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yarimo:
Wow congratulations to president TINUBU in advance as president elect in 2027 general election

Are you waiting for bandits to kidnap and behead you and your family members before you get sense?!

DesireV:
So you typed this much about Qur'an "versions" without bringing examples.

Let's get practical, bring 2 Qur'an qiraat and reference some differences in them.

In Quran 2:58, Hafs says "We give mercy", while warsh says "he gives mercy". Who is really talking there?! Is it your alllla or someone else? Which should we accept between the warsh and Hafs version of Quran 2:58?!

In Quran 2:140, Hafs says "you say", while warsh says "they say". One is second person singular, while the other one is third person plural.
So, who really says?!

DesireV:
the man with a religion that encourages cursing, deceit, and evil.

Welldone doing what you know how to do best

You just perfectly described Islam since Islam represents cursing, deceit and evil

1. Cursing

In Sahih Muslim 2603, your founder cursed a young girl for no reason. Your founder cursed the girl that she wouldn't grow into old age.

Many of your Alfas curse for fun during their sermons!

2. Deceit

In Quran 3:54 and Quran 8:44, your allllah called himself a deceiver.

Also, many of your Islamic clerics liiie to deceive people about Islam. They also lie that Islam is religion of peace. Everyone knows that there is zero peace in Islam.

3. Evill

In Sahih Muslim Hadith 2767, your allllah said he would use a Christian or Jew to replace a Muslim in he'll fir🔥. That's evil!

In Sahih al-Bukhari 2926, your allllah said you should kpai Jews. That's very evil.

Your founder kpaied 700 Jews in one day. He kpaid the husband and father of saffiya and converted her to his wife shortly after? That's very evil!

So, words like Cursing, Deceit and Evil fully describe Islam!

PulaPower:
He has always been a tribal bigot..

Nothing surprising here..

You voted for Tinubu because you are a tribal bigot.

You rejected peter obi because you are a tribal bigot.

The same you is accusing someone else of being a tribal bigot.

How are you better than him?!

OgaTheTop2:
...and some people will still want to vote APC... Omo!

Simplyseyi, may your life represent what Nigeria's security represent under tinubu!

simpleseyi:
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You want to try and convince hatred and bitterness filled losers?

I hope you'll have sense if bandits kidnap and behead your family members too!

Harnny:
It still does not take away the fact that a Christian is arguing on a textual corruption.
When you wrote your comment, did your brain instruct your fingers to type it or did suddenly appear on your screen?
Written text are from someones construct, either from conceptualization or from re-calling known values.

In other words, you agree that your Quran is from someone's conceptualization or from recalling known values?!

Good!

For different Arabic versions of Quran to exist, it means there is no agreement in the conceptualisation or recalling.
Which means there is no assurance that the Quran you have today can be trusted!

Harnny:
Still really weird of you to talk about corruption of text as a Christian.
Goat ate their memories too?
An average muslim can perfectly recite at least half of the Quran from memory.
You really have lost steams from your arguments.

If reciting was enough to compile Quran, caliph uthman wouldn't have called for all written manuscripts of the Quran. He would have simply reproduced it from memory!

The first caliph before him (caliph abubakir) wouldn't have called for the ones written on leaves, stones, etc before writing the Quran. He would have simply reproduced them from memory!

Calling for written copies show that memorized ones are not sufficient!

Since there are many versions of the Arabic Quran, which one was memorized by the memorizers?!

You guys can't fool the world anymore.

Quran is a corrupted book.

The availability of different Arabic versions even showed that the memorized one is faulty. If the memories ones are perfect, then we shouldn't have different Arabic Qurans today!

Kushites:
HOW DOES THE KILLING OF 1,000 PEOPLE JUSTIFY THE KILLING OF 400,000 PEOPLE IN RETALIATION?

UNDER WHAT SPIRITUAL LAW?

OR DON'T YOU BELIEVE IN GOD?

