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Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 9:37pm On May 20, 2017
[quote author=ilynem post=56718199]Sir, there is absolutely no specific way to pray and no specific way to worship. The only condition is praying through Jesus to the father and he will hear u.[/quote

Sir please during the time of Moses so we really pray through Moses ? And at the time of Moses so you pray through Jesus Christ,can you read John 20:17
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 9:05pm On May 20, 2017
[quote author=ilynem post=56716882]Ha. And these are lies sir. Read the verse properly without bias and you will realize that there was no way moses meant "from the Arabs".
Now for similarities between moses and Jesus. I hope you can read this long?
At the time when Moses was born, the Egyptians ruled over the Israelites (Exodus 1:8-10). At the time when Jesus was born, the Romans ruled over the Israelites (Luke 2:1-5). Each was born when the Hebrew nation was occupied and at a low point in history.
Pharaoh ordered all the Hebrew sons to be killed upon birth. When this was not executed by the midwives, Pharaoh then ordered all sons to be killed (Exodus 1:16-22). King Herod ordered all Hebrew sons to be killed upon birth (Matthew 2:16).
When Moses was born, his mother hid him for three months in Egypt (Exodus 2:2). Jesus was hid in Egypt for an unspecified amount of time after birth (Matthew 2:13).
Moses was named as such because he was drawn out of the water (Exodus 2:10). Jesus went straightway out of the water after being baptized by John the Baptist (Matthew 3:11). Drawing from the well of water is a symbol of salvation (Isaiah 12:3). The name Jesus means salvation.
Moses was raised by a man, Pharaoh, who was not his natural father (Exodus 2:9-10). Jesus was raised by a man who was not his natural father (Luke 2:33). In this case, Jesus did not have a natural father.
Moses was initially rejected by his people and took a gentile bride, Zipporah (Exodus 2:11-14 and 16-21). Jesus was initially rejected by his people and took a gentile bride, the Church (2 Corinthians 11:2).
Moses saw his brethren being treated unfairly by the Egyptians and had compassion on them (Exodus 2:11). Jesus saw his brethren as needing a shepherd and had compassion on them (Mark 6:34). Moses took his flock to the Promised Land and Jesus promised His flock heaven.
Moses was at a well and was kind to the daughters of the Midian priests. He watered their flock, which was not a common practice at that time (Exodus 2:17). Jesus was at a well and was kind to a Samaritan woman. He offered her water (John 4:9-11). This practice was also uncommon. The water Jesus offered was the water of salvation.
Moses remained in exile in a foreign land until the King of Egypt (Pharaoh) died (Exodus 2:23). Jesus was in exile in a foreign land (Egypt) until King Herod died. (Matthew 2: 19-20)
Moses’ ministry started supernaturally with the burning bush and God speaking to Him (Exodus 3: 2-4). Jesus’ ministry started supernaturally when the dove descended on Him and a voice from Heaven spoke (Matthew 3:16-17). It is at this point when each gave Revelation to the people.
Moses was sent by God to “come down” and deliver His people to the Promised Land (Exodus 3:cool. Jesus was sent by God to “come down” deliver His people to Heaven (Luke 4:18). You can say that Heaven is now the Promised Land.
Moses performed many public miracles following God’s direction (Exodus 4:4-9). Jesus performed many public miracles following God’s direction (John 5:19-20). The specific miracles differed but each occurred only due to God’s power.
Moses liberated the Hebrews so that they may serve God (Exodus 9:1). Jesus liberated mankind so that mankind may serve God (Hebrews 9:14 and 12:28).
Moses used the blood of a lamb to protect the Israelites from death. The blood was also used to free the Israelites from bondage (Exodus 12). Jesus was the Lamb of God who protected mankind from death. The blood was also used to free mankind from the bondage of sin. (John 1:29 and Hebrews 9:11-15)
Moses used a covenant meal (Passover) for Israel to remember their Lord’s deliverance (Exodus 12:25-27). Jesus used a covenant meal (Last Supper) for his disciples to remember their Lord’s deliverance (Luke 22:14-20).
