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Don't forget my point is not to praise evil or iniquity, but to praise cleverness, shrewdness, wiseness or good business inside the evil or iniquity done.

↝ PROSTITUTION IS EVIL, BUT PROSTITUTION WITHOUT PAYMENT IS BAD BUSINESS ↜

[Ezekiel 16:31 NEB] — You have built your couch at the top of every street and constructed your stool in every open place, but, unlike the common prostitute, you have scorned a fee.
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[Ezekiel 16:31 AFV] — "In that you build your eminent place at the head of every crossroad, and make your high place in every square. Yet you have not been as a harlot, in that you scorn any payment to you from your lovers."
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[Ezekiel 16:31 LBP] — "In that you built your notorious shrines at the head of every way, and set your altars in every street; and yet you were not as clever as a harlot who charges a price;"

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We saw in preceding verse to this bible verse in red that to the Lord, stubbornness is weakness of heart, not strength or power — For the Lord is Doctor Himself who diagnoses (searches) the heart and reins, and reveals to everyone his hidden sickness or wealth, weakness or strength. He was with the Prostitutes and publican as the Lord Jesus, associating with the sinners. Some religious folks criticised His association with prostitutes, harlots, whores, hooligans or sinners. But the Lord Jesus replied them saying:

[Matthew 9:12-13 BSB] — “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”"

She's the sick, the Lord's the Doctor: And according to the Doctor (in preceding verse to this bible verse in red), her stubbornness in prostitution was symptom or sign of weakness of her heart. Now in this bible verse in red, another sign of her weakness or ignorance is her doing prostitution but not getting paid as a professional prostitute — She's both doing evil and bad business:

■1■ — She's doing Evil because doing Prostitution is Evil;

■2■ — She's doing Bad Business because doing Prostitution without getting paid as a prostitute is Bad Business.

I want you to understand that even when two men or women are doing the same evil thing, one of them could be clever in business doing that evil while the other is foolish or poor in business doing the same evil thing. You read the story of two women who ate their children as cannibals: but one of the women that was clever in business doing that evil hid her child but made the other woman to kill and cook the woman's child for both of them to eat.

Judas Iscariot betrayed (sold) the Lord Jesus — that was terribly evil thing to do: But in doing that terrible iniquity or evil, Judas was clever in business to charge 30 pieces of silver as payment. That payment, 30 pieces of silver, was commended by the Lord saying, “It was a good Price I was valued by them” and that 30 pieces of silver bought a field or large size of land even if it's for burial or it's called field of blood. — As it is written,

[Zechariah 11:12-13: MKJV] — "And I said to them, If [it is] good, give My price; and if not, let it go. So they weighed My price thirty [pieces] of silver. And the LORD said to me, Throw it to the potter, the magnificent price at which I was valued by them. And I took the thirty [pieces] of silver and threw them to the potter in the house of the LORD.”

Don't forget my point is not to praise evil or iniquity, but to praise cleverness, shrewdness, wiseness or good business inside the evil or iniquity done. Look at the parable of the unfaithful steward told by the Lord Jesus Christ: – Notice the shrewdness of the unfaithful manager was commended even when his unfaithfulness was condemned. Before I cite the bible reference, let me first tell you that this unfaithful steward (or manager) somehow did with his master’s goods the same things that the prodigal son did with his father's goods — Both wasted or squandered their principal’s goods or money under their care: However, the steward was clever, while the prodigal son was foolish, in both doing similar things. The reason the steward was clever in doing unfaithfulness or corruption while prodigal son was foolish in doing corruption was because — The steward gained debtors owing his master to owe him, so that he would make more friendship with the debtors by forgiving them some debts as discount or bonuses if they could come up with half or some fractions of the payments for their debts. But on the other hand, the prodigal son squandered all his principal’s wealth with harlots or prostitutes he barely knew or that would desert him as soon as his wealth is gone.

[Luke 15:30 BSB] — "But when this son of yours returns from squandering your wealth with prostitutes, you kill the fattened calf for him!’”

When both the prodigal son and the unfaithful steward ran out of graces, the prodigal son was reduced to feeding with pigs because even though he begged no one gave him something to eat; but on the other hand the steward said he cannot dig (labour work) and he's ashamed to beg — so he used his sense without feeding with pigs to find homes or houses that would receive him as friends, while the prodigal son only came to his senses after feeding with pigs and in his sense he returned to his father's house to be received as servant not as son or friend. See the steward\manager after seeing the prodigal son because the story of the Steward or Manager is the next story you see immediately following the story of the prodigal son in the bible.


[b][Luke 16:1-11 GWN] — Then Jesus said to His disciples, "A rich man had a business manager. The manager was accused of wasting the rich man's property. So the rich man called for his manager and said to him, 'What's this I hear about you? Let me examine your books. It's obvious that you can't manage my property any longer.' "The manager thought, 'What should I do? My master is taking my job away from me. I'm not strong enough to dig, and I'm ashamed to beg. I know what I'll do so that people will welcome me into their homes when I've lost my job.' "So the manager called for each one of his master's debtors. He said to the first, 'How much do you owe my master?' "The debtor replied, 'Eight hundred gallons of olive oil.' "The manager told him, 'Take my master's ledger. Quick! Sit down, and write "four hundred!"' "Then he asked another debtor, 'How much do you owe?' "The debtor replied, 'A thousand bushels of wheat.' "The manager told him, 'Take the ledger, and write "eight hundred!"' "The master praised the dishonest manager for being so clever. Worldly people are more clever than spiritually-minded people when it comes to dealing with others." [Jesus continued,] "I'm telling you that although wealth is often used in dishonest ways, you should use it to make friends for yourselves. When life is over, you will be welcomed into an eternal home. Whoever can be trusted with very little can also be trusted with a lot. Whoever is dishonest with very little is dishonest with a lot. Therefore, if you can't be trusted with wealth that is often used dishonestly, who will trust you with wealth that is real?[/b]

Again, don't forget my point is not to praise evil or iniquity, but to praise cleverness, shrewdness, wiseness or good business inside the evil or iniquity done.

Satan the devil is evil doing evil, but Satan does good business inside evil doings or evil works. So, the serpent was wiser than the beasts of the field the Lord God made. The woman in the garden first knew the serpent's wiseness before she knew the serpent's evil or wickedness. The Lord still uses Satan for his cleverness.

Now let's focus on the bible verse in red at the very top. See it here

[Ezekiel 16:31] — "Actually you weren't even a normal prostitute when you built yourselves high places at the top of every street and customers’ centre on every public square— because you refused to be paid for your services!”

She invested much resources into building those places or those facilities for the conveniences and services of customers in need of prostitution — but she either refused or was too weak to demand payment from the customers or men that came into her. So, she was both doing terrible evil (prostitution or idolatry) work and yet she was doing bad business — spending or investing without getting or collecting returns. This was unlike how other prostitutes do, infact she's not fit to be called prostitute if she's not getting paid for her sex services. Have you not seen prostitutes beat up a man for not paying them after using them and their facilities? Why would you spend so much and give so much to strangers for free at your own detriment and destruction?

If you must give free gifts or give things for free, make such both the gifts and the works are good, acceptable and perfect will of God. Every good and perfect gift comes from God, and are therefore paid by God when given freely. There's a reason why the best things of life are free, while somehow the things that are expensive or costly are things that can also damage, corrupt, spoil or things of vanity. Evil has short lifespan and short efficiency, and so evil cost more or charges much in returns for its exchanges.

Again, why would she spend so much or lose so much to do evil but get nothing from the evil in return, not even a satisfisfaction? To gain the whole world as return for losing your soul is already a bad business with no profit. How much more losing your soul but gain nothing or no one in return for losing your soul.

Few weeks ago, there were 2 different reports about transactions in exchange for virginity or prostitution of virgins.

[A] — One of the reports stated that somewhere in Ghana, virgins are losing their virginity in exchange for just fish. It continued the outcry saying, men are luring young girls to bed of sex just with fish, soup or a plate of food as their payment or reward. One of them, at the age of 13 years already gave birth to a child in her father's house.

