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Harnny:
Was the same proverb not addressing event at that time applicable to present day event if the scenarios are replicated?
Bro.... I know I am smart. My achievements speaks for themselves and I thank God for grace.
Smart enough to not tarnish someone else's believe simply to validate mine.

You are far from smart! Stop deceiving yourself.

The proverb wasn't calling that woman a dog. It was a mere analogy. That Quran passage is a straightforward commandment, not an analogy. Stop hiding your br@nlesness behind bogus word usage!

That proverb can be used at any point to address different scenarios without any indicating that the subject is a dog!

Quran 19:29 is explicit and straightforward. It says you should fight against non-Muslims just because they choose a different religion.

Stop deceiving yourself!

There is even no ground for comparing the two, just like there is no ground for comparing Islamic terrorism with IPOB or USA/Japan war. Your phony and funny comparisons exposed you as very un-smart!

Stop deceiving yourself.

Harnny:
You obviously could not comprehend my questions. You made bold claims but can not quote me. Now you are hoping to justify you reasoning. I have asked one thing... Quote me where I said... I am quoting you now "You also claimed that IPOB is a Christian terror group".
If you cannot quote me, then you are the liar. Even in my analogy, I never claimed they are a christian terror group.
What do I expect, Mr black Jesus.

When I talked about Islamic terrorism, did you compare it with IPOB and USA/Japan war or not?!

The discussion started with you comparing Paul with your founder. Paul id a far better human being than your founder!

Harnny:
Exactly, and it requires a context. Thats fair, Same with command, law and instructions. Only if you are being truthful.

There is nothing like context in a proverb. A proverb is a proverb, not a personal attack on the subject.

The commands in your Quran are explicit and straightforward. It commands you to fight against non-Muslims just because they choose a different religion.

So, stop hiding behind any context!

AntiChristian:
In all of these you still refuse to condemn Holy Spirit for empowering Samson to kill 30 people and steal their cloth for betting! You can't even deny this truth!

In all of these, you refused to condemn your founder, whose life is worse than that of Samson.

Are you a hypocrite?

The 30 people Samson killed are enemies that have been attacking Israel. The 700 Jews that your founder killed in cold blood, were they attacking him?! No!!!

Your founder is worse than Samson.

So, who should you follow between your founder and Samson?

Harnny:
How do you define double standard.

You can offer explanations to Bible but not for the Quran.

It is common sense that a proverb doesn't directly attack the subjects of the proverb. A proverb is just an analogy.

Oh!.. the verse has to state specifically what it is addressing at that certain time. If that is evident of all texts, why then do you need scholars and pastors to explain or interprete the Biblical contexts?

If you say Quran 9:29 is only useful at that time, then you are saying that some of your Allah's words are now outdated! . Why are you insulting your allllla?!

Qur'an 9:29 told you who to atack, why you should atack them and when you should stop atacking them. The verse is too clear and you can't hide behind any non-existing context!

I study Bible at home by myself and understand it. I don't need a scholar or pastor to tell me the meaning of bible contents.

I am smart enough to understand both. Are you?

The highest level of self deception is when you think you are smart, whereas smartness has nothhing to do with you!

Harnny:
How do you define double standard.

You can offer explanations to Bible but not for the Quran.

It is common sense that a proverb doesn't directly attack the subjects of the proverb. A proverb is just an analogy.

Oh!.. the verse has to state specifically what it is addressing at that certain time. If that is evident of all texts, why then do you need scholars and pastors to explain or interprete the Biblical contexts?

If you say Quran 9:29 is only useful at that time, then you are saying that some of your Allah's words are now outdated! . Why are you insulting your allllla?!

Qur'an 9:29 told you who to atack, why you should atack them and when you should stop atacking them. The verse is too clear and you can't hide behind any non-existing context!

I study Bible at home by myself and understand it. I don't need a scholar or pastor to tell me the meaning of bible contents.

Harnny:
How do you define double standard.

You can offer explanations to Bible but not for the Quran.

It is common sense that a proverb doesn't directly attack the subjects of the proverb. A proverb is just an analogy.

