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Harnny:
Oh!... You finally agreed that Christians did killed for the faith.

Stop lying the same way you lied that IPOB and USA kill for Christianity! I didn't agree that Christians killed for the faith. Whoever did such is not a Christian because the Christian faith doesn't agree with such nonsense!

Good. But nothing instructed them to do so in the new testament. Nice.
Do you only follow the new testaments?

Yes, we Christians only follow the new testament regarding laws and ordinances. Anything Jesus abolishes, we abolish it. Jesus abolished being violent against people and that's why a true Christian will never attack people of other religions like your Islam commands you to do!

Well, the New testaments does give the rulers authority to carry out his wrath on those who do not want God to rule over them.

Show me the bible passage that said such a thing.

Maybe you should read up on the Inquisition and where they pulled their justifications from as you know better than those who brought the religions to you.

Show me where they pulled their justification from. I'm waiting!

As you know better than the compilers and keepers of the book you base all your beliefs on.

Christians follow new testament and it never command Christians to be violent against people of other religions the same way your Quran and Hadiths told you to be violent!

Diamond098454:
Ungrateful gender....... Na dem

A man raised money for his wife to travel abroad. When she reached there, she dumped the man and their children in Nigeria

So, we can also call women ungrateful gender

Yet, they want us to believe there is no Christian genocide!

Is someone trying to cover up for Islamic terorists by calling them gunmen?

This was how they tried covering up for Fulani herdsmen during Buhari's time by merely calling them gunmen.

Harnny:
Have people killed in the name of the christian faith or not?

This was the point of the discussion.

Okay.. ignore IPOB and USA. They are christians but did not kill for Christianity. Let us assume every killings by every muslim is for religion and has nothing to do with resistance and political/economic interests.

Lets stay on the the Inquisition and the burning of the "witches"

Have people killed in the name of the christian faith?

This is the ask. It is a simple question.

In other words, you agree that you were shteupeed to use IPOB and USA as examples of killing for Christ.

What were you thinking before when you were using IPOB and USA as your examples?! You thought you could lie for allllla and get away with it?!

Burning of witches or the inquisition wasn't for Christ. Whoever did it did so for themselves because you'll never find such a directive in the new testament!

Harnny:
I will tell you again, I am not here to validate religion. Let us assume no part mentioned this in the Gospel.

The argument is. Have people killed in the name of the christian religion?

Stop deceiving yourself.

You are already validating Islam by trying to shift attention away from it's many bad sides.

The fact that you started mentioning IPOB and USA bombing of Japan to justify violence of Islam is a clear show of validation for Islam.

Stop deceiving yourself.

Harnny:
For someone who has done so many research. You ask me this... weird. You will only come around to say it is not part of the new covenant. Yet, you will lift all arguments from the Quran ignoring the context. I won't go down that rabbit hole with you. This does not absolve those who practiced the faiths, of committing atrocities over time.

Qur'an 9:29 says clearly that you should fight against non-Muslims just because they choose a different religion. Stop hiding behind context to deceive yourself.

The verse stated what you should do and why you should do it. It also stated when and why you should stop fighting against the non-Muslims.

Don't hide behind any context to deceive yourself.

Hadiths say you should kill anyone who changes from Islam. What's your contextual excuse for that?

Hadith also said you should kpai Christians and Jews. What's your contextual excuse for that?!

In case you have not noticed. You have moved from asking if there were any Christians killing in the name of religion... to asking if the scriptures ordered thier actions. I just tought to bring your attention to your "moving the post" actions.

Yes. I asked you the question and you mentioned IPOB and USA.

Show me evidence that IPOB is a Christian terror group fighting for Christianity against Islam!

Show me evidence that USA bombing of Japan is for religion reason!


The above points show that you lacck knowledge of history just like your religion founder!

Godspowerpro:
Amen in Jesus name. Wish you and yours the same

Are you the Jenifer?! Ir should we look for another?!

Harnny:
lol, your final statement destroyed all your argument...
while you can claim, the religion is against it, they perpetrated these evil using the religion as justification.
This is the same on the other side.
Christianity is older and has evolved overtime due to the influence of a lot of nation states.
Islam is much younger and still adjusting to modern state system.