[B] — The other report stated that The 2025 UK virginity auction refers to the widely reported case of Laura, a 22-year-old student from Manchester, who auctioned (sold) her virginity for £1.7 million through an escort agency’s website, with a Hollywood actor placing the winning bid. This event, covered by outlets like Moneycontrol, NDTV, Hindustan Times, and Daily Mail, sparked global attention and debate due to its intersection of economic motivations, personal autonomy, and traditional values.

Laura, raised in a religious and "very strict" household, decided in December 2023 to auction her virginity via Cinderella Escorts, a German-based agency. She viewed it as a pragmatic financial decision, stating, “Many girls lose their virginity without getting anything in return. At least I secured my future.”

The auction attracted high-profile bidders, including politicians, business tycoons, and celebrities. A competitive process culminated in an “extremely well-known Hollywood actor from Los Angeles” outbidding a London politician and a Dubai businessman. The transaction was finalized at a five-star London hotel, with a medical examination confirming Laura’s virginity for authenticity, conducted discreetly to protect all parties’ identities.
Financial Outcome: The £1.7 million enabled Laura to buy apartments for rental income, purchase new clothes, and travel. She described the sum as “life-changing” and expressed interest in pursuing a “sugar baby” lifestyle, seeking a wealthy partner for financial support and romance.

In nutshell, Laura kept her virginity till 22 years, but sold her virginity to any man who would disvirgin her at the cost of £1.7 million. [The £1.7 million from the 2025 UK virginity auction converts to approximately **$2.18 million USD**, based on an exchange rate of £1 = $1.283 (as of mid-2025 estimates).] Business men, politicians and celebrities, across the world came and bidded to have this virgin prostitute, but it was a Hollywood Actor that outbid them all at that price he valued her virginity and willing to pay just to sleep with this undefiled virgin as the first man, but after sleeping with her he's done with her as with a prostitute in a five star hotel.

Though the cases in the two reports I cited from few weeks ago are about “Virgin Prostitution” which are equally evil, yet one report was report good (clever) business that even got the virgin defiled prostitute a house of her own and things, while the other left those newly recruited to whores or prostitutes from being virgins but still under their parents houses in Ghana. Which of these evils or Prostitutions was good or bad business?

MaxInDHouse:
So i'm telling you confidently that true Christianity died after the death of first century disciples of Christ {Revelations 11:7} but in the twentieth century rose again as Jehovah's Witnesses {Revelations 11:11} that's why God gave them another group name to distinguish them out of all the false religions claiming Christians:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

If you don't agree it's OK but that's the undeniable truth and reason why you can't mention the name of your own church now!

Your confidence is saying that — true Christianity died with the death of first century Disciples of Christ (alluding to Revelation 11:7) but in about 2000 years later the dead Christianity rose again as Jehovah's Witnesses (as their God's given name) — that confidence is a confidence of one who is wise in his own eyes.

[Proverbs 26:12 FBV] — "Have you seen a man who is wise in his own eyes? There's more hope for stupid people than for him!"

The men who died in [Revelation 11:7] you cited were the same men who rose in [Revelation 11:11] you also cited. How comes Christianity died with the death of the Disciples of Christ about 2000 years earlier, but about 2000 years later those men Christianity died with did not rise from the dead only their Christianity rose again from the dead and God changed its name to Jehovah's Witnesses? Who rose from the dead or from the sleep with the new version of Christianity after 2000 years dead? Was Charles Russell Taze among the earlier Disciples of Christ that died about 2000 years ago but the only one who rose again from the dead 2000 years later with the Christianity now called Jehovah's Witnesses? Or was the group by which the dead Christianity rose again from the dead among those early Disciples? What about the Jehovah's Witnesses' Bible Translation: was their Bible translation dead but rose from the dead alone with them and the same used by those early Christianity?

Your so-called "God's rename" to you as the risen and replacement to Christianity — even the name "Jehovah's Witnesses" is a contradiction to the true Gospel and Reality of the Dispensation of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

It's now about the Lord Jesus Christ the Son of God, not about "Jehovah:" — It's about naming the name of Christ, not naming the name of Jehovah. It's about praying in the name and Person of the Lord Jesus Christ, not in the name of Jehovah. The Church is built on "You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God", not built on "You are Jehovah." It is the revelation of who Christ Jesus the Son is, and there is no other name by which mankind can be saved. It is about every knee bow at the mention of the name of Jesus Christ, and every tongue confess that "JESUS IS JEHOVAH." It's is about those who believe in His name Jesus Christ to be saved, not those who believe in the name "Jehovah."

True "Christians" or "Christianity" bears the name of Christ: You must be baptised on the name of Jesus Christ, not in the name Jehovah. You must be identified, saved, sanctified or justified, all in that name of the Lord Jesus Christ, nothing more and nothing less.

[1 Corinthians 6:11] — "And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

[1 John 3:23] — "And this is His commandment: that we should believe in the name of His Son, Jesus Christ, and we should love one another just as He commanded us."

We are not "Jehovah's Witnesses:" rather we are "Witnesses of Jesus Christ" having the Testimony of Jesus Christ who is the Centre of true Gospel.

One of the differences between you and us is that as for you, "You are Jehovah's Witnesses;" but as for us "Jehovah is our Witness, while we are Witnesses of the Lord Jesus Christ, having the true Testimony Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit of Christ.

MaxInDHouse:
Can you mention one church where their members have the same line of thought so that whenever they talk about their teaching people can say "i know the church having that teaching" like Jehovah's Witnesses? John 17:22; Ephesians 4:3

NO!

Not No, but Yes. There are churches their members are known by their doctrines or teachings, by their style or codes of dressing, by their way of prayers, by their discipline or conducts etc.

MaxInDHouse:
Can you mention one church where their members are globally known for love among themselves like Jehovah's Witnesses? John 13:34-35

NO!

Not No, but Yes: yet not necessarily like Jehovah's Witnesses but as the Lord would have love shared amongst them

MaxInDHouse:
Can you name a religion among all those claiming Christian churches that's actively preaching and teaching like Jehovah's Witnesses? Matthew 28:19-20

No

Not "No" but "Yes" I can name Christian Churches that are actively preaching and teaching, but not necessarily like Jehovah's Witnesses.

JW go door to door knocking, and sharing their Awake and Watchtower messages. I even benefited from one who taught me as a child using "My book of my Bible Stories" in the 1990s.

However, there are Churches that preach and evangelize without door to door, but by sending out Missionaries and sponsoring them, some by television or media evangelism, some by morning cry or early morning town crying, some by preaching in the buses or parts as mobile Evangelists, some by outreaches in schools including secondary schools, programmes, crusades, campus fellowships etc. some by sharing tracts and Bibles like the Gideon Bible outreach, some by public video or cinema projection evangelism showing Christian or Gospel movies especially the crucifixion of Christ, some by acting dramas, some by hospital visitations, some by charity and less privilege ones under their care, some running schools and teaching Christian values and morning devotions during assembly in school or during special school fellowship break time, some by buying and sharing monthly or Daily Christian devotional or journals like Deeper life Women Mirror then or Christ Embassy's Rhasody of Reality the way you JW share Awake or Watchtower for a token etc.

Now, many are evangelizing even by online, websites, social media and forums like this.

So, do not think only the JW do evangelism. [Not to mention the errors in JW teachings].

MaxInDHouse:
Are you saying Jesus is not the perfect way to know the truth about God? John 14:6

How can you say what Jesus (God's Son) told us to do can be deceitful?

Guy thanks for your time, goodbye!

I am saying knowing Jesus the Lord and following the Spirit is the way to know any one or any fruits without being deceived.

MaxInDHouse:
Well the interpretation is simple.

Figure TWO spiritually signify strength in the sense that when one is getting weak the other will give him a backing {Ecclesiastes 4:9} so this refers to the disciples of Jesus who were two groups of sheep {John 10:16} their preaching and teaching in the first century was really effective that they covered the known world of their time.
Their death is what Jesus said at Matthew 13:25 that men were sleeping that's the time Satan's agents overshadowed them and from that time true Christianity disappeared on planet earth {Luke 18:8} until the twentieth century when Jehovah's Witnesses began doing the work again exactly like the first century disciples of Christ! Revelations Revelations 11:11

Errors:

The number two does not spiritually signify strength. No number signifies strength. The reference you cited in Ecclesiastes was only showing how two is better than one, and then how three or threefold cords is better than two.