AntiChristian:
This is a lie. Holy Spirit enter Samson many times to kill Philistines. Is that not Holy Spirit supporting terrorism?

Your Keurian approves atacking people that atack you. Does that mean you are agreeing that Keurian supports terrorism?!

If them born you well you can critic the response to the post below:

The laws Samson broke plenty o! In fact the Holy Spirit even helped him in Numbers 1-3!

1. Killing People
Law Broken: The Sixth Commandment — "You shall not murder" (Exodus 20:13).
Context: [/b]While Samson killed many Philistines, some of these acts were in personal vengeance or war, but the law forbids unlawful killing or murder. And he was even empowered by the Holy spirit to commit these acts.

[b]2. Accepting Bets (Gambling)
Law Broken: While the Mosaic Law does not explicitly mention gambling, it generally promotes honesty and condemns greed and exploitation (Leviticus 19:35-36). Accepting bets could be seen as encouraging greed or dishonesty, which would be against the spirit of the law.

3. Stealing Dead People's Clothing
Law Broken: The Eighth Commandment — "You shall not steal" (Exodus 20:15).
Context: Taking clothing from dead bodies of the people Samson killed without permission is theft, which is forbidden.

4. Committing Adultery with a Harlot
Law Broken: The Seventh Commandment — "You shall not commit adultery" (Exodus 20:14).
Context: Samson’s relationships with women outside of marriage, including a harlot, violated this commandment.

5. Other Possible Violations
Breaking Nazarite Vow: Samson was a Nazarite, dedicated to God with specific vows (Numbers 6:1-21), including not cutting his hair, not drinking wine, and avoiding contact with the dead. By touching dead bodies and possibly other actions, he broke these vows.
Intermarriage with Philistines: The Israelites were commanded not to intermarry with surrounding nations (Deuteronomy 7:3-4), which Samson did. Samson was empowered by the Holy Spirit to kill 30 Philistines and steal their cloths to fulfil a bet he had! Was this revenge too? Please cover your head in shame and close your mouth as you read Judges 14:19! Na same Holy Spirit dey inside you now

Yeah, Samson was a human being prone to error. Even though he was used by God, he is still imperfect. He can even misuse God's anointing because he was imperfect.

Even at that, the life of Samson is better than that of your founder who slieppt with a child

Your founder used fiake revelations to support zayd's marriage to Zainab and used another faike revelation to collect and separate them and marry Zainab

So, Samson was a better human being than your founder

Boko Haram has the same Holy Spirit Samson had back then. Muslims don't exhibit such murderous intent!

I challenge you to show me evidence of where Boko Haram said their activities were inspired by the Holy Spirit? You included so many references when referring to Samson, but couldn't give one evidence regarding your claim about Boko Haram

I don't have anything to show a liar. Holy Spirit enter Samson and Samson dey kill everywhere. They support it. Boko Haram kills, they are against it.

I condemn Samson, Holy spirit and Boko haram.

Your Keurian said Samson was a prophet. Are you now condemning your Keurian as a book that supports bad people?!

Your fellow isleamic liars say your founder is Holy Spirit. By condemning Holy Spirit, it means you condemn your founder!

You can't condemn Boko Haram and reman a Muslim because Boko Haram is doing exactly what Keurian preaches.

I condemn Samson, Holy spirit and Boko haram.

Cool. Now, I dare you to condemn your founder for beheading about 700 Jews in one day.

I challenge you to condemn him for robbing quraish caravans.

I challenge you to condemn him for collecting his son in law's wife

I challenge you to condemn him for marrying a child
I challenge you to condemn him for having siegz with a boy.

Of course you can't, because you are a hypocritical liar.

AntiChristian:
This is a lie. Holy Spirit enter Samson many times to kill Philistines. Is that not Holy Spirit supporting terrorism?

Your Keurian approves atacking people that atack you. Does that mean you are agreeing that Keurian supports terrorism?!

If them born you well you can critic the response to the post below:

The laws Samson broke plenty o! In fact the Holy Spirit even helped him in Numbers 1-3!

