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Ellexy:
Ruben Amorim on next season:

"W[b]e are NOT ready to play Premier League competitively and be in the UCL, but we need to win and we need to win Europa to give something to our fans.

“Then we will have time to prepare the team to COPE with those two competitions."[/b]

If this is not mind games, then he's mental. He think say na play he come play abi?

CapitalCee:
Chido Obi at 17 is a wonderful prospect, but is not ready yet for EpL games starting. He needs to continue with the youth team and eventually go on a loan to develop more skillsz. but I was told that he is better than Hojlund. As bad as Hojlund is Obi is no where near.

We need at least 5 quality players in a number of positions including the GK. then we will be fine. The academy players should be gradually ease in or loaned out.

Because of one first starts.
You give the senior players games to prove themselves but write of young boys based on one game. Hehehe.

Make nobody call for youths again for this board sha.

eph12:
Whether Bodo or Tottenham o, I don't trust these our players to deliver. I hope they bring the trophy home though

When it comes to this Europa o. I trust them die.

Oasis007:


.....play 'yoot' crooner but have learned one or two lessons too.

This your post sound clownish.
I'm sure we've been winning loads of games with the senior players.

TrebleChamp:
What have the yoot done wrong today that the senior players haven't done all season, some people will just bring fullish agenda to this space. Was it the yoot that put us in 14th place? Amorim should continue to play them in League matches, i want to see Kone in our next game...

Them dey expect the yoots to take them to 4th position.

TheLequte:
Hojuju’s transfer fees also increased after he joined the agency managing Ten Hag.

For someone who isn’t a good scout, United wasted a lot of funds going after players he recommend.

Na there them suppose know say he dey mad and sack him

The symptoms of madness started showing when he was chasing De Jong till the window almost closed.

larride:
Not just Ten Hag, everyone from the recruitment team including the person that approved the 60m and the Accountant that paid. Ogun punish all of them.

I feel Ten Hag needs to take 80 percent of the blame. Na wetyn he want. They gave him.

Bombblacks:
The Manager specifically asked for Mount because he saw him as critical to his set up so what are you saying.

Ten Hag is mad. Those decisions are part of the reasons why he got sacked. Mount who was already on a decline the previous season at Chelsea is who he saw as crucial to his set up. Him dey mad.

andrewbaba44:
After I win am go commot the winning

Maybe San siro na Roma home too when they win there

Off the road abeg

"After I win am go comot the winning"

Even your players no get this confidence.

You go cry big cry. Nor worry.

andrewbaba44:
We go win inter qualify

Balde is okay for me

You no win for your home na for San Siro you won win?

Winners kor, Faith Tabernacle ni

afrodoc:
Collyer has been injured for 2 out of the past 3 months. He definitely would have gotten more minutes cos he is our most athletic midfielder who combines both strength and speed.

Probably

afrodoc:
You send players on loan to grow and get better.

Amad’s loan achieved what it was meant to do. He got regular game time in a less intense environment where he could get better and where his mistakes were not as consequential.

I am not sure how you want to turn Amad’s loan which was one of our most successful loans in probably a couple of decades into a negative thing.

Okay o.

Hmmm

Leyqute:
Of course.

If they show that they can handle it, why not? There are a few examples of youth players that have shown that they can play a part at the time they were handed their debuts- Amad, Garnacho, Mainoo, Greenwood, and so on. Moving on from that to being a solid starter is another thing.

We are in need now more than ever. Obi must play.

afrodoc:
If you don’t know that Sunderland loan is what aided Amad’s growth.

When he was loaned to Scotland I used to tune in to watch Rangers games but he was poor most of the time.
When he went to Sunderland I used to watch their games and for the first few months he was just okay but over time he quietly developed into their best player by the 2nd half of the season.
If he was at United, fans would have already destroyed him and cussed him out in those first few months.

That Sunderland loan was incredibly important and great for Amad. He became visibly stronger and faster during that loan and he made his mistakes away from the spotlight.

Where ETH was foolish was when he refused to play Amad when he returned from that loan. But by that time Amad was 21 not a teenager anymore.

Amad has always played well with us, though not at this current level. He grew.

Trust was lacking.

afrodoc:
Obi deserves more time I agree.

Amass has played in many games this month despite sharing time with any young player in Dorgu who also needs time to develop.

Heaven has been injured.

Who are the academy players that you think are ready who are not getting enough time?

Obi and Collyer deserves more. Although Collyer has more minutes. I don't know if he's injured or something.

larride:
You have to understand that Hojlund is our only striker in the Europa League, the only competition we are putting all our hope and the mofo is misfiring, Amorim wants to keep playing him till he hit at least some form for the Europa League.