The reference you cited in "John 10:16" that says the Lord Jesus had other sheep not of this fold; and He would gather them together with these under one fold and one Shepherd, Himself, — The other sheep outside the one fold was not another fold of sheep outside but He was referring to the lost sheep He was yet to find or gather.

The two witnesses in "Revelation 11" were neither "Jehovah's Witnesses" nor referring to Two-Fold Sheep of the early Apostles — Who fed you all these lies and confusion?

The Two Witnesses are the Two Olive Trees standing before the Lord of the whole earth.

[Revelation 11:4] — "These witnesses are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth."

Again in old testament, see the two Witnesses or two Olive Trees in Zechariah:

[Zechariah 4:11-14] — "Then I asked the angel, “What are the two olive trees on the right and left of the lampstand?” And I questioned him further, “What are the two olive branches beside the two gold pipes from which the golden oil pours?” “Do you not know what these are?” he inquired. “No, my lord,” I replied. So he said, “These are the two anointed ones who are standing beside the Lord of all the earth.”"


The death of the two olive trees or two witnesses had nothing to do with the death of Christianity or the sleeping time the enemy planted tares. Infact, that event is yet to happen in future, not a past event. — I am disappointed with this lack of understanding. Their death is just three and half days, following after both how long and where the Lord Jesus Christ was crucified or died in what was figuratively called Sodom and Egypt.

Like I said to you, true Christianity never disappeared or died. And Jehovah's Witnesses are not replacement to Christianity or the Church Movement. Neither do Jehovah's Witnesses represent the rising of the dead to the Christianity you claimed died, like the two witnesses rose from the dead.

By the way, why didn't the Jehovah's Witnesses ascended into heaven like the two witnesses ascended into heaven immediately they rose from the dead? Didn't the same Jehovah's Witnesses deny men can go into heaven, but believe only in paradise on earth?

Maximus692:
Guy there is a FRUIT God's Organization should produce.
This fruit has nine qualities: LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

No imperfect human can have all these qualities but when talking about the gathering of imperfect humans where God's Holy Spirit is in control imperfect humans will exhibit these qualities as one group! John 17:22

Ọmọ you never know anything but since you feel you know i will leave you alone if you want me to go!

By their fruits, you shall know them — says the Lord.

However, knowing them by their fruits only has limits and can be deceitful. You cannot fully know any man or organisation just by their fruits, including those so-called nine qualities of the fruit you listed.

There are levels of knowledge past knowing by fruits, to knowing by discernment, knowing by revelation or knowing by word of knowledge.

If you still trust only knowing Organizations or persons by their fruits, you are vulnerable to strong deception. The Spiritual discerns all things by the Spirit, not by the fruits. Grow up.

It is called fruits of the Spirit: but you are called to walk in the Spirit, not just to walk by the fruit of the Spirit. The Fruits of the Spirit is like the shadows of a man: judging by the Spirit instead of judging by the Fruits of the Spirit, is like following the man instead of following the shadows of the man. Don't put the cart ahead of the horse.

Follow the Person, the Lord or the Spirit: not the by products. As many as are led by the Spirit are the sons of God.

Again, the best way to know fake naira is by knowing the real or true naira very well.

Stop judging people, churches or organisations in the name of the Lord Jesus by carnal parameters of goodness. There are good motives behind some evil people and there are evil motives behind some good people.

[1 Corinthians 4:3-5] — "I care very little, however, if I am judged by you or by any human court. In fact, I do not even judge myself. My conscience is clear, but that does not vindicate me. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men’s hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God."

MaxInDHouse:
This is your own opinion whereas Jesus said:

"By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit.  A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit" Matthew 7:16-18

Jesus said i should make sure i identify them so i will follow Jesus' instruction!

This is not just my opinion, but the wisdom of God: — You should seek and identify God's Voice and Spirit more than you should identify them by their fruits.

You cannot follow Jesus' instructions just by making sure you identify them or those you term as false. You can only fully follow the Lord's instructions by looking at the Lord and seeking to know Him above all else. Your goal is not to avoid or discriminate against them, but to follow the Lord.

It is not the duty of a true sheep to know strangers in order to avoid them: Rather it's the duty of the Sheep to know the true Shepherd and follow the voice of the Shepherd.

You cannot effectively avoid a counterfeit by knowing the counterfeit: Rather the proper thing is for you to know the real or original, and that knowledge of the true one will keep you from falling into the counterfeit.

MaxInDHouse:
What are the qualities of a true Christian gathering so that we can all identify God's organization when we come in contact with them?

Do not seek to identify God's organisation, rather you should seek to identify God's calling, God's Voice, and God's Words, and to obey or keep them.

You could be among fellowship of true Believers, but God's calling for you is to separate from them for the works God called you. You are not separating from them because of any fault of them, but separating from them because the Lord sends you to the field or to separation. Example, Paul and Barnabbas here:

[Act 13:2] — "And as they were ministering and fasting to the Lord, the Holy Spirit said, “Separate both Barnabas and Saul to Me for the work to which I have called them.”"

Seek fellowship with God more than you seek fellowship with men

MaxInDHouse:
What are the qualities of a true Christian gathering so that we can all identify God's organization when we come in contact with them?

Do not seek to identify God's organisation, rather you should seek to identify God's calling, God's Voice, and God's Words.

You could be among fellowship of Believers, but God's calling for you is to separate from them for the works God called you. You are not separating from them for any fault, but for your path to walking closer with the Lord Jesus who calls you, like Paul and Barnabbas here:

Acts 13:2: "While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.”"

MaxInDHouse:
Paul wrote:

And let us consider one another so as to incite to love and fine works, 25 not forsaking our meeting together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you see the day drawing near. Hebrews 10:24-25

Are all gatherings of worshipers claiming Christians worth associating with?

Jesus said:

"For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.” Matthew 18:20

Is Jesus in all gatherings of worshipers claiming Christians?

Not all gatherings of self-proclaimed Christians are necessarily worth associating with, nor is Jesus necessarily present in all such gatherings, despite their claims. Let’s break it down based on the scriptures you provided and broader biblical principles.

Hebrews 10:24-25
Paul’s words in Hebrews encourage believers to meet together to inspire love and good deeds, especially as the "day" (likely referring to Christ’s return or judgment) approaches. The emphasis is on gatherings that foster spiritual growth, mutual encouragement, and genuine faith. However, not all groups claiming to be Christian align with these goals. Some may promote division, false teachings, or behaviors contrary to biblical principles. For example:
- **2 Timothy 4:3-4** warns that some will gather around teachers who "tickle their ears" with pleasing but false doctrines.
- **1 John 4:1** advises testing the spirits to discern whether a group’s teachings are truly from God, as not all who claim to follow Christ are genuine.

Thus, discernment is key. A gathering worth associating with should reflect Christ’s teachings, promote love, and adhere to sound doctrine (Titus 2:1). If a group deviates into hypocrisy, legalism, or immorality, it may not be a healthy spiritual environment.

Matthew 18:20
Jesus’ statement about being present where "two or three are gathered in my name" implies a condition: the gathering must truly be *in His name*. This means the group is aligned with His teachings, character, and purpose. Jesus is not automatically present in every gathering that claims His name if their actions or beliefs contradict Him. For instance:
- **Matthew 7:21-23** shows that not all who claim to act in Jesus’ name are recognized by Him, as some are called "workers of lawlessness."
- **1 Corinthians 5:11** warns against associating with those who claim to be believers but practice unrepentant sin, indicating that not all "Christian" gatherings are endorsed by Christ.

Jesus’ presence is tied to the authenticity of the gathering’s faith and purpose, not merely their profession of His name.

Practical Considerations
To determine if a gathering is worth associating with or if Jesus is truly present:
1. **Test their teachings**: Do they align with scripture? (Acts 17:11)
2. **Examine their fruit**: Do they produce love, unity, and godliness? (Matthew 7:16-20)
3. **Seek discernment**: Pray for guidance and compare their practices to biblical standards (James 1:5).

In summary, not all gatherings claiming to be Christian are worth associating with, nor is Jesus necessarily present in them. Use scripture and discernment to evaluate their authenticity.