1. Killing People
Law Broken: The Sixth Commandment — "You shall not murder" (Exodus 20:13).
Context: [/b]While Samson killed many Philistines, some of these acts were in personal vengeance or war, but the law forbids unlawful killing or murder. And he was even empowered by the Holy spirit to commit these acts.

[b]2. Accepting Bets (Gambling)
Law Broken: While the Mosaic Law does not explicitly mention gambling, it generally promotes honesty and condemns greed and exploitation (Leviticus 19:35-36). Accepting bets could be seen as encouraging greed or dishonesty, which would be against the spirit of the law.

3. Stealing Dead People's Clothing
Law Broken: The Eighth Commandment — "You shall not steal" (Exodus 20:15).
Context: Taking clothing from dead bodies of the people Samson killed without permission is theft, which is forbidden.

4. Committing Adultery with a Harlot
Law Broken: The Seventh Commandment — "You shall not commit adultery" (Exodus 20:14).
Context: Samson’s relationships with women outside of marriage, including a harlot, violated this commandment.

5. Other Possible Violations
Breaking Nazarite Vow: Samson was a Nazarite, dedicated to God with specific vows (Numbers 6:1-21), including not cutting his hair, not drinking wine, and avoiding contact with the dead. By touching dead bodies and possibly other actions, he broke these vows.
Intermarriage with Philistines: The Israelites were commanded not to intermarry with surrounding nations (Deuteronomy 7:3-4), which Samson did. Samson was empowered by the Holy Spirit to kill 30 Philistines and steal their cloths to fulfil a bet he had! Was this revenge too? Please cover your head in shame and close your mouth as you read Judges 14:19! Na same Holy Spirit dey inside you now

Yeah, Samson was a human being prone to error. Even though he was used by God, he is still imperfect. He can even misuse God's anointing because he was imperfect.

Even at that, the life of Samson is better than that of your founder who slieppt with a child

Your founder used fiake revelations to support zayd's marriage to Zainab and used another faike revelation to collect and separate them and marry Zainab

So, Samson was a better human being than your founder

Boko Haram has the same Holy Spirit Samson had back then. Muslims don't exhibit such murderous intent!

I challenge you to show me evidence of where Boko Haram said their activities were inspired by the Holy Spirit? You included so many references when referring to Samson, but couldn't give one evidence regarding your claim about Boko Haram

I don't have anything to show a liar. Holy Spirit enter Samson and Samson dey kill everywhere. They support it. Boko Haram kills, they are against it.

I condemn Samson, Holy spirit and Boko haram.

Your Keurian said Samson was a prophet. Are you now condemning your Keurian as a book that supports bad people?!

Your fellow isleamic liars say your founder is Holy Spirit. By condemning Holy Spirit, it means you condemn your founder!

You can't condemn Boko Haram and reman a Muslim because Boko Haram is doing exactly what Keurian preaches.

AntiChristian:
This is a lie. Holy Spirit enter Samson many times to kill Philistines. Is that not Holy Spirit supporting terrorism?

Your Keurian approves atacking people that atack you. Does that mean you are agreeing that Keurian supports terrorism?!

If them born you well you can critic the response to the post below:

The laws Samson broke plenty o! In fact the Holy Spirit even helped him in Numbers 1-3!

1. Killing People
Law Broken: The Sixth Commandment — "You shall not murder" (Exodus 20:13).
Context: [/b]While Samson killed many Philistines, some of these acts were in personal vengeance or war, but the law forbids unlawful killing or murder. And he was even empowered by the Holy spirit to commit these acts.

[b]2. Accepting Bets (Gambling)
Law Broken: While the Mosaic Law does not explicitly mention gambling, it generally promotes honesty and condemns greed and exploitation (Leviticus 19:35-36). Accepting bets could be seen as encouraging greed or dishonesty, which would be against the spirit of the law.

3. Stealing Dead People's Clothing
Law Broken: The Eighth Commandment — "You shall not steal" (Exodus 20:15).
Context: Taking clothing from dead bodies of the people Samson killed without permission is theft, which is forbidden.

