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iLegendd:
Wait o, how will graphic designers survive this AI era? I messaged a printing press for the programme of the burial and he said to type is 15k, to design front and back cover 15k, banner 15k and poster 15k.

I just smiled, typed the program with my phone, pasted it on ChatGPT and told it to design a cover from what I posted and it gave me an amazing cover instantly. I did the same for back cover, banner and poster. It took me less than 5 minutes to save myself from spending 60k.

Why am I sharing this? Take AI seriously and if you're in a field AI has taken over, acquire a trading skill IMMEDIATELY or go into farming.

60k might not be big, but it's good to save money.

E be like say I go enter printing business o and will be making free 15k from AI command that takes 1 minute to type.

By the way, daily hanging fruit has printed and I hope you shorted BTC at 72k.

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Abi o. I can't forget being extorted by a graphic designer. I was told Chat Gtp and some AI tools designated for text to image can do the job perfectly well and save me such exorbitant cost.

No need learning conventional graphic design. ChatGtp and the likes are helping a lot in that field.

seanwilliam:
1. 500k is nothing especially trading USDT , that’s just 350$, please don’t listen to motivational speaker, you’ll just be wasting your time, energy and resources . And it’s not advisable to borrow money except you get guys that can be running instant funding for you till you scale up. Anything crypto no matter how promising don’t borrow money especially money with interest.
2. What I meant crime account is just you having someone to boost your feedbacks, completion rate and bypass security deposit.
3. The update I meant is seeking how traders make additional profits on Bybit aside normal profits , it’s necessary not a scam though but it’s still illegal and your account can go if caught.
Good luck br

Reply: Okay. Understood. Thank you for your honesty. You have saved someone from future suicidal thoughts.

Exactly. As if you know that motivational speakers can deceive one die. They only give theoretical scenarios; not reality. I'm happy a communication platform like Nairaland was set up to receive real-life testimonies, challenges & other updates on just any subject

It makes no sense then cos you will have to pay the agents that will boost your popularity ratings. This type is for sure traders and we don't know who to reach out to for this type of persuasive approach.

You recommended Gate.io. or so. I will research about that.

Thanks 🙏 ♥️

seanwilliam:
Not to discourage you, It’s no longer profitable like it used to be especially if you’re just starting.
For newbie, I recommend GATEDotIO for the following reasons
1. It has the swiftest customer service
2. There’s little to zero scam on the platform.
3. Unlike Bybit, there’s lower trade volumes and not much competitors, which means you can start with small amount and still get trades.
If you have high liquidity, say tens of millions, then it’s worth the shot on Bybit, if you see someone to crime your account for you, you’ll get feedback quick and scale up. Sincerely speaking , you’ll also need seek one or to update to be profitable on Bybit 😂
Lastly, if you don’t have much money, it’s a waste of time ngl.

Reply: Thank you for your prompt reply. Oh no, you are not discouraging me. You know, unlike second to first world, financial scarcity could be tackled with benefits, loans, charity funds as against us that we are on our own and money put in the wrong place and at the wrong time in Nigeria of today, for some, is hard to recover. You may never recover failed investment at all. So, thanks for your honest reply but I still don't understand some sentences you gave.

Here: "If you have high liquidity, say tens of millions, then it’s worth the shot on Bybit, if you see someone to crime your account for you, you’ll get feedback quick and scale up. Sincerely speaking , you’ll also need seek one or to update to be profitable on Bybit "

What do you mean by having tens of millions 😳😮as worth the shot on ByBit 😳😮. Pls let me get something clear: So a starter with less than 500k to sell on ByBit P2P will not have their coins sold there at the right time to gain desired profit?

2. What do you mean by "if you see someone to crime or (did you mean: 'prime') your account for you, you will get feedback and scale up". Pls explain better cos at the end of the day, your sole target is becoming profitable in the business.

3. "Sincerely speaking, you really need to seek one or two updates to be profitable on ByBit"

Which update are you talking about?

I await your clearer answer.

Pls I want a newbie into P2P trading or anyone with first time experience to answer this:

How quickly will a newbie have his/her coins quickly sold and in good profits on P2P exchange platform?

Why I am asking is that YouTube tutorials advise that buyers buy from traders with solid transaction history to avoid being duped and knowing that crypto is highly volatile; if you put a price to sell your coins and you do not get a buyer for a week or more because you are a fresher, what then should you do?

What are the best avenues for freshers to have their coins safely sold and gain considerable profits but I want to know people's experiences/testimonies here during their early days of doing P2P trading.

Thanks

SmallDick99:
Don't buy until Bitcoin gets to 30k- 28k. That's the ultimate recommended price to start buying. Anything else is a wide gamble.

