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bigfish3k:
Who is trying to cheat who? SW is trying to cheat SE
You are supporting the oppressor

Then compete I thought igbos brag about merit ?

Grayoso:
My friend, it is not your turn amd may not be in our lifetime. Even if the Yorubas abstained I make bold to say APC will still not consider an Igbo.

It’s crab mentality
If igbos can’t have it yorubas must not have it

bigfish3k:
Once you contest after using up your own term in the south and the south fails then you should be ready to take the blame
The best presidents nigeria never had : awolowo, abiola, jagaban will join the fray. Watch out

Awwww this is toxic jealousy

Grayoso:
100%. Even Igbos know this and that is why they are making a show of pretending as if it is Yorubas standing in the way of their null and void 2023 ambition.

Expect to read Igbos in 30 years blaming Yorubas for "betraying" them in 2023

Yup yup it’s more of jealousy at how yoruba don’t have the baggage of civil war whenever they express Political interest

See how jealous they were with June 12 declaration

Grayoso:
Take it as you like. You people don't do reality anyway. If you did you'd have accepted long ago that Igbo Presidency in 2023 is a pipe dream whether Yorubas contest or not.

Whether Yoruba contest or not igbo isn’t president 2023 that’s the truth

bigfish3k:
If you can't expel us then stop complaining about us
That means all you have been saying about our peoples hatred for you are lies.
You people still find us special and the best people to be with
Its hard for any society to let go of progressive minded people like the igbos

We organized a free and fair elections for the fulani man and he couldn't win its not our fault.
Igbos are not asking yorubas to vote for them in Yoruba land, we only demand a free and fair elections the same way we do for other tribes in igbo land
You sophisticated people should stop election violence against the igbos its killing your one nigerian dream

We are special blah blah story
Vote for the Fulani first then we will take you seriously

bigfish3k:
How can you say yorubas were neutral.
So you mean that obasanjo entered the war after the igbos tried to annex ore... Say the truth so that your God can be proud of you

Yorubas were neutral and the command structure of how igbos are to be massacred were in Yoruba land

Abeg tell me what kind of neutral be that

Yes it was after ore Yorubas and others switched 100%

bigfish3k post FX=90354726:
Our political leaders supported him but he did not have the population that can make him win

You are not our masters but you will always take up arms against us if we want to leave you. Why didn't you remain neutral
Also remember your newspaper editorials strongly not supporting us while combining and giving the fulanis strategy on how to make sure we remain with you

BTW, why do you want me to ask from our leaders but you are the ones complaining of us.
Why not give us the Singapore treatment.
How Malaysia expelled Singapore to go and be on their own because they don't like them

We urge you to follow that route because we don't love each other

As for yoruba and mid west we were neutral until you sacked mid west and installed an Igbo man and aim to annex Lagos and Ibadan and Yorubas rightly defeated such a move protecting their territorial integrity

If your waiting to be “expelled” before you get biafra you go wait tire

Why did the igbos in Ebonyi not vote for the Fulani man such a wicked people

bigfish3k:
But can you expatriate on the meaning of one nigeria that you people killed igbos on
That means you should support us for Biafra so that we can leave your politics for you and kill off one nigeria
We only contest in places where we are hopeful of winning free and fair with our majority population
I still repeat that we didn't beg to be in SW. We were forced by you people or are you now regretting fighting for one nigeria
We work and pay tax in those places that we live so we are eligible to contest says your "one nigeria constitution "
The Okada ban policy also affected yoruba agberos that usually collect tax from them.
Its a loose loose situation for everybody

Why didn’t you support the Fulani man in Ebonyi
Hypocrisy has a store in aba
Yorubas are not your masters holding Biafra tender it from your leaders

AntonVince:
See delusion!

He even added Delta State that the PDP has held firmly since 1999.

To compound your woes, the SS will produce the PDP's VP candidate thereby effectively reducing Tinubu's votes to 0.000001% in the SE/SS.