You cannot erase the atrocities committed in the name of both faiths. No matter how much you want to argue the stand of the faiths on these matters.

That you stand here defending their atrocities is enough evidence of the atrocities on its own. You have no business defending any middle eastern belief while claiming your own brother is not coming to a conclusion with his brain.

I like the fact that you have decided to drop your tone down your attempt to trigger a religious comparison. You wont find your mate here.

If you agree that humans have on both side of the religions have killed in the name of their beliefs, then what exactly justifies one against the other?

Show me which part of the Gospel command Christians to commit those atrocities.

I can show you many parts of the Quran and hadiths that command you Muslims to perpetrate your atrocities agaiinst Jeiws and Chriistiians

Harnny:
I have had no religious validation argument with you, my reference to the Bible is for you to look inward when looking for faults in others, you do not throw stones when living in a glass house.

Looking inwards into the bible will expose Islam as a false religion.

Look through our trail, you will not see a single comment from me to your personality, or your ability to comprehend.

What brings personality into this now?!

[quote)Who you are is not a christian. You are far from being a christian just as the Yusuf you made reference might be far from being a Muslim. I do not know him and I do not intend to. However, I have seen you and you are not pleasant.

Your personal opinion about me doesn't mean shiit.

If you Muslims don't want people to scrutinize your religion, you shouldn't have started challenging other people's religions. It's too late to cry now. You Muslims started it and we will give it to you fire for fire!

Note this: most modern western state was established based on biblical law, if they do not say they are christian organizations, it is simply removed from the namings alone.

To show that the Christian laws used in those countries are good laws, many people want to migrate to those countries and become citizens.

Have you asked yourself why no one wants to migrate to Iran, Palestine, Lebanon, or Afghanistan where Islamic laws are used?! That's because Islamic laws are evil!

Most Islamic societies still choose to maintain the Islamic element so they appear more religious but in true sense, there s no difference from a state established based off Biblical law from that based of Quranic laws. Its just semantics.

Stop lying.

Islamic laws differ from Christian laws.

Christian laws permit democracy; Islamic laws don't.

Islamic laws declare death penalty on anyone who leaves Islam, but Christian laws don't have such a thing

According to Islamic law, any girl who get graped can only get justice if she can provide 4 male witnesses of the grape. If she can't, she will be punished for adultery! There is no such law in Christianity

The Spanish inquisitions was state sponsored and the state where mainly controlled by the church.
The persecution of witchcrafts and blasphemy are all well recorded in christian history but will you agree that these best portrays the christian values or just a toll of control and fear during these periods?

the church as a body sponsored slavery and even held slaves using the same bible to justify the enslavement of Africans. Does that portrays the true values of christianity or pure human greeds or interests?

Check the Gospel for the true values of Christianity and also check the Quran and Hadith for the true values of Islam.

Because some church denominations support slavery doesn't mean the entire Christian body does. This is because you'll never find support for slavery in the Gospel. The same can't be said about Hadiiths, in which your founder even owned slaves.

Some ungodly church leaders supported slave trade, but some other church leaders opposed it, like Quakers, Methodists, and Evangelicals, leading to its abolishment.

Do you know that the sub Saharan slave trade by Muslims started long before the transatlantic slave trade? The sub Saharan slave trade by Muslims even lasted beyond the transatlantic slave trade!
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I have not rubbished the Bible, in our conversation. It does have contradiction but that does not make most of its accounts less true.
I have also not attacked any part of your believes.... like I said, to you is your believe and to me is mine.

Since Quran claimed to confirm authenticity of the Bible, are you saying your Quran is confirming a book full of contradictions?! Then shaime on Quran!

However, never downplay the mayhem historically caused by those who identify as Christians compared to those who identify as muslims especially against your own race.

The only difference is that the Christian faith doesn't support those mayhem, while the Muslim faith (Quran and Hadith) strongly support the mayhems!

Support for Tinubu is also tribalistic. Support for kwankwaso is also tribalistic.

