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Mooh247:
Foolish man

Naira went flat on his watch

300% devaluation

I hope efcc will do the need ful, he is an economic saboteur and in China, he have died 12 times by now.

TenQ:
In the case of Ukraine, Putin is not telling us the whole truth. Russia simply want to annex parts of Ukraine

Have you even heard or read about the euro Asian economic Union? These are former soviet Republics and have their own union, Russia didnot annex them. They are partners in economic issues.

TenQ:
In the case of Ukraine, Putin is not telling us the whole truth. Russia simply want to annex parts of Ukraine

Yes, because they never saw the future, when they were donating territories such as crimea and creating and populating donesk. Can you donate sometjing to your wife and your wife takes it to another man. Crimea was donated to Ukraine.

TenQ:
So, the truth is that Russia does not have any reason to join NATO in the first place. There application could as well be termed "bull shit"

Nato is not united nations ,but just an alliance between countries and they have broken international laws, you must collectively debate issues at the united nations and the united nation decides ,that is meant to be the normal. Not just going to bomb a place because it will favour your own country.

Ttalk:
Where did you see me praise the British in my post? I don't really get your point, that Russia had wanted to complete the project but Britain placed embargo, or forced them to a standstill?

Since when has Russia became so nice that they now takes order from Britain? This your assumptions no gel at all

i think you will get to know things better in the future ,i was also once like you .cheers

TenQ:
Forget about politics
1. Where does the heart of the average Ukrainian fall: with Russia or with NATO/Europe?


WHY?

ordinary citizens want a better life and want to join to eu so that ,they can escape poverty ,But elites in the country know better

TenQ:
So, if Russia is that interste in joining NATO, why are they protesting
1. NATO's expansion to the East
2. Ukraine joining NATO

Was libya in europe?was syria in europe ?how come NATO went to those countries ?North Atlantic Treaty Organization
The North Atlantic Treaty Organization was created in 1949 by the United States, Canada, and several Western European nations to provide collective security against the Soviet Union.

TenQ:
So, if Russia is that interste in joining NATO, why are they protesting
1. NATO's expansion to the East
2. Ukraine joining NATO

what is the NAto alliance for in the first place?it is for world peace,they want to join ,but it is not for world peace ,they started expanding to the east .

Kilometres:
He is using bullion van to bribe France and America govt nah....is that not what ndi mkpumirii flatinnos would say? I dey laff ooo

the world is changing fast and commodity countries are the next big thing

TenQ:
Thanks for the information.

However,
In May 1954 the Western powers rejected the Soviet proposal to join NATO on grounds that the USSR's membership of the organization would be incompatible with its democratic and defensive aims.

1. The soviet Union was Communist Republic at that time
2. NATO felt that the request was a ploy to divide/undermine NATO security.

But here we speak of Russia and NOT the Soviet Union.

In 1997, NATO and Russia agreed to form the NATO-Russia Founding Act, which defined the ways to work together and to cooperate with each other. They also founded the NATO-Russian Discussion Council in 2002.

TenQ:
Thanks for the information.

However,
In May 1954 the Western powers rejected the Soviet proposal to join NATO on grounds that the USSR's membership of the organization would be incompatible with its democratic and defensive aims.

1. The soviet Union was Communist Republic at that time
2. NATO felt that the request was a ploy to divide/undermine NATO security.

But here we speak of Russia and NOT the Soviet Union.

yes russia again tried to join ,so read that also

TenQ:
Russia had good relationship with Ukraine only when the President of Ukraine was a russian puppet.
Immediately the puppet president was removed in 2014, Russia became openly hostile to Ukraine. The truth of the matter is that both Russia and USA want exactly the same thing (CONTROL). USA uses common sense to gain control while Russia think control is only obtained by brute force

The Maidan Revolution was a CIA operation inside of Ukraine ,they dont have democracy as you think in Ukraine ,oppositions are clamped ,killed ,sent to prison ,its a tough environment and not a democratic one ,the way you think.Russia does not need Ukraine, they get free Gas , from Russia and they dont even pay.it is not useful to russia , the donesk luhask area ,as Russian population and its the richest area in Ukraine.They have created their own republic and the rest is useless.

[quote author=Karlovych post=111582947] The country he fled to after he sent soldiers to maim innocent people at the toll gate, shameless


can a civilian order the Army ,this are all lies against him , Nigeria is surrounded by french African countries

MadamVanessa:



Truth be told, Amechi and osibanjo are Buhari choice not that compound old fool drug baron Tinubu.