Argument has shifted
Let everyone Support their own

bigfish3k:
Your hate igbos even more than the yorubas
Why were you chasing igbo voters away from the queue in the last elections in Lagos. Igbos that are contesting in Lagos are banking on igbo population for vote. Did they beg you to vote them? No
The hausa guys election comments u posted, the hausa guy can depend on his hausa population for votes.
Did you hear that igbos harassed anybody on the queue?
Igbos are fair play people. They know they will win in a fair contest but you people always depend on lopsidedness for victory

If u even attack their business that means you are jealous of their successes.
Not that you even have the might and acumen to replace them in the business

If igbos like their business they should stay off yoruba politics simple as abc
You can see how they used Okada ban to chase people away just one single policy and y’all over period

Grayoso:
God will bless you ojare. This same hateful people who consider it an abomination for a non-Igbo to even dare contest a political position in ala Igbo are the very same folks dragging Lagos politics with Yorubas and claiming it is only a matter of time before Igboman becomes Governor of Lagos.

From the comment of those Igbos, is it not obvious Igbos are mainly hateful , tribalistic, wicked and clannish voters who give nada to others and should rightly deserve nothing from them? Yet Igbos have gotten a lot from the magnanimity of other Nigerians while their SE remains a cauldron of hate others must know their place in. Horrid people.

Yup I’m happy how Yorubas have treated them like the wash after their hostile behaviour In Yoruba land
Awon Okoro indeed

Grayoso:
You expect an Igbo to confess his people are the most hateful in Nigeria? You will see a Leprechaun or a Flying Pig before that happens lol.

Very funny set of people they don’t elect others but want others to elect them

I swear yorubas should not only deal with their business interest in Lagos but all of south west and Yoruba land

bigfish3k:
Where did I campaign of hate
I was telling you the way of the shithole we find ourselves but you people are not cooperating instead you are claiming that we hate you

Its you people that hate us but like living with us

Explain Chidis behaviour

bigfish3k:
All those comments there are not from our political leaders so they are inconsequential.

And nobody in igbo land has ever harassed any hausa voters from voting just like u people did to the igbos in the last election by flogging old men and women with Cain in which ademola at okota nearly got killed
No igbo political leader commented unlike you that jagaban was calling us "awon okoro" to your delight which lead to your people harassing our peaceful voters

BTW, we are not claiming educated and sophistication like you people

This isn’t harassment
Can you see Chidis comment

bigfish3k:
The Bible also said that whatever we agree on earth is agreed in heaven
Why gamble with a trial that will make hausas fulani stronger if you fail
We are currently feeling what they can dish out by way of killings, hunger and insecurity all over and you still have the mind to gamble with what can give them a glimpse of increase in power. Hmnm, I tire oooo

Nobody is determining anything for the south for now until there is southern unity which I am advocating in order to be able to defeat the north
We just need to liberate the south or we perish together.
Our lands and lives will not be safe with the fulanis
I rest my case let's just watch till then but don't change the narrative to start blaming igbos when your gamble fails

Yorubas are not in the business of blaming others unlike igbos
I know them and will support them
You can carry your campaign of hate somewhere else

It’s not greedy for Fulani to rule again
But it’s greedy for yoruba to aspire to do the same

Yorubas must be understanding of the igbos but it’s okay if fulunas are not understanding of the igbos

Just saw you loathe Yoruba people

bigfish3k:
I thought you people are educated and sophisticated, if not for hatred why do you want to fight a man that follows the constitution and wins a free and fair elections in your place. Is that how they behave in the first world countries that Nigerians have been winning elections. Does it mean that Nigerians are now controlling America and London because they won elections?
I thought tinubus campaign slogan during fashola was "changing Lagos from a third world to a first world"
Remember you people forced igbos to be with you.
We didn't beg to be with you, its you people that are using all means possible especially media and including the use of force to make us stay with you

But I still think that separation is the best for all of us if u people will agree because our fathers fought each other.
Me and you are still disagreeing, no common grounds
My children and your children will continue and the vicious circle continues to hamper development

Why have igbos not giving igala chance in Anambra
Yoruba will use all its might to self preserve
Same misadventures Ojukwu did attempting to annex ore and lagos which led to loss of 3m igbos

Self preservation is natural
Go and build your region and stop the obsession with brown roof yoruba land

Are igbos not educated too

bigfish3k:
We only contest where we have population in Lagos and in a free and fair elections we should win. We were forced to spread into Yoruba and hausa lands because of the Civil War and the neglect of our region by checkmating how far it can be developed.
Why are you now blaming us for what you wasted our blood just to force us to be with you.