Maximus692:
Please interpret what Jesus meant in this verses:

When they have finished their witnessing, the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss will wage war with them and conquer them and kill them. And their corpses will be on the main street of the great city that is in a spiritual sense called Sodʹom and Egypt, where their Lord was also executed on the stake. And those of the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations will look at their corpses for three and a half days, and they do not allow their corpses to be laid in a tomb. And those dwelling on the earth rejoice over them and celebrate, and they will send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those dwelling on the earth. Revelation 11:7-10

I may not fully expand these verses because if I do it may take over ten thousand words for me to exhaust these whole verses.

But what exactly are you pointing at in or from these verses.

Summarily, the reference refer to two Witnesses from heaven, from the very Presence of the God of the earth, who were sent to witness or prophesy on earth for 3½ years. Nothing could harm them during the days of their prophesying, but as soon as their days of prophesying ended the Beast or Antichrist that ascended from the Abyss would then kill them. The world celebrate their death for three and half days, but eventually they rose from the dead and with the call to come into heaven they ascended physically or visibly into heaven in the sight or view of all men including their haters.

Again, what point are you pursuing or pushing with these verses?

Maximus692:
Jesus taught his disciples never to raise weapons against anyone! Matthew 26:52

Jesus said his disciples must have love among themselves. John 13:34-35

Jesus prayed for his disciples to have the same line of thought! John 17:22

Can you please mention any church that has all these apart from Jehovah's Witnesses?

When you talk about church, you are referring to a "Denomination" or "Sectarian Group" following common idealogy and a set of doctrines.

But when I talk about church, I refer to the "Elects" or "True Few Chosen and Faithful Ones" drawn from every Tribe, Nation, Denomination or Sect, and gathered as Saints under one Fold only the Lord Jesus Christ Himself Shepherds.

I am not interested in a perfect Denomination, perfect Sect, or Perfect Organisation, like Catholic, Anglican, Methodist, Lutheran, Jehovah's Witnesses, Pentecostal, Charismatic, etc. The perfection of any of these groups has never been my view or interest, because all Denominations are Divisions that are not from the Lord but from men dividing the faith in order to rule or control those following them.

You are still trapped in the Divisions or Denominations battles or comparisons among and against themselves, while you are defending the one called "Jehovah's Witnesses" led by Charles Russell.

I do not defend Denominations, but Disciples of the Lord. I am interested in the few True Disciples, Chosen and faithful ones, who are in all and every Denominations but know and follow only the Voice of the Lord Jesus Christ alone in their devotion.

To me, there's no perfect Denomination, and I don't even seek one: but I seek Perfecting of the Saints in every and all churches. Let all Denominations perish, but let all Saints live, flourish, and abide forever in and under Christ alone, not under any pastor or any so called man of God as overseer of any man-made church group.

MaxInDHouse:
... today true Christianity has fully recovered from it's deathlike condition {Revelations 11:7-10} from the year 1931 the true God gave this group a new name which separated them from all others claiming Christians they are known globally today as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Jesus returned in the year 1914 only to find out that what he commissioned in the first century has taken a totally different shape {Luke 18:8} so as a spirit king himsel and his angels began looking for any religion that's prepared to make changes so as to conform to what he laid down in the first century.
The only group that yielded to his call is called The International Bible Students Association back then led by one Charles Taze Russell from that time till the year 1931 Jesus continued to teach them how to return to true Christianity all other religions were mocking this group because they keep changing from one doctrine to another as if they don't know what they are doing unknowingly to observers that Jesus the invisible spirit king is the one doing the restructuring until today that everyone on planet earth now know this group as the most active and united group when it comes to preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom throughout the world! Act 1:8

The recovering of the Church is not the interpretation of the Bible reference you made of Revelation 11:7-10.

The Lord Jesus did not return in year 1914. Charles Russell was a liar and a false prophet.

Neither God nor the Lord Jesus founded the organisation of Taze Charles Russell, known as Jehovah's Witnesses. The Lord Jesus is not coming to find or be part of one group or denomination: rather He is coming or returning to take over all, including taking over all the churches and taking over all the world and taking over all kingdoms.

The returning of the Lord Jesus Christ will not be as an "Invisible King" or "Invisible Entity" you were falsely taught. Rather all eyes shall see Him when He returns, including the eyes of those that pierced Him. So, cease from this errors of He had returned as Invisible King in 1914.

Yes, the Lord Jesus is with us as the Spirit of God and Invisible God with us. But the return or coming of the Lord is Physical or Visible, just as His ascension on Mount Olives was Visible and Physical with Flesh.

The second Coming or Return of the Lord Jesus Christ would not be needing "Witnesses" to spread Him as "Eyewitnesses" or "Jehovah's Witnesses." The fact you call yourselves "Witnesses" or "Jehovah's witnesses" while testifying that the Lord Jesus has returned, shows you people are false witnesses.

If He truly returned or came, then all witnesses announcing He returned are false because He will come as the Sun rises and be seen by all. If you alone saw the sun rise, but witnessing to me that the sun has risen while I cannot see the sun with my seeing eyes, the fact you have to suffer to witness or convince people that sun has risen shows you are false or ignorant, because everyone by default would see the sun or light of the sun if it rose.

The Lord Jesus puts it this way, warning against witnesses announcing His has returned:

[Matthew 24:23-27] — "At that time, if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There He is!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive even the elect, if that were possible. See, I have told you in advance. So if they tell you, ‘There He is, in the wilderness,’ do not go out, or, ‘Here He is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man."

MaxInDHouse:
This has continued until the twentieth century when America declared freedom of speech expression and worship from that time true Christianity began taking shape again and today true Christianity has fully recovered from it's deathlike condition {Revelations 11:7-10} from the year 1931 the true God gave this group a new name which separated them from all others claiming Christians they are known globally today as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

There was no age or era after the Lord Jesus Christ that true Christianity lost shape or died. Even though the number or population of the true Christians became fewer in some of these ages, true Christians were never lacked in any of the ages. Christians are the Salt of the Earth or Ages since then.

Yes, there were era when persecution and killing of Christians trended most, but yet Christians also thrived in those ages.

Wrong to credit the freedom of expression of Christianity to America or American Declaration. True Freedom and Liberty are from the LORD God and His Spirit in all ages, irrespective of state persecutions. Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty and there is Utterances (freedom of speech). It is not American Declaration, but the Declaration (Utterance) and Presence of the Spirit of the Lord.

MaxInDHouse:
Satan has been working tirelessly so that Christianity may fail and to an extent he has been making progress because Jesus handed over the commission to imperfect humans who will in turn pass over the assignment to other imperfect humans when they die or as Jesus puts it in a parable (when men are sleeping) {Matthew 13:25} so after the death of Jesus' twelve apostles and first century disciples who knew the truth Satan began promoting apostates (rebellious excommunicated members who were disciplined due to misconduct and unchristian course) these individuals became political something no member of the first century disciples partake in and they began persecuting anyone who speaks against their activities until they were able to silence or make other members compromise their stand...

The Lord Jesus did not handover any commission of the Kingdom movement to any imperfect humans. He Himself still runs things by the Spirit of God. He only chose or sent them, but directed them to wait for the Holy Spirit and Power to guide them and teach them all things.

Those whom the devil planted in the vineyards were not part of those the Lord Jesus chose or sent, though these antichrists or wolves in sheep clothing crept into the fold while men slept or unawares to the true ones, and corrupted the unstable ones but not those the Lord chose and discipled with His discipline in them.

Mar 14:21: "The Son of Man will go just as it is written about Him, but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed! It would be better for him if he had not been born.”"

Gal 6:7-8: "Do not be deceived: God is not to be mocked. Whatever a man sows, he will reap in return. The one who sows to please his flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; but the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life."

John 7:39: "He was speaking about the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were later to receive. For the Spirit had not yet been given, because Jesus had not yet been glorified."

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REPLYING A CONSPIRACY THEORIST FOR JUDAS ISCARIOT

According to this Conspiracy Theorist:

“Have you ever heard about the Book of Judas? According to the Book of Judas, which was removed from the Bible, Judas was not a betrayer but rather the most obedient disciple.

It was Jesus who instructed him to hand Him over in order to fulfill the secret divine agenda.