The uselesssss idiotic old fool , frog eyes, drug baron Pablo Escobar of west should focus on sealing his penis urinary tract, so not to disgrace himself again by peeing in his old wrinkle dilapidated body and leave Nigeria politics alone for young people as posited by my daddy Pete Edochie.

atleast you wont tell us he his not igbo

TenQ:
You seem not to understand that it is about the faulty national foreign policies of Russia.
Russia should make friend and alliance with their neighbours.

You dont make friends with your neighbours by making them weaker than they already are. This the weakness of Russia: a bully

Putin was a KGB agent and understand so many many things ,He his an american specialist and have done this jobs for decades.Th reason why africans were taking as slaves was because we were very friendly and welcomed foreigners a lot .Most countries are hostile to outsiders and will never give you a chance .How come it has close relationships with members of Eurasia expect ukraine, belrusia ,shangia copeation members ,china ,North korea? , Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan

TenQ:
I need a document or validation to your assertion of Russia wanting to be part of NATO. I am not in anyway aware of that

When did the Soviet Union request to join NATO?
March 1954
“Molotov's Proposal that the USSR Join NATO”, March 1954, Wilson Cente

TenQ:
I need a document or validation to your assertion of Russia wanting to be part of NATO. I am not in anyway aware of that

Why did the USSR want to join NATO?
The USSR, fearing the restoration of German militarism in West Germany, had suggested in 1954 that it join NATO, but this was rejected by the US and UK. The Soviet request to join NATO arose in the aftermath of the Berlin Conference of January–February 1954

TenQ:
You might want to educate me with information as per when Russia applied to join NATO sir!
You probably don't understand that the problem of Russia isn't Europe per say but USA.
USA is playing the role Russia should have played in Europe: strength without brains is Russia's problem

yes they asked to joined NATO ,but they said No because their will be no enemies to fight. Dont forget they supported the war on terror after the September 11 attack

TenQ:
And the mumu Russia knowing that refused to form friendly alliance with Europe and all her surrounding neighbours. No one becomes great alone.

The Ukraine that Russia should make an allie at all cost Russia has permanently and irrevocably driven away by mindless brute actions of war.

My Father used to say:
"Wisdom is always greater than Strength"

The soviet union just broke up in 1991 ,so they are just rebuilding their country ,and again , Gaddafi son went closer to the west and also did a phd in United kingdom,they gave up their nuclear power plants and you can see the result when they came for them.You can go close and assume that everything is okay.gadafii lost his life and they almost killed and erased the whole family.

irririchris:
Fun fact: The Ajaokuta Steel Mills was started in 1979. 43 years after, it has not produced one ounce of steel and has had over 1000 past and present employees either collecting salaries or pensions.
Which way Nigeria?

They are all died.

TenQ:
To me, all these are irrelevant to Ukraine. Let Russia face NATO and not the small Ukraine. Isn't Ukraine an independent sovereign nation?
Both USA and Russia are the culprits here and certainly not Ukraine

its sovereign nation that should stay neutral and serve like a buffer zone,and protect its own people,like japan, Finland, south and north korea

TenQ:
It is quite the opposite sir. Russia doesn't want an integration with Europe. That is why they protest the eastward expansion of both EU and NATO. Russia doesn't see itself as being part of Europe.

I expect Russia to have played the role USA is playing in Europe (form economic and military alliance). USA is only capitalising on the failure of "strong man Russia"

So if Russia didnot want to integrate with Europe, why did they build nord stream one, through Ukrainian into Europe, why did they build nord stream 2 through Turkey why did they reject Russian offer to be part of NATO? Why are they having joint venture to space using Russian technology, why do they have cruise ship agreement with Europeans to sail for leisure, the most profitable airline route for airlines is long distant flight, you need to pass Russia to make profit. So why did they allow them to use their airspace to ferry passangers into China, Japan, and the rest.?

TenQ:
In other words, the problem of Russia is not Ukraine but NATO. Did Ukraine sign such agreement with Russia?

Yes Russia is the target, they want pieces it like yugoslavia, and be the only super power, because they are also surrounding China, from Taiwan, from Japan, from India and the Philippines. By going near Russia, the missile can reach mainland Russia of Moscow in 10minutes, with hypersonic missile its 5 minutes.

TenQ:
Some people would rather Ukraine fail miserably in this war. These people don't realise that both USA and Russia want exactly the same thing from Ukraine (CONTROL). I thus find it amusing when people pitch their tent either with Russia or NATO without isolating the pawn (Ukraine) on the board.

To hell with what USA or Russia want with Ukraine. My desire is that Ukraine as an independent sovereign country will survive to reach their God given potential as a nation.