You mean that Yoruba that controls the press will keep quiet if Stella Odua actually sacked Yoruba and replace with igbo. Hmnm
You have forgotten that civil service operate with rules.
She can only employ more igbos than yoruba but not sack
You say igbos hate yorubas but you are yet to give me one example

But I still wonder why you people are bent on still sharing the same country with the igbos who have intentions of going but you people are stiffly against it but the same you turn around and say we hate you.
I have never seen where somebody will be willing to die just to keep its purported enemies as same country man. I am yet unravel this kind of paradox with yorubas
Let's watch and see how yorubas will win without the other south supporting

Well Yorubas will continue controlling Lagos and SW as the most populous ethnic group and will use their political might to destroy any ethnic group that attempts to interfere In it’s politics / compete with the local Yoruba lagosians and Damn all the consequences

Grayoso:
All IPOBians are self-delusional. Fact is Biafra will never ever be with 90% of Igbo political, business and elite leaders against it.

Without a reversal of this situation Biafra will never be because Igbos who have the power and influence to make Biafra an independent nation are not interested. They want ro remain Nigerians and in Nigeria.

I suspect most Igbos know this and are frustrated. Yet in line with their clannish/tribalistic proclivities and dishonest nature, they prefer to come here daily to attack Yorubas and Hausa/Fulani for "not letting them go" whereas it is actually their greedy, wicked leaders and people of influence keeping them hostage.

3 bottles

bigfish3k:
Awo fought for Lagos to be part of SW
So entertering Lagos and Oyo politics is our crime
But how is that a crime in a nigeria u people forced us to remain part of as one nigeria
You say igbos hated you through Jonathan, can you provide evidence or still just the normal Yoruba propaganda
If you don't want southern unity I don't have problems with that, but just remember that no southerner can be president without that unity in this etno religious nigeria

Hausas occupied most positions and not igbos as I displayed earlier to you
Yorubas just left power to Jonathan and you complaining that he did not carry you people along. This is tinubus narrative and plan that was why he worked against a Yoruba candidate from becoming the speaker. He worked for tambuwal, so why are you not blaming tinubu for that

Well I’m not yoruba so I can’t speak for them
But I’m sure your entering Lagos and oyo was meant to be “payback” for the roles Yorubas played in civil war where you won’t try that with Hausa shows there’s nothing like southern unity

So because Yorubas fought to keep igbos igbos will punish them and dabble into their politics something they won’t do with Hausas that even did worse to them
Abeg

Your people hate yorubas so bad
Stella Oduah sacking Yorubas replacing them with igbos
Will Buhari ever sack kanuri and replace with Fulani ? That’s the end of North solidarity
And that’s what happened in south

So I genuinely pray tinubu clinches the Ticket & wins convincingly

The igbos are never a friend to yorubas period

MetaPhysical:


Nna, to effect One Nigeria the grassroot must be unhinged so that an Ibo or Hausa have equal and same right as Yoruba to be a Baale or an Oba in Yorubaland.

By same degree of unity a Yoruba or Igbo have equal and same right as Fulani to become a Maigari or Emir in Hausaland.

Likewise the two of Yoruba and Fulani carry that right to become ruler over in Iboland.

This is one nigeria! Anything else is a joke.


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bigfish3k:
If we continue dwelling in all these we will not move forward because we also have derogatory words said to igbos like : nyamiri, omo ibo nio oo, awon okoro, people that wakes up their parents with a side kick, potopoto region, Igbo, pigs, Biafra, erosion ravaged region, omo nna. Etc

Also read how Lagos was fought for to be included in the SW. It was not originally in the SW. Lagos was a special colony on its own before the yorubas fought for it to be part of SW.

