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Politics / Re: Ranking Of Nigerian States By Poverty Rates by Oseite: 4:44pm On Jul 01, 2015
Brainwox:
Abeg park well, I'm from osun and leave among the people here in the state, the level of poverty here is so high that only God can answer to it. What contributed most to this is the way the citizens swallow whatever the governor tells them hook, line and sinker. Imagin that iiidiot saying osun is riccher than the whole of south east. Anyways, Osun is richer than south east on paper but far far poorer than Zamfara state in reality.
Let me ask you a question. Have you been to Zamfara? The average Nigerian always believes his place is worse than outside. that is why you can even see nigerians in bangladesh

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Politics / Re: Ranking Of Nigerian States By Poverty Rates by Oseite: 4:40pm On Jul 01, 2015
BuddahMonk:


This is why I don't pity you moroons with you supreme leader government.

Keep swimming in ignorance.

Imagine Osun State and Ekiti state.

I don suffer for obodo naijiriya

Imagine a scenario...I have been working for 20 years, and for those 20 years I have been saving, if for 9 months of the 21st year I am not paid, I DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY BECOME A POOR MAN.

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Politics / Re: Ranking Of Nigerian States By Poverty Rates by Oseite: 3:15pm On Jul 01, 2015
Also, I am not as rich as Dangote but I do not owe banks either, Dangote does. So the fact that I am not in debt does not make me rich

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Politics / Re: Ranking Of Nigerian States By Poverty Rates by Oseite: 3:13pm On Jul 01, 2015
Yujin:

Yeah I know they shouldn't be taken seriously but my grouse is with the source of the report. If UN can be easily deceived then what can I say?
The fact that Osun owes Anambra doesn't automatically mean that Anambra has a lower poverty line. USA has a lower poverty line than China but USA owes China a lot of money

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Politics / Re: Ranking Of Nigerian States By Poverty Rates by Oseite: 3:06pm On Jul 01, 2015
It is entirely plausible that Osun is second on the list. In fact, the relatively lower poverty level in Osun is the reason why that state is not on fire yet. The problem with salaries is not up to a year, it takes more than that period of time to compute the poverty levels of a state. Think about it, have you heard that people are dying of starvation in Osun?

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Politics / Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Oseite: 12:40pm On Jun 30, 2015
Another point I should make is as regards Emmanuel Ifeajuna. He has been referred to in this thread as being an igbo supremacist, who authored and engineered the first coup, deceiving Nzeogwu and Ademoyega. Let me first state that these three are the nucleus of that coup, everyone else....Anuforo, Onwuategwu, Chukwuka, Okafor, et al were brought in later. It may be true that he had an ethnic bias, but it is also possible that he didn't. Obasanjo wrote of him in his book 'Nzeogwu', that he was impulsive, and that he was also a courageous coward. Right from his secondary school days through university he liked to stir up uprisings, but when shit hits the fan, he was nowhere to be found to bear responsibility. These characteristics in my opinion better explain his actions on the day of the coup than that he was ethnically biased. I want to reiterate here that it is an insult to the memories of Nzeogwu and Ademoyega to suggest that Ifeajuna somehow pulled the wool over their eyes.
Another point I must make here is that it is simplistic to think that exercise Damisa was unknown to the soldiers who accompanied Nzeogwu. Perhaps in the initial stages, but not eventually. It is also silly to suggest that after Nzeogwu told them he forced them to do as he commanded. They were more in number and were also armed, thy participated willingly as far as I am concerned and when things did not turn out well they gave flimsy excuses of not being aware of what was going on. A certain Sani Abacha was part of those soldiers, given all that has transpired in Nigeria since then do you really believe that he was forced totally against his will, especially as he was more or less the most successful coup plotter in Nigeria's history...he was involved in one way or the other in all the subsequent successful coups including the counter coup of July 1966

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Politics / Re: INTERVIEW: Why We Killed Ironsi And Installed Gowon — Rtd Gen. Jeremiah Useni by Oseite: 12:17pm On Jun 30, 2015
I have gone through a lot of the comments on this page before deciding to stop being a guest reader and observer and just contribute.
Firstly, I am a Nigerian, and that is the only thing that matters and should matter. My tribe is not important, especially as though I have lived most of my life in Nigeria, I have actually spent more time outside Nigeria than in my so-called state of origin. I however, for the benefit of those who might want deduce wrongly, state that I am not Hausa, Yoruba, or Igbo.
My second point is that I will appreciate it if no one insulted me because my views may be divergent to his or hers, as this is a place where one expects people to be level headed and civil. I must also state that I am a Lagosian....meaning I was born and live in Lagos, and that I was born in the 80s, and so I have no personal recollections of life before or during the civil war.

I have done a lot of reading....Why we struck by Adewale Ademoyega, and Nzeogwu by Olusegun Obasanjo. Pls note that my not referring to the authors by their titles is not a mark of disrespect, especially as one of them is late and the other is cummulatively the longest serving president of Nigeria. My conclusion is that although the execution of the 1966 January coup was flawed, maybe by ethnic sentiments, maybe not, but in the planning stage it was NOT an Igbo coup. Majors Nzeogwu and Ademoyega were not deceived as they were both involved in the planning of the coup. The execution left much to be desired, but from all indications they had not planned on killing any civilians. In the spur of the moment, mistakes were made, and maybe ethnicity played a part but calling it an Igbo coup is unfair. Remember that Nigeria was a true federation then, unlike now that we have a quasi-federal structure, and the average easterner was content with his lot. There wasn't much reason to rebel. The crisis area in Nigeria was the West, where there were riots, allegations of rigging in the 1964 parliamentary elections, which were probably true, and subversion of the people. Even if one chooses to believe that the 1966 coup was an Igbo coup, only a few civilians died, which was WRONG, but it does not excuse the events of July 1966. It is referred to as a counter coup, because there was no ideological basis for it. It was a revenge coup, pure and simple. The amount of civilians who died in the January coup can be counted on my hand, and they were casualties for the most part. In the July coup, there was a calculated attempt to exterminate an entire ethnic group, and let's not pretend that was not the case. No matter what had triggered the counter coup, to call the pogrom an overreaction is an understatement. The most disgusting part of it is that most of those responsible for it, have either died peacefully or are still alive and are in the corridors of power today. This is why though I would urge people to not just ignore the past, but not dwell on it too much and move on, I understand why some cannot, especially those old enough to remember.

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