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A40:
As a Backup!! Abi no be the same Madrid buy Thomas Gravesen?

We're calling fullbacks you're calling Steve friggin Finnan

what were his flaws sir

A40:
Lool. Riise? Taye Taiwo's Viking Brother?

Dudek?

Steve Finnan? Haha you're making my point for me.

stop making things up. Madrid bought that dudek. risse was not as bad as u guys are painting. finan too

nihilistjnr:
These are the kind of daft yarns that i'm talking about. Are you suggesting that the best team always wins the tournament? or that the better team always wins a match?

Are you not a manyoo fan? Is Derby County better than Manyoo?

OK the only game of tournament was the final abi. let derby go and win d tournament.

nihilistjnr:
The only person conflicted is you -

First you accuse me of saying something I did not say, then you're asking me to defend something I didn't say, while interspersing these false accusations with some incredibly daft and obtuse statements

That's why i said you have comprehension and possibly eyesight issues. These are not insults. They actually sound like facts

if you can't see the word ' anybody can stumble into a final' in your statement then u need to visit an optician.

nihilistjnr:
Apart from Ronaldo, Nani, Pepe and Sanches were rubbish abeg.

Are you joking or being serious right now?

rubbish that France couldn't win. so cos dey are not in big clubs dey are rubbish. bros forget.

nihilistjnr:
this is what I said here:



So maybe you should add comprehension or even eyesight issues to your growing list of problems.

Unlimited22 fit help you with eye drops for your apollo

conflicting sentences. what do u stand for?
are they all rubbish without Gerrard or not?
your story is too much.
and you insult a lot for a matured man.

nihilistjnr:
Explain Portugal in Euro 2016. Let's start from there.

Ronaldo, nani, pepe , Sanchez,. they are rubbish

nihilistjnr:
I think you have a mental problem.

so you can't be rubbish if your team wins UCL? Morata and Benzema didn't get the memo then.

To put it in further context for you, if you're old enough to remember, Djimi Traore starting in Istanbul for Liverpool....

Djimi Traore.

Google him if you don't know who he is, and then come back to read your post again

bros u dey change talk. una say all the players bar Gerrard na rubbish.
I'm telling you its false. no turn amala

nihilistjnr:
What kind of stupid talk is this early momo ffs?

Do I really have to explain the meaning of 'anybody can stumble into a final'?

bros u say anybody can stumble in. how stupid can DAT be

nihilistjnr:
Anybody can stumble into a final, but that Liverpool team was average at worst, good at best. Gerrard carried Liverpool on his back for almost his entire career.

why have you not stumbled in since 2012 na. why have Almighty hazard not been able to carry Chelsea on his back. bro no vex me

nihilistjnr:
Xabi Alonso at Liverpool was not the same player as the one at Madrid or Bayern abeg.

Let me just pretend I didn't see the other names you wrote there

so the others were rubbish? rubbish that won champions league. were was frog a and terry and your other superstars

rock003:
She is an Igbo actress acting Yoruba movies. It's simple common sense, Oga.

see yourself.

Nogodye:
The reply is just epic! That's what you get when you don't mind your business...Lols

if she does not need anybody all about her biz she should quit acting and go to the village. Their life is our business

A40:
To be fair to Gerrard, Liverpool squad that year was rubbish. From goalkeeper to attack. After Owen left they didn't have a half decent striker till Torres came. Gerrard had his phuck ups but that team was usually bang average

Alonso, carragher dudek, risse, finnan,

neezar:
We are in the 3rd year Bro

more time and more respect

so many detectives and barristers here mehn

Eruditor:
Between Aug -Oct 2007, Fabregas had 10 goals in all competitions. He was the EPL player of the month in September (maybe even top scorer can't remember). Scored against United, Liverpool, Tottenham and so on. Arsenal were top of the league as well.

The goals will eventually dry up and so could Hazard's.

His fanboys should sit down and be humble.

humility is key.

why here dull na. Im beginning to appeal to mourinho's tactics. He will come good with time.

neezar:
Pogba don marry

but why d girl dey vex

Eruditor:
Messi was the 2nd best player in the world prior to Pep. That is a feat Hazard is yet to reach 7+ years in time comparison with more playing time, less injuries and more leeway/creative freedom. It is beyond similarities (which are hard to see by the way). One is a generational talent while the other is very good at the moment.

i dont even know the similarities sef.

pkasso:
Ororo is only on Messi's level because of his exceptional and unmatched drive to be the best. Based on talent alone, he is no match for Messi.