Did you know that the story of Judas’ death in the Bible is contradictory? Matthew 27:5 contradicts Acts 1:18. Go check it for yourself; I didn't make it up.”

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Now, here are some of the comments generated from this:

Akabueze Victor Daberechi:
Yes you are correct. Mathew said he dropped the money at the temple and went to hang himself. While Acts said he used the money to buy a field, there he fell, his belly went open and his intestines gushed out.

Dylan James Oswald:
Omenala Bu Uzo Ezioku Na Ndu the book of Judas was never part of the Bible… Therefore it was not removed.

Taye Plush Feelnmyselftodeath:
(Replying to Dylan James Oswald): — It was.

Ernest Honing:
One common interpretation is that Judas hanged himself (as described in Matthew), and then, at some point later (perhaps after decomposition had begun), his body fell from the tree or structure where he hung himself, resulting in the physical injuries described in Acts.

Russ Fenstermaker:
(Replying to Ernest Honing): — and that would be another contradiction considering the second part was in a field he bought with the money, so...

Akabueze Victor Daberechi:
(Replying to Ernest Honing): — what about the part they talked about how he used the money? Why do you people always come up with silly explanations in defense of someone else's poetry?

Fresh Bambi:
(Replying to Ernest Honing): — so what about the money he dropped in the temple? ...and what about the same money he dropped in the temple he still used it to buy field?

You will explain so tayyyyy!!!

Ernest Honing:
(Replying to both Bambi and Victor): — Judas threw the money at the religious leaders and they, acting as agents for him, took Judas’s money and bought a field.

Fresh Bambi:
1). He threw the money down in the temple and hanged himself.
2). He bought a field with the money and died on the field with ruptured bowel.
After throwing the money in the temple and dying on ropes, he resurrected, took the money from the temple, bought the piece of field and died again on the field?
Now:
Matthew
or
Acts
Who's lying ...because one must be a lie or mistake 🤔

Russ Fenstermaker:
(Replying to Fresh Bambi):— both are a lie, tbh

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Now here is my Replying to these:

ON THE EXCLUSION OF THE BOOK OF JUDAS

First, if the book of Judas was written by this same Judas that betrayed the Lord Jesus was part of the bible, the whole bible would be defiled or false. The reasons included: [A] Satan entered or possessed Judas, and he never lived to receive the Holy Spirit in the day of Pentecost. [B] None of the books of the Bible written by any of the disciples or Apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ before the day of Pentecost would qualify as Scriptures because none of them had the Spirit of God yet, though they had the Lord Jesus with them. All Scriptures are by the Holy Spirit of God, not just by eyewitnesses. If they were just eyewitness’ accounts, they would not qualify as Scriptures even though they are testimonies and verified. So the bible must be above eyewitnesses accounts to attain as “Scriptures” having the Breath of the Spirit of the Lord God in them.

Therefore, none of those eyewitnesses walking with the Lord Jesus Christ had the Spirit of God to write any Bible Book or Scriptures by the time the Lord Jesus Christ was yet to ascend in the heavens — The reason was from the moment the Spirit of God descended like a dove and dwelt on the Lord Jesus at Baptism till the day of Pentecost after the ascension of the Lord Jesus, no one else received or had the Holy Spirit, though the Holy Spirit was Promised of the Father to be poured on all flesh in the last days.

[John 7:39] — "He was speaking about the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were later to receive. For the Spirit had not yet been given, because Jesus had not yet been glorified.”

So, understand that the books of the bible were written either before or after the Lord Jesus walked and dwelt among men as the “Son of man.” Those scriptures written in “BC” (before Christ was born) are the Old Testament collection, while the New Testament collection are those Scriptures written after Christ Jesus ascended.

This is why I frown at Pastors or Christians when they say, the New Testament began from the Book of Acts or from Paul’s Letters, implying that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, are part of the Old Testament because they talked about the Lord Jesus while He was on earth. But I tell you, all the books of the Bible written after the day of Pentecost are New Testament or New Covenant Books including the Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, written after the Pentecost and ascension of the Lord Jesus. Those Four spoke of events that happened before Pentecost, but by the Spirit, Grace and Perspective that happened after Pentecost, in the Church Age. Just as the book of Genesis spoke of the Beginning or Creations that happened before Moses was born, but written after Moses had seen God and endured seeing the Back of the Lord God who is the Invisible and Eternal One.

Moreover, the Scriptures era ended with the death of the last Apostle of the Lord then. Any other book written after all the twelve Apostles died, do not qualify as Scriptures or Foundation of the Faith. The Faith is laid on the Foundation of the Apostles (after Christ) and Prophets (before Christ), while Christ is Corner Stone.

[Ephesians 2:19-22] — "Therefore you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of God’s household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus Himself as the cornerstone. In Him the whole building is fitted together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord. And in Him you too are being built together into a dwelling place for God in His Spirit.”

[Revelation 21:14] — "The wall of the city had twelve foundations bearing the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.”

[C] — Judas was replaced, and his office given to another person. This replacement cut across all spiritual Inheritance he once had, including his authority to Scriptures or Cannonized Bible Books. All the Church cast lots to replace Judas, and therefore Judas was excommunicated from the Church even after he died.

ON THE SUPPOSED DISCREPANCY BETWEEN BOOKS OF ACTS AND MATTHEW PERTAINING JUDAS ISCARIOT’ DEATH

Read both references elaborately: Do not just take one verse only from each of the passages to build up your Conspiracy: Read:

[b][Matthew 27:3-8] — "Then Judas, who had betrayed Him, when he saw that He was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, Saying, “I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood.” And they said, “What is that to us? see you to that.” And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, “It is not lawful for us to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood.” And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in. This is why that field was called, “The field of blood, to this day.”

[Acts 1:18-19] — "Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the middle, and all his bowels gushed out. And it was known to all the dwellers at Jerusalem; so as that field is called in their proper tongue, “Aceldama,” that is to say, “The field of blood.”[/b]

Both references spoke of the same man (Judas Iscariot) and gave the same name to the field, — “The Field of Blood” but gave:

[1] Two different reasons as to why the field was called the “Field of blood.”

[2] Two different buyers of that field of blood, but same money.

[3] Two different postures or sights seen of Judas’ carcass on that field.

Now [1] — The Two different reasons as to why the field was called the “Field of blood” all point to one fact — Judas’ carcass was there, and Strangers were buried there. Matthew say they bought the field to bury strangers, and Acts say Judas’ Carcass was pinned there. Harmonising Matthew and Acts means Judas’ Carcass was the first Stranger and Outcast that was buried there, but not the only stranger to be buried there. Judas became a stranger or outcast, no more part of Israel or part of the Church.

Now [2] — Two different buyers of that field of blood, but same money — blood money or reward of iniquity belonging to Judas. Matthew said the priests and elders used Judas’ blood money to buy the field called “Field of blood,” and Acts said Judas used his blood money or reward of iniquity to buy the “Field of blood.” The idea is not that Judas literally bought the field with the money before he died, but that Judas bought the field with the reward even if he had died.

It's a spiritual expression to tell you that though a dead man does not do anything with his money or properties, the dead man still does things with his rewards or wages of his past deeds he left still in motion. I don't want to say it as men say it, “The evil that men do lives after them or after they die.” But my point is, Matthew spoke of the money (physical purchasing objects) but Acts spoke of the Rewards or Fruits (Outcome) of that evil transaction still in motion or still processing. It's like though a man did not literally or physically do something, but he is blamed or held responsible for it though another person did it, because of what that man had earlier done still ongoing or did not do to prevent or stop the ongoing. So, the language used in Acts was “Rewards of Iniquity” or Wages of Sin or “Gains of robbery” Judas used to buy field of blood even though Judas already died and he physically did not use the blood money to buy field of blood.

[Galatians 6:7-8] — "Do not be deceived: God is not to be mocked. Whatever a man sows, he will reap in return. The one who sows to please his flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; but the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.”


Now [3] — Two different postures or sights seen of Judas’ carcass on that field.

Matthew tells you how Judas died — “by hanging himself;” but Acts tells you how Judas was confirmed dead — “by falling down and his Bowels burst open.”