4. Committing Adultery with a Harlot
Law Broken: The Seventh Commandment — "You shall not commit adultery" (Exodus 20:14).
Context: Samson’s relationships with women outside of marriage, including a harlot, violated this commandment.

5. Other Possible Violations
Breaking Nazarite Vow: Samson was a Nazarite, dedicated to God with specific vows (Numbers 6:1-21), including not cutting his hair, not drinking wine, and avoiding contact with the dead. By touching dead bodies and possibly other actions, he broke these vows.
Intermarriage with Philistines: The Israelites were commanded not to intermarry with surrounding nations (Deuteronomy 7:3-4), which Samson did. Samson was empowered by the Holy Spirit to kill 30 Philistines and steal their cloths to fulfil a bet he had! Was this revenge too? Please cover your head in shame and close your mouth as you read Judges 14:19! Na same Holy Spirit dey inside you now

Yeah, Samson was a human being prone to error. Even though he was used by God, he is still imperfect. He can even misuse God's anointing because he was imperfect.

Even at that, the life of Samson is better than that of your founder who slieppt with a child

Your founder used fiake revelations to support zayd's marriage to Zainab and used another faike revelation to collect and separate them and marry Zainab

So, Samson was a better human being than your founder

Boko Haram has the same Holy Spirit Samson had back then. Muslims don't exhibit such murderous intent!

I challenge you to show me evidence of where Boko Haram said their activities were inspired by the Holy Spirit? You included so many references when referring to Samson, but couldn't give one evidence regarding your claim about Boko Haram

AntiChristian:
This is a lie. Holy Spirit enter Samson many times to kill Philistines. Is that not Holy Spirit supporting terrorism?

Your Keurian approves atacking people that atack you. Does that mean you are agreeing that Keurian supports terrorism?!

If them born you well you can critic the response to the post below:

The laws Samson broke plenty o! In fact the Holy Spirit even helped him in Numbers 1-3!

1. Killing People
Law Broken: The Sixth Commandment — "You shall not murder" (Exodus 20:13).
Context: [/b]While Samson killed many Philistines, some of these acts were in personal vengeance or war, but the law forbids unlawful killing or murder. And he was even empowered by the Holy spirit to commit these acts.

[b]2. Accepting Bets (Gambling)
Law Broken: While the Mosaic Law does not explicitly mention gambling, it generally promotes honesty and condemns greed and exploitation (Leviticus 19:35-36). Accepting bets could be seen as encouraging greed or dishonesty, which would be against the spirit of the law.

3. Stealing Dead People's Clothing
Law Broken: The Eighth Commandment — "You shall not steal" (Exodus 20:15).
Context: Taking clothing from dead bodies of the people Samson killed without permission is theft, which is forbidden.

4. Committing Adultery with a Harlot
Law Broken: The Seventh Commandment — "You shall not commit adultery" (Exodus 20:14).
Context: Samson’s relationships with women outside of marriage, including a harlot, violated this commandment.

5. Other Possible Violations
Breaking Nazarite Vow: Samson was a Nazarite, dedicated to God with specific vows (Numbers 6:1-21), including not cutting his hair, not drinking wine, and avoiding contact with the dead. By touching dead bodies and possibly other actions, he broke these vows.
Intermarriage with Philistines: The Israelites were commanded not to intermarry with surrounding nations (Deuteronomy 7:3-4), which Samson did. Samson was empowered by the Holy Spirit to kill 30 Philistines and steal their cloths to fulfil a bet he had! Was this revenge too? Please cover your head in shame and close your mouth as you read Judges 14:19! Na same Holy Spirit dey inside you now

Yeah, Samson was a human being prone to error. Even though he was used by God, he is still imperfect. He can even misuse God's anointing because he was imperfect.