Moses was used to reveal the healing power of God (Exodus 15:26). Jesus was used to reveal the healing power of God (Matthew 4:23).
Moses fed the multitude of Israelites in a supernatural way (Exodus 16:16). Jesus fed a multitude, 5000 people, in a supernatural way (Matthew 14:19-21).
Moses gave the Israelites bread from Heaven called Manna for 40 years (Exodus 16:27-36). Jesus said He was the bread from heaven that gives life to the world (John 6:33).
Moses instructed his people to gather bread (Manna) daily (Exodus 16:20-21). Jesus instructed His disciples to feed their souls with spiritual bread daily (Matthew 6:11).
Moses feared being stoned by the Israelites (Exodus 17:4). The people were ready to stone Jesus (John 10:31). Each was for different reasons but does demonstrate the spiritual condition of the people.
Moses received God’s Law on Mount Sinai (Exodus 19:3). Jesus delivered the Sermon on the Mount with the promise to fulfill God’s Law (Matthew 5:1-17). The mountain Jesus was on is unnamed but the correlation to both Moses and Jesus using a mountain in reveal matters of God’s Law is important.
Moses was the judge for Israel an the final authority for decision making (Exodus 18-22). Jesus will return as the judge for mankind (2 Corinthians 5:10 and 2 Timothy 4:1).
Moses was a mouthpiece for God by speaking the Words God gave Him. (Exodus 19:7-cool. Jesus was a mouthpiece for God by speaking the Words God gave Him. (John 8:28-29)
God came to Moses in a thick cloud (Exodus 19:9 and 24:16). God came to Jesus in a thick cloud (Mark 9:7).
Moses sprinkled the blood of the first covenant on the people (Exodus 24:cool. Jesus used the blood of the new covenant, His own blood, to sanctify the people (Hebrews 13:12).
God gave Moses commandments to teach His people (Exodus 24:12). God gave Jesus commandments to teach His people (John 13:34)
Moses interceded with God on behalf of the people of Israel (Exodus 32:11-14). Jesus interceded with God on behalf of mankind, fulfilling the prophecy of Isaiah 53:12 by being the final sacrifice for sin (Matthew 20:28).
Moses fasted for 40 days and 40 nights upon receiving the Torah from God (Exodus 34:28). Jesus fasted for 40 days and 40 nights when He was tempted in the wilderness (Matthew 4:1-2).
Moses’ face shone with the glory of God (Exodus 34:29). Jesus’ face shone with the glory of God (Matthew 17:1-12).
God told Moses how He wanted to be worshipped using the Tabernacle (Exodus 40). God told Jesus how He wanted to be worshipped in spirit and in truth (John 4:23-24).
Moses commanded the children of Israel to keep their lamps burning continuously (Leviticus 24:2). Jesus commanded His children to let their light shine continuously before men (Matthew 5:15-16).
Moses’ brethren criticized and challenged Him. (Numbers 12:1-2). Jesus’ brethren criticized and challenged Him. (John 7:5 and Matthew 13:57)
Moses asked God to pardon the inequity of His people (Numbers 14:19) and God listened (Numbers 14:20). Jesus asked God to forgive the inequity of those who crucified Him (Luke 23:34) and God listened (John 11:41-42).
Moses said the little ones would enter the Promised Land (Numbers 14:31). Jesus said the Kingdom of God belonged to the little ones (Mark 10:14).
God showed the Israelites that Moses was sent from Him using signs and wonders (Numbers 16:28). Jesus told the people that His works were to prove the Father was in Him and He was in the Father (John 14:10-11).
Moses made a serpent on a pole and the Israelites were healed when they looked upon it (Numbers 21:9). Jesus was lifted on a pole (the cross) and those who looked up on Him by faith were healed (John 3:14-15).
Moses chose 12 men to go out and bring fruit (Deuteronomy 1:23). Jesus chose 12 men and sent them out to bear fruit (Matthew 10:1).
Moses said that in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses a truth would be established (Deuteronomy 19:15). Jesus said that anywhere 2 or 3 witnesses would gather in His name, He would be in their midst. Jesus is the Truth (Matthew 18:20).
Moses reappeared after His death (Matthew 17:3). Jesus reappeared after His resurrection (Acts 1:3).
Moses was a shepherd of God’s people (Psalms 77:20). Jesus called Himself the “good shepherd” (John 10: 11-16).
Should I go on ,you chose tocopy and paste go on. Jesus and Moses .

Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his
people. John 1:11states, "He came unto his own, but his own received him not."


Both brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18).
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 8:55pm On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
Hmmmm. And you think that is the only way to pray? So if I don't do that God won't answer my prayer? Did he say Allah Akbar like you all say? Now let me educate you sir. You can take any posture to pray.
Is 2 Samuel 7:18, David sat to pray. Mathew 26: 38-39, Jesus prayed with his face to the ground. (We do it too). Luke 22:41, Jesus knelt down to pray. (We do it too). Luke 18 : 10-13, the Pharisees stood to pray. John 17:1, Jesus looked up to heaven to pray.
There is different between prayer and worship,So Christian too worship same way in Nehemiah 8:4-6
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 8:49pm On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
Ha. And these are lies sir. Read the verse properly without bias and you will realize that there was no way moses meant "from the Arabs".
Now for similarities between moses and Jesus. I hope you can read this long?
At the time when Moses was born, the Egyptians ruled over the Israelites (Exodus 1:8-10). At the time when Jesus was born, the Romans ruled over the Israelites (Luke 2:1-5). Each was born when the Hebrew nation was occupied and at a low point in history.
Pharaoh ordered all the Hebrew sons to be killed upon birth. When this was not executed by the midwives, Pharaoh then ordered all sons to be killed (Exodus 1:16-22). King Herod ordered all Hebrew sons to be killed upon birth (Matthew 2:16).
When Moses was born, his mother hid him for three months in Egypt (Exodus 2:2). Jesus was hid in Egypt for an unspecified amount of time after birth (Matthew 2:13).
Moses was named as such because he was drawn out of the water (Exodus 2:10). Jesus went straightway out of the water after being baptized by John the Baptist (Matthew 3:11). Drawing from the well of water is a symbol of salvation (Isaiah 12:3). The name Jesus means salvation.
Moses was raised by a man, Pharaoh, who was not his natural father (Exodus 2:9-10). Jesus was raised by a man who was not his natural father (Luke 2:33). In this case, Jesus did not have a natural father.
Moses was initially rejected by his people and took a gentile bride, Zipporah (Exodus 2:11-14 and 16-21). Jesus was initially rejected by his people and took a gentile bride, the Church (2 Corinthians 11:2).
Moses saw his brethren being treated unfairly by the Egyptians and had compassion on them (Exodus 2:11). Jesus saw his brethren as needing a shepherd and had compassion on them (Mark 6:34). Moses took his flock to the Promised Land and Jesus promised His flock heaven.
Moses was at a well and was kind to the daughters of the Midian priests. He watered their flock, which was not a common practice at that time (Exodus 2:17). Jesus was at a well and was kind to a Samaritan woman. He offered her water (John 4:9-11). This practice was also uncommon. The water Jesus offered was the water of salvation.
Moses remained in exile in a foreign land until the King of Egypt (Pharaoh) died (Exodus 2:23). Jesus was in exile in a foreign land (Egypt) until King Herod died. (Matthew 2: 19-20)
Moses’ ministry started supernaturally with the burning bush and God speaking to Him (Exodus 3: 2-4). Jesus’ ministry started supernaturally when the dove descended on Him and a voice from Heaven spoke (Matthew 3:16-17). It is at this point when each gave Revelation to the people.
Moses was sent by God to “come down” and deliver His people to the Promised Land (Exodus 3:cool. Jesus was sent by God to “come down” deliver His people to Heaven (Luke 4:18). You can say that Heaven is now the Promised Land.
Moses performed many public miracles following God’s direction (Exodus 4:4-9). Jesus performed many public miracles following God’s direction (John 5:19-20). The specific miracles differed but each occurred only due to God’s power.
Moses liberated the Hebrews so that they may serve God (Exodus 9:1). Jesus liberated mankind so that mankind may serve God (Hebrews 9:14 and 12:28).
Moses used the blood of a lamb to protect the Israelites from death. The blood was also used to free the Israelites from bondage (Exodus 12). Jesus was the Lamb of God who protected mankind from death. The blood was also used to free mankind from the bondage of sin. (John 1:29 and Hebrews 9:11-15)
Moses used a covenant meal (Passover) for Israel to remember their Lord’s deliverance (Exodus 12:25-27). Jesus used a covenant meal (Last Supper) for his disciples to remember their Lord’s deliverance (Luke 22:14-20).
Moses was used to reveal the healing power of God (Exodus 15:26). Jesus was used to reveal the healing power of God (Matthew 4:23).
Moses fed the multitude of Israelites in a supernatural way (Exodus 16:16). Jesus fed a multitude, 5000 people, in a supernatural way (Matthew 14:19-21).
Moses gave the Israelites bread from Heaven called Manna for 40 years (Exodus 16:27-36). Jesus said He was the bread from heaven that gives life to the world (John 6:33).
Moses instructed his people to gather bread (Manna) daily (Exodus 16:20-21). Jesus instructed His disciples to feed their souls with spiritual bread daily (Matthew 6:11).
Moses feared being stoned by the Israelites (Exodus 17:4). The people were ready to stone Jesus (John 10:31). Each was for different reasons but does demonstrate the spiritual condition of the people.
Moses received God’s Law on Mount Sinai (Exodus 19:3). Jesus delivered the Sermon on the Mount with the promise to fulfill God’s Law (Matthew 5:1-17). The mountain Jesus was on is unnamed but the correlation to both Moses and Jesus using a mountain in reveal matters of God’s Law is important.
Moses was the judge for Israel an the final authority for decision making (Exodus 18-22). Jesus will return as the judge for mankind (2 Corinthians 5:10 and 2 Timothy 4:1).
Moses was a mouthpiece for God by speaking the Words God gave Him. (Exodus 19:7-cool. Jesus was a mouthpiece for God by speaking the Words God gave Him. (John 8:28-29)
God came to Moses in a thick cloud (Exodus 19:9 and 24:16). God came to Jesus in a thick cloud (Mark 9:7).
Moses sprinkled the blood of the first covenant on the people (Exodus 24:cool. Jesus used the blood of the new covenant, His own blood, to sanctify the people (Hebrews 13:12).
God gave Moses commandments to teach His people (Exodus 24:12). God gave Jesus commandments to teach His people (John 13:34)