Reply: are you being frank? So I can pass on this suggestion to a fresher who is looking to dive into the crypto world and pls if you have an answer for the profit net of P2P trading for starters. Do tell. Thanks 🙏

SaintUlot:
To all rules, there are exceptions, exceptions doesn't mean it ll always be like that 90% of the time, so if you benefit from the exceptional situations, it doesn't mean, it is always like that 100% all the time. What i am talking about that Nigerians won't tell you how they are making their money with no strings attached, it's a common knowledge, you experience it everyday both offline and online, 90 - 95% of the time, that's how it's always.



So if you come across exceptional situations, once in a while, it doesn't negate that rule.

Reply: I totally agree with you

Pls I want a newbie into P2P trading or anyone with first time experience to answer this:

How quickly will a newbie have his/her coins quickly sold and in good profits on P2P exchange platform?

Why I am asking is that YouTube tutorials advise that buyers buy from traders with solid transaction history to avoid being duped and knowing that crypto is highly volatile; if you put a price to sell your coins and you do not get a buyer for a week or more because you are a fresher, what then should you do?

What are the best avenues for freshers to have their coins safely sold and gain considerable profits but I want to know people's experiences/testimonies here during their early days of doing P2P trading.

Thanks

@Bowwow11.
Don't mind them jare. You are absolutely right about "polices upon polices in Nigeria" that only make life tougher and regretful for the masses. Though the non-physical presence of some full digital banks are risky for our savings but I hope they won't be forced in the future to behave like these traditional banks as it wouldn't be easy to close down all physical branches but to comply to unfavourable future banking policies. Well, the Chinese man is cleverer. They came up with their banking style in Nigeria; they'll know how to boycott their bullshit

@Nuzo 1, you are right. Rumour has it that Nigerian visa cards were released for foreign payments so that we could vote for APC in the next election and once the party wins, the ban will be put back on local debit cards. I don't know.... We know how desperate and dubious our political parties could be when it comes to winning presidential elections. I think to be on the safe side, it's best to also have a foreign fintech debit card for foreign transactions

@FROSTGUY
Realistically, to make 100dollars per month is possible once the underlying factor such as 1, A good Strategy is in place 2, Proper risk management is taken into consideration and 3, Discipline is observed.

Let me break it down as an experience trader, to make $100 per month that is you should be considering making at least $5 per day using a micro lot size account(0.05) for a 10pips trade execution = $25 per week

= $25 x 4 which gives you 100 dollars per month.


So a considerable capital that can sustain such realistic amount should be in the rang of at least $300-$500.This i assure you is possible.

MY REPLY:

JUST GETTING TO READ YOUR RESPONSE SIR. NOTED! BEST REGARDS 🙏👋

@analyscam50. I understand that the crypto space is littered with scammers but I am not one seeking to scam newbies cos I am also a newbie that is looking to learn from scratch but haven't had the time yet. You know degen trading is so risky and one needs proper mentorship. Someone came to ask for such a direction and it's not as if you suggested any one to run to as a scammer detector. Solution is key. Have you checked the YouTube page of the man recommended to me ? Maybe you can tell if he shouldn't be contacted cos I found that he actually exists as both a degen trader and a mentor and I feel his charge is okay. I don't believe in going for expensive courses before you can learn a skill. Not everybody can jump into crypto and volunteer to waste his or her hard earned money over trials and errors knowing you may never recover your lost money through scams/avoidable mistakes. The person needs to learn from a seasoned trader or investor in this hard time. Worse if you were an Arts student back in school. The whole discipline would look like further maths to you. I am in his shoes. YouTube has unstructured course subjects on CRYPTO TRADING and investment that I think should stand as supplementary. I asked around and the WhatsApp number of the man was given to me and I confirmed he exists on YouTube and has a private telegram Community page for his students and truly, I have not used him yet; only to make enquires about what he teaches about degen trading until I am ready and if you go through my comments here, you'll see I keep asking for definition of some terms etc. will a scammer wanting you to believe he/she is guru, come to ask you people to simply crypto concepts and terms? Or never aggressively advertises for payment? No be mumu scammer be that. I want to scam you and I am coming here to ask you to help me with some understanding of comments or articles only. Then my first recommendation is once and not repeatedly. Well, if anybody here or you know someone we can use, pls do share cos I don't want to fall into the hands of a scammer as well and that is why I don't want to spend too much on crypto cos I learnt here that it's like gambling while others say it's rewarding. I feel torn so better for newbies to go for cheap training but then covers what you need to know as a trainee. I appreciate your concerns but we fresh ones looking to join want to learn the essentials first so we don't shed too much tears. 2! This flashed my mind: the person can also learn from Udemy. I think I will look for one there but I don't know if I should look for a Nigerian tutor instead to teach us how to navigate these exchanges in Nigeria rather than by an Indian. I may end up choosing Udemy. Coursera is too academic than practical.