Is shehu sanni trying to play a Reno Omokri on us?! Support Tinubu for political appointment?!

Harnny:
Once again, those are your conclusions after all your research, then... good for you

They are not just my conclusions. The are the conclusions of everyone who has a brain and wants to put his brain to good use!

I have maintained that I am not having any religious validation conversation with you, yet you kept bringing this up.

Stop lying. You have been having a religion validation conversation with me. First, you claimed bible is full of contradictions. Secondly, you claimed you'll provide statistics on religion that kill people the most. Thirdly, you accused the crusaders of religion violence.

So, you are already having the religion validation conversation. You are only deceiving yourself that you are not having it.

You obviously have no respect for other peoples position, that sums up the kind of christian that you are.

Lolz. When a Muslim is defeated in an argument, he resorts to gaslighting. Your Islamic socalled scholars have zero respect for other people's religions, but you are not accusing them. Even your allah has no respect for other people's religion. Yusuf adepoju has spent 30 years of his life attacking Christianity UNPROVOKED! So, save me your trashy talk.

Look into the mirror and tell me how much different you are from the Yusuf that got you on this road?

Gaslighter, we Christians will not watch you Muslims attack our faith anymore. If you attack us, we will attack you back. If you rubbish our faith, we will rubbish your Quran, your allah and your religion founder. It's tit for tat now!!!

So, tell me, all the "witches" burnt at the stake, in whose name were they killed?

Lets ignore the inquisition, the LRA, The Balkans.

Also, there is this assumption that when actions are carried out by those recognized by muslims, it is considered driven by religion.

We can consider those actions carried out by IPOBs as religious terrorism.

Show me where IPOB said what they did is for Christianity. I'm waiting

Hamas, Taliban, Hezbollah etc, these are all political entities. They are no different from the US dropping bombs on Japan. The US is predominantly christians. They will pray for a successful mission before jetting out to kill millions, How is that different from someone you consider muslim shouting "Allahu Akbar". Does that make their action right or driven by religion?

Islam is actually a political cult pretending to be a religion. That's why HAMAS, Hezbollah etc look like political movements. Their political movements are all advancing the demonic cause of Islam.

USA bombed Japan in RETALIATION! You seem to lacck knowledge of history like the founder of your religion!

Does that make Christianity responsible for the millions of death in Japan, Vietnam, Honduras, Yugoslavia etc.

Show me where USA said their attacks on Japan, Honduras, Yugoslavia or Vietnam are religion inspired. But the activities of HAMAS, Hezbollah, etc are Islam inspired!

Hezbollah is a Lebanon-based Shia Islamist organization . Stop lying!

Hamas is a Palestinian Sunni Islamist organization . Stop lying!

The Taliban is an ultraconservative Sunni Islamist militant group. Stop lying.

All these moderous groups are Islamic terror groups

A Muslim must always lie and tell half truth to promote Islam since Islam can't be promoted by telling the truth!

Burob:
Cho Cho Agulu wanderer, political impersonator.

The real impersonator is tinubu.

He impersonated the original owner of his name.

He forged certificate. He forged his age. He forged his state of origin

HacheNoire:
Very uninformative banner!

Genocide of who? That should have been inclusive to get the real message across

Seems these MF’s don’t know the meaning of “GENOCIDE”

Who are the targeted race, tribe, religion or ethnic group?

Same Nigerian we all inhabit and know what plays?

The fact that they could not detail the target of the genocide already concludes it’s just the usual propaganda!

Muslims comiting genocide against Christians

Harnny:
If you devout as much energy as you do researching the Quran to the Bible, maybe you will focus less on others belief and more on yours.

Actually before now, I took no interest in Islam untill the likes of Yusuf adepoju took it upon himself to starts attacking Christianity UNPROVOKED! I also learned that Yusuf had been doing the nonsense for 30 years!

So, I too started researching Christianity, Islam and even Judaism. Then I realized that Islam is a false religion pretending to be a abrahamic religion! There is nothing abrahamic about Islam!!!