WHO EXACTLY DO YOU WORSHIP?

Why did you first attack them and kpai 1000 people in the first place?

When you were attacking Israel and shouting allahu Akbar, you didn't know there would be consequences of your actions, rights?!

Harnny:
So if there are versions of the Quran, I will stop being a Muslim. Weird that this argument is coming from a Christian. So we have left the reading argument. Keep going about, we will get somewhere eventually.

Who cares wether you leave Islam or not?! I don't care!

But know this: Quran is a highly corrupted book
It is also not perfect. It comprises many Arabic versions with each containing different sentences that have different meanings.

Even Aisha, your founder's viictiim, said a goat ate some of the papers on which the so-called revelations were written!

DesireV:
Lolll.
Same Islam that says there is no compulsion in religion? That says non Muslims won't worship what Muslims worship and vice versa? That to everyone is his or her religion?

Read Quran 9:29 and Quran 9:123.

Quran 9:123 says you Muslims should fight against non-Muslims around you.

Sahih al-Bukhari 2926 says you should kpai Jews.

Sahih al-Bukhari 6922 says you should kpai anyone that leaves Islam.

You obviously know very little about Islam.

You don't know that your founder's so-called revelations are divided into 2: The meccan revelations.and the medinan revelations. The one you mentioned is part of meccan revelations (before he left mecca for medina and still had very few followers) Because his followers were few, your founder was pretending to be peaceful by saying peaceful things, hoping to attract more people!

Whatever your agenda is, there are countless others who have towed the same path in the past, in vain!

Lolz. The world is changing fast, but you don't seem to see it. More people are now aware of what Islam really is! Islam is evvil!

You simply can't blackmail Islam. You can't conquer it either. You either let it be while you practise any other religion of your choice (Islam has no problem with you not being a Muslim), accept it, or ruin yourself (if you falsely attribute things to it).

Islam already blackmailed itself and it's falling apart from within.

Do you know how many Muslims have left the religion and are now seriously exposing Islam?! Yes, they are many! And this is the beginning!

Islam was built on lies and those lies are now haunting the religion

Channel your energy to interrogate your own religion. To learn the Roman cultural and paganism basis of your religion. To learn the political and economic themes of what you call religion. To research about your religion and be liberated.

If you interrogate Islam, you'll see that it is a copy copy reliiligion. Islam was copied by your founder from Christianity, Judaism, sabians and Arab paganism.

Your Hajj and Umrah and tawaf at the Kaaba were all copied from Arab pagans.

5 times daily prayers were copied from the sabians.

Virtually All the human characters in the Quran were copied from the Bible.

Your founder is not noble. He didn't get any revelation from any angel of God. He lied to you!

DesireV:
Your ignorance stinks!

They are Qur'an styles (qiraat and riwayat). Qur'an was revealed in all those styles, 10 of them. No conflict, no contradiction.

If that's the case, it means those who wrote your Quran committed errors because there are many differences among the various Arabic versions of the Quran.

If original revelations of your Quran are full of discrepancies, it means the reliability of the Quran can't be trusted!

You help you understand it, if you want to, it's like language dialects.
See it as Ekiti, Ijebu, Egba, Oyo, Igbomina rendition of same text. When read, it'll sound different to the ears but the meanings same.

If I write a sentence in different dialects, their meanings should be the same. In the case of the different Arabic versions of the Quran, the sentences are very different and have different meanings.

Oga stop lying to defend the Arab pagan idol called alllllla!

It's part of the protection of the Qur'an from corruption. To annoy you more, if all the copies of the Qur'an are burnt, like your likes always do, there are millions of humans across race and tribes, who have committed the blessed book to memory, sentence by sentence, word by word, letter by letter.

This your "protection" excuse is complete nonsense. You say it as if all Arabs are Muslims and Arab speakers can't also corrupt the Quran of they like. Ile kewu level of argument!

