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Sports › Re: Josep Gené Garcia Withdraws From Proposed Wikki Tourists Deal by Ombre(m): 3:11pm On Oct 28
Werey corrupt officials must have moved on to other opportunities as baba refused to lobby and give them kickbacks or whatever corrupt venture they had proposed.

I hope I am wrong and put to shame.

Careful4u:
This could really help discover talent, but clueless criminals have frustrated this effort. Perhaps the man refused to lobby them. grin grin grin
Sports › Re: Josep Gené Garcia Withdraws From Proposed Wikki Tourists Deal by Ombre(m): 3:10pm On Oct 28
Werey corrupt officials must have moved on to other opportunities as baba refused to lobby and give them kickbacks or whatever corrupt venture they had proposed.

I hope I am wrong and put to shame.
Celebrities › Re: Tobey Maguire Officiates Ex-wife’s Wedding To Nigerian Billionaire's Son by Ombre(m): 2:19pm On Oct 12
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What shall we call this, brethren?
Politics › Re: Please Apologise To The President, Stop Calling Him Bola - Reno Appeals To Atiku by Ombre(m): 9:55pm On Oct 09
Interesting

Not enough original content
Travel › Re: NAF Aircraft Developed Engine Fault Day Before Crash, Grounded - SaharaReporters by Ombre(m): 7:24pm On Oct 08
We would not have entered into the long exchange if this was your initial position.

Always mean what you say, and say what you mean.

Do not come to conclusions when you do not have all the facts, rather, make valid assumptions - and let them be what they are, assumptions. Not facts.

Cheers man.

Mattswaggz:
I can't be certain for sure about what transpired but it's most likely the technicians did a bad job then for it to crash minutes after take off.....or maybe a hurried job.
Travel › Re: NAF Aircraft Developed Engine Fault Day Before Crash, Grounded - SaharaReporters by Ombre(m): 1:01pm On Oct 08
Expert, sir. Good afternoon.

Selective reading or understanding or just deliberate attempt, only you can tell.

Your hallowed report says the aircraft had a snag, was grounded, worked on and cleared to go.

As such, what was the current situation? Are you saying the aircraft was not fixed yet cleared to fly? Does your SR report say so?

I ask again, how did you determine the aircraft was overloaded in 'this current condition'?

We are not under a thread that conclusively says the aircraft was in bad condition on the day or for the flight.

It says the aircraft developed a 'fault' the day before, and was worked on and declared fixed by certified technicians.

Selective much.

Quick one:

You are travelling from Lagos to Benin, on the way, your car broke down at Ore and a specialized mechanic for your car type fixed it there and you leave for Benin. What is the 'present condition' of your car?


Mattswaggz:
Lol.....You're literally under a thread talking about how the plane wasn't in good condition and you're asking me what I mean by in it's present condition abi.....keep waiting for my answer okay. grin.
Travel › Re: NAF Aircraft Developed Engine Fault Day Before Crash, Grounded - SaharaReporters by Ombre(m): 11:28am On Oct 08
Aside confidently peddling wrong info, you can't spot good ol'sarcasm, yeah?

SR, commenters to this point and yourself will ideally beg me for legit info on this subject, never the other way around.

So, Mr FSB, wake up!

FSBoperator:
Hope you have learnt now not to trust every rumour coming out of Sahara reporters and the obidient mob.
Travel › Re: NAF Aircraft Developed Engine Fault Day Before Crash, Grounded - SaharaReporters by Ombre(m): 10:31am On Oct 08
Yes sir FSB sir.

You are very correct sir.

Forgive me sir.

🤭🤭

FSBoperator:
On February 21, 2021, a Beechcraft King Air B350i aircraft crashed short of the runway at Nnamdi Azikiwe International Airport, Abuja, shortly after takeoff. The aircraft had reported an engine failure while en route to Minna, Niger State, for a reconnaissance mission. All seven military personnel on board were killed in the incident.

No other fatal crashes involving NAF aircraft taking off from Abuja Airport are recorded in the provided context for the period between 1980 and October 2026. Other major incidents in Abuja included a 2018 collision of two F-7NI fighter jets during Independence celebrations and a 2021 Alpha Jet disappearance during an operational mission, but these did not involve takeoff crashes from the civilian airport.

The Beechcraft King Air B350i (registration NAF 201) that crashed in February 2021 was configured as an ISTAR (Intelligence, Surveillance, Target Acquisition, and Reconnaissance) platform. Here are the key details of its role:


Operational Role

The aircraft was painted in a VIP colour scheme but served a dual purpose: light transport and ISR missions.

It was operated by the 209th Executive Airlift Group (EAG), based at Nnamdi Azikiwe International Airport, Abuja.

The NAF fleet of four King Air 350i aircraft (delivered August 2014, with one transferred from the presidential air fleet in 2015) collectively handled transport, intelligence, reconnaissance, and surveillance across the country.
Sensors & Mission Equipment


The crew included dedicated Airborne Tactical Observation System (ATOS) specialists — three of the seven killed were ATOS operators.