Try and do research about the reliigion by yourself! However, I doibt if you will ever research about Islam

You have claimed to be a researcher, why not focus on strengthening your belief in the Bible and ensuring it is devoid of any contradiction. Why focus on Islam. This is the problem of many. You really do not worry about Judaism disbelieve or total rejection of Jesus as much as you worry about Islams half belief in your position.

If you research properly from the Bible by yourself instead of living on what you see on TikTok, Facebook, etc, you would have seen all the reasons why the Jews rejected Jesus. And these reasons would have made you believe in Jesus Christ. .

But I know you'll never do any research!

You think saying the core individual conveyor of a belief system was talking to a devil is not an attack?
You think it is reasonable to start with that then have anyone engage you in a reasonable conversation?.
You are obviously rage baiting and I will not stoop low to your level.

If you made such a claim about my belief, I would have gone to find out if it is true or not. I challenge you too to go and find out if what I said about Muhammad is true or not. It is a statement of fact that Muhammad encountered a demon in the cave, not Angel Gabriel!

Research on Islam and stop being an uninformed follower.

For someone who does a lot of research, you definitely did not read about the crusades.

Any sincere student of history will know that The crusades, by The Crusaders was in response to the invasion and murderous activities of Muslims. Meuslims were invading Christian lands through north Africa and Europe, which prompted the establishment of the Crusaders to push back the Muslims!

You can't change history! If you Muslims didn't invade Christian lands, The Crusaders wouldn't have come up!

Again, if you want to discuss the fatalities committed by the followers of each believe systems with verifiable modern historical facts, you are more than welcome. I am not here to discuss the validity of religions.

Again, I challenge you to provide those verifiable modern historical facts that says Christians form groups to attack people for Christ the same way Muslim groups kpai people for Allah!

You do not belief in the validity of my book nor I yours, so what is there to discuss?

But your religion founder copied the contents of my book and lied that he got revelation .

Even your founder said he believed in my book. Your Quran even said gospel is true!

You just prove that you don't know anything about Quran. You don't read Quran by yourself. You just swallow any dawah propaganda you watch on Facebook, etc.


Do personal research, you will not hear

Alllllah is different from YHiWH, yet all the people in your book are people of YHiWH copies from my book.

Harnny:
I repeat, I will never tarnish someone else beliefs.

So, if I say something true about someone, it means I'm tarnishing that person, right?!

To you is your believe and to me is mine.

You just quoted Quran chapters 109:6, which was recorded when Muhammad was looking for more members to join him as Muslims in mecca before he acquired an army.

He later received medinian "revelations" that comanded Muslims to fight against anyone that is not a Muslim! His medinian (violent) "revelations" came after bro has built a army.

Research Islam by yourself and reason things out!

You validate Pauls stand with the Islamic point of view but rubbish everything else, thats your cup of tea.

Paul doesn't need Islam's standard to stand out as a true messenger of Jesus Christ. I only showed you what your own book said about him when you mentioned him. Paul is a million times better than Muhammad in character and reliability!

Like I said, If you want to have a discussion on the amount of deaths and destructions perpetrated by each religion practitioners, I am more than ready to indulge you as that we can discuss with statistics and modern history. I am not ready to make references to a book neither you nor I can bear witness to its source.

Show me where any group of Christians gather to commit murder for Jesus the same way Muslims gather to commit murder for Allah. I challenge you to show me those statistics!

Why don't you want to refer to any book?! Is it because you know that your Quran is full of violent laws agaiinst Jeiws, Christians and other religions?!

It is not the eyes that is blind... but the mind.

Yeah. If the mind is not blind, you will carry out in-depth research about Islam and everything muhamed claimed in your book. For example, Muhammad claimed that Abraham built Kaaba. If the mind is not blind, you'll research to find out if this claim is true or not!

Muhammad also claimed that Jesus didn't die. You'll research if this claim is true if the mind is not blind!!!

So, you shot yourself in the leg!

Islam is so roten that any truth spoken about it is seen as tarnishing or attack!

