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mbatuku2:
@ogiye

Just wondering how you are very conversant with Igbo words. You seems to know how to manipulate Igbo words and their subsequent meanings, yet you don't speak Ibo.

omonuan:
Every one should leave this Ogiye to propound incoherent theories about what Igbo means and how Ukwuani is not Igbo balderdash. It appears that there is a concerted effort by some misguided Ukwuani elements to dissociate themselves from the Anioma umbrella and the larger Igbo tent. The Anioma people are one and the same-Enuani, Ukwuani and Ika are all siblings.

The reason for the attempt to separate is not far fetched. This vocal minority among the Ukwuani want to carve out their empire so they can become emperors.

Today I saw an advertorial in Vaguard by these myopic fellows referring to Ukwuani as an "ethnic nationality." Then they went on to say that it is the turn of their spurious "Ukwuani ethnic nationality" to produce the governor of Delta state. The conundrum for these people and Ogiye is that Ukwuani has never been and can never be a new "ethnic nationality."

I have said it before and I will say it again-Ukwuani and other Anioma people are as Igbo as any other Igbo clan. Ukwuani need to ask the Ikwerre how their phantom ethnic nationality has fared so that they would see how theirs would end in futility too.

Recently, I heard that Uche Okwukwu an Ikwerre firebrand and a pan Igboist had reminded the Ikwerre that they are Igbo and should be proud. He has been vocal about Ikwere Igbo roots.

Ogiye please find some other things to do. As an Enunai man myself, I would advise you as my brother to sheath your sword.  Ukwuani, Enuani and Ika are Igbo and are recognized as such by Delta state government.

asha 80:
i honestly do not think you know what being igbo means.you and an oguta man can converse easily because the language is the same.an afikpo man cannot i repeat cannot speak 'igbo' with an oguta man because the language of both are mutually unitelligible.

however in your definition both afikpo and oguta is igbo are you are not.

no one is saying you are not ukwuani as no one will say someone is not ngwa,mbaise or nnewi.

abagoro:
My brother you seem to be missing a point.The Igbos in the hinterland never had contacts with the Europeans.How come the Aboh king identified himself as Igbo to them?It was the King of Aboh that actually let out the names of Oru and Igbo to Europeans.You know we claim Nworu and not Nwigbo.

Oru and Igbo are two parts of the same people.The Oru are the riverine while the Igbo are upland.You should ask your father more about it.You know Aboh people are "Ndi Osimili".

ezeagu:
Yes, I think they (Europeans) actually referred to Aboh as 'Eboe Town', and it was the only Igbo place then that had direct access to them. Olaudah Equiano was from Ukwuani and was an 'Igbo nationalist' jusged from the way he spoke about alaigbo in his narrative (he talks about Eboe for about 2/5 of the book).

ezeagu:
Krio, or 'Pidgin English', is an English-based creole, as in it's a creole, not a fully separate language, which means it's not a relevant analogy. . . . . . Plus I was addressing your claim that Ukwuani was Igboid.

ezeagu:
Ukwuani is classed as Igbo, not even Igboid: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=ukw

Chyz*:
I am Ukwuani. Since when did "Igbo" mean slave in Ukwuani?? You better stop reading nonsense on the internet and just go to Ukwuani land and learn. You can say non-Igbos used that word "Igbo" for slave in their language,but definitely not in ukwuani. Ukwuani to begin with, was never ONE clan. It was a fragmented area consisting of individual village groups just like other Igbo areas. Ukwuani is a recent name just like Enuani. "Uku/ukwuani means The foot/lower end of the land, "Enuani" means The top of the land. So if you want to take it down the route you are going then we "ukwuani" are not the same. Even Ndokwa people are trying to make a new clan called "Ndokwa". They can do that because ukwuani is a created name. It is not a real clan. If fact, does every ukwuani speak the same kind of ukwuani? The answer is NO and you should know that is u are ukwuani like u claim.


On another note, I do get where you are coming from with the name argument with Andre. You don't seem to be denying relation with those who call themselves Igbo but you don't want to be called Igbo because of a negative connotation(slave) and you are perfectly fine with just being "Ukwuani". I hope I am getting you right? But overall, you dont need to insult others when you are trying to drill a point. And please dont speak for all of ukwuani when making particular statements.

Abagworo:
Hahahahahaha!Do you know that you and I speak almost the same dialect?I'm from Oguta and we share a lot.Please do not come here to give false information.While "Uku" means great or abundance,"Ukwu" refers to south.