Even at that, the life of Samson is better than that of your founder who slieppt with a child

Your founder used fiake revelations to support zayd's marriage to Zainab and used another faike revelation to collect and separate them and marry Zainab

So, Samson was a better human being than your founder

We4all:
This may be off by topic, but let me state that people hardly report sexual abuse within the family. That said, it is very easy to spot a man who is a sexual pervert, but most ladies are too careless to notice, or desperate to care.

If you have a partner that often breathes unusually or heavily, then you may be in trouble because that is one of the behaviours of a sexual pervert.

Additionally, he is either always holding or scratching down there when he thinks no one is watching. This particular behaviour is characteristic of sexual perverts, and women should be very observant.

Also, if your husband is fond of placing little girls on his laps. They could be his kids or that of neighbours. If you notice something like that, just continue to observe him because you may have married a sexual pervert.

Oh! I almost forgot this behaviour...If you have a man that is fond of rubbing your daughter's palm during father-daughter bonding moments, watch out because that is a typical behaviour of a sexual pervert.

Now back to the topic... Fathers bathing their female kids is not a problem. The real problem is whether you are married to a sexual pervert or not because it is only perverts that will find their daughters sexually attractive.

And when will you tell us how to identify a female that is a sexual pervert?

victorazyvictor:
I know ur type. No need wasting my time. No worry until something hits u.

Not going to church will not make anything hit you.

Many of you that go to church do not serve God. You only go to Church for show.

Many of you that attend the so-called powerful churches won't even make it to heaven and you'll be surprised that those who don't attend church will enter heaven!

Harnny:
quote me... please. State where I stated it as a fact and not asked you a question making reference. If you cannot, then it is you who lie.

You used those examples as comparison to Islamic terror activities. If you are not deceptive, you wouldn't have used those as examples or comparison because there is no meeting point between them and Islamic terrorism.

I think you have a problem comprehending what you read. Is there a point where I mentioned that I do not understand the references in the passage? This is proof that I am able to understand both ways but you only choose to lift text out of contexts.

Stop deceiving yourself. Using them in your question to tackle Islamic terrorism is your way of saying those activities are similar to Islamic terrorism.

Now that you have been caught in your own web of lies, you are looking for escape route.

So typical!

Harnny:
Oh! context can exist for Biblical text but not for Quranic text.
Are you saying middle easterners are blacks?
If Jesus was a descendant of Abraham, you mean Abraham, David etc are all black?

If you understand proverbs, you'll know that the wordings in a proverb don't have direct meanings. They are used for mere analogy, but being a Muslim can rob you of such a simple understanding.

Go and read Quran 9:29 by yourself
The verse is EXPLICIT and STRAIGHTFORWARD. You can't hide behind any context in that verse. It specifically told you what to do, who to fight against, why you should fight against them and when you should stop fighting against them.

I know you want to hide behind the "time of war" lie as your context, but that verse didn't say you should fight against them because they are at war with you. It says you should fight against them because they don't accept your alllllah!

No hiding place for Islamic lies anymore!

victorazyvictor:
Oga don't deceive yourself. Going to church is like car going to filling station. Because your pastor is fake doesn't mean all na fake, na u no get spirit of God in you to identify.

There is always a gathering for every kingdom, even in heaven, not in ur palour.

You are the one deceiving yourself. You don't have to attend a physical church to get filled.

Your analogy is even wrong. You need a physical visit to a fueling station to fill your tank because the fuel is physical, but you only need a spiritual visit to God to refuel your spirit man because God is Spirit!

You can refuel at home, on the road, anywhere because God is everywhere! You don't need a physical contact with a church to get filled by His Spirit!

AntiChristian:
I shoud show it to you online as you live your life only online? Guy dey think na! I am using this opportunity to tell you i am against terrorism whether from Boko haram, Israel, USA, Hamas, Samson, Holy Spirit, etc.

If you are against terorism, it means you are against Islam, because Islam is the bedrock of terrorism. .

Aside from being against terorism, you are also against knowledge. That's why you mentioned Samson and Holy spirit in your list. You can't love/have knowledge and be a Muslim, anyways.

Was he deffending his people when he killed 30 people to steal their clothing for his gambling debt? Why do you guys like to tell lies like this?

