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jfolorun: You are entitled to your opinions. We know where Jesus is now. He is alive forever. On the right hand throne of God Almighty. We also know that Jesus is the Judge on the last day. Where is Mohammad? He is in his grave awaiting the judgement of the last day. When I speak to Jesus anytime, He answers me. When last did you speak to Mohammad? Hmmmm, he can never answer you. He is dead and buried.
you said Jesus Christ is performing miracles, but Jesus is lazy he can do anything, nothing for him to do but he always called for helper. he was just a messenger. sender, just read below
John 5:30
KJV:I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
jfolorun: You are entitled to your opinions. We know where Jesus is now. He is alive forever. On the right hand throne of God Almighty. We also know that Jesus is the Judge on the last day. Where is Mohammad? He is in his grave awaiting the judgement of the last day. When I speak to Jesus anytime, He answers me. When last did you speak to Mohammad? Hmmmm, he can never answer you. He is dead and buried.
Jesus said he would judge 12tribes of Israelite ,this shows he was only sent has a messenger to the isreal. not to the Muslim and not to the African countries Asian, Europe, or China.
Mathew 19:28 KJV:And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
the twelve tribe including Judas Iscariot who betrayed Jesus, 11disciples and Judas Iscariot who sale Jesus Christ
my questions is let remove Judas among the 12 disciples, please who will replace Judas tribe ?
Zenithpeak: In response to the quotations above, (John 20-17)
......... After His resurrection but before His ascension to glory.......
At that moment when JESUS CHRIST was having the conversation with Mary Magdalene, Jesus was still on earth and yet to be restored to his former glory (i.e. AS HE WAS BEFORE Genesis Chapter 1) which he has with the Father in the beginning.
Hear JESUS praying to the father while on earth shortly before his crucification....................
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John 17:3,5 & 24 KJV (3) And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
[5] And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. *
[24] Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
Take note of the phrase ; before the foundation of the WORLD. I believe you know that there is a big difference between the EARTH and the WORLD . ............................................................................
Now read this and flip it to both sides.
Philippians 2:5-11 KJV
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
[6] Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
[7] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
[8] And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
[9] Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
[10] That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
[11] And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
JESUS (The ETERNAL WORD OF GOD John 1:1, & John 1:14) consciously forsake His glory and was made in form of man and stood in the gap for you and I that the issue of sin and sinfulness will be addressed eternally.
JESUS CHRIST is the one that brought eternal peace to the issue of Genesis Chapter 3 through His death on the cross. (Jesus is the mediator of our salvation)
If you still don't get something, I don't mind explaining myself over again.
Thanks
my brother are you saying Jesus is God in John 20:17
KJV:Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
1Timothy 2:5 KJV:For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
jfolorun: Why are you interested in this? Jesus is alive and you believe he is a prophet, I challenge you during one of your Salat, to ask Allah if what people are saying about Jesus is true or not. It is just a challenge. No need to start arguments with me. Salam
you don't know your bible my friend, formula dodge, those things are not what you think he was, this are Paul arrangements, ideas and opinions. don't worry you'll become a Muslim soon.
jfolorun: I see that you can access the Bible, everything in the Holy Bible confirms the Lordship of Jesus Christ. No one seats on the right hand of God except Jesus. Jesus is the Word and Spirit of God. Everything was created through Him.
let me chip in ,Jesus is not in authority to grant heaven except God, just read this verses Mathew 20:21:23 21
KJV:And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom.
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KJV:But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.
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KJV:And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
jfolorun: I see that you can access the Bible, everything in the Holy Bible confirms the Lordship of Jesus Christ. No one seats on the right hand of God except Jesus. Jesus is the Word and Spirit of God. Everything was created through Him.
so everything confirm the Lordship of Jesus Christ. just show me a verse and chapter where Jesus said to is people that in quote, , 'I am god worship me ' verse and chapter since you dodge 'personal lord and Savior '
I even have this video in my system, he was mentioning about Jesus name is word of God. he was just labelling a son of man has God word which he used in creating the universe.
the whole thing is Christ is a servant of God, if you go to the book of act 3:13 many verses where he was called prophet not god mark 6:3-4, Luke 24:19, Mathew 21:45-46 Mathew 21:11
KJV:And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.
can god be calling on god since he was the word by crying saying Eli Eli Eli why won't he do what he wants, and he was complaining. read Mathew 27:46
KJV:And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
jfolorun: Anyone who is in Christ is a new being. The Holy Spirit makes them New. Therefore someone who has not confessed Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior cannot have Holy Spirit. Are you ok With this Op?
please tell me the exact statement in your bible In quote where Jesus said to is people that 'I am the personal lord and Savior ' .