Need I remind you, you said Hazard and Messi are equals when it comes to pure talent. ONLY talent. No hard work, no drive and none of those intangibles involved. JUST talent.

bros ronaldo had one of the fastest leg over in epl. so because it seems he is doing things with passion u say he has far less talent. let's just say hazard is far more talented than him self.

abeg make una end this talent talk joor

nihilistjnr:
you're not a very peaceful person, are you?

maybe. but just follow those experiments you bolded, you'll come up with a scientific conclusion

popizaino:
You know the irony of the embolded ?while they played in the same national team and xavi benchin him fabregas still boost of better assists ratio than Xavi.By the way am not starting any argument but just want to state clear that stat doesn't just speak the whole volume in football.you all should slow down on how you rush to stat for defence to berate hazard.

since u are not comparing both we are good

nihilistjnr:
Talent = Ability

If you give someone like Lukaku or Morata 10 years, they will not be able to score those kind of silky goals that we've seen Messi and Hazard score in the past.

Once we establish the baseline talent ability, it's now a case of how frequently the players in this brackets can do this tings.

Then we look at the mitigating factors.

I can bet both my testicles that for all his amazing talent, Messi does not achieve half of everything he's achieved if he played for Chelsea for 6 seasons.

infact, I don't think Messi would get past Hazard level. If he does, it would be a small difference. If you say its a lie, why didnt he do it with Argebtina?

But put Hazard in that Barca team, and I can bet he wins all the competitions that Messi won - and why not? Pedro won most of those trophies too. Hleb won some. Even Bojan playing at Stoke City with Etebo today won 2 UCLs and like 4 league titles.

This is the argument that I made. Theres a level of nuance that you people just don't want to see until we use omorogun to smack it into your collective agbaris

bro talent no be ability. I have the ability to slap but not as efficient as mopol.
saying.
in ratings we call passing dribbling etc abilities.
according to u talent equals ability and u say messi and hazard are on same talent level. meaning they have same abilities.
I don't have time for rubbish this morning. You must be joking. continue with this and u go enter zone of barka tout say this thing. pray u come out alive.
this is sacrilege.

popizaino:
Unfortunately fabregas boost of a world cup final assist which xavi doesn't .talk another thing


For every xavi 10 assists you give me here I will give double which are even more difficult to execute from fabregas .

Are you ready?

as if it was only final dey played in the competition. so u want to start fab and Xavi argument. they both played in same national team xavi benched him. even same club Xavi pursue am. why didn't they consider Mr world cup final assist.
I no dey follow irrelevant and inconsiderate stats wen comparing players. how important were they. life no fair on hazard no mean say he be Messi mate

nihilistjnr:
There's no type of goal that Messi has scored that Hazard cannot score.

Can Hazard dribble 6 players before scoring a golazo? Yes

Can Hazard create chances?
Yes

That's Talent.

How often does Hazard do it though? That's where the issue of application and mentality comes in.

can hazard score the type he scored arsenal by first jogging d ball over d keeper and shooting. or by making arsenal players give him one two passes for him to score.
I can dribble 6 players on a good day but wen I do it like almost everyday we know its in me like peak milk. that's talent. hazard will just run pass a player you go shout. messi go face am use am sweep floor. bro dribble pass dribble.

popizaino:
They all become stats junkies and get unnecessary hard on when argument between hazard and their favourite players surface but use their postulation to ask similar question and they rather clutch at straw or probably go into oblivion.




Now how does xavi compares to fabregas using assists as stats metric for midfielders?
How does scholes fared compared to fabregas using assists too?
How does modric compare to ozil using assists ?
How does Zidane compare to any of xavi and iniesta using assists?

we are taking of important assists. world assist different from nations cup.

keep deceiving yourselves that hazard and Messi are on same talent level. They are no where near. forget achievement self. the kind of goals he scores are wonder. he is not limited by player. he has taken all calibre of players. top defenders and keepers have cried in his hands. a beg leave story

neezar:
Iconic

products of a good managerial system.

neymar o. hazard o. mbappe still be their boss

NOBODYY:
Neymar 419 you had to remove the remaining part of the stolen tweet because it criticized your best left back in the world ba

everybody know say that one na Grand Commander of Plagiarism. Word for word, no editing. nawa o

neezar:
We loose.....Players fault

We win......Mou get all the accolades

Stop this nonsense

you no know say mourinho bring new players from aba enter field for half time?