Existence of various Arabic versions of the Quran containing different sentences is an evidence that the Arabic Qurans have been corrupted already! So, your alllla's "protection" effort has failed! So your allah is a failure!

There have been attempts by people way smarter than you to corrupt it, by printing copies of edited texts and called it the Qur'an, every single alteration spotted at first glance. We have them kept in libraries to show the coming generations of the futile efforts of the enemies of the truth.

I challenge you to provide me proof that non-Muslims have tried to corrupt Quran. You can only lie to Ile kewu pupils. The world is more advanced than these baseless lies!

Do you know that the Quran you use today is the 1924 edition of the Quran?! Your Quran is heavily edited, modified, corrupted. There is nothing original about Quran.

Caliph uthman collected existing manuscripts to create a new one. That new one is what you are using today. So, your Quran is not original anymore. Why did caliph uthman burned all existing manuscripts?! Because he wanted to cover up the corruption and inconsistencies in the Quran

The Qur'an and the Bible are simply not comparable. How do you compare the Qur'an to a book with numerous versions of differing contents and meanings, a book with verious unknown authors, a book where authors wrote about events that happened after their own deaths

Bible has many versions and Quran has many versions.

Bible versions contain differences and Quran versions contiaon differences.

So, how is your Quran better?!

DesireV:
Is English your mother's tongue?
The more you nurture Islamophobia in your heart, the more stupid you sound

Also, islamophonia is a fake word!

islamophobia is a fake word used by Muslims to stop people from talking about the evvvil in Islam

Phobia means irrational or unreal fear, but the feear of Islam is real.

A look at the contents of Sharia law is enough to expose the evvil in Islam
A look into your hadiths and Quran also showed that Islam is evvvil.

So, the feear of Islam is real and rational.

Therefore, islamophonia is a fake word used by Muslims to stop people from talking about the evvvil in Islam

DesireV:
Is English your mother's tongue?
The more you nurture Islamophobia in your heart, the more stupid you sound

I can worship God in Yoruba too and God will accept my worship. Dem kno borrn you to do your 5 daily solat in your mother tongue.

Your allllla only understands Arabic.

As far as your alllla is concerned,your mother tongue is useless. Your allllla has turned you to a barstarrrd

What a useless allllla

DesireV:
This man and his evil religion. You're wishing fellow humans evil as instructed by your paganism blended religion. Evil biz entity tagged religion

Your founder said my book is a Holy Book
Are you saying your founder doesn't know what he was saying?!

If anyone leaves Islam, Muslims are commanded to kpai him

If a woman is graped and can't prove her case, Muslims are commanded to kpai her

Boko Haram kpaid Christians for allllla

HAMAS kpaid Jews for alllla


The real evvil Religion is Islam

Kemetian:
TINUBU IS 1000 TIMES MORE INTELLIGENT THAN YOUR BREWERY BUILDER WHO WAS ROUNDLY CONDEMNED AS "USELESS" WHEN HE WAS GOVERNOR OF ANAMBRA.

NOBODY CALLED TINUBU USELESS AS LAGOS STATE GOVERNOR.

QUITE THE OPPOSITE.

WHICH IS WHY YOUR BREWERY BUILDER LIVES IN LAGOS TILL TOMORROW.

Are you waiting for you and your family members to be kidnapped beheaded by bandits before you get sense?!

femi4:
An apt response from the president

Yeah, apt gibberish!

Are you waiting for bandits to kidnap you and your family members before you get sense?!

Kemetian:
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH WHAT PRESIDENT TINUBU SAID.

HE WAS CALLING FOR A GREATER MORAL SENSE AMONG NIGERIANS.

THE ANIMAL WAS PUT IN PLACE OF THE HUMAN BEING IS A SIMPLE MESSAGE: WE MUST VALUE HUMAN LIFE.