Thanks 🙏

yemmit90:
Judging by your monthly income, you can try to invest $1k and trade only bitcoin to save yourself from this present nonsense manipulated market.

Bitcoin move by at least $2k daily, all you need to do is to buy between 12:30am to 9am Nigeria time or opposite time if it doesn't down between the time I mentioned. Let assume you buy at $110k, and you close it at $112k, your profit on your $1k would be $2000÷110 = 18.1 × 1480 = 26,700.

This can feed and fuel your car daily if you are a single guy. Besides, there are days bitcoin move by 3k or more. This might not be easy or straightforward as I calculated it but you will surely get that profit margin if you play it as I said.

I know people that are doing this 100%, you can try Eth too. These two are the crypto assets I can quarantee can't waste your money withiout recovering back. Stay away from future or any coin aside these two.

In a worse situation like the one we saw two weeks ago, only those invested in Bitcoin at Spot are smiling now, while majority of those doing future trading or alts are still crying from irreversible loss.

Pls where do you see the 18.1*1480? Pls explain further thanks 🙏

SimpleGuy001:
Hello everyone, trust you are well. Please I want to do crypto. I do 9-5 and earn 800k monthly,,, however I need passive income. And I want to do crypto not the normal btc, sol etc those ones will not give me money in terms of increase because I don’t have big money only small part of my pay to spare , looking to do meme coins then build capital and go into normal coins like btc.

I intend to spare a small amount of my pay monthly, please how do I enter meme coins? Where do I get info on what coin to buy generally and all that.

Thank you

I am also in your shoes..but people here are saying it's a bad experience but 4years ago I know friends whose life changed around due to crypto trading and investment.

To learn about meme coin trading cos I hear you can buy as low as $1, contact this man. Check his home profile page for his WhatsApp number or telegram number. He was recommended to me but I still have problems to solve before dedicating to its study and mentorship : https://youtube.com/@cryptoplusairdrops?si=PpRtancnF2uI6K-V. He charges 5000naira-7500 naira. You can try him if you have the amount cos just as it's cheap to buy I hear there are a lot of fake ones out there or those that can clear your wallets so you need a seasoned loyal mentor to guide you always.

Best regards.

Hello Crypto traders & investors.

Pls I want a seasoned trader or investor to answer these questions because one needs to be guided regarding ICOs or pre-listed coins or new meme coins with great potential

What safe range of numerical values in either figures or percentage or ratio where applicable apply to each of these tokenometrics

What is market cap and what should be the safe numerical figure that reflects a crypto's potential for short term or long term gain (pls state the right figure for short or long term) e.g Short term ICO or newly listed coin should be <500k. Any thing above 700k is considered so so so and can lead to so so so

Normalized volume/2hrs volume

Total Supply, maximum supply and circulating supply (their meanings and safe range of figures to show it's safe to buy)

Liquidity locked: why should this be locked before listing and what should be the resulting figure that shows 'trust' and unreliable

Vesting schedule or duration of tokens' held by early investors/team: what should be the minimum and maximum percentage or figures?

What is the maximum allocation for founding team, proof of work and stake, early buyers etc

IF more rewards are allocated to proof of stake or proof of work, will this affect future gains for newer investors/trading after listing ?

What should be network value to transaction ratio?

Price to earnings ratio? Sales to earnings ratio? Stock to flock ratio? And their implications on trading or buying

And other key indeces to know before choosing an ICO or newly launched meme coin to buy..

Thanks 🙏

HeadBoy9:
Anyone know any books/learning resources that'll help one fully understand betting, betting markets, and these betting strategies like value betting, arbitrage betting, matched betting, etc.

Lol. I was once in your shoes. That is why we need Mr Sapeleboy to launch his betting academy. I guess he is still trying to polish his skills on all segments relating to football betting before he considers an educational center. Meanwhile, go to tipster.com or Google each of them, you will find a list of WEBLINKS. Again you can type 'pdf files on matched betting' or "what is the meaning of matched betting and how is it being applied to win a bet?". If you read all these articles and still can't navigate their apps or find some terms still vague, then you can come and drop your questions here and Mr Sapele will simplify all for you. In addition, check previous pages, In his narrative, Mr Sapele ensured to describe these betting types; start from page 1 onwards. And as you learn, first download 1WIN or SPORTYBET or 1XBET etc to familiarize yourself with their betting markets, terms and conditions, pay-outs etc. You can make further enquires from their help desk center. You will first fumble and make some losses; don't panic! If you don't know how you lose a bet, come here with the exhibit or contact their customer care. Then learn from being scammed. For now, join social media pages that offer free codes of high certainty (pls don't pay for them unless it is from a trusted source). Took me months to deserve them but they are not the ones that want to bet aggressively and at a high risk. Observe from their parlays how odds are picked, won or lost, or considered void. That is how you can be making small small money as you learn how to navigate the market until you become an expert then you can move to value, matched etc. start with 50 naira to 1000 naira which I call experiment stage. Pls you need to attempt this stage with a great deal of patience and determination.