Moses interceded with God on behalf of the people of Israel (Exodus 32:11-14). Jesus interceded with God on behalf of mankind, fulfilling the prophecy of Isaiah 53:12 by being the final sacrifice for sin (Matthew 20:28).
Moses fasted for 40 days and 40 nights upon receiving the Torah from God (Exodus 34:28). Jesus fasted for 40 days and 40 nights when He was tempted in the wilderness (Matthew 4:1-2).
Moses’ face shone with the glory of God (Exodus 34:29). Jesus’ face shone with the glory of God (Matthew 17:1-12).
God told Moses how He wanted to be worshipped using the Tabernacle (Exodus 40). God told Jesus how He wanted to be worshipped in spirit and in truth (John 4:23-24).
Moses commanded the children of Israel to keep their lamps burning continuously (Leviticus 24:2). Jesus commanded His children to let their light shine continuously before men (Matthew 5:15-16).
Moses’ brethren criticized and challenged Him. (Numbers 12:1-2). Jesus’ brethren criticized and challenged Him. (John 7:5 and Matthew 13:57)
Moses asked God to pardon the inequity of His people (Numbers 14:19) and God listened (Numbers 14:20). Jesus asked God to forgive the inequity of those who crucified Him (Luke 23:34) and God listened (John 11:41-42).
Moses said the little ones would enter the Promised Land (Numbers 14:31). Jesus said the Kingdom of God belonged to the little ones (Mark 10:14).
God showed the Israelites that Moses was sent from Him using signs and wonders (Numbers 16:28). Jesus told the people that His works were to prove the Father was in Him and He was in the Father (John 14:10-11).
Moses made a serpent on a pole and the Israelites were healed when they looked upon it (Numbers 21:9). Jesus was lifted on a pole (the cross) and those who looked up on Him by faith were healed (John 3:14-15).
Moses chose 12 men to go out and bring fruit (Deuteronomy 1:23). Jesus chose 12 men and sent them out to bear fruit (Matthew 10:1).
Moses said that in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses a truth would be established (Deuteronomy 19:15). Jesus said that anywhere 2 or 3 witnesses would gather in His name, He would be in their midst. Jesus is the Truth (Matthew 18:20).
Moses reappeared after His death (Matthew 17:3). Jesus reappeared after His resurrection (Acts 1:3).
Moses was a shepherd of God’s people (Psalms 77:20). Jesus called Himself the “good shepherd” (John 10: 11-16).
Should I go on?
Go on but all what you listed are not yet the like, who is the father of Jesus, Jesus is a bachelor yes or no. How Many children can you name that are biologically children of Jesus, Moses died naturally no crucifixion Jesus was said to be crucified, Moses never suffered ignominious death, Jesus Christ was ignominious kill. What about those likeness can we say they are thesame ?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 7:59pm On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
Sir, version do not mislead. One version only explains better what another didn't pass across.
My brother it explains better what others didn't pass across are you sure the bible is a word of god
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 7:48pm On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
Sir, are you confused? Don't you know what Brethren means? The prophet was to be raised from Israel. Show me where Muhammad was mentioned?
Brethren of Jew are the Arabs where Prophet Muhammad was raised, Moses and Jesus were both jews ,and Moses said the prophet will be like unto thee, he will be like him. Jesus was not like Moses, example Jesus has only mother, but Moses and Muhammad both of them have mother and father, Both m and m they have wife, Jesus has no wife.
They had children and died naturally. In conclusion
Prophet Muhammad was like Prophet Moses.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 7:21pm On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
Sir, are you confused? Don't you know what Brethren means? The prophet was to be raised from Israel. Show me where Muhammad was mentioned?
NIV and KJV are just playing with you guys, if KJv should mention Isrealite am expecting NIv to mention Isrealite .this Show how they misled and misinterpreted for you guys. Am sorry for that have you read same verse in Queens James version.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 7:08pm On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
Sir, are you confused? Don't you know what Brethren means? The prophet was to be raised from Israel. Show me where Muhammad was mentioned?
Pls which version of the bible did you have. Because the inspiration in translation of the bible are different from others,almost all the versions of the bible are misinterpreted, if Kjv say 2,Niv will say 3,or good news will say 6.can you Pls explain the situation of the translation because they have been misleading follower.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 7:00pm On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
Sir, are you confused? Don't you know what Brethren means? The prophet was to be raised from Israel. Show me where Muhammad was mentioned?
so you now see that Jesus Christ is a prophet .trinity is just a concoction and fallacies.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 6:53pm On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
I don't even understand you. And I don't need to go my pastors to teach me everything. I have the Holy spirit. And sir, your prophet claims he was mentioned by name in the Bible. Can you spot the place?
You have Holy Spirit explain this verse clearly to me what those it looks like Nehemiah 8:4-6.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 3:21pm On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
Sir, the prophet that was asked of was that which moses spoke about in Deuteronomy 18:15. The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you – from your fellow Israelites; you must listen to him.
So you see? There is absolutely no way it can be Muhammad because it was said from among the Israelites.
That prophet came in the form of Jesus. The priests and the Levites believed the Christ and the prophet were two different people. But Jesus was that prophet. Go back to Deuteronomy 18 and read the qualities of that prophet and then compare them to both Jesus and Muhammad. He fits the description of Jesus perfectly. So the Christ and the Prophet are one.
And as for the guy that told you its Isaiah, people of like faith don't always agree on a thing. As a Muslim you should be used to that perfectly.
Deutonomy 18:18-19 is talking about who. You have failed John 1:19-21,