Andre Uweh:
@Ogiye, you are the most confused poster in this thread. You get so much confused each time you type. The problem with you is that you are not knowledgeable enough for this sort of discussion. Ukwuani man speaks Ukwuani just as Nsukka man speaks Nsukka. But Nsukka man will not be insane to claim that what he speaks is not Igbo. This is where you are making a mockery of yourself. Ukwaniman speaks Ukwani accepted, but Ukwani just like Nsukka and other related dialects are called Igbo. No group or dialect is more Igbo than another. It seems you smoke some cheap weed before logging unto nairaland.
Earlier, in your moronic exuberance, you said Igbo people before your eyes are slaves and your ''people'', yet majority of the Ukwuanis are happy being Igbo. Even at that, The Fulani's initially called the Oyos and neighbours Yoruba meaning unbelievers. Today the Oyos and neighbours have metamorphosed to Yoruba from Yoruba. Yet that are not insane to say they are not Yorubas because Fulanis say they are unbelievers.
Boy, am sick and tired of educating you here. What sort of brain do you have?.

ChinenyeN:
I see. You're statement was aimed at a different direction than what I initially interpreted. My mistake then. I understand what you were getting at now, though there are some notions, which you made, that I feel need to be corrected, for the sake of reaching an understanding. Would you mind us delving into that?

ChinenyeN:
It's not about you taking back your words. It's about the two of us reaching an understanding, if possible.

You stated "If Ukwuani people are Igbo then the word "Ukwuani" would not have existed". Now, I don't know if you are aware, but simple, linear conventional thinking shows us that the Igbo say both "ukwu" and "ani" (common knowledge). "Ukwuani" is evidently a contraction of both "ukwu" (whether it be "ukwu" for foot/base or "ukwu" greatness/bountifulness) and "ani" (land), which the Igbo use. So how exactly does your statement make sense? Essentially you're sitting here, saying the exact opposite of what we all know to be true. You're implying that Igbo neither say "ukwu" nor "ani", and likewise could never have a word/contraction such as "Ukwuani".

That's why it doesn't make sense. [b]Unless you would like to elaborate on what exactly it is that you meant. [/b]Otherwise, you are clearly and evidently (redundancy for the sake of effect) lying to yourself.

No,no,no. You are driving to a different direction. I did not disagree that Ukwuani language is similar to Igbo language ok? what I've been saying is----- . Yes, we speak almost the same but not totally the same. It is because our language is not exactly the same with the Igbo language that is why it is called Ukwani. Can a  language that has a name be renamed? if yes. Why? if for whatever reason a language is renamed will you still call the people the former name or the present name? If you call Ukwani people Igbo what will you do with "ukwani"? Friend, we speaks Ukwuani language and so shall we be called,  UKWUANI PEOPLE,  I am not lying to myself or to others, what I am doing is protecting my ID.

Abagworo:
I met an Ukwuani lady the other day and she told me she was Igbo and I asked which part and the response was Ukwuani.I think most of these people posting on NL denying Igbo are ill informed by their parents.The term "Ukwuani",Ukwuali","Ukwuala" and "Ukwuana" all mean "Southland" while "Enuani",Eluali",'Enuana" and "Eluala" all mean "Upland".

ChinenyeN:
Sorry, but this right here makes no sense at all.

Andre Uweh:
I admire your stupidity here as you chat so much crap. Sadass, one would have expected you to come up with something intelligent to counter what I wrote, instead you chose to chat absolute bollock in your less than 10 posts. Where you not the asz-clown asking if any Igbo will accept to be called Ukwani?. Have you not thought how senseless and moronic that question was, babbon shitt. Baboon shitt-eater, you do not deserve any attention, Shitt face.

Andre Uweh:
What an idiotic question you are asking at the bolded. Will I an Isinweke man accept to be called an Nnewiman, Owerriman or Nkwerreman?. Can an Ikaman, Asabaman accept to be called Ukwauaniman?. The aswer is no but collectively they are all called Igbo. I refered you to the great Ukwani politicians who were active in the Igbo union before the war, yet you failed to go and read about it, because you do not want to grow. You are one of those foools brainwashed by your fathers that you are not Igbo. What a shame. Even if you disclaim Igbo, more intelligent posters of Ukwuani origin in this forum have always maintained their Igbo pride for example; Chyz, Oweniwe, Paddy lo etc.

Andre Uweh:
You have not mentioned your reasons for not being Igbo. You are only ranting back and backwards. Only illiterate and daft individuals will assume English and french are same. I gave you an example of Izzi dialect of Igbo spoken in Abakiliki that most Igbo people hardly understand, yet they are proud Igbo people. Even Chinenye earlier wrote in his own Igbo dialect, yet it is Igbo. Why are all this shameless maggots coming here to display stupidity at all time?.  I know you are a toddler, but go and find out why your foremost politicians like Hon Otutu Oputa were very active in the Igbo union affairs in the 50's. Are you more Ukwuani than him. What a shame.

Andre Uweh:
Quit being silly and stop chatting rubbish here. The french and the English are not same nor do they speak the same language.  The war is long over and there is no reason whatsoever for any Ukwuani, Ukwuala man to disclaim Igbo. Ukwuani is a dialect of Igbo language just like Izzi is a dialect of Igbo language. Yet Izzi people are not insane to disclaim Igbo.
Mr attention looker.