Good luck

@Mr Sapele Boy.

Thanks sir. Understood 🙏. Your English is fluent as well. I think your best occupation should be setting up a football betting academy. You are too much ❤️.

@Mr Sapele Boy.

Good day sir. I don't know if you are familiar with handicap displayed this way 0:1, 1:0, 2:0, 0:3 etc. I would like to know how e.g. Away 0:3 handicap (not +3 or -3) is applied to a final score of 8-5 or 0-6. What if the away unexpectedly scored such, how would your bet be determined as a win or lose. You get to find such handicaps on Sportybet. I understand if the score is 2-0 or 2-1 but what if it is 8-5 or 0-6 or 1-5. How is it applied to determine a win or a loss? Thanks 🙏

3.Must home score zero in the 0:3 handicap?

Okay as for 0:3 handicap. What if the score was 9-4 or 0-9 how will 0:3 be applied to determine win or lost bet? Thanks

Mr SapeleBoy911,
In fact, if I could hug you right now, I would have done so. With the way you break down concepts and terms in football betting, one can tell you are proficient in this discipline. I don't know why Betting apps like Sportybet couldn't recruit people like you to answer questions regarding football terminology and its various betting techniques & outcomes, the subject can run one mad but unlike their customer help officers that keep saying "I need a screenshot?" "I don't understand" or they keep re-posting their insufficient replies, you answer with high clarity like an AI ROBOT without even demanding for screenshots. Shame on sportybet help desk officers!! Just textual explanation from you and I understand what you meant😁❤️🤗. If not that you and others here are advising against delving into the soccer betting industry, I would have advised you set up a betting academy and I know your students will perform exceptionally well after your coaching.

I have a mixed feeling now:
In a phone shop, I expressed my fears to a group of football lovers I know who bet like they cannot survive without it, one of them said I shouldn't expect frequent winnings but I can limit my stake to 50k but I won't make much from that amount if I want to one day, by luck, make big profits. One even said he paid his son's term school fees from it by betting on a couple of correct scores and showed me the pay slip and other losses he witnessed. He claims that there is money in this if I am looking for a source that can generative quick money to use by getting my assumptions right relative to the right odds. I.e. Betting can double or triple my profits.
However, even though he has been into this for two years, yet, after we added each other, I found that he cannot explain succinctly and as clearly as Mr Sapeleboy. Perhaps, to encourage me not to quit, he gave me a total of 4 within 3 days. While the first two generated 10k making me feel joyous, exactly what Mr. Tobore raised, the last two predictions/assumptions (all for first half) were wrong and dropped my account currently to 3000. This really bothers me but he said I should not panic; that It is expected so I have to keep being optimistic but really hurts that In the process of trying to build my account so that I can use a big stake to bet, the reverse happens due to inconsistent correct assumptions. So, what I have so far observed is that to grow the betting account this way seems almost impossible even to keep winning continuously as well. Once my account balance rises up, one wrong bet slip, and I lose a huge amount so I think this betting should be done once or twice a month as a beginner or by using a small account balance_I am still looking to find out another money making occupation that is sustainable and less risky to keep doing.

However, pls Mr SAPELE, cos I won't lie to you: I might want to bet during FIFA world cup o. It pained me when I knew the team that would win in previous tournaments but due to ignorance relating to betting, I lost those chances and back then, I had enough money to live by. I will give 3 instances.

The FIFA world cup that showed a surprising performance by Japan and Croatia; in other consecutive legs/matches, I accurately predicted their scores either in first or second half or in over-time and knew when several other country-team matches would end in a penalty while some betters would assume otherwise and lost their bet. In the last World cup Finals I think, seeing the presidents of western countries present in the finals played between France and Croatia, I knew it would be rigged in France's favour and truly, France won. Others cried over their pick on Croatia and the resulting scores at different intervals because they thought Croatia, after performing greatly in previous matches leading them to finals would take the cup home. On the contrary, even though I am not a football lover nor a seasoned better, seeing those Ogas at the top with Macron present at the arena, I watched the referee crookedly looked for ways to demoralize Croatia. Imagine if I knew how to bet that time? How much I would have had as a payout for predicting right based on what odd or bet selection I went for?