I can remember Isaiah 42:8 where god himself claim is positioned.
KJV:I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
HarkymTheOracle: That is what they think.. If you are a christain,you AUTOMATICALLY go to heaven (no matter how bad you are) and if you are not a christain,you AUTOMATICALLY go to hell.. same applies to the Muslims. Everyone thinks the world revolves around their own religion and ONLY their religion is true. I wonder how our morally-upright traditionalist forefathers were judged? Or what will happen to the billions of people who arent practising your own religion? They will all go to hell abi?
A christain girl once told me the whites brought God to Africa.. I wonder what the blacks were worshipping before then cos i know Olodumare in Yoruba traditional religion means God.. Or probably God created himself for the whites and Created the devil and evil spirits for the blacks
Zenithpeak: Why are you writing your response inside my mentions?
I guess you are smarter than hiding your posts.
Why are you ashamed of your religion?
I thought it was a mistake the first time but again! That's an old trick don't try it with me again.
stop running from my questions explain these verses to me is Jesus Christ call God john 20:17
KJV:Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
1Timothy 2:3-6 3 KJV:For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
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KJV:Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
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KJV:For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
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KJV:Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
[quote author=Zenithpeak post=57155402]The problem is that, you people will jump at a verse from a whole text and come up shallow assumptions throwing understanding to the wind.
Read next two verses and wise up.
Don't stop at what some people told you about JESUS CHRIST but seek to know him personally. [/quote
And can you please tell me why you like to Jump into verse like John 3:16
OK digest this verse too john 20:17
KJV:Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
so Jesus is god Habi, you better stop deceiving yourself read your Bible yourself and see for yourself men.
Zenithpeak: One thing that rocks the boat of all other religion is the truth that JESUS CHRIST IS GOD!
I'm trying as much as possible not to bother you with loads of excerpts from the Bible but, kindly permit me to show you this ;
Ephesians 1:17-22 KJV
[17] That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
[18] The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
[19] And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
[20] Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places ,
[21] Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
[22] And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
Believe it or not, JESUS CHRIST is not in the same class with anything created.
He was the word of God that was with God in the beginning. He agreed to forsake everything that made him GOD and became a man just like you and me.
He (JESUS) was subjected to the same temptations you and I always fell to yet without sin, but died a righteous man. So that you and me can have a reference point (a saving GRACE) anytime we fall to the tricks of satan, that we may have a way out of sin through forgiveness.
Because, HIM THAT HAVE NO SIN WAS KILLED AS IF HE COMMITTED A SIN. FOR THAT REASON, YOU THAT HAVE GENUINE SIN CAN HOLD ON TO THE MISTAKE OF SATAN AND GO THROUGH HIM (JESUS CHRIST) WITH REFERENCE TO HIS BLOOD AND BE FREE FROM YOUR GUILT OF SIN.
He died and resurrected and ascended to heaven (of which many people witnessed his ascension) and God restored him back to the (GLORY) position that he forsook before his sojourn on earth and by virtue promotion, God exalted him far and above everything that were created and God gave him a name that is above all names in all spheres of living i.e the heaven, (Spiritual) earth (physical) and under the earth (the sea and the hell).
Looking at all these, can you still say JESUS CHRIST is a mere men like every other prophets?
He attained a the highest level that can ever be in the universe.
To some people it is a mystery, but to you it is revealed!
Peace.
so take this verse and chapter and say that Jesus is god
1Timothy 2:5 :For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
so Jesus is man wise up my guy, Paul own the word Christian jesus never know what is called Christians, Bible or even meet Paul himself. so don't be arrogant and Sturborn about it. if you still insist that Jesus is god please chapter and verse.
Christians are not worshiping the creation but the CREATOR.
We only need to know God from all the perspectives he has revealed himself to man and we also need to stop equaling God with man if we really want to know HIM.
Don't you think you people should sue Israel, for killing your personal lord and Savior who is among the creation that you're worshiping.