I do agree with you though that Obi should be seeing more minutes in the league now that Zirzkee is injured.

Hodjlund hit form? It will take a miracle.

spillo1:
You force your coach to give you consistent game time by performance in games and training. If you are not ready in training no coach will give you game time especially for young players with no experience.

LMFAO. Naso Ten Hag throw Amad go Sunderland because he was not ready.

afrodoc:
I side with you regarding Obi.

What I disagree with is the blanket statement that we don’t give youths a chance or don’t give academy players a chance.

This club historically and in recent times has always given its academy and other young players opportunities.


Specifically with Amorim he went really far with giving academy players opportunities in Sporting Lisbon so I will give him the benefit of the doubt and give some more time on this issue.

If he has not been sacked next season and academy players are still not getting good minutes, then I will blame him.

I do not think he's giving them enough time

delkuf:
what is your criteria for being ready. Tell me us how do a player become ready

Will he be able to tell you?

delkuf:
you are putting yoro into the equation of academy player. Why do man u buy him with such amount

Baba dey muzz me.

Someone that was a regular first team starter in his former team

Leyqute:
Just look at our attack. Inexperience boku everywhere. We’ve been playing yoots and relying on them for years. Playing youths is not an issue, but it’s wrong to keep fielding them when it’s clear that they’re not delivering.

Garnacho and Mainoo have had too many minutes under their belt. That heavy workload is bound to affect their progress somehow. If not, Januzaj would have been a United legend by now. And Garnacho wouldn’t have regressed.

Instead of buying experienced players in their prime, and supplement them with a couple of trailblazing youth players, we buy those who are about to fall off a cliff, pair them with useless senior players, and ping all our hopes on academy newbies to bail us out.

Now I'm not advocating for always using young players.

But when the case arises, you make do with what you have, in our own case, Obi is need. Did you see the graph I uploaded?

Leyqute:
Odizeey, you’re citing Skelly and Nwanneri as perfect examples, but Arsenal don’t rely heavily on them.

Skelly is the only starter of the duo, and that’s because of his talent. Arsenal still have tons of options for that position. And Nwanmeri will always be on the bench if Saka is fit for any EPL or UCL game.

Where is United’s Saka for Garnacho? Where is United’s Saka for Hojlund, Amass and the likes?

We have enough inexperienced players on the pitch already (especially in attack, which is the major reason we’re in a mess). More inexperienced players on the pitch won’t solve our problems— unless they’re extremely talented and it’s clear that they can handle the stress and deliver.

We don't need to rely on ours also. Give them minutes they can build on. Or just leave them in their comfort zone

afrodoc:
We have been talking about and mentioning young and in particular teenage players in the club.

Marc Guiu that you listed come from Chelsea academy ?

abeg! Abeg!! ABEG!!!

I said go back and strategise.

Next question.

baba dey compare person wey them use 58 million to person wey them use 6 million buy. 🤣
Person wey Madrid dey drag

afrodoc:
You want to prove a club is giving teenagers a chance and you went to bring a club giving its teenagers 100-200 minutes in Carabao Cup and Conference League when our own teenagers are clocking 1500-2000 mins in Premier League, Europa League.

Go back and strategise.

Baba this your cap no go pass. Because what people were saying is Amorim not using boys from the academy.
Yoro and Mainoo come from academy this season?

Abeg abeg

spillo1:
If you are talking about academy players debuting this season I am certain we have had more than Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool etc . Apart from Skelly who else debuted for Arsenal?

See. Just go on and read.

spillo1:
He still played majority of the season as a teenager. Your argument was giving teenagers minutes.

That's not my argument. That's why you need to read instead of jumping into arguments like a cave diver

spillo1:
You have nothing to say. They are not getting league games because they are not ready. Simple as abc.

Okay. Thank you sir.

afrodoc:
Firstly, Mainoo played 7 months of this season as a teenager or how old was he from August to March?

Secondly, how many Carabao Cups did we play under Amorim?

Thirdly, all games count but top level games like Champions League, Premier League, Europa League games count more than Carabao Cup and Conference League qualifiers.

Mainoo has been part of the senior team since last season, scoring in the FA cup final. He's left the academy since. He's not particularly of the convo.

Minutes don dey get different name?🤣

spillo1:
A ready player would get league games. Why are they not getting league games?

This monochrome style of argument you want to bring won't work with me. Go meet someone else. I no be that kind of guy.

spillo1:
Maino became 20 this month. How exactly was he not a teenager?

some that has been playing since last two seasons. He's part of our first team players already.

If you don't understand the argument, go back and read.

spillo1:
If they were ready they will be getting league games just like Skelly but they aren't.

If you guys want to start turning amala and hitting on league games, then I'm out. Good luck.