After yorubas fought igbos in 1967 to remain with them to develop Lagos with the resources gotten from the old SE . We surrendered and trooped to Lagos and gbam! Lagos developed that was when yorubas started taunting igbos to go back to their region without giving them Biafra

They started yabbing and arresting our people hustling calling them gala sellers.
We gat to remind them how they got Lagos by calling it a no man's land.
No man's land is a reactionary statement to what was said to them by the yorubas. So it shouldn't pain them much or they should support and give us Biafra so that everybody go face him lane

Point is we saw igbos hated Yorubas under Jonathan
Do you see how Buhari is carrying the entire north along ?
Gej didn’t carry Yorubas along
Also remember Igbo agenda to enter Lagos and oyo politics
You igbos clearly hated Yorubas and used gej as a platform to display your hate

Dey now sacked you from power your crying southern unity lol
Abeg southern unity led by Yorubas eg obj remains the best option not the Igbo led discriminatory one

As for Lagos I don’t know why your being delusional

Yorubas didn’t fight for it
They got a state created and it was returned after abuja was created to Yorubas 74% of Lagos igr is still from Yorubas through payee tax

bigfish3k:
It was a Yoruba that just handed over power to the Jonathan government. Your people enjoyed for the 8 years maximally while others were minimal.
Isn't it fair for you people to pipe low while others take the maximal enjoyment? But because of your greedy nature you people started crying that Jonathan marginalized you even though it wasn't true.
Where and when did igbos attack you.
Tinubu worked against a SW speaker because he wants to remain as the only relevant political leader in the SW.
Jonathan was SS
VP was north
Senate president. North
Speaker north
Judiciary head north
Civil defense Yoruba
Army igbo
Navy north
Air force Yoruba
Immigration north
NIA yoruba
CBN north
SFG igbo
CDS yoruba etc
From the above tell me how he marginalized yorubas and gave everything to igbos unlike what is happening now to the igbos with your full connivance

You people are high degree propagandists
But thank God the internet has bursted most of your lies

If u don't want southern unity it's the north that will benefit from it. We shall all loose if the yorubas continue their greed

I’m not yoruba
But remember the Lagos is no mans land
Yoruba are ewedu people

Just go through this thread for the so called southern unity in page 1

https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan/54#89305158

bigfish3k:
Tinubu doesn't want ambode you people agreed and followed him
Tinubu installed 4 governors out of the six in Yoruba land so he is your leader whom majority of you follow. It doesn't mean that all yorubas must follow him before you know he is your leader. He is your political leader

Before he drops dead he should foster southern unity so that an igbo man can be president but he is not doing that now
What I am saying is that he is very wrong in not advocating for an igbo presidency now that he is alive because if he dies it either he left a united south behind or a disjointed south.

See painment
Why Jonathan no remember southern unity
We’re igbos not attacking Yorubas under “southern” unity now the Yorubas sacked your hero and you acknowledged he’s the Yoruba leader and he has the right to contest and win convincingly since you igbos want to be saboteurs

oyatz:
Obviously you don't understand Nigerian politics with this very naive post you just posted.

1) How is Tinubu my leader or the leader of the Yorubas?

Is Tinubu the leader of FFK, Bode George, Ayo Fayose, Dr Olusegun Mimiko?

If Tinubu is the leader of Yorubas, who then is the leader of Igbos?
Who is the leader of the Edos,who is the leader of Nupe, Who is the leader of Igala people?

2) The way you are making 2023 election centred on Tinubu is quite funny.

Let's assume that Tinubu dies today, will that translate to an Igboman becoming the president in 2023?

If Tinubu or any S/West Politician doesn't contest, several other people will still contest and most likely will defeat Peter Obi, Ike Enweremadu or Ogbonnaya Onu.


3) It's better you encourage Igbo candidates to Join the presidential race with all seriousness and start projecting them instead of giving us 1001 reasons why Tinubu should not run for the Presidency.

4) You can't chase four rats simultaneously and catch any anyone.

*Biafra or Death!
* I am Atikulated
*Igbo Presidency
* Tinubu must not contest.


Chose one and devote your time, energy and resources to it.



#Cheers

Well said

AhoadaRivers:
Stop trying to be intellectually fradulent.
All the parties contested, and NCNC had the highest numerical votes (which means more Nigerian INDIVIDUALS voted Zik and NCNC) but had 81 seats which is the prime raison d'etre in a parliamentary system.

So Zik/NCNC was voted by more Nigerian individuals in that elections and that alone deflates your half-witted argument.

You yorubas are the ones who are cursed with killing your own child with your hands in the electoral sphere. Any yorubaman yorubas vote fails. It's a curse.

Then why wasn’t he head of government?