In those days, someone could be hanged on a tree or pole and still not be dead. Absalom, a son of David, was seen hanging on a tree, but was not dead until Joab thrust and other soldiers with him pinned spears into the hanging man's heart and belly before he died [2 Samuel 18:14-15].

About that week, atleast four men were hung on trees: Judas that hung himself, and the Lord Jesus and the two thieves crucified with Him. The Jews had a tradition that forbids any man hanging to remain hanging although the night: they must bring the man or his corpse down from the hanger before night falls. They came to Judas to bring him down, but found Judas had fallen headlong and his belly bursted open revealing his dirts and corruptions. They came to the two thieves besides the Lord Jesus crucified, and they were still alive, and so they broke the legs of those thieves so they wouldn't escape when they are pulled down from the cross. So those thieves crucified with Him did not eventually die with Him. But when they came to Him, the Lord Jesus was already dead: then one of them pierced Him and instead of His bowels or any dirt or corruption to come out, rather clean and pure water and blood sprinkled like shower upon men.

Judas was a son of perdition, but the Lord Jesus is the Son of God.

You see why the money called “Blood Money” (Matthew) or “Reward of Iniquity” (Acts) had nothing to do with why the Field was called “Field of blood.” — It was called “Blood Money” or “Reward of Iniquity” because it sold the Righteous Blood to death; while on the other hand, the field bought with the blood money was called the field of blood or blood field because of the blood of Judas was on that field. It's not the Blood of Jesus, but the blood of Judas that made that field the field of blood: a grave for strangers.


As for you, the Conspiracy theorist, how dare you say Judas was very obedient disciple, and he was following instruction of the Lord Jesus to betray Him because of divine hidden agenda? Do you also want to become a son of perdition like the Antichrist? Or are you one of the fools that say, if Judas did not betray the Lord Jesus there's no way the Lord Jesus would have gone to the cross for our salvation? Do not say that anymore:

Judas himself, on returning the blood money, confessed he had sinned by betraying the Innocent blood to death. How dare you turn it to saying he had obeyed by betraying the Lord because he was secretly sent the Lord to betray Him? The Lord Jesus said His going to the cross was sure thing to happen, and betraying Him was unnecessary but woe to the man who chose that part or role of Judas in betraying the Lord.

[Mark 14:21] — "The Son of Man will go just as it is written about Him, but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed! It would be better for him if he had not been born.””

— "Darkened heart": “They became futile in their thinking… and their foolish hearts were "darkened". Claiming to be wise, they became fools.” (Rom 1:21-22)

— "Rebellion against the Creator": Sinners suppress the truth and exchange it for a lie, calling evil good and good evil (Isa 5:20).

↝ IS A STUBBORN HARLOT “WEAK” OR “STRONG?” ↜

[Ezekiel 16:30 ICB] — ‘Truly your will is weak, says the Lord God. You do all the things a stubborn prostitute does.
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[Ezekiel 16:30 AKJV] — "How weak is your heart, said the LORD GOD, seeing you do all these things, the work of an imperious whorish woman;"
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[Ezekiel 16:30 BBE] — "How feeble is your heart, says the Lord, seeing that you do all these things, the work of a loose and overruling woman;"

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Question:
Would you describe a stubborn harlot given to bold and shameless sex as strong in heart or weak in heart?

Answer:
I would describe such a character as weak in heart. The behaviors you mention—stubbornness, harlotry, bold and shameless sex—are not signs of inner strength or moral courage. They suggest a lack of self-control, a surrender to lust, and a disregard for virtue or dignity. True strength of heart involves restraint, integrity, and the courage to uphold what is right, even when it is difficult. These actions, by contrast, reflect a heart enslaved to impulse and desire, which is the opposite of strength.

Question:
Rebellion or stubborn is not strength but weakness according to you, true or false?

Answer:
True—if the rebellion or stubbornness is rooted in pride, selfish desire, or an unwillingness to acknowledge rightful authority or truth, then it is a moral weakness rather than strength. Genuine strength of heart is shown in disciplined self-mastery and humble adherence to what is good, not in obstinate defiance of it.

Question:
What would you say from this bible verse in red?

Answer:
This verse in red contains a reminder called “Declares (says) the Lord,” to remind us these were the very expressions of the Word of the Lord God Himself saying them. Here, the Lord and Healer Himself played the role of a Doctor and gave diagnostic or medical report of the sickness or disease this woman had. He was telling her she was sick, weak, feeble or faint in heart; which is ironic because she appeared to be strong, bold, brazen and shameless in her sexual escapades and adventures. This is like the Lord played the role of the Doctor, and diagnostically reported the sick conditions of church that ironically paraded herself in in opposite appearance of what this Doctor, the Lord, was describing to her as her true state, illness, problems and diseases: — That Church thought and felt she was rich, had need of nothing and was living in prosperity: but this Doctor, the Lord Himself, gave her the true report she was poor, wretched, miserable, blind, naked, without knowing — Then He counselled her to come to Him to get the treatment or solution for her sick conditions [Revelation 2:17-18]

Though He is the Healer and the Doctor (Physician), yet there are sicknesses or miserable conditions He wouldn't just cure until the person or people with them first realize they have such problems, become converted, and humbly seek Him for solutions to them. In this bible verse in red, the Lord and Doctor declared to her such:
“How sick is your heart, declares the Lord GOD, because you did all these things, the deeds of a brazen prostitute…”

■1■ ~ “How sick (or faint, feverish, weak) is your heart…” — Here, the Lord God did not describe her as “strong” but as “sick.” The Hebrew word “ḥālâ” used here suggests a heart that is diseased, feverish, morally feeble.

■2■ ~ “…because you did all these things, the deeds of a brazen (or bold, shameless) prostitute.” — The outward boldness is not courage; it is the frantic energy of a diseased heart. What looks like strength is, in reality, a catastrophic weakness that cannot say “no” to evil.

Therefore, this bible verse in red exposes the false illusion that rebellion equals strength. Jerusalem’s fornication is depicted as weakness of heart, not power. In biblical categories, the strongest heart is the one that can refuse sin and cling to covenant love; the weakest is the one so enslaved to desire that it brazenly flaunts its own degradation.

Question:
But do you observe that people in the world celebrate emotional and sensual escapades in evil things as boldness, strength and power? Some view people who keep self-control and restraint over indulging in inordinate sex as if those people are either abnormal, unhealthy or weak, especially as if they are impotent for not having such sexual intercourse unlike them. Why is that so, when the Lord God has different declaration of true strength or weakness from what the world describe as strength or weakness? (Please use bible references to support your answer)

Answer:
Here are some reasons the world applauds as strength what God calls weakness:

◇◇ 1. The world’s "inverted scale" of strength and weakness:
Scripture diagnoses the problem as ‘spiritual blindness’ produced by "the god of this age:” - “The god of this world has "blinded" the minds of unbelievers… For what is exalted among men is "an abomination" in the sight of God.” — [2 Corinthians 4:4; Luke 16:15].

What the world labels “bold” is often nothing more than "the inability to say no" to lust; yet that inability is paraded as power. Conversely, the person who exercises self-control is mocked as “repressed,” “impotent,” or abnormal because the world’s measuring tape is "the flesh", not the Spirit.

◇◇ 2. The Bible’s "true definition" of strength:
"Self-mastery" is called a "Spirit-given power:” — “For God gave us a spirit not of fear but "of power" and "love" and "self-control".”
— [2 Timothy 1:7]. "Lack of self-control" is explicitly labeled "weakness:” “A man without self-control is like a "city broken into and left without walls."” — [Proverbs 25:28]

"Sexual restraint" is praised, not pitied:

Potiphar’s wife promised Joseph the very thing the world calls a “conquest.” Joseph’s refusal looked like weakness, yet Scripture records: “He would not listen to her"… and he "fled" and got out of the house.” — [Genesis 39:8-12]. By worldly standards Joseph missed an opportunity; by God’s standard he became "second only to Pharaoh".

Sinners suppress the truth and exchange it for a lie, calling evil good and good evil (Isaiah 5:20). Thus, “Do not be "conformed" to this world, but be "transformed" by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God.” [Romans 12:2]

Therefore, the one who "abstains" from sin is not impotent but "powerful"—armed with the Spirit’s self-control—while the one who boasts in sensual “freedom” is, in God’s sight, "enslaved and weak" (John 8:34; Romans 6:16).

