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Roland17:
In my opinion the embolden should have been his first step. As a guy, you should establish and secure yourself to a reasonable extent before considering a wife, especially one you are importing from Naija.

He was in such haste and planned poorly.

To be honest, the guy would have hit jackpot if his wife didn’t turn out bad.
We all wished we had someone to partner with paying off tuition fees but now I’m done… no regrets
I guess he didn’t plan it well and only looked at the immediate benefits.

raumdeuter:
This is what I tell every single person trying to Japa. I told Joezinho the same. Fly solo. When you get there find person on your level not someone who fit dey pretend just to be part of the japa package

That’s the best advice to give any young guy looking at japaing….

Nezzjnr:
Omooooo this is scary

It is
Na why I no Dey reply Facebook chat from any girl in naija…

raumdeuter:
So if the guys status is lost because he cannot pay school fees, what happens to the wife's job and status

I think her employment depends on the guy remaining in status

She could be on protection visa if she claims domestic violence or even marries another person I reckon…. The guy can show proof of no domestic violence though and they both get deported

BlueRayDick:
Japa gang …… but why naija women dey always change the moment they get financially independent abroad ?

He wan marry good woman for naija instead of him to marry his level in the UK or better still establish himself before getting married.

Ibime:
The way Reno is attacking Obi in defence of Tinubu, is Atiku no longer in the race?

He should save his energy for Wike who is the one attacking his principy, abi fear dey catch am?

Pained Obi took most of Atiku’s votes I reckon

Free from Anti-spambot

nihilistjnr:
Whether you know anybody or not is irrelevant.

The koko is that there are thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands who are suffering at the hands of IPOB, ESN etc everyday.

The tweet you posted was discussing the effects of these guys on people who unlike you know people who carry Biafra on their heads, 5 of whom were just shot to death in the Enugu you just said was Chill..

A and B.

Ok you win

afrodoc:
Lol i was about copy and paste 256,902 posts blaming her for Biafra here from other threads.

But wait o you are accepting only opinions from this thread but you still went to copy and paste an opinion from front page and brought it here?

Double standards?

I brought a different topic and you turned it to the Queen doc.
It wasn’t any double standard, you just took it to that level

nihilistjnr:
Yeah but you omitted the rest of the thread where he calls out IPOB, ESN, and Ebube Agwu specifically for what they're doing.

He denounces IPOB as terrorists and their actions as Gang wars.

What he said did not support your anecdotal argument that you'd never seen or heard about IPOB in 5 years.

The man is literally telling you that these IPOB guys are active all over the south east and using the Biafra cause to prosecute their selfish business.

Like I said, A and B

Like I said, you like reading B
I said I don’t KNOW anyone carrying Biafra for head… You definitely understood that but decided to call me out.
I read where he called out Ipob and just like him, a lot of us are against them.

afrodoc:
No one is blaming the Queen for Biafra?

Meant amongst us here
I’ve actually never seen anyone blame the Queen until ahhh sprouted out.

afrodoc:
The issue is that people keep changing the topic being discussed. It started with a debate over whether the late queen was responsible for the death of millions during the Biafra War but you are now presenting anecdotal evidence that nobody in the Awka is obsessed with Biafra.

Even if nobody in Awka thinks about Biafra that is not the question to be answered. How is the popularity of Biafra in Awka linked to the culpability of the queen (or other players) in the civil war.

Well doc, if y’all want to keep discussing the Queen and Biafra… y’all can continue
I saw something on frontpage nairaland I second with and brought here

Finally, no one’s blaming the Queen for Biafra… but as it is all over the world…. Some are happy she kicked bucket, some are sad.

nihilistjnr:
You're saying A, the person whose tweet you posted is saying B.