Deu18:18-18KJV:I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
NIV:I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him..

Pls which version is correct Kjv or Niv. Check this word among their brethren and fellow Israelites are they thesame. And explain
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 3:08pm On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
Sir I already explained the whole thing to you. Read carefully. You don't cherry pick verses. Understanding it is understanding the context of the verse which I have provided for you. The instruction was for the disorganized church in Corinth and Paul was only trying to achieve orderliness in that church.
You better chose where lie salvation instead of spiritualism your life no heavenly gained if you continue like this.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 3:03pm On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
Sir I already explained the whole thing to you. Read carefully. You don't cherry pick verses. Understanding it is understanding the context of the verse which I have provided for you. The instruction was for the disorganized church in Corinth and Paul was only trying to achieve orderliness in that church.
Paul succeeded in using Christ
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 2:49pm On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
Sir I already explained the whole thing to you. Read carefully. You don't cherry pick verses. Understanding it is understanding the context of the verse which I have provided for you. The instruction was for the disorganized church in Corinth and Paul was only trying to achieve orderliness in that church.
Go and asked your pastors, I think they may help in convinced you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 2:41pm On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
Are you saying that is Muhammad? Really? Sir I suggest you stop listening to too much Muslim clerics and read on your own to understand. I will ask you. John came to prepare the way for someone. Who was that person? Stop quoting the Bible out of context.
Let's start from John 1:12.
12] But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

[13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

[14] And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

[15] John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

[16] And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

[17] For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

[18] No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

[19] And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?

[20] And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I 12] But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

[13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

[14] And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

[15] John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

[16] And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

[17] For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

[18] No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

[19] And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?

[20] And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ.

[21] And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.

[21] And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.

Sir from the passage and pay close attention to the passage. The prophet John was talking about was Jesus. Not Muhammad.
I know your next question. How can Jesus be a prophet and be God at the same time? I will advice that if you need an answer to that question, you need to have an open mind. So I will ask you sir. Do you want to fully understand what the Trinity is? Because that is the only way you can understand how Jesus can be a prophet of God and God at the same time. If your answer is yes, I will give you a clear explanation and you will never be in doubt again.
You have not answer my question about John, three prophets are asked of Christ, Elias, and that prophet. Who is the prophet apart from Christ and Elias they have already asked tell me.