America as benefitted from the war ,they wanted to slow down the Russian economy with sanctions, they did it ,they want to separate Russia from Europe ,they did it, they wanted to sell weapons ,they did it ,all European countries have increased their defence budgets ,all the money goes to America. NATO is like a sales agent for America defence industry.

TenQ:
Some people would rather Ukraine fail miserably in this war. These people don't realise that both USA and Russia want exactly the same thing from Ukraine (CONTROL). I thus find it amusing when people pitch their tent either with Russia or NATO without isolating the pawn (Ukraine) on the board.

To hell with what USA or Russia want with Ukraine. My desire is that Ukraine as an independent sovereign country will survive to reach their God given potential as a nation.

secondly it is the USA that does not want integration of Europe together with Russia, when Europe and Russia integrate together ,they will compete with America interms of economy because ,Russia as natural resources, and Europe will get cheaper resources to power its economy and will compete with even china.The goal of America is to sperate them.

[quote author=TenQ post=111578177]Some people would rather Ukraine fail miserably in this war. These people don't realise that both USA and Russia want exactly the same thing from Ukraine (CONTROL). I thus find it amusing when people pitch their tent either with Russia or NATO without isolating the pawn (Ukraine) on the board.

To hell with what USA or Russia want with Ukraine. My desire is that Ukraine as an independent sovereign country will survive to reach their God given potential as a nation.[/quote

That is wrong ,their was agreement called the minsk agreement ,that Nato will not move to the east of europe,so ask your self why or in whose interest are they moving to the east.

Techguy96:
Watin bring Iranian oil for the matter.

I ask a simple question, since u are at the back holding the negotiation meeting with them.
did Russia cut off the oil supply yesterday?

If you want any product you transfer directly to Russia, no story.

Techguy96:
Watin bring Iranian oil for the matter.

I ask a simple question, since u are at the back holding the negotiation meeting with them.
did Russia cut off the oil supply yesterday?

You really do not understand the meaning of rubles for Gas, it is not demanding for rubles to be paid directly, what Russia means is to be paid in Gazprom bank in Russia, foreign currency goes directly to Russia. Not Gazprom bank in germany or UK. So the money is safe and nt frozen.

Critical sectors?

joyandfaith:
Putin fans are zombies. They are plenty here. The truth is at this moment RA is loosing. Battle of donbass will determine fate of Russia in international politics and power game. Even if RA wins donbass, it will be an expensive victory for Putin.

Lies

Ttalk:
Britain is not interest in helping us fight insurgency, they have not shown concern to our security helplessness, they are not bother whether we all die of hunger, the care less about our epileptic power, what exactly is their purpose for colonising us
They are always interested in our oil and our resources, now it's Ajaokuta steel they want to revamp.

My only warning is for them to learn from Russia who abandoned the company to rot only to be punished by ordinary Ukraine as Ogun the God of Africa is dealing with them for playing a vast one on Nigeria

Russia is the world’s fifth largest steel producer, and has iron and coal deposits in large quantities, steel is used for structural steel, rail for railroads, hardened steel for chains, mining equipment, rolled steel used in factory apparatus, trucks and railroad cars. You always need this to develop a country. But for more than 40 years ours never worked .,it was influenced from the outside to make dependent on cars ,machines etc

time is going you Africans should just wake up,its our time to grow and we can do it ,1billion people make up Africa ,plus the people in the americas,carribean and other blacks in the Arab world,Asia . we can achieve like the Chinese .common language like Swahili and then we move from there .

Ttalk:
Britain is not interest in helping us fight insurgency, they have not shown concern to our security helplessness, they are not bother whether we all die of hunger, the care less about our epileptic power, what exactly is their purpose for colonising us
They are always interested in our oil and our resources, now it's Ajaokuta steel they want to revamp.

My only warning is for them to learn from Russia who abandoned the company to rot only to be punished by ordinary Ukraine as Ogun the God of Africa is dealing with them for playing a vast one on Nigeria

Azovstal is one of the biggest steel rolling companies in Ukraine,it has been captured by Russians,Azovstal iron and steel works include: coke production, sinter plant, blast furnace plant consisting of six blast furnaces, steel-making complex in the converter and open-hearth shop, a mill complex in the plate shop, rail and shops and offices included in a large variety of rail and shops bonds. The plant has a developed transport infrastructure.


Azovstal iron & steel works was operated as a subsidiary of Metinvest B.V. and now it operates as a subsidiary of Metinvest Holding LLC,a subsidiary of Metinvest B.V.