Harnny:
keep saying that to convince yourself. Each to his own believe. I will not tarnish someone else's believe to win a cheap argument, be it Christian, Jews, Bhuddist or Hindus. The original argument was never about the validity of religion, it was about the attrocities of those who practiced it but since you lost that argument, you chose to move the goals always. No man alive can bear witness to any of these accounts and no African has any business defending any Abrahamic religion as they have been nothing but wicked to us.

Oga, go and do research about Islam and stop referring to valid points as "trying to convince myself".

Qur'an actually called Paul a true messenger. Your lmams and alfas will never tell you this truth and you too will never carry out personal research since you never read Quran by yourself! You only rely on information you get from alfas, imams and those lazy deceptive dawah gandists on TikTok, Facebook, etc!

Go and read about how muhamed received his socalled revelations in Cave Hira and ask yourself very important questions about this thing you call a religion.

Carry out research by yourself and stop following a religion blindly!

Harnny:
O!... I see that you were there right?. If they say it takes one to know one, how come you are able to identify a devil?

The Gospel and Torah have told we Christians how angel Gabriel and other angels deliver messages from YHIWH. Angels always say "Fear not" to people when giving them messages from YHIWH, but the entity Muhammad met wanted to strangle him to death. That's not Angel Gabriel!

Angel Gabriel is never known to deliver messages from YHIWH the same way that entity delivered message to Muhammad.

So, the entity is not Angel Gabriel. It must be a demon!

Harnny:
You dont believe Mohammed, but you believed Paul. Weird.

Even your Quran said Paul is a true messenger of allah in a bid to steal the identity of YHWH's people.

Paul also lived a more trustworthy life than Muhammad!
Paul didn't sleep with his wife's housemaid. Paul didn't collect his adopted son's wife. Paul didn't rob people.

That's by the way.

The entity that appeared to the man who formed your religion in cave Hira was a demon, not angel Gabriel.

Angel Gabriel doesn't strangle people the way the man who formed your religion was almost strangled to death!

MrPresident1:
He made the wrong call. He should have reverted to Islam.

Islam is a religion of lies and deception.

Islam is a copy copy reliiligion. The man who formed your religion lied about getting revelation from Angel Gabriel. No angel Gabriel appeared to him.

Muslims know that their religion is fake and that's why they want to kpai anyone that challenges Islam

abbasajao:
Aṣọ dúdú yí na ni. Bí ẹni òfò ṣé.
Minister for bereavement.

Minister of bereavement like Yemi Osinbajo, right?!

Have you quickly forgotten that Buhari always sent Osinbajo to locations where his Fulani herdsmen brothers wreck havok and caused bereavement?!

And Osinbajo always wore black to these locations!

Just trying to remind you!

BlackfireX:
Sorry my brother Quran didn't say Christ was not crucified


Infact the writers of Quran supported it


I will create a topic on that in few days time.

I just hope they won't ban me or remove it

Qur'an said he didn't die and that someone else died in his place. That's false teaching.

If it's true, it means your allllla deceived people into believing that Jesus died!

BlackfireX:
Infact this should open the eyes of many people to how the brainwashed Muslims sees them.

Alhamudul Yasu Al massih Al Rahmoni that the veil is being destroyed on this platform and In people's life

Islam is a 100% false religion!

Richtaiwo:
LMAO.

Nigerians or those people.

If potable appears anywhere close to that place, the crowd will be more than 10x of those "Nigerians".

Tinubu also doesn't believe in the unity of Nigeria.

02Kebreal:
Muslims believe and follow the teachings of Jesus(PBUH)more than the Christians.

Muslims don't believe in Jesus. How can you believe in someone you don't even know?;

If you know Jesus, you'll know that your Pbuh prayer is meaningless.

If you believe in Jesus, you'll accept him as God and son of God

Stop deceiving yiourselves that you believe in Him.

No, you don't!

02Kebreal:
Muslims believe and follow the teachings of Jesus(PBUH)more than the Christians.

Saying PBUH to Jesus is a sign of ignorance.

Jesus is already in heaven. Saying PBUH is like saying there is not enough peace in heaven and it is now your prayer that will give Jesus peace in heaven!

Your pbuh to Jesus doesn't make sense!

It shows that Islam is built on ignorance!