2. In the last African Cup of Nations held in Ivory Coast, while most seasoned football analysts, betters and well known Christian prophets whose football prophecies Nigerians emphasize never fails picked Nigeria, I knew that the online trolling towards Ivory Coast team and our over-confidence would cause Croatia to buckle up against our players. I predicted they would win us before the start of the match but I was lambasted. At the end of the day, Nigeria lost the cup to Ivory Coast. I heard someone who predicted this right won 8million naira or so. Imagine if I also understood the terms and conditions behind the kind of selection and stake I settled for for a PAY-OUT, I too would have had some massive gain I never had in my life. Same with this last league (can't remember its name now) held in USA. Majority of Nigerians banked on PSG as the winner, again I followed the psychological behavior model and replied in a forum that Chelsea would win by at least 2goals; that they would ultimately win the finals cos they felt deeply hurt that a glorious club like theirs was now being dragged online so behind the scenes, their superiors would be hard on them. Another indicator, some popular American Hollywood artists, President Donald Trump and a few notable figures were there to watch the match. I texted my friends who are avid football fans and bettors that Chelsea would win in that finals. I was told that was not how soccer tournaments were won; that you follow one statistical table or chart so, to them, the historical record revealed PSG to be a sure bet. At the end of the day, Chelsea won causing PSG players to even go violent towards them during and after the match. Imagine if I too had joined to bet, I would have won something so while I totally understand you and Mr Tobore, I still want to know the basics, criteria and conditions under which payouts are made and stakes are lost including which category of odds per selection. Let me be frank with you two: I will do one or two sure bet during the next world cup so I need to just know what I need to know now and will really appreciate Mr Sapeleboy and any other seasoned better on this forum to help we novices with clarifications of terms and any other issues relating to navigation, account set up, withdrawals etc.
Reading your posts and screenshots, I could try my best not to get addicted and if the bookie bleeps me up regarding payment plan, then I quit. I don't know how people end up getting addicted after losing big within a short interval☹️🤷. I am even glad that Mr Sapele and Mr. Tabore have shown how this occupation can ruin one's life. It really scares the shit out of me but having heard from you all, I have concluded to work on the frequency I bet and amount staked. One may abandon it now and a desperate need for money triggers you to resume in 2 years time just to make one or two sure bets but when you know little or nothing about its workings, you just keep regretting your lack of the knowledge. What about the physical business I did and I lost 3M with only 100 thousand naira as the only profit realized after two years of its start-up?.... Uhm...... Even CAC has flagged the small company as 'unable to declare its revenues for tax reports'. 3M (from joint contribution) gone to the drain and till today, I have not recovered from that misfortune. Shortly after, I partnered with a wholesale poultry egg distributor, I also lost 400k in total. Now, account is on red yet you see people cashing out from betting and just wonder if you are not stupid to join. It's not as if I like football sport.. no! Till today, I don't know nada about other leagues and their clubs. I seldom sit to watch regular matches except major events such as African Nations Cup, European League Tournament, FIFA World Cup amongst several others. Still, I don't watch football channel on these events everyday like an addict to tell you that naa condition led me to this.
Truly I can see that as I make some earnings, within a short time, it goes back to a low account balance : not a reliable source of income but one can be lucky on one sure bet and just use the money to clear some debts. So I don't want to get this post long: Mr Sapele and Mr Tobore, thank you for the alerts. I have seen what you are trying to say about its cruelty but I want to still know what I need to know before FIFA world cup. I am not planning on betting every minute, hour or all year round. I hope you understand the point I am raising? Mr Sapele's narrative and the scams I experienced shortly I joined have helped me to an extent but while I choose to take a break too one day, I just want to know the essentials of football betting (I am at Experimenting stage) cos I may go in and check out of it for a jackpot later in the future. Many thanks to you all 🙏

Didn't even see the first 50 million out! But can I get so stupidly addicted to that level? I thought I could discipline myself to max 50k if I even have that amount one day. This is crazy. I need to rethink about way forward.

@tobore4U, 😳 from 31m!! 😲🫢. I thought I could get emergency funds from it since nothing much is yielding me expected money to cover some necessities. Okay then. I will find something else that is much better.

Thanks!🙏☹️🥴

@MR SAPELE BOY911

Hello sir, trust your week is going on fine? Sir, can you please explain in lay man's English using illustrative examples the meaning of point spread betting/what is also known as Asian Handicap?