I showed you the first screenshot where he said it’s dead in the South East
I further stated I don’t know anyone carrying the matter for their head but all these you chose to ignore
Obviously I’ve seen in the media people supporting Ipob and I know it’s an issue
I moved out of Awka around 2016, one year after Buhari… I can definitely Buhari made Nnamdi Kanu popular because dude was irrelevant
Now he wears rabbi hat like some god

nihilistjnr:
You never heard of Massob or IPOB in Akwa?

I wonder if the people sitting at home every Monday did though...

Ofcourse they’ve been there but like I said, I personally don’t know anyone clamouring for Biafra and believe me, I have a large extended family as well as lots of friends.
I lived within the communities, travelled around Anambra and when enter buses… You’ll see more of Israel and Nigerian flags.
In my opinion, it’s more rampant in Abia and Imo state but Anambra, Enugu and Ebonyi are pretty chill on the issue.
My opinion though

This man captures it, I don’t even know anyone carrying Biafra on their head
Five years in Awka and I never heard it in lecture rooms or anywhere.
I guess people prefer being called Nigerians…. We hope whoever wins next year takes us forward

Amoto94:
Like I have always maintained there are lines you don't cross and once you chose to cross such you should be prepared to face any consequence that follows suit, we don't pick which line to cross at our convenience and not expect a pushback. To some it is their faith, ethnicity, family, source of livelihood, friends and others it is something other than those; I always avoid insulting the sensibilities of others but once you insult mine expect my reaction.

Why do you always type irrelevant things

seankafor:
bro on one was blaming the queen for today's unbecomings as nihilist and above posters paints it to seem

If someone was at the forefront of your maltreatment, let's say 50 years ago.. yes today you have moved on.. but let's say that person happens to die or an event happens that makes you remember those days and you re opportuned to voice your opinion.. will you sing kumbaya to the culprit in the name of moving on?

Won't you recount those years the person maltreated and treated you wrong?
I don't get what these. People mean

So we shouldn't remember what the Britain and hag Elizabeth did to our fathers in the Biafra struggle just because we have moved on?

I mean how hard was it to understand
Like anyone has ever blamed the Queen for our failures as a nation.

EmmanuelScott1:
See as baba drop this bomb

Cc. Nihilistjnr

https://www.nairaland.com/7326792/buhari-queen-elizabeth-backed-nigeria

Saw it but not in any mood to win Nairaland argument d’or

Unlimited22:
Bruh, the entire state of New York


These boys did mad tings during lock down shaa. From palliative funds to things like this but this one is mad.

Dubai would have rounded up all Nigerians there…. US is so rich mehn

nihilistjnr:
Bros I told you to hop out my mentions hours ago.

I'm talking A you're talking B.

Or maybe you chose to read B bros
Anyways Bye

nihilistjnr:
UK will always support their interests whenever there's a war. There was nothing hidden about that. We saw Roland17 clapping for UK support for Ukraine not too long ago. I don't know why it's when it comes to Biafra that you're talking about textbooks.

If your point was that the UK supported FG, then ok, you've veered off into the realm of irrelevance again.

I was asking what the Queen had to do with that unfortunate war. If you agree that the Queen isn't to blame here, then what is left to discuss?

You just complained about your tax going to the royals..
If you feel they didn’t benefit from the looted coals and oils… then there’s nothing left to discuss

nihilistjnr:
That article you posted points fingers at Harold Wilson and does not mention the Queen once.

BTW that article is clearly biased and skewing against the British Government because the guardian skews left. And before you accuse me of agenda, I skew left too and infact I pay a monthly subscription to support the Guardian. (See attached)

There's a lot of little details here and there that affect the narrative and impact objective appraisal of the facts

The writer seeks to frame the Biafra war as a battle between thr Igbos who had their reasons and a "brutal" Federal Government who came to power in a 1966 Coup.

However if you are knowledgeable about Nigeran history, you would realise that Ojukwu was part of that 1966 Government, and was appointed Military Governor of Eastern Region by Ironsi himself.