↝ THE HARLOT'S MILEAGE DIDN'T CURE HER STI ↜

[Ezekiel 16:29 BSB] — "So you extended your promiscuity to Chaldea, the land of merchants— but even with this you were not satisfied!”
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[Ezekiel 16:29 AKJV] — "You have moreover multiplied your fornication in the land of Canaan to Chaldea; and yet you were not satisfied therewith."
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[Ezekiel 16:29 NIV] — Then you increased your promiscuity to include Babylonia, a land of merchants, but even with this you were not satisfied.

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These three transcriptions or translations of this same bible verse in red differ slightly, but all agreed together on “Yet you were not satisfied.”:

▪︎A▪︎ ~ Those that did not mention “Canaan” but mentioned “The Land of Merchants” (Land of Traffic or Land of Commerce)

▪︎B▪︎ ~ Those that mentioned “Canaan” but did not mention “The Land of Merchants” (Land of Traffic or Land of Commerce)

But be careful here, the verse is not referring to “Babylonians” but to “Babylonia;” not to “Chaldeans” but to “Chaldea:” — meaning not necessarily the “People”, but basically the “Place,” of the land. It is bible translation like “Good News Translation” that replaced “Land” (or Place) with the People or Nation instead. Example:

[Ezekiel 16:29 GNT] — You were also a prostitute for the Babylonians, that nation of merchants, but they didn't satisfy you either.”

If I were to measure how much this harlot had taken into her based on People or Nations but still not satisfied, I would be measuring what is popularly known as her “BODY COUNTS.” Body-Counts of a fornicator or LovePeddler means how much bodies (not how much times) she was laid with in sexual intercourse: — This is usually expressed in “Persons, People or Nations.” This alligns with the Good News Translation of this bible verse in red.

But on the other hand, if I were to measure how much this harlot had taken into her expressed in Distance or Lands covered but still not satisfied, I would be measuring what is popularly known as her “MILEAGE.” Mileage of a fornicator or LovePeddler means how much distance (including how much lengths and times) she ate thrusts in sexual intercourse:—This is usually expressed in “Miles, Kilometres, Metres, Feets.” This alligns with all the Translations of this bible verse in red, except those affiliated to the GNT in this.

To show how both “Lengths” and “Times” are included in “Mileage of a Harlot,” let's see a typical calculation of mileage of one round of sexual intercourse:

¤~¤ **Average Thrusts During Sex**

A “Thrust” here refers to the “in-and-out” or “to-and-fro” moves of a penis through a vagina.

On average, a man makes about “356 thrusts per intercourse session” (one round of sex) before ejaculation, based on data from 48 studies involving over 36,000 participants.

* **Thrust rate:** \~1.1 per second
* **Duration:** \~5.4 minutes
* **Range:** 259–454 thrusts
* **Thrust = one directional movement**
* **One full to-and-fro = 2 thrusts**

Thus, each session (round) includes about 178 full thrust cycles.

¤~¤ **Distance Covered in Thrusting**

* **Average erect penis length:** 13.12 cm
* **One round (forward + back):** 26.24 cm
* **178 rounds × 26.24 cm = 4,671 cm**
Converted:
* **≈ 47 meters**
* **≈ 0.0467 kilometers**
* **≈ 0.029 miles (154 feet)**

¤~¤ **Inference**

So, for just one round of sex, she took 47 metres (0.029 miles) in her milages. And sometimes in three hours there may be three or four rounds of sex — Hence multiplying 47m by 3 or 4 rounds etc.

You see that “Body-Counts” will still be counting one person for her even if she had 100 rounds of sex with that one person; but on the other hand, “Mileage” will multiply the number of times (100) by the length of the penis or thrusting object(s) by 2 (to-and-fro) to arrive at about ≈ 4.7 Kilometres (2.9 miles) at 100 rounds sex (whether with one Body-Count or with multiple Body-Counts).

¤~¤ **The Bible verse in red**

In this bible verse in red, particularly using the AKJV or KJV or any bible translation that mentioned “Canaan” here without mention of the “Land of Merchants” in this bible verse:

The Harlot’s Mileage was expressed as the straight distance from the land of Canaan to Chaldea (Babylonia). Therefore, to know her mileage required to know the miles between the Land of Canaan to the Land of Chaldea (Babylonia) on straight route or flight. Something gave an estimated distance of from “540 miles” and above from the centre of Jerusalem (in Canaan) to the centre of Babylonia (the land of Merchants or Traffics). This excludes her Husband's involvement, but just the mileage of her fornications, prostitutions, harlotry or adulteries alone ranging over 550 miles from the land Canaan to the land of merchants called Babylonia. Thus was the “Extension of her fornication” but yet she was still not satisfied: — Even that mileage couldn't cure her STI (Sexually Transmitted Insatiability).

So, that's a role of mentioning “Canaan” in this bible verse in red — to help determine the starting point for the range or mileage. On the other hand, a role of mentioning “The Land of Merchants” in the same verse in red is — to clarify that as a Market Place or a land of Merchants, not only the Babylonians had her but probably some of the different and major countrymen of the world nations that trafficked or traded in that Babylonian Market may had her.

Now, let's recollect the different countries mentioned so far she had slept with in her insatiable fornications: Egypt, Assyria and Babylonia: — These three mentioned were the ancient world powers in their times, that had also carried or held Israel either in Slavery or Captivity outside the land of Canaan. These were the same people she committed fornications with.

As for some still calling their private parts “Centre of Jerusalem:” Behold even Jerusalem here couldn't call hers centre of Jerusalem considering her mileage that had reached the centre of Babylonia the land of merchants.

°1▪︎ — She has Centre of Jerusalem, if her “Mileage” is less than and below 1 Mile

°2▪︎ — She has Centre of Egypt, if her “Mileage” is greater than and above 1 Mile but less than 350 Miles.

°3▪︎ — She has Centre of Assyria, if her “Mileage” is greater than and above 350 Miles.

°4▪︎ — She has Centre of Babylonia, if her “Mileage” is greater than and above 500 Miles.

↝ THE HARLOT'S MILEAGE DIDN'T CURE HER STI ↜

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↝ STI — SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED INSATIABILITY ↜

[Ezekiel 16:28 NET] — You engaged in prostitution with the Assyrians too, because you were insatiable; and even after that, you still were not satisfied.
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[Ezekiel 16:28 NKJV] — You also played the harlot with the Assyrians, because you were insatiable; indeed you played the harlot with them and still were not satisfied.
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[Ezekiel 16:28 NEB] — "Not content with this, you committed fornication with the Assyrians, led them into fornication and still were not content."

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She as harlot went after Assyrian lovers as an ass wandering alone

[Hosea 8:9 FBV] — "They have gone up to Assyria like a donkey wandering alone. Ephraim has hired lovers."

In this bible verse in red, the adulteress went to the Assyrians for sexual satisfaction but got no satisfaction even after indulging her craved sex partying. No matter how much she took in, it was never enough or fulfilling. This imply a feedback loop or vacuum of inner emptiness afflicting her: the emptiness led to harmful behavior and cravings, which only reinforced her emptiness further. So her insatiability wasn't just about lust — but affliction of insatiability.

Her trying to use sex to satisfy her crave for sex became like a mad man trying to use fuel to quench a burning fire: — that escalated the flames. The more she had received, the more she hungered for more. She once thought it was larger\bigger joysticks of Egyptians that would satisfy her, since smaller ones couldn't; but the larger ones widened and escalated her cravings, transmitting into her “STI” (“Sexually Transmitted Infection,” particularly the one called) — “Sexually Transmitted Insatiability.” Here, she left men with large joysticks that gave her that STI, seeking Assyrians that looked like princes to cure her STI by granting her Sexual Satisfaction. But she found no Sexual Satisfaction among the Assyrians to cure her STI. She went kinky in search of satisfaction:

[2 Peter 2:14 BSB] — "Their eyes are full of adultery; their desire for sin is never satisfied; they seduce the unstable. They are accursed children with hearts trained in greed.”