Sir, I don't understand the conditions that should be met for favorite vs underdog in a point spread bet or so. For instance, I read that if Favorite is assigned e.g -0.5/_1.5 while underdog is allotted +0.5/+1.5, favorite must score above 0.5 but since there is a minus sign beside 0.5, I thought the format for winning such a bet should be favorite scoring less than 1.5 in point spread betting then state underdog must lose how many points or win outright and yet it is assigned a + sign? This is so confusing. Pls sir I need you to simply this point spread betting using scenarios to determine how this point spread category works in calculating your win or loss

As for banker bet, out of 4 selections, I was sure of two that would win so clicked on 'rebet' then turned on the 'banker bet' icon but rather just allow me choose the matches I would like to re-bet on, a drop down page was generated stating singles, doubles and trebles with an entry box beside each of them to enter the amount I wanted to stake but because I don't know SINGLES, DOUBLES & TREBLES I didn't finally activate the banker bet.

Sir in your narrative about lay bet vs back bet, you told someone that if a back better staked 100 dollars or so and didn't win his/her assumption, the money goes to you but if the back better gets his/her odds football selection right, the winning would be 110 dollars so are you trying to imply that it pays more to engage in back betting than in lay betting?

I will be looking forward to your reply sir.

Kind regards

twosquare:
Gainings against BTC. The numbers are the worth of that currency in BTC.

Thanks for the clarification!

@2square, thanks for the clarification

Made a mistake
In the above image file,
I need a seasoned trader or investor to please interprete the meaning of the circed area in red for Edwin price set at 24hrs.

Thanks

Hi folks
I need a seasoned crypto trader or investor to interprete the meaning of the following for me.

The data circled in red under 24hrs Edwin price 4hrs range'
Thanks!

@MR SAPELEBOY 911
Thank you sir for your narrative and speedy response to our enquires. I cannot thank you enough!! You are amazing! This was what I asked SportyBet HelpDesk Lady (a Camilla) but was just beating around the bush for good 20 minutes leaving me confused. I wish to meet someone like you physically that can take me through the basics and intermediate stage of football betting cos its really limiting my progress and losing money due to ignorance.

Like I once mentioned, I AM NOT A FOOTBALL LOVER NOR A SEASONED BETTER AND MY ENGAGEMENT IN THIS SIDE-HUSTLE HAS BEEN TURBULENT SINCE LAST MONTH. However I took my time to read Mr. Sapele Boy's Betting Journey and Lessons Learned to proceed with much caution. If not for financial problems, what am I doing with this confusing occupation but I see that if luck is on your side, it can really stand as emergency funds. We all know that due to our current economic recession, nobody is ready to assist you financially for a long time. You mentioned to me that Value & Matched Betting are more reliable and profitable but I have no idea how to win in those categories and the capital to even start not to talk of navigating the system like a pro. So I am learning little by little and so far has had a total of 4 losses 3 winnings from predictions I could get but now luck is not on my side but I am betting with a very small amount of money not up to 3000 naira. If I didn't come across MR SAPELE BOY'S STORY HERE, WHALAI, TRIGGERED BY THESE SPORTYBET TIPSTERS, I WOULD HAVE FOOLISHLY KICKED OFF WITH 20K AND END UP IN A HOSPITAL. MANY THANKS SIR FOR YOUR HONEST REPLIES 🙏❤️🙂

Hello Guys,

I need a seasoned better or a sporty bet user to answer this question or if you have sound knowledge of 2UP payout terms and conditions governing multiple bet system or also known as accumulator system.

First I would like to ask if you assign '2UP' OPTION to 'Away' team as well?

2. If you select 9 matches in a multiple bet system/category and 5 of them are programmed '2UP' by you i.e by its meaning, the selected team must lead by 2 goals difference for you to get a pay-out. On the contrary, the remaining 4 matches, you pick under 1.5 or Zero or draw for either four respectively. In short, you didn't choose 2UP for the other four matches (full time, no overtime nor penalty)
Let's say you won all the 2UP matches (full time, no over-time/penalty) but failed the picks or guesses for the other non-2UP matches in that multiple bet system, will you still get paid that way for the all the 2UP matches you guessed right only or will still lose all your stake?

I will post a screenshot for better understanding but assume all 2UP matches were guessed correctly but the non-2UP selections eventually turned out wrong.

Thanks

Dear Nairalanders,
This story is for newbies who just joined the betting industry propelled by huge payouts they see being posted online and with zero knowledge of the fundamentals.

I just joined the betting industry and here is a brief of my experience so far.

I want to draw your attention to a group of fraudsters who claim to offer sure bet codes at an affordable price.

I have posted my story on other related threads as well. Pls take note. You can even confirm yourself by adding them up as if you wanna buy their codes.