Infact not only was Ojukwu head of the Eastern region, he was a member of the 10 man Supreme Military Council that ruled Nigeria.

In simple terms, Ojukwu WAS the Federal Government.

When you see an article that omits such a crucial element from the story, you realise thar you're dealing with serious bias and there's some agenda to the story - in this one, it's to attack Harold Wilson and UK involvement in foreign wars which is very much on brand for the Guardian.

Still not blaming the Queen
I also know the article doesn’t tell all on how the war started
I showed you the article so you know Britains involvement as that was probably not taught in history classes
You can pull up any article online and it will tell you

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/british-interests-nigerian-tragedy-1136684.html?amp

nihilistjnr:
At what point is thr Queen mentioned.

Just screenshot the part.

At no point did I blame the Queen and like I said, I don’t share the same view as the professor.
But then I asked you why are people point fingers at the Queen, simple….because she’s the only one that lived in that time.
No one’s going to point at David Cameron or Boris Johnson
In fact the UK just like the US government have changed in the in the past decades, only one constant all these while.
Doesn’t mean she was involved, but an outsider with little knowledge will think she calls the shot
Hope you get my point now?

nihilistjnr:
Have you actually read this article?

Yes I did

BlueAngel444:
lol as a leader I know there are times we let things happen not because we want them to. So in a way yes being a symbol means bearing the responsibility but that's never the full story.

I have stories were kingdoms went to wars not because the king wanted it but the prime minister orchestred it.

Anyway sha u are free to continue just felt like sharing.. bored matchless weekend

The Queen is just ceremonial, I definitely won’t blame her for anything.

nihilistjnr:
All of this one is a different argument wey no consign me.

I already said I am anti-monarchist. I am a British citizen that pays tax, and I have zero interest in using my hard earned money to support a privileged family that a wealthier than my generations put together.


What I am discussing specifically was the stupidity of Uju Anya's, and subsequently Roland17's comments about the Queens involvement in the Nigerian Civil war.

And if you do a search of my username you will see that I am and have consistently been pro-Biafra for years on this forum.

If you want to discuss the queen and Biafra, then let's go to that other thread. If you want to discuss Ireland, Asia, or Potatoes, my G climb the nearest kangaroo and hop out of my mentions.

Like I stated earlier, I don’t share the same sentiment with Uju as common sense tells me the crown does not call the shot in politics of the UK.
UK was involved in the war whether before or after and the Queen is the symbol of everything UK



https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/21/buried-50-years-britain-shamesful-role-biafran-war-frederick-forsyth

nihilistjnr:
What does thar have to do with Biafra?

The crown is a symbol of UK fuuckups in the past from forced amalgamation to colonisation… The issue is bigger than Biafra war you painting it as.
She still wore the $400m stollen diamond till death even with all the noise from Asia.

nihilistjnr:
Just imagine the guy that is delighted about US and UK involvement in supporting Ukraine during this war, under this same Queen....

Looking for apology from the same Queen.

What a joker

So why don’t the Irish like her?

BlaqFaze:
We have the habit of choosing what to believe in this country...

There are numerous post on nairaland's fp where the igbo will burn her maid with hot iron and stuffs like that but let's pretend it never happened.

Do you know most of the times, it’s relatives that come to live in the house and then we have wicked moms that do this things..
My cousin lived with us right from JS 1 to SS3, he had same opportunities as me and even more, now he’s in Perth with my mom helping…

Ballzproblem2:
that guy glouriousgbola na. big idiot ,e be like say Igbo woman snatch in papa from en mama , glouriousgbola no go turn to "oshodi Hitler" because of ya hatred for Igbo people , you were talking about queen Lizzy,stick to it.

I just Dey notice his post… should have known

Nezzjnr:
Na only Igbo get House helps

The other tribes... Na Relatives dey come help them.

Most Families I know in Festac do hire people that come in the morning and go when when they're done with their duties in the house for that day.

Jealousy is a killer