A Christian brother told me it was Isiah and you said it was Jesus, are you confused
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 2:30pm On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
Sir, what is John 1: 19-21? I read it and still don't get the point you are trying to make.
And no! Women are allowed to speak in churches. Read 1st Corinthians 11: 5. Paul clearly States women can pray and prophesy. Sir, context is key. Paul was writing to the Corinth on their disorganized services. If you had taken the time to read other verses instead of cherry picking you would have discovered the following.
Verses 27–28a, “If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret. But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church.”
• Verses 29–31a, “Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first be silent. For you can all prophesy one by one.”
Paul was giving rules for the church in Corinth which was disorganized at that time. It wasn't a standing order.
If a woman wants to pray or prophesy in church, let her do so while showing the proper respect for church authority; otherwise, let her remain silent. Sir, to understand the Bible, you don't cherry pick verses. You read the whole thing with inspiration of the Holy spirit.
And who says women shouldn't be allowed in church during their cycle? I don't know where that came from.
And finally, Head covering. Sir, this is still a debate among various christian churches. Many churches take to head covering while some don't. But the fact was that head covering was the sign of a Chaste, respectful woman. It was the tradition at that time.
1corentia 14:34-35
Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.
35
NIV:If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church

Please explain the verse spiritualy. So is even a disgrace for women to speak in the church and you said they share the same authority.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 2:18pm On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
Sir, what is John 1: 19-21? I read it and still don't get the point you are trying to make.
And no! Women are allowed to speak in churches. Read 1st Corinthians 11: 5. Paul clearly States women can pray and prophesy. Sir, context is key. Paul was writing to the Corinth on their disorganized services. If you had taken the time to read other verses instead of cherry picking you would have discovered the following.
Verses 27–28a, “If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret. But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church.”
• Verses 29–31a, “Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first be silent. For you can all prophesy one by one.”
Paul was giving rules for the church in Corinth which was disorganized at that time. It wasn't a standing order.
If a woman wants to pray or prophesy in church, let her do so while showing the proper respect for church authority; otherwise, let her remain silent. Sir, to understand the Bible, you don't cherry pick verses. You read the whole thing with inspiration of the Holy spirit.
And who says women shouldn't be allowed in church during their cycle? I don't know where that came from.
And finally, Head covering. Sir, this is still a debate among various christian churches. Many churches take to head covering while some don't. But the fact was that head covering was the sign of a Chaste, respectful woman. It was the tradition at that time.
John 1:19-21ow this was John’s testimony when the Jewish leaders in Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him who he was.
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NIV:He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, “I am not the Messiah.”
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NIV:They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” He answered, “No.”

Are you the prohet ? In verse 21,can you please tell me the name of the prophet. And why they don't want to put the real name in the English translation .
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m):
ilynem:
Sir, you haven't refuted any of my claims. You haven't told me why women are second class citizens in Islam. And paul wrote letters to churches. We are the churches. Those letters were inspired by God. I know you will call Paul a false prophet. But what proof do you have that Muhammad was a real prophet? Paul's teachings were In line with Jesus' teachings and there was no way that Muhammad and Jesus taught the same thing.
Finally sir, created in the Image doesn't mean physical image. It signifies authority. And women have as much authority as men and so shouldn't be treated as though they are not as important.
What image then ? Read John 1: 19-21

Do you know women her to remain silent in the church and you said they share same authority

So nothing like prophetess. Women are not allow to the church during their menstrual cycles.

Women are said to covered their Head. if not covered shave them. It a pity you people don't know what you are told to do.
Read this verses to prove MUHAMMAD pbuh was sent same way Moses, Abraham, Jesus were all sent
John 14:16,Deutonomy18:18,isiaih29:12. Manage this verses first before I take them one by one to get you into salvation.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 12:44pm On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
Sir, you people fail to understand the fundamentals of Christianity. We are not under the law of Moses. We under grace through the death and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ. That verse you quoted was a law given to a particular set of people at a particular time. No one knew why that law was given. And judging from the peculiarity of the law, it was probably given because something like that had happened before. How many times do you see two men fighting and the wife of one grabs the other by his private parts?
Sir, the Bible gives women a special status. Feminism was started in the Bible and I will give you proof. No human is meant to be beneath another. No Human should be treated as second class citizens. The resurrection of our Lord (which is one of the fundamental of our faith) was entrusted into the hands of women. They were the first to carry this news. So I am a Christian today because of the testimony of women. But your Hadith degrades them by saying their testimonies are worth half of a man's because of the deficiency of their mind.
Galatians 3: 26-28:

[26] For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

[27] For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

[28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Notice the bolded. There is neither Jew nor Greek. This means once you are into Christ, your tribe of beliefs do not matter. Whether you are Hausa or Igbo or Yoruba, it doesn't matter as long as you are one in Christ. That means in Christ there is no tribalism.
There is neither bond nor free . I don't need to explain that. It simply means there should be no slaves nor masters. We are all one.
There is neither male nor female . This simply means no gender is above another. That right there sir is feminism. And that is how it is meant to be. If we are all created in the image of God, why is one gender above another?
If we are created in Image of god it means God also have anus ? Is god male or female ? You chose to used your own opinion or ideas to continue misunderstanding
No tribalism in Islam Once you say the shahada (Testifying that no any other god but Allah and Prophet Muhammad is a messenger of Allah) that is why we pray together go to hajj from different countries China, Ghana, Philipian, name them.