HIS JOB IS NOT ONLY TO DEPLOY TROOPS AND THE MILITARY TO DANGER ZONES, BUT TO SPEAK AS THE CONSCIENCE OF THE NATION, AND REMIND NIGERIANS OF THE SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE.

ONLY SOMEONE WHO HATES HIM ALREADY WILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT HE SAID.

May your life and those of your family members represent what security is under tinubu.

anonimi:
He is very much in charge and focused on his reelection next year, with 3rd term agenda to be life president, which Obasanjo failed to get in 2007.

Yeah, he is in charge of watching how Nigerians get killed by bandits.

He is also in charge of talking gibberish

It won't matter to yarimo, helinues, Tinubuadvocate, etc untill their family members become victims!

Kushites:
We know you would love Satanyahu to repeat his Gaza genocide in Nigeria.

Why don't you leave Nigeria if you're so desperate to see our children slaughtered in their hundreds of thousands?

You can actually get a visa to Israel, to enjoy their genocide close-up in real time.

Can't you afford the ticket?

Where was your voice when Palestine attacked Israel in 2023?!

Harnny:
Do a little more research and you will realize ikrah means both read and recite. This is why Arabic text as regards to religion are maintained as Arabic to avoid context clipping.

You told me to do research, whereas, your comment shows that you don't do research. If you do research, you won't be a Muslim again!

Do you know that Arabic Quran already exists in different versions and they differ significantly from one another?!

Go online and compare Hafs and warsh and alduri versions of the Arabic Quran. You'll see that you don't have to translate Quran to another language before it can be corrupted. Qur'an is already corrupted!

DesireV:
If the noblest of mankind, Prophet Muhammad, didn't read, were you the one reading from the scriptures to pray and teach people about Islam on his behalf?

There is norting noble about your founder. Tell that ilie only among your fellow curlt members

Incognito403:
Is "halleluyah" your mother tongue?

I don't have to say hallelujah to worship Yahweh. I can simply say praise God and stop there. But you, Muslims, must pray in Arabic, signifying that your alllllah doesn't understand all languages. I pray in my mother tongue and read bible in my mother tongue!

Who's fault is it that your own faith has no universality?

Allah is so limited that He is worshipped in every corner of the world and He will be pained by the arrogance of one miscreant in a corner of Nigeria.

Islam spreads because of the following reasons:

-Increased birth rate
-Forceful conversion
-Lies and deception.

Because an ideology spreads globally doesn't mean the ideology is right.

Crime spreads globally; does that mean crime is right?!

Islam is a fiaike religion. Abraham didn't build Kaaba

DesireV:
Everyone has liberty of religion. You don't have to blackmail other religions to advance yours. Those who sold your religion to you used that tactics and it failed. If others practice "fake" religions, does it affect you?

If you're certain that your religion is the true one, continue with it. Invite others to it with respect and leave them alone if they don't want.

Islam doesn't support liberty of religion. That's why your violent brothers go about forcing Islam on other people!

Read Quran 9:29 and Quran 9:123. Then lie to yourself again that there is liberty of religion in Islam!

It's obvious you know NOTHING about your religion!

DesireV:
If the noblest of mankind, Prophet Muhammad, didn't read, were you the one reading from the scriptures to pray and teach people about Islam on his behalf?

There is norting noble about your fiake founder. Tell that ilie only among your fellow deceeived curlt members

Khastro:
The etiquettes described here are very good. If all Muslims (in this case) and Christians alike can behave as God willed, I do not see 90% of our troubles remaining.

Dress well, wear perfumes, avoid odd gatherings, avoid arrogance and showoff, be kind, remember your family, remember God.

What else? A beautiful earth to live in. We need to do better...

Muslims serve arab pagan idol, not God. Alllllah is not God of Abraham. They lied to you

agurza:
Masha Allah takabbal Minna.

A god that you worship in a language different from your mother tongue is a highly limited god.

Alllllah is a limited god.

You left all the idols in your tribe to go and worship Arab pagan idol!