Only ceremonial
Abeg an Igbo man has never been voted head of government before simple as abc

Ceremonial Governor General and Vice President is your highest achievement and considering we don’t a ceremonial president again vp is your highest position and it was almost 20 years ago

AhoadaRivers:
NCNC which you yorubas tagged an 'Ibo party' won more than 2 million national votes and 81 parliamentary seats, they merged with NPC and formed government.

More than 2milIion nigeria voted Ibos (Zik) to lead in 1959. An Ibo voted their own in that election, a priviledge you yoruba will never get.

Even yoruba candidates will start learning to stay away from yoruba voters like OBJ did, as your votes are a curse to every yoruba aspirant.

It’s called paliamentary system of government so it was built on mergers not the people’s vote

He lost in the west
He never contested with Tafawa instead corporates as a junior partner
The only time azikwe contested in 1970s he lost woefully Lool so I repeat an Igbo man has never been elected head of government before

Ceremonial president and a failed 6 months military leadership is what the Igbo man has gotten to politically

AhoadaRivers:
Even inside you know tinubu stands no chance against Atiku, Tambuwal etc that's why some of you have been crying that 'SE should ask for PDP ticket, not becos you love them but because you think you stand a better chance to use propaganda against them and win. Ibos are also smart enough not to fall for your bait. Ibo sense 101.

In this today's ethno-religiously charged nigeria, north will vote north and SW will divide votes as usual, while SE and SS unfailingly vote enbloc as they been doing.

Tell yourself your utopian make-me-happy tales if it will serve as the tranquilizer you need to sleep well this night.

Pragmatism is different from your utopian idealism.

Loooooool apply your utopian advise time yourself when yoruba is presidency they don’t divide our votes it’s a one way thing

AhoadaRivers:
Was he voted for or not?
The queen of England is also ceremonial just like Zik was.

The key point is Igbos succesfuly voted him, while yoruba votes have always failed yoruba candidates. True or False?

Igbos didn’t vote for him it was a party merger Nigeria wasn’t operating a presidential system then

So igbos have never been voted to lead Nigeria before
That’s the bitter truth
and they can’t coerce the nation into presenting their own on the two political parties lol

Even ijaw has been voted for

anigbajumo:
See conspiracy theory...wat OBJ second term in 2007, wat of Osinbajo on joint ticket with PMB twice in 2015 and 2019??

Did your people vote for Ojukwu and co?? Before u can start attacking us for not voting for Igbo man, how many times av u voted massively for Igbo any Igbo man?? Not even ur Almighty Ojukwu.

No wonder ur useless assumption av sent the like of Dino,Saraki,Atiku,Ambode,kwakwanso and some other politicians to deep sea..I can't just stop laughing ah swear

Loool

AhoadaRivers:
It is simple, once APC give ticket to yoruba, PDP ticket is going north sharparly, no time!

May the most populous votes win.

Yes may the most populous vote win

Just don’t cry afterwards

Or cry about ewedu

AhoadaRivers:
Buhari had a hard time with Atiku in the last elections elections yet you think a fake muslim 'kaffir' like Tinubu will beat Atiku in the North? You are a bloody joker. Wake up from your lalaland!

So tinubu a yoruba muslim will choose a northern christian VP, effectively sidelining the northern muslim bloc and you think they will agree? See this oponu o.

Even if he picks a northern muslim as VP, in a muslim-muslim arrangement in this current ethno-religiously divided nigeria, he will lose vital christian votes both in the North and south even yoruba christian votes sef. You think say na MKO time wey national unity bin dey we dey? Wahala dey o! Lmao!

The surest banker for the north against tinubu, is their own son and candidates, politics is all they have in the north and if SW grab the ticket in APC, PDP should start jubilating as they are coming back to power. Na simple political mathematics wey dey give una nightmare but you can continue to pretend say you get hope. Aboy, hope no dey o. Nothing for una!

The few yoruba leaders who are not too myopic have already seen your imminent failure in 2023, that's why they are sending subtle messages of seccesion with Amotekun and Oduduwa republic. Both charades are dead on arrival. You can't eat your cake and have it.

Loooool I want to see your rant when tinubu defeats the northerner in pdp
It will be catastrophic

You believe tinubu will lose in North
We believe he will marginally win in north and Clear SW with some crumbs in ss and nothing from se