Please Galatians, thessilonia, and Corinthians especially was a letter written by Paul to people of corinthins and You chose to be abide by the message of those people.

Jesus never saw all those books of Bible. Saw what is the name Of Jesus Church ?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 11:18am On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
Sir, the Koran doesn't say anything about light beating. It says "scourge" which is serious and hard. And you ignored the Hadith I showed you. Islam encourages beating of women and that is very wrong. Go and see how women suffer in Muslim countries all in the name of religion.
Deutonomy 25 vs 11:12 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts,
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NIV:you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.

Compare this verse with our discussion.Even is a mistake they should cut off her hand no pity. Read this Quran verse is telling you don't even beat, you don't need to confuse your self, it is straight way straight path read the verse in between.

Quran 34:4 Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allâh has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient (to Allâh and to their husbands), and guard in the husband's absence what Allâh orders them to guard (e.g. their chastity, their husband's property, etc.). As to those women on whose part you see ill­conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful), but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allâh is Ever Most High, Most Great
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 6:45am On May 20, 2017
ilynem:
Beat them lightly? The Koran never specified that they should be beaten lightly. Some versions of your Koran uses the word "scourge" and that means to course great suffering to someone. Now let's look at your Hadiths shall we?
Sahih al-Bukhari 5825—Narrated Ikrima: Rifaa divorced his wife whereupon Abdur-Rahman married her. Aisha said that the lady came wearing a green veil and complained to her (Aisha) and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating. It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah’s messenger came, Aisha said, “I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!”
Two things. Aisha says "I have not seen any woman suffering like the believing women". This means that all the pagans at that time you lot love to condemn and praise Muhammad for saving them even had women that didn't suffer like the Muslims.
Secondly that woman was beaten till her skin was greener than her clothes. That must have been some " light beating".
You have now understand even prophet save the pagans women, see you practice and follow the prophet, if God say things like Salat, fasting, going to hajj, then beat women lightly in the Quran such verse those not teach how many times are you too pray, fast but only the prophet can explain more of them. Don't let us go Into serious discussion about this beating is a simple and straight forward thing, your own thinking is beating,
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Christian Girl Converted To Islam (Photo) by nurusystem(m): 9:32pm On May 19, 2017
ilynem:
Saw this post on Facebook. You couldn't even edit it before posting. I just couldn't stop laughing after reading it.I guess no one showed her Koran 4:34.
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Beat them lightly, so what is wrong with that verse, do you no what it means, do you know how to beat ,my brother you are not prophet to explain how are we going to do the beating, so seek more knowledge about this..

When the bible say kill a woman If she touch a man private part mistakeling during fight with her husband
and other man
Politics › Re: Photos Of Babangida Aliyu In Court Today by nurusystem(m): 9:55pm On May 16, 2017
This Man is a crazy criminal and look at is face like thief.
Romance › Re: Please Help On Masturbation by nurusystem(m): 9:45pm On May 16, 2017
Nina4u:
Some people think tattoos and piercing is a sin ... What does the bible really say about tattoos ??
Well The Old Testament law commanded the Israelites, “Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD” (Leviticus 19:28).It says FOR THE DEAD ...
So, even though believers today are not under the Old Testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15), the fact that there was a command against tattoos should raise some questions.

Olodo you don't know your bible you are so ignorant,


The New Testament does not say anything about whether or not a believer should get a tattoo.....
Nine verses earlier in the same chapter (Leviticus 19:19) the people of Israel were also commanded to avoid mixing fibers in garments:
Nor shall a garment of mixed linen and wool come upon you.
Therefore, if someone chose to consider a tattoo sinful, then they would have to toss all their cotton/polyester clothing too! It also say do not cut ur beard ...and hair among other things...

With regard to tattoos and other matters of secondary importance, we shouldnt judge others because they are accountable to the Lord and not to us (Rom. 14:4, 10-12). This means respecting each other’s opinion as we can have differing views on what pleases the Lord (1 Th. 4:1)........