As an ISTAR variant, the aircraft would have been fitted with electro-optical/infrared (EO/IR) sensors and likely synthetic aperture radar (SAR) for all-weather surveillance.
The Specific Mission

On the day of the crash, NAF 201 was en route to Minna, Niger State, to conduct surveillance over Niger State and its environs in connection with efforts to secure the release of students and staff abducted from the Government Science College, Kagara — a high-profile kidnapping that had occurred just days earlier. The aircraft reported engine failure ~6 minutes after takeoff and crash-landed short of Runway 22 at Abuja.

Replacement

Following this crash (and a second King Air B350i loss in Kaduna in May 2021 that killed 11, including the Chief of Army Staff), the NAF acquired two Beechcraft King Air 360ER aircraft (delivered 2023–2024) as attrition replacements, to be converted into dedicated ISR platforms with radar, EO/IR sensors, and defensive aids.


So this particular aircraft that crashed in Ondo was not part of the Nigerian Air Force recon and surveillance fleet.

So rest.
Travel › Re: NAF Aircraft Developed Engine Fault Day Before Crash, Grounded - SaharaReporters by Ombre(m): 10:28am On Oct 08
Lmfao

Those other guys are even better than you.

At least, they have the basic information right.

You just face bush with your own.

I picked interest in you due to the FSB in your name, thinking you have access to valuable info or insights.

I know better now.

Continue to wallow in your mirage.

FSBoperator:
Here is the image of the crashed recon aircraft operated by the Nigerian Air Force.

All remaining three were of this manufacture and spec

The aircraft that crashed in Ondo is a dedicated transport aircraft operated by the Nigerian Airfiorce.


So Oga rest.
Travel › Re: NAF Aircraft Developed Engine Fault Day Before Crash, Grounded - SaharaReporters by Ombre(m): 10:14am On Oct 08
Lol. Typical.

Now we are talking, as I forced a number out of you.

42 it is. ATR 42. Some versions of the -500 can get you 48 seats, depending on the configuration.

I don't know where the thought of 500 creeped in. 50? On the 42-500? Contestable based on factors/variants.

Now, you have distanced yourself from your initial stance, pushing it on 'the report'. Which of the reports? Maybe I need to go through a third time to catch how I missed that 'material fact' from Sahara Reporters, the aviation expert.

Lastly, what do you mean 'in its present condition', please?

Mattswaggz:
I understand where you're coming from but the max is 50 not 500 and the report suggested that it was overloaded especially in it's present condition.
Travel › Re: NAF Aircraft Developed Engine Fault Day Before Crash, Grounded - SaharaReporters by Ombre(m): 10:00am On Oct 08
If only you who is wasting his time, outside of his grief, trying to school you.

I am not arguing with you, sir/ma.

A simple google search tells you the carrying capacity of the ATR 42-500, which is even embedded in its name. However, it is not that complete because few seats were knocked off to accommodate the machine and operator seats.

Initial reports of 32, NAF reports 25 on her manifest, whichever you choose to believe, good sir, expertly tell me how you judged it overloaded.

You have failed to explain that your expert fact, many exchanges after.

Mattswaggz:
see the person I am arguing with....even the initial information posted here said it had 32 people on board and you're here lying shamelessly.
Travel › Re: NAF Aircraft Developed Engine Fault Day Before Crash, Grounded - SaharaReporters by Ombre(m): 9:49am On Oct 08
Now this is a sensible person asking the right questions.

Not some others running around the place based on sensationalism.

You have a point, sir/ma. However, also consider the part of that response that stated, it depends on the type of maintenance carried out, that may require am FCF. We can only make assumptions as is, but valid assumptions.

Incidents like this should not be sensationalized, politicised or tribalised. Look at the logical aspects, not shouting about with information you dont know of like those saying it was overloaded or that it was strictly an ISR aircraft. You are in the right direction.

Cheers.

descartes400:
If an aircraft developed an engine problem that resulted to it being grounded, after its repair, is it not suppose to carried a flight-test before eventually being used to convey passangers



This is from google after in puting the above question : Yes, in many cases, a maintenance test flight (also called a test flight or functional check flight) is required before an aircraft can return to passenger service after an engine grounding.

The technicians and the higher ups should be held responsive the lives lost giving the history behind the crashed NAF aircraft...but this is Nigeria!.
Travel › Re: NAF Aircraft Developed Engine Fault Day Before Crash, Grounded - SaharaReporters by Ombre(m): 9:41am On Oct 08
I know what you are chief, not surprised.

You are a typical Nigerian with zilch knowledge about a thing but hold strong opinions on that subject.

Return to google and continue swallowing aggregated rubbish.

Overloaded at 25. Bravo, loadmaster.

Mattswaggz:
Kuku ask me for data to confirm for yourself na instead of cutting corners....since it obvious you don't have.
Travel › Re: NAF Aircraft Developed Engine Fault Day Before Crash, Grounded - SaharaReporters by Ombre(m): 9:39am On Oct 08
This alone confirms to me that you may not be an authority in all you claim to know, having read from you for a while now.