But let me summarize
-joined betting industry four weeks ago due to financial hardship

- after getting an initial paid betting code from a tipster who promised heaven & earth but was a sham (I lost my staked bet), another one I randomly contacted sent a free one that enabled me gain my first staked bet and some 200 naira gain back but not the 1000 naira I paid for codes.

-this new one told me I didn't stake high that was why my reward was very low but however suggested I pay 15k for a code capable of ×5 win-back.
- felt this is risky and too high to lose incase it also didn't turn out well

- another one had already sent a message. Offered fixed match odds for 5k. *Pay quickly before the matches end*.

- after much contemplation, I decided to buy the code before 3pm but he was not reading messages

-replied around 9pm, sending account details. Not his account but someone else he claims he trusts cos his had issues (see attachment below)

- he was eager to receive the deposit_ according to him_ so that he can quickly send the code meant for evening live until the last is played.
- Had to use someone that uses a fintech banking app.
-later told me that it was no longer 3k but 5k as the discount was for afternoon match odds but now, I just have to pay 5k because he'd need to pay the agent he too got the code from
- Due to that new charge, I asked the person to send additional 2k
- thereafter called to ask when I opened an account with my betting app and since it was not quite long, I was eligible for a football adder package.
- Told me I could choose to select the category of 6k to get 400k instantly in my betting balance account. According to him, the adder is available on football.com

-To further convince me, sent the video wherein in 2024 another tipster like him asked a client to trust him to help him use 6k to get 400k getaway gift by sending a link and for the client to follow all instructions up to the client receiving the 1million naira on his betting account and deducted 30% for the marketer/tipster he was doing that particular business with in that video.

-feeling duped. I was angry that Mr David was just jumping from one offer to the other.

-tried to persuade me; saying he would have paid for me but his bank account had issues.

-But after I told him my USSD bank code only transfers to Opay & Palmpay and not to Moniepoint (which is true), he suddenly had an Opay account to provide.

- after much back and forth, saying I should trust him...and truly if you are on his business account, he even posted a scammer package and loves to posts religious quotes for newcomers ASPIRING to make it big from betting. This i now see was a facade.

- insisted I wanted to start off with the purchased code. He later said betting is a 50:50 chance but adder package can give me the high reward I really wanted including a strong account balance to use for higher stakes.

- insisted I had no money to spare and showed him a screenshot of the free one that actually returned the money I used in betting from the 1k ticket I first bought but failed. With an unsteady voice, he said "there is a refund for any loss or may give me extra code if his fails'

- didn't state such condition from the onset. Only said his fixed matched odds have been correct so far. In fact he didn't mention he was getting it from another agent

- told him matter-of-factly that I wanted the code I bought

-said I have to wait for the agent he uses to generate it with no specific time given
-after waiting for long _cos I paid for evening schedule that he hastened me to buy before it expired; I contacted him again asking when exactly I would receive it or what kind of services is he even offering cos I thought codes were sent instantly but either he blocked me or he went offline.

-then subsequent individuals from the same WhatsApp business page began to contact me if I needed sure soccer bet but told them I would expose them for other Nigerians to take note of.

Here is a screenshot of their profile page and the Moniepoint account he asked me to send the 5k to.
Beware!!

I want to draw your attention to a group of fraudsters who claim to offer sure bet codes at an affordable price.

I have posted my story on another platform. Pls take note newbies. Here is the link.

But let me summarize
-joined betting industry four weeks ago due to financial hardship

- after getting an initial paid betting code from a tipster who promised heaven & earth but was a sham (I lost my staked bet), another one I randomly contacted sent a free one that enabled me gain my first staked bet and some 200 naira gain back but not the 1000 naira I paid for codes.

-this new one told me I didn't stake high that was why my reward was very low but however suggested I pay 15k for a code capable of ×5 win-back.
- felt this is risky and too high to lose incase it also didn't turn out well

- another one had already sent a message. Offered fixed match odds for 5k. *Pay quickly before the matches ends*.

- after much contemplation, I decided to buy the code before 3pm but he was not reading messages

-replied around 9pm, sending account details. Not his account but someone else he claims he trusts cos his has issues.

- he was eager to receive the deposit and to quickly send the codes meant for evening live until the last is played.
- Had to use someone that uses a fintech banking app.
-later told me that it was no longer 3k but 5k as the discount was for afternoon match odds but now, I just have to pay 5k because he'd need to pay the agent he too got the codes from
-asked the person to send additional 2k
- thereafter called to ask when I opened an account with my betting app and since it was not quite long, I was eligible for a football adder package.
- I can choose to select the category of 6k to get 400k instantly in my betting balance account. According to him, the adder is available on football.com

- sent the video wherein in 2024 another tipster like him asked a client trust him to help him use 6k to get 400k by sending a link and the client following all instructions up to the client receives the 1m he bought instantly on his betting account balance then claimed to have deducted 30% for the marketer.