Also, because images affect thoughts, any tattoo that you might get should focus on what is true, honorable, right, pure, lovely, admirable, excellent and praiseworthy, and not obscene (Phil. 4:8; Eph. 5:3-5). For example, it could symbolize a Biblical truth which represents your relationship with Christ....
To me ...Tattos are artwork .....It is beyond doubt that tattoos are NOT sinful and that Christians expressing their faith with some ink under their skin have NOT succumbed to Satan's wiles (at least, not because of the tattoos).
Yet, let us remember that just because we are allowed to be tattooed, doesn't mean that this is what is best for everyone..... St. Paul tells us that we need to be careful that our actions do not lead others away from the faith....it is up to each and one of us to deside if it ir right for us or not ...It is whats in ur heart that will be juged by God ...
What people think of u doesnt define u ...Your words and deeds do ...
You're olodo please read this verse below
Mathew 5 vs 17:18
NIV:“17Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
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NIV:For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Muslims Going To Heaven? - Daddy Freeze Gives An Answer by nurusystem(m): 4:53pm On May 16, 2017
Quran 98:6 Verily, those who disbelieve (in the religion of Islâm, the Qur'ân and Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him)) from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and Al-Mushrikûn will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures.[


This is just the final judgment on heaven
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Adeboye's Holy Ghost Event In Yola, See Crowd by nurusystem(m): 7:38pm On May 09, 2017
Pointblank09:
More offering for baba G.O.
More poverty for tithe payers. All in the mighty name of Jesus.
I know many people would not like my comment because Nigeria is full of hypocrites.
FTC.
God bless
You
Woe unto those who collect tithe living the heavier matters.
Newfilm of mirackes
Politics › Re: Fayose & Wike Inspect Rivers Pleasure Park, To Be Commissioned This Month by nurusystem(m): 2:47pm On May 08, 2017
TippyTop:
So Fayose, FFK and Wike have succeeded in driving Bubu to london, chai! grin


Wike has done really well in terms of infrastructure.
Infrastructure abi pocketstructure all this wike are currypt
Christianity Etc › Re: 3 Ways To Effectively Bear The Mark Of Christ by nurusystem(m): 11:05am On May 08, 2017
Ajewealth123:
you just talked like someone who smoked soak away. You need enlightenment.
Actually seun caused this. It is either he is bribed or he likes to see Christians ridiculed.
You censored Muslim section and allowed every dick tom and Harry to masturbate on Christian thread?
Talk about being biased
You are brainwash my guy
Crime › Re: Charles Miniku, Rivers Monarch Assassinated While In A Meeting With Other Chiefs by nurusystem(m): 5:53pm On May 07, 2017
LionDeLeo:
Ipobs are coming to blame bubu.
They are not Nigerian, we don't need them.
Politics › Re: Buhari Orders Opening Of Maritime University In Delta by nurusystem(m): 5:43pm On May 07, 2017
jjjjj2017:
Nuru Ewure, were ni baba e
Iya ré werei tutu ni, you chose to insult me and my judgment on you is you will crucify in Jesu name. Amin
Christianity Etc › Re: 3 Ways To Effectively Bear The Mark Of Christ by nurusystem(m): 5:40pm On May 07, 2017
motherlode:
Like seriously, I wonder how many times you read that passage of the Bible before quoting it here. That passage of the Bible was actually talking about prophet Isaiah and not your prophet Muhammed. Please learn not to read the Bible just because you want to quote scriptures for counter arguments, your lack of understanding of these scriptures will only be made more visible because it centres around whatever thing you do. Salvation through Christ Jesus is not by force but free to all and thats why you as a person was created to express your free will, always learn not to be a bigot because it will keep defining whatever you do.
Obgona onu thank you but please go and check the Greek Bible you Will be surprise to See the MUHAMMAD you don't believe in. Isaiah is not even among the option. Nothing really bigot in saying the truth about what god has blessed. I pray you will not be among those Jesus Christ will say get away from me. And ask your parents, pastor why they didn't put MUHAMMAD or Isaiah that they now say prophet .Why the name is missing, are you Christ and Elias are all there. May God opens your eyes bros.
Celebrities › Re: Kemi Olunloyo Speaks To Daddy Freeze From Prison, Sings Igbo Song (Video) by nurusystem(m): 3:12am On May 06, 2017
Fake pastor punishing is Christian sister, later on calling Jesus Christ like a good person and you are so wicked like Satan. No different between this pastor and Satan, no heart for forgiveness. Omema people.

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