At least, you have entered a field we know.

Garroulous Nigerians always have strong opinions.

FSBoperator:
This is totally false.

The reconnaissance and surveillance aircraft the NAF operated crashed immediately on take off from Abuja airport a few years back.

This particular aircraft is part of the fleet of NAF transport aircrafts.
Travel › Re: NAF Aircraft Developed Engine Fault Day Before Crash, Grounded - SaharaReporters by Ombre(m): 9:32am On Oct 08
No chief.

You are the expert. Tell me your number lets start from there.

Mattswaggz:
Check the required amount of people that it should carry at a time online and get back to me.
Travel › Re: NAF Aircraft Developed Engine Fault Day Before Crash, Grounded - SaharaReporters by Ombre(m): 9:31am On Oct 08
I was so amazed reading all that.

The audacity.

obacasmir:
The guy typed bullshit with so mucj audacity.

I salute his boldness despite the gibberish he wrote.
Travel › Re: NAF Aircraft Developed Engine Fault Day Before Crash, Grounded - SaharaReporters by Ombre(m): 9:25am On Oct 08
You judge it overloaded in what capacity, please?

Mattswaggz:
Yet they deemed it fit enough for usage and even overloading it....what kind of country is this for crying out loud?.
Travel › Re: NAF Aircraft Developed Engine Fault Day Before Crash, Grounded - SaharaReporters by Ombre(m): 9:23am On Oct 08
Civilians will just open mouths waaaa and start vomiting bile.

Who reads all of this now will think you know what you are saying!

Loud but empty.

Dogalmighty17:
I have been talking about this since yesterday. This aircraft is Nigeria's premium intelligence, reconnaissance and surveillance asset. But the Airforce converted such a sensitive plane into a passenger plane against service rules.

An ISR plane should never have been used for carrying passengers. The question here is, was the Airforce charging people who flew this plane? If so, who was the money being paid to? Did the Nigerian civil aviation authority permit this plane to be used to carry passengers?

For those who don't know, this plane was the airborne command centre for operation Lafiya Dole and Operation Hadin Kai in the war against terrorists in the north east. The plane is equipped with advanced sensors and surveillance equipment for monitoring electronic communications of terrorists and their movements. This is the plane that provides fighter jet pilots and military units on the ground with information about terrorist locations, movements and logistic hubs. The alpha jets we still fly, rely heavily on information the ATR-42MP provides for strike locations.

We can now understand how terrorists can attack Nigerian army bases without their advance being spotted. The plane the Airforce should be using to monitor them, is being used to carry VIPs and passengers around. The commanding officer of 81AMG Benin, where this plane was based, needs to be sanctioned.

Using an ISR plane to carry passengers and VIPs is a gross abuse and flagrant unprofessionalism. It will take years before another one can be made available. The company that makes this plane has a backlog of orders. So in effect, Nigeria's fight against terrorists has suffered a serious setback.
Celebrities › Re: What Happened To Karishika? The Nollywood Actress Who Mysteriously Disappeared by Ombre(m): 12:45pm On Oct 07
You need to check your brain oil.

acmev2:
I am at anger and not ayama tanga
Travel › Re: Passenger Attempts To Open Plane Door Mid-Air On A Nigerian Flight by Ombre(m): 10:50am On Oct 07
This is highly risky. How they allowed him on board beats me.
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: 20k Monthly Salary: Farm Owner Receives Backlash From Nigerians (Pics) by Ombre(m): 9:16am On Oct 05
Even prodigal son no go do am!
Crime › Re: Police Arrest Suspect In The Rape Of A 15-year Old Girl In Ughelli by Ombre(m): 8:28pm On Oct 02
The earlier we kill yahoo, the better.
Before yahoo kill us.

My heart goes out to the young lady.
Celebrities › Re: Fela Inspired My Spider-Man Portrayal — British Actor, Andrew Garfield by Ombre(m): 5:19am On Sep 30
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Business › Re: XEJet Loses Ground Handling Services Over ₦300 Million Debt by Ombre(m): 8:13pm On Sep 29
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Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Proper To Use AI To Prepare Sermons? by Ombre(m): 11:13am On Sep 20
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Health › Re: Igho Ubiribo Dies After Penis Enlargement Procedure In Thailand by Ombre(m): 9:36pm On Sep 05
His nick is 'tiny'. Maybe its why he could not take it anymore. Now young boys will flip his widow like pancake.
Politics › Re: Senator Kabiru Gaya Welcomed Back To APC (Video) by Ombre(m): 8:29pm On Sep 05
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Car Talk › Re: What's Wrong With This Camry ? by Ombre(m): 9:28pm On Sep 04
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Crime › Re: Many Terrorists Dead As Boko Haram And ISWAP Attack Themselves In Sambisa Forest by Ombre(m): 9:23pm On Sep 04
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