-feeling duped. Angry he was just jumping from one offer to the other.

-tried to persuade me; saying he would have paid for me but his bank account had issues.

-But after I told him my USSD bank code allows Opay and palmpay (which is true), he had an Opay account to provide.

- after much back and forth, saying I should trust him...and truly if you are on his business account, he even posted a scammer package and loves to posts religious quotes for newcomers ASPIRING to make it big from betting

- insisted I wanted to start off with the purchased code. He later said betting is a 50:50 chance but adder package can give me the high reward I really wanted and a strong account balance to use for higher stakes.

- insisted I had no money to spare and showed him a screenshot of the free one that actually returned the money I used in betting using the 1k ticket bought and said "there is a refund for any loss or may give me extra code if it fails'

- didn't state such condition from the onset. Only said his fixed matched odds have been correct so far. In fact he didn't mention he was getting it from another agent

- told him matter-of-factly that I wanted the code I bought

-said I have to wait for the agent he uses to generate it with no specific time given
-after waiting for long _cos I paid for evening schedule that he hastened me to buy before it expires; I contacted him again asking when exactly will it be sent or what kind of services is he even offering cos I thought codes were sent instantly but either he blocked me or he went offline.

-then subsequent individuals from the market began to contact me if I needed sure soccer bet but told them I would expose them for other Nigerians to take note of.

Here is a screenshot of their profile pages and the 'Mr David'

Be Cautious Newbies!
.

I want to draw your attention to a group of fraudsters who claim to offer sure bet codes at an affordable price.

I have posted my story on another platform. Pls take note newbies. Here is the link.

But let me summarize
-joined betting industry four weeks ago due to financial hardship

- after getting an initial paid betting code from a tipster who promised heaven & earth but was a sham (I lost my staked bet), another one I randomly contacted sent a free one that enabled me gain my first staked bet and some 200 naira gain back but not the 1000 naira I paid for codes.

-this new one told me I didn't stake high that was why my reward was very low but however suggested I pay 15k for a code capable of ×5 win-back.
- felt this is risky and too high to lose incase it also didn't turn out well

- another one had already sent a message. Offered fixed match odds for 5k. *Pay quickly before the matches ends*.

- after much contemplation, I decided to buy the code before 3pm but he was not reading messages

-replied around 9pm, sending account details. Not his account but someone else he claims he trusts cos his has issues.

- he was eager to receive the deposit and to quickly send the codes meant for evening live until the last is played.
- Had to use someone that uses a fintech banking app.
-later told me that it was no longer 3k but 5k as the discount was for afternoon match odds but now, I just have to pay 5k because he'd need to pay the agent he too got the codes from
-asked the person to send additional 2k
- thereafter called to ask when I opened an account with my betting app and since it was not quite long, I was eligible for a football adder package.
- I can choose to select the category of 6k to get 400k instantly in my betting balance account. According to him, the adder is available on football.com

- sent the video wherein in 2024 another tipster like him asked a client trust him to help him use 6k to get 400k by sending a link and the client following all instructions up to the client receives the 1m he bought instantly on his betting account balance then claimed to have deducted 30% for the marketer.

-feeling duped. Angry he was just jumping from one offer to the other.

-tried to persuade me; saying he would have paid for me but his bank account had issues.

-But after I told him my USSD bank code allows Opay and palmpay (which is true), he had an Opay account to provide.

- after much back and forth, saying I should trust him...and truly if you are on his business account, he even posted a scammer package and loves to posts religious quotes for newcomers ASPIRING to make it big from betting

- insisted I wanted to start off with the purchased code. He later said betting is a 50:50 chance but adder package can give me the high reward I really wanted and a strong account balance to use for higher stakes.

- insisted I had no money to spare and showed him a screenshot of the free one that actually returned the money I used in betting using the 1k ticket bought and said "there is a refund for any loss or may give me extra code if it fails'

- didn't state such condition from the onset. Only said his fixed matched odds have been correct so far. In fact he didn't mention he was getting it from another agent

- told him matter-of-factly that I wanted the code I bought

-said I have to wait for the agent he uses to generate it with no specific time given
-after waiting for long _cos I paid for evening schedule that he hastened me to buy before it expires; I contacted him again asking when exactly will it be sent or what kind of services is he even offering cos I thought codes were sent instantly but either he blocked me or he went offline.

-then subsequent individuals from the market began to contact me if I needed sure soccer bet but told them I would expose them for other Nigerians to take note of.

Here is a screenshot of their profile pages and the 'Mr David' I chatted with over his 5k package.


. Be cautious newbies!