchic: you kinda described my boo in ur post......he tells me i av made him emotional,and sometimes movies can make him cry,and i actually like him like that,hes so understandable.....and i respect the fact hes like that,and never try to take advantage of him.....i hate jerks....,so op the right person will come soon,just keep calm hun....

Thank you so much

andromida:

Sounds reasonable. You will find her. Sometimes you just have to not give up.

All the best in your search.

thanks, but i wish it was easy

Valeree: op...you have nothing to worry about...

thanks

andromida: If in relationships I keep getting same results I just feel there must be a reason why I attract this particular kind of people who cannot see my value I'll look inwards so I can fix myself to attract the kind of people I want in my life. I know there is luck and several other factors beyond my control But I'll do what I can do since I am the only variable I can control.

I'll just think there must be a science to what's happening to me. This is what I mean by your A game you just look inwards and fix whatever you become aware of that may be the cause of repeated happenings. The only variable you can control,change,manage rebrand is you so you do what you have to do to get the results you want.

The way you described yourself I think you are cool but probably tooooooo nice. .

If you don't mind my asking what kind of women are you attracted to?

i love a lady who is intelligent, kind and caring,romantic,and sensitive..easy going,jovial and down to earth,who knows how to express herself and keep the conversation going but not a talkative, and a strong moral background..hardworking and who challenges me to be better and do more..i love a lady i can see as an equal...and who can cook..Lol..

fairest: M̶̲̥̅γ̲̣̣̥ signature says it; MW2K-Married with 2 kids

lol...ingenious!

[quote author=Starx]
This describes all of the dudes I've dated. Lol, I guess I'm attracted to guys like you. There's nothing wrong with being in touch with your feminine side so long as it doesn't make you act like like a sissy. I'm a kind of girl that would help you change a flat tire in my free time just for fun, fix a faulty electronic gadget, watch football with you (even though if I have no idea what teams are playing... lol), etc. I'm also a ps4 freak (Final fantasy XIV, to be specific) and I play with my brothers and bf or by myself.

My point is....I'm not a believer in rigidly defined gender roles or expectations. Be yourself and don't be sloppy about it either. A guy who's in touch with with all aspects of his being is usually better adjusted and may actually have a healthier self-esteem compared to regular folks.

Lastly, I may be wrong (I can't speak for all folks) but, I don't think anyone enjoys being in a relationship where they are treated wrongly. Well, except in some weird cases bothering on psychopathology.
This describes all of the dudes I've dated. Lol, I guess I'm attracted to guys like you. There's nothing wrong with being in touch with your feminine side so long as it doesn't make you act like like a sissy. I'm a kind of girl that would help you change a flat tire in my free time just for fun, fix a faulty electronic gadget, watch football with you (even though if I have no idea what teams are playing... lol), etc. I'm also a ps4 freak (Final fantasy XIV, to be specific) and I play with my brothers and bf or by myself.

Thats quite fantastic..its rare to find a lady with such qualities