Yes, it was a revenge against the philistines because they have been attacking Israel before and after Samson was born! You'll keep on exposing your ignioriance if you keep on picking bible verses from the middle.

Boko Haram is an estabished terrorist group! They do not teach Islam but terrorism! They basically do what Samson did whenever Holy spirit enters him.

Boko Haram is an Islamic terorist group. They teach Islam as it is supposed to be taught. Islam is terrorism!

Samson revenged against philistines because of the evil philistines have done against Israel before and after Samson was born. Now, tell me the evil that Boko Haram's victims did to warrant Boko Haram attacks?! Tell me what Boko Haram is revenging against like Samson.

Muslims and false claims!

Yeah, his name was written in the Gospels revealed to Jesus not the Gospels written according to people without surnames!

Now, I challenge you to show me the gospel where his name was written?!

AntiChristian:
Why should I be judging people I don't know?

Oya, show us how you judged the Muslims you know.

Samson in the Bible is no different from boko haram with a touch of holy spirit.

We should go against all of them together!

Samson was fighting to defend his people who were first attacked by the amalekites.

Can you show me who first attacked Boko Haram that they are now defending against?!

Muslims love making bold but false claims

That's how your founder also made false claim that his name is written in the Gospels.

Islam.and falsehood are twins

Lanretoye:
Where is the rare moment where the person recording was right behind him in the same vehicle,if na obidient he Dey abuse like that they would have vandalized his car

Show me where obedients vandalized people's cars for criticizing them.

Or maybe you should shut up

yarimo:
Announcement nairalanders don't click any video nothing like that in the video

APC and Islam can only be promoted through lying.

Is it not strange that your life is surrounded by lying?! Doesn't that speak volume of your kind of person?!

victorazyvictor:
Hebrew 10:25.....

Is like saying: witches not to go meeting. All these children

That verse didn't make it mandatory to attend church. The verse didn't say you won't make heaven if you don't go to a physical church.

If you meet at home with your family members for bible studies and prayers without going to ab established church, you have not rejected gathering of the brethren.

If you join a church online, you haven't forsaken gathering of the brethren.

So, you don't have to be in a physical church building before you can make heaven!

Wake up!

AntiChristian:
We'll praise him for reversion and then judge by what is apparent in his works!

Show me how many Muslims you have judged by what's apparent I'm their works!

Harnny:
Guess who is lying now... go back and check our chat... what I did was ask you questions.

Yes... when I referenced racism tone in Bible, you mentioned a figure of speech right?. did you bother to research the context for those verses.

Yeah, you lied. I asked for examples and you mentioned IPOB and USA, whereas there is no association between USA/IPOB and what Islamic terorists are doing!

If you allow yourself to think, which is difficult in Islam, you'll see clearly that there is nothing like racism in that verse. It's just a figure of speech. But reasoning in Islam is mission impossible

Harnny:
I obviously have been wasting my time. For someone who believes Jesus is a black man, there could be no bigger form of delusion.

You can claim figure of sheep but ignore context. Your religion explanation is valid but mine is not.

This has been a total waste of time.

Yeah, Jesus was black, not white.

I understand that Islam opposes research since research will expose the lies in Islam. But you should try to research what I wrote!

Oga, forget nonexistent context and tell me exactly what's written in Quran 9:29. The words in the verse are very clear. It commands you to fight against non-Muslims just because they are not Muslims and you should only stop fighting against them if they accept your religion or pay you for protection!

Stop hiding behind nonexistent context!

Sonnobax15:

Church na scam abeg,no let anybody deceive you.

Church na scam, yet, your brother was saved from the power of his fetish girlfriend in a church.

Did you think properly before writing this your shiiit ?!

victorazyvictor:
Na lie!
Anybody that avoids church is 1. Stingy or not real, patronise native doctors.

Is she popular than Dr. Paul Enenche or Pa Oyedepo or Apst. Suleiman?

Stop deceiving yourself.

You don't have to attend a physical Church to make heaven or become.a better Christian.