[Proverbs 30:15-16 FBV] — "The leech has two daughters who cry out, “Give me! Give me!” There are three things that are never satisfied, four that never say, “Enough!”: The grave, the womb that doesn't become pregnant, the earth thirsty for water, and the fire that never says, “Enough!”"

These four insatiable things are all components of Hell Fire: It's a Grave, it's a barren Womb, it's a dry place always in thirst for water (The Lord Jesus had to cry He's thirsty before going into hell, and a rich man in hell asked Abraham to send Lazarus to drop a droplet of water to his tongue there), and the fire in hell is never quenched or had enough.

[Proverbs 27:20 AKJV] — "Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.”

□2□ — He gave her up and over to the Philistine women, who both hated her and are ashamed of her immoral ways.

↝ NOT CAST A FIRST STONE BUT THE ADULTERESS ↜

[Ezekiel 16:27 NET] — So see here, I have stretched out My Hand against you and cut off your rations. I have delivered you into the power of those who hate you, the daughters of the Philistines, who were ashamed by your obscene conduct.
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[Ezekiel 16:27 NKJV] — “Behold, therefore, I stretched out My Hand against you, diminished your allotment, and gave you up to the will of those who hate you, the daughters of the Philistines, who were ashamed of your lewd behavior.
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[Ezekiel 16:27 NEB] — "I stretched out My Hand against you and cut down your portion. Then I gave you up to women who hated you, Philistine women, who were so disgusted by your lewd ways."

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When this Husband discovered the terrible fornications, infidelity and adulteries, His harlot wife had done with her neighbors: — He did not divorce her, and He did not beat her with His own Hand, Rather: — He did these two things against her:

□1□ — He raised or stretched out His Hand against her to diminish her inheritance or reduce her lot (for she’s a harlot)

□2□ — He gave her up and over to the Philistine women, who both hated her and are ashamed of her immoral ways.

Now, let's talk of these two acts of the Lord against this adulteress. I say this because what some people only know about how the Lord treated an adulteress was “He that is without sin should cast the first stone at her” and when no man cast stone at her because all have sinned, then the Lord would not condemn her either. Here are other acts or treatments of the Lord against the adulteress, which has nothing to do with casting stone of condemnation, but has everything to do with casting the adulteress herself from one hand into another. Here is the adulteress, not a stone, being cast.

□1□ — He raised or stretched out His Hand against her to diminish her inheritance or reduce her lot (for she’s a harlot)

The first lot or portion that the Lord would reduce, diminish or take away, from a fornicator is usually not the carnal or material things but the spiritual. He would first take away portion of the Holy Spirit away from the fornicator, which translates to casting the fornicator away from His Presence which is one's spiritual portion or inheritance. For I tell you “Your Room in the Presence of God is far greater than your Land, Space or Estate on earth.’ A person who has just one square metres of Room to stand in the very Presence of the Lord God of Holiness and the Lord of all, that person with just one square metres place in the Presence of God is far richer, wealthier, greater and stronger, than another person who has billions of hectares of lands and real estates on earth.

Now, have this understanding of spiritual inheritance or portions:

The marriage covenant between the Lord and the unfaithful or adulterous wife had been broken by her fornications, but yet the Lord would not divorce her though He would drive or cast her away from His Presence. The Presence of God here figuratively means His Bed: She as His Bed was no longer an undefiled bed but has become a defiled bed in marriage. Thus, she was no longer fit to share the same bed with the Lord of Holiness, where sharing of the same bed with His Holiness means abiding in His Presence.

David, once a man after God's Heart, later committed fornication or adultery with Uriah's wife and shed blood of the innocent Uriah by offering him in sacrifice to the Sword of the Ammonites, similar to what this unfaithful Jerusalem had done. When David realised his errors, he feared being cast away from the Presence of God where the Holy Spirit of God joins and keeps those in His Presence married to God in one Bed. Actually, a man being driven or cast away from the Presence of God is the same as having the Holy Spirit of God taken away from the man. So, what happened to Cain that was driven away from the Presence of God happened to Saul that was rejected after anointed king in Israel, when the Spirit of God left Saul for good. Therefore, this David's prayer was written,

[Psalms 51:10-13 BSB] — "Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me. Cast me not away from Your presence; take not Your Holy Spirit from me. Restore to me the joy of Your salvation, and sustain me with a willing spirit. Then I will teach transgressors Your ways, and sinners will return to You.”

Now, the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty, there is His Presence, and there is Light.

[1 Corinthians 6:16-19 LG] — "Do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For "the two," He says, "shall become one flesh." But he that is joined with the Lord is one spirit with Him. Flee fornication. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits fornication sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?”

Next, but physically now:

□2□ — He gave her up and over to the Philistine women, who both hated her and are ashamed of her immoral ways.

She was cast out of some of her allotments, but she was cast into the hands of the Philistines’ women as allotment to them. Her portions were diminished, while she was used to increase the portions of her enemies that hated her. A person may own billions and still be owned by another person as master or mistress over the billionaire: the other person who owns the billionaire also owns the billions belonging to the billionaire. Thus it was, when after the Lord reduced her portions and gave her over to haters of her to possess or have her as their slave. Another prayer of David:

[1 Chronicles 21:11-13 BSB] — "So Gad went and said to David, “This is what the LORD says: ‘You must choose between three years of famine, three months of being swept away before your enemies and overtaken by their swords, or three days of the sword of the LORD— days of plague upon the land, with the angel of the LORD ravaging every part of Israel.’ Now then, decide how I should reply to Him who sent me.” David answered Gad, “I am deeply distressed. Please, let me fall into the hand of the LORD, for His mercies are very great; but do not let me fall into the hands of men.””

But why the preference of handing her over to the daughters or women of the Philistines, instead of handing her over to women of the Egyptians, especially because she was husbands snatcher who slept with their Egyptian men (not with the Philistines men)??

Wouldn't it be better if the Egyptian women dealt with her instead of the Philistine women dealing with her, for her adulteries with the Egyptian men with large joysticks?

Here are some reasons for the preference of the Philistine women over the Egyptian women, to punish the adulteress that fornicated with the Egyptian husbands or men:

Assuming both the women of the Philistines and the women of the Egyptians hated her: The difference between the two groups of women would be in the fact that the Egyptian women would deal with her out of the rage of their jealousy or vengeance because she slept with, or snatched, their men or husbands from them; but on the other hand, the Philistine women would not act against her out of jealousy or vengeance, but out of shame for her ways.

Supposing there was a nude hooker walking on the street without panties but very short and revealing skirt and mini blouse, exposing her thighs and navel, partially exposing her buttocks and breasts. Then there is another woman, a Muslim, well covered top to bottom with hijab also; and this Muslim woman hated that hooker but she was more ashamed that the hooker as her fellow woman could be exposing what she herself is trying hard to cover, and selling out or betraying the honor and dignity of womanhood. Then a third woman who also hated the hooker, but her problem with the hooker was not in how she lived her life or dresses in public, but in the fact that her husband or man was affected and seduced by this hooker, and she would fight her over her man.

~A~ If you hand over the hooker to the third woman, she would be fighting the hooker over her man's manhood: her problem with the hooker is personal. But,

~B~ If you hand over the hooker to the Muslim woman, she would be fighting the hooker over womanhood, not manhood: her problem with the hooker is not personal but patriotic.

The Muslim woman here is like the Philistine women, who are ashamed by the hooker's or harlot’s lewdness and promiscuity: and they would better correct her in the ways of keeping the sacredness of womanhood with honor and dignity. While on the other hand the Egyptian women would be after the vengeance of being robbed of the sacredness of their manhoods by this woman.

[Isaiah 31:1-3] — "WOE to those who go down to Egypt for help and trust in horses and rely on chariots because they are many, and in horsemen, because they are very strong; but they do not trust in the Holy One of Israel, neither seek the LORD! Yet in his wisdom, he will bring a calamity, and will not alter his words; but will arise against the house of evildoers and against the help of those who work iniquity. Now the Egyptians are men and not God; and their horses are flesh and not spirit. When the LORD shall stretch out his hand, both the helper shall be overthrown, and he that is helped shall fall down, and they all shall be annihilated together."

Alternatively, see the photo texts for the original rendition or expression I made of the verse. Why should the word "joysticks" be considered offensive when it